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[David Yudkin]

Here was the official news of today.

LINK

Maroney is waiting to hear

By Mike Reiss and Christopher L. Gasper, Globe Staff | October 19, 2007

FOXBOROUGH - Running back Laurence Maroney, who hopes to return for Sunday's game in Miami after missing the last three with a groin injury, put himself in the same category as the media and fans who follow the Patriots.

Maroney, who was a game-time decision last Sunday against Dallas, said he is "feeling good" and spoke candidly about how he hopes to avoid the reputation of being an injury-prone player. He has missed five of a possible 25 games (including playoffs) since entering the NFL last year as a first-round draft choice, and was out for most of a sixth game when he hurt his ribs in the first quarter against the Lions last December. He also underwent offseason surgery on his shoulder.

"Coming off one injury as it is, coming into another one, it definitely is frustrating," he said. "It's, 'Man, I just can't get rid of these things.' I missed two games in college due to an ankle sprain, but those were the only games I missed in my football career. I come up [to the NFL], and it seems like I just can't get rid of these things.

"It's one of those things where you try to work hard to not be labeled as injury-prone and work so hard not to be injured. But in this game, football, I'm surprised people don't get injured every play. That's a surprising stat to me - the way we play, how hard we work, how physical this game is, people should get hurt more often. It's one of those things you don't want to have."

Maroney said he would not rush his return to compensate for the loss of Sammy Morris, who injured a bone in his chest early in the third quarter of last Sunday's win over the Cowboys when offensive lineman Stephen Neal and Dallas linebacker Bradie James landed on him.

A league source indicated yesterday that Morris is expected to be out until at least the team's bye weekend Nov. 10-11, and potentially longer than that. Maroney said, "It's kind of sad seeing him going down, because I really thought me and him were going to have something special this year."

Maroney rushed for 103 yards on 19 carries in the Patriots' 38-7 win over the Bills Sept. 23, going wire to wire. It was only after the game that Maroney realized something was wrong.

"It's one of those things where I finished the game with it, felt cool, and after I woke up [the next day], it just didn't feel right," he said.

Naturally, he's eager to return.

"Anybody that loves the game of football will be anxious, whether they sit out one week, two weeks, three days," he said. "It hurts to be on the sideline. You miss it by just watching it. But, you know, it gives you more energy and motivation to come back."

I should have more unofficial info later this afternoon.

 

[burd]

im surprised that kevin faulk's name isn't being mentioned as a good pickup this week against a lousy Miami D ... if only for bye week coverage.

 

[AnonymousBob]

im surprised that kevin faulk's name isn't being mentioned as a good pickup this week against a lousy Miami D ... if only for bye week coverage.

It is. So is Evans.Thanks for the info Yudkin, I'll be waiting for your unofficial news later.

 

[David Yudkin]

im surprised that kevin faulk's name isn't being mentioned as a good pickup this week against a lousy Miami D ... if only for bye week coverage.

I guess you didn't get Joe's email ;ast night stating:

Our sources in New England are telling us it's worse than this article makes it sound.This means that Kevin Faulk becomes a huge play this week. He's likely not availablein many leagues, but if you have a chance to make a move for him, he could pay off in a big way this week against the Dolphins. Miami is ranked #31 against the run but it's also only fair to remind folks they were missing linebacker Zach Thomas fora good bit of that.

 

[The Jerk]

If the Broncos could trade Henry to the Patriots, then there would possibly be a new thread started every five minutes.

 

[David Yudkin]

In other Pats news, Seymour not expected to be in game shape and ready to play for two more weeks . . . which would coincide with their game against IND.

 

[duaneok66]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

 

[shuke]

Absolutely no reason for Maroney to play this game.

 

[Jetdoc]

"Maroney said, "It's kind of sad seeing him going down, because I really thought me and him were going to have something special this year."

How sweet.

 

[sho nuff]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

Absolutely no reason for Maroney to play this game.

other links to maroney articles..http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...ticleid=1039095

http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/sp_f...AD.2a6aa85.html

http://www.courant.com/sports/football/hc-...0,4559104.story

If the games close faulk will be a better play. If NE blowout Miami early, I can see Evans involved more heavily. I'm rolling the dice on Faulk putting up respectable numbers this week.

 

[duaneok66]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

 

[KingPrawn]

Thanks for the info Yudkin. If Maroney cannot go, how do you see the running game going? Will it be Faulk or Evans?

 

[NoCheese]

What do you guys see his chances are this weekend of scoring a TD? Yardage totals?

 

[David Yudkin]

Thanks for the info Yudkin. If Maroney cannot go, how do you see the running game going? Will it be Faulk or Evans?

Maroney or no Maroney, I see Faulk at 10-12 carries, 4-5 receptions, 75-80 total yards, and a 50% shot at getting a TD (if the team can get a drive to the 5 or 10 yard line). Watson will be out, so they will have more of a need for an underneath guy.Even though there may be some articles pimping Evans, BB does not say that he'll be using Evans as a featured back, only that he would have faith in him if he had to use him in that role. I see Evans getting the call on any play requiring a run of 2 yards or less. The Pats may elect to go with more short passes to control the clock should the running game be ineffective.I also think that while the Pats should win, it will be closer than most people would think for 3 quarters with the Pats putting the game away late in the game. They have not played well in Miami the past 5 years--no matter how great NE has been or how poor MIA has been.

 

[sho nuff]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

 

[duaneok66]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

it's your team - you manage it, not us . . .

 

[ready5]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.

KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.

All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.

Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

it's your team - you manage it, not us . . .

then why did you volunteer advice?

 

[duaneok66]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.

KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.

All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.

Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

it's your team - you manage it, not us . . .

then why did you volunteer advice?

I was foolish enough to believe that he would listen to me . . .

shame on me . . .

 

[Exile]

I also think that while the Pats should win, it will be closer than most people would think for 3 quarters with the Pats putting the game away late in the game. They have not played well in Miami the past 5 years--no matter how great NE has been or how poor MIA has been.

While this is true, it's also worth noting that the Patriots have never been this great nor the Dolphins this poor over that span.Anyway, thanks for all your great work with Patriots news.

 

[David Yudkin]

Maroney officially listed as questionable. Morris listed as doubtful. Watson listed as questionable.

 

[packersfan]

Clayton thinks Maroney will play. From RotoWorld:

ESPN's John Clayton reports "it appears" the Patriots will get Laurence Maroney (groin) back this week.

A good sign, but we've learned not to take any of this pre-game info too seriously. Check the morning inactives for confirmation on Maroney's status.

 

[David Yudkin]

Clayton thinks Maroney will play. From RotoWorld:ESPN's John Clayton reports "it appears" the Patriots will get Laurence Maroney (groin) back this week.A good sign, but we've learned not to take any of this pre-game info too seriously. Check the morning inactives for confirmation on Maroney's status.

I'm still waiting to hear back on my end, but I cringed at "Rotoworld" and "John Clayon" used in the same sentence as sources.I personally have found the reliability of the national media on Patriots reporting to be spotty at best (and outright inaccurate at worst). I'd stick to the local Boston media when it comes to the Pats.

 

[David Yudkin]

*** FRIDAY UPDATE ***

My man behind the scenes has informed me of his OPINION for this week:

He thinks Maroney WILL PLAY, but the odds are only about 50/50% and he'll again be a game time decision. But this week he's on the WILL PLAY side instead of the WILL SIT side of the fence.

For those following this situation for the past few weeks, this is the first time that my source has come out and felt that Maroney would actually be suited up and on the field. In his own analysis, he has a 50% chance of being wrong.

TO BE CLEAR, this will all depend on how he looks/feels/reacts on Sunday practice before game time.

I also asked if Maroney is a no go, then what. His OPINION was that it would be a mix of Faulk, Evans, and Eckel and a true RBBC depending upon field position, down and distance, etc.

I will check in again over the weekend to see if there's any movement on that front.

That's HIS OPINION . . .

MY OPINION is that Faulk is the best fantasy starter of any of these guys but only use him if you have no other better options. I know folks have injury and bye week issues, and Faulk would be a could option there. But I would not bench someone healthy and a clear starter in favor of Faulk.

I can see Maroney suiting up and playing in a limited role. I still think Faulk will see more work in the passing game with Watson out and Maroney dinged. I would not rule out the dink and dunk ball control passing attack either, where Brady throws a zillion times for 4-6 yards a pop.

 

[Texican]

Thanks Dave

 

[D-BO]

Thanks Dave

Yes, Thanks.

 

[jurrassic]

Dave, do you like Faulk better than Kenny Watson this week? Also what are you thoughts on Welker? Do you think Belicheck will make an effort to get him the ball vs. his old team?

 

[bullitt]

Thanks Dave

Yes, Thanks.

Great info!!!! Thanks for the updates, it really helps.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

*** FRIDAY UPDATE ***My man behind the scenes has informed me of his OPINION for this week:He thinks Maroney WILL PLAY, but the odds are only about 50/50% and he'll again be a game time decision. But this week he's on the WILL PLAY side instead of the WILL SIT side of the fence.For those following this situation for the past few weeks, this is the first time that my source has come out and felt that Maroney would actually be suited up and on the field. In his own analysis, he has a 50% chance of being wrong.TO BE CLEAR, this will all depend on how he looks/feels/reacts on Sunday practice before game time.I also asked if Maroney is a no go, then what. His OPINION was that it would be a mix of Faulk, Evans, and Eckel and a true RBBC depending upon field position, down and distance, etc.I will check in again over the weekend to see if there's any movement on that front.That's HIS OPINION . . . MY OPINION is that Faulk is the best fantasy starter of any of these guys but only use him if you have no other better options. I know folks have injury and bye week issues, and Faulk would be a could option there. But I would not bench someone healthy and a clear starter in favor of Faulk.I can see Maroney suiting up and playing in a limited role. I still think Faulk will see more work in the passing game with Watson out and Maroney dinged. I would not rule out the dink and dunk ball control passing attack either, where Brady throws a zillion times for 4-6 yards a pop.

You are invaluable to this board.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

So I guess I start Maroney over Faulk. If you say so.

Thanks Yudkin!

 

[Pigskins]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS at MIAMI DOLPHINS

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Status Report

QUESTIONABLE LB Eric Alexander (knee), CB Randall Gay (thigh), RB Laurence Maroney (groin), S Mel

Mitchell (groin), DE Mike Wright (knee)

PROBABLE QB Tom Brady (right shoulder), RB Sammy Morris (chest), G Steve Neal (shoulder), WR

Donte' Stallworth (knee), LB Adalius Thomas (ankle), WR Kelley Washington (hamstring), TE

Benjamin Watson (ankle)

Practice Report

DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN PRACTICE

Wednesday LB Eric Alexander (knee), RB Sammy Morris (chest), TE Benjamin Watson (ankle)

Thursday LB Eric Alexander (knee), RB Sammy Morris (chest), TE Benjamin Watson (ankle)

Friday LB Eric Alexander (knee), S Mel Mitchell (groin), RB Sammy Morris (chest), TE Benjamin

Watson (ankle)

LIMITED PARTICIPATION IN PRACTICE

Wednesday CB Randall Gay (thigh), RB Laurence Maroney (groin), S Mel Mitchell (groin), G Steve Neal

(shoulder), WR Donte' Stallworth (knee), LB Adalius Thomas (ankle), WR Kelley Washington

(hamstring)

Thursday CB Randall Gay (thigh), RB Laurence Maroney (groin), S Mel Mitchell (groin), G Steve Neal

(shoulder), WR Donte' Stallworth (knee), LB Adalius Thomas (ankle), WR Kelley Washington

(hamstring)

Friday CB Randall Gay (thigh), RB Laurence Maroney (groin), G Steve Neal (shoulder), WR Donte'

Stallworth (knee), LB Adalius Thomas (ankle), WR Kelley Washington (hamstring), DE Mike

Wright (knee)

FULL PARTICIPATION IN PRACTICE

Wednesday QB Tom Brady (right shoulder)

Thursday QB Tom Brady (right shoulder)

Friday QB Tom Brady (right shoulder)

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

 

[BeachBums]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

 

[Pigskins]

Coach Bellichek should be shot giving false injury reports. Not only does he cheat he's also a waste of space in the NFL.

 

[TheFanatic]

Coach Bellichek should be shot giving false injury reports. Not only does he cheat he's also a waste of space in the NFL.

 

[urbanhack]

Thanks David.

 

[AnonymousBob]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

WTF? Stupid Patriots...didn't see this one coming.

 

[jm_dallas]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

WTF? Stupid Patriots...didn't see this one coming.

From Rotoworld:Sammy Morris was listed as "probable" on the official NFL injury report, but it was an error. His official status remains "doubtful."Rotoworld confirmed Morris' tag in a phone call with Stacey James, the Patriots' Media Relations Director. Local beat writers expect Morris to miss multiple weeks with his chest injury.

 

[AnonymousBob]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

WTF? Stupid Patriots...didn't see this one coming.

From Rotoworld:Sammy Morris was listed as "probable" on the official NFL injury report, but it was an error. His official status remains "doubtful."Rotoworld confirmed Morris' tag in a phone call with Stacey James, the Patriots' Media Relations Director. Local beat writers expect Morris to miss multiple weeks with his chest injury.

That's more like it!

 

[suspected]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

WTF? Stupid Patriots...didn't see this one coming.

From Rotoworld:Sammy Morris was listed as "probable" on the official NFL injury report, but it was an error. His official status remains "doubtful."Rotoworld confirmed Morris' tag in a phone call with Stacey James, the Patriots' Media Relations Director. Local beat writers expect Morris to miss multiple weeks with his chest injury.

They also have Watson as probable. Is this incorrect also? I thought he was going to miss at least a week or two.

 

[BeachBums]

To add more confusion. Morris is listed at Probable while Maroney is Questionable????

I'm getting the same thing from MFL.

WTF? Stupid Patriots...didn't see this one coming.

Is it too early for the official NFL injury report?http://www.nfl.com/injuries

Page I just pulled up is completely blank....

BTW, I'm not questioning the reports in this thread, I'm questioning how MFL has Maroney and Morris listed. My league uses an IR but a player has to be listed as questionable, doubtful or out to be put on IR. I'd planned on putting Morris on IR and activating Addai, but I can't cuz Morris is probable. If it doesn't change I'll have to drop him, Kieth or S. Young.... Yeah, I know. Everyone cares about my team.

 

[brianj74]

I've seemingly spent more time of Maroney (looking for updates etc...) than the rest of my team combined this year.

 

[punzy123]

I've seemingly spent more time of Maroney (looking for updates etc...) than the rest of my team combined this year.

You've probably spent more time reading Moroney updates that he has spent PLAYING!!!

 

[sho nuff]

Faulk is long gone in both my leagues . . .

I have him...trying to deal him.Just cannot start him over Alexander, Portis, and K Jones.

please . . . I'd start him over all three of those . . .Alexander is finished (ask his own fans, they booed him last week), Portis hasn't gone over 100 in 11 games, and KJ . . . (too easy) . . .

I don't make decisions of a RB because fans booed the guy.Portis went for 98 and a TD in week 1...after not going all preseason...on 17 carries.KJ is getting the carries against the #21 rush defense in the league.All 3 will be getting more carries than anyone else on their team...guaranteed.Can anyone, anyone guarantee Faulk sees those carries? I doubt it.

Looks like DY's update is confirming my thoughts...that Faulk would be the riskiest as far as # of carries.Thanks Dave.

 

[David Yudkin]

Here is the OFFICIAL injury report. All the ones posted so far are incorrect:

LINK

Injuries for Week 7

Name Position Injury Status

Sammy Morris RB Chest Doubtful

Eric Alexander LB Knee Questionable

Mel Mitchell S Groin Questionable

Benjamin Watson TE Ankle Questionable

Randall Gay CB Thigh Questionable

Laurence Maroney RB Groin Questionable

Steve Neal G Shoulder Questionable

Donte' Stallworth WR Knee Questionable

Adalius Thomas LB Ankle Questionable

Kelley Washington WR Hamstring Questionable

Mike Wright DE Knee Questionable

Tom Brady QB R Shoulder Probable

 

[bonesman]

Donte' Stallworth WR Knee Questionable

Anything you can share about this guy, DY?Last week you said 'no worries' and were on the button. Is there any concern about the knee actually limiting him?

 

[twitch]

Donte' Stallworth WR Knee Questionable

Anything you can share about this guy, DY?Last week you said 'no worries' and were on the button. Is there any concern about the knee actually limiting him?

Here's the NE injury report pre-game from LAST WEEK-

10/13/07

Patriots - Cowboys Injury Report - 10/13/2007

The New England Patriots (5-0) or the Dallas Cowboys (5-0) have announced the following player injuries.

Friday, October 12, 2007

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (5-0)

Out

Pos. Player Injury

No Players Listed

Doubtful

Pos. Player Injury

No Players Listed

Questionable

Pos. Player Injury

CB Gay, Randall (LP) Thigh

C Koppen, Dan (LP) Ankle

T Light, Matt (DNP) Flu

RB Maroney, Laurence (LP) Groin

S Mitchell, Mel (DNP) Groin

G Neal, Stephen (LP) Shoulder

CB Samuel, Asante (LP) Foot

WR Stallworth, Donte' (LP) Knee

LB Thomas, Adalius (LP) Ankle

WR Washington, Kelley (LP) Hamstring

Probable

Pos. Player Injury

QB Brady, Tom (FP) Right Shoulder

OL Britt, Wesley (DNP) Team Decision

Stallworth was listed as Questionable with the knee last week. He'll be OK.

 

[David Yudkin]

Donte' Stallworth WR Knee Questionable

Anything you can share about this guy, DY?Last week you said 'no worries' and were on the button. Is there any concern about the knee actually limiting him?

I think Donte is like many other WRs in the league where he has a lingering injury that they take it easy on him in practice but is fine to play come game day. I suppose the risk is that he reaggravates it in the game or it feels funny in warmups, but for the most part I thing he will be able to go and not show any limitations . . . he certainly stiff armed the Cowboys defender pretty good last week.

 

[Sheriff66]

Donte' Stallworth WR Knee Questionable

Anything you can share about this guy, DY?Last week you said 'no worries' and were on the button. Is there any concern about the knee actually limiting him?

I think Donte is like many other WRs in the league where he has a lingering injury that they take it easy on him in practice but is fine to play come game day. I suppose the risk is that he reaggravates it in the game or it feels funny in warmups, but for the most part I thing he will be able to go and not show any limitations . . . he certainly stiff armed the Cowboys defender pretty good last week.

He was questionable last week before the Cowboy game, no ?

 

[~Haze~]

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