kylechoffman
Footballguy
THoughts on Morency now that he will have a 2nd rounder or later in his backfield (barring no trades with SD)...
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Morency value now? (1 Viewer)
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FavreCo
Footballguy
If it's Brandon Jackson, then it still won't matter.
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
I thought the Packers were going to get Larry Johnson and Randy Moss today... 
kylechoffman
Footballguy
I know they will - but many people's predraft analysis was that morency would be behind lynch and thus not see as much time as he would as a lower tier back. Now unless turner sees the tundra as his new home, morency sure hs a better chance to tote the rock -- just wondering thoughts on morency now that hes not going to sit in the same pool as lynch.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
I thought the Packers were going to get Larry Johnson and Randy Moss today...
Slinger
Footballguy
Yeah that's the key right there for Morency. If the Packers get Turner or not.
IMO you're hoping that without lynch in green bay morencey will now be a stud. As others have pointed out there are other rbs in the draft available plus green bay may now decide they need to get turner. And if morency is still the starter this upcoming season that doesn't mean he'll be any good.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Brandon Jackson - Nebraska - Round 2 - 5'10" 210LBS - 4.54 40.
Very good athlete...Plays faster than he times...Great quickness and a burst...Has excellent vision, patience and instincts...Tough, strong and runs hard...He is able to run inside and outside effectively...Shifty...Good balance and changes direction well...Was a productive receiver...Not much mileage on his tires...Big-time upside.
Does not have much experience at all...Was never a workhorse in college...Size is only average...Timed speed is okay but not special...Won't run away from anyone and isn't a big play threat...Doesn't have great hands...He's sub par as a blocker.
Thoughts now on the GB backfield??
Very good athlete...Plays faster than he times...Great quickness and a burst...Has excellent vision, patience and instincts...Tough, strong and runs hard...He is able to run inside and outside effectively...Shifty...Good balance and changes direction well...Was a productive receiver...Not much mileage on his tires...Big-time upside.
Does not have much experience at all...Was never a workhorse in college...Size is only average...Timed speed is okay but not special...Won't run away from anyone and isn't a big play threat...Doesn't have great hands...He's sub par as a blocker.
Thoughts now on the GB backfield??
crnerblitz
Footballguy
I think what I said in the Morency Bandwagon thread still holds true, even more so now that it looks like they wont aquire the burner Turner. Morency is also a first day pick, but he has two years experience in the NFL and more importaintly a year in the GB system learning how to keep Brett Favre from getting killed. Barring something unforseen at this point Vernard will open as the starter with a good chance to nail the job down. A decent #2 RB who will outperform his FF ADP. Im still on the Morency bandwagon.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
you're not, not in 07 anyhow.
Righetti
Footballguy
Overall: Jackson saw action in 10 of 11 games as a true freshman in 2004 and carried 85 times for 390 yards (4.6 average) with six touchdowns. In 2005, he played in nine of 12 contests (two starts; Wake Forest, Pitt) and gained just 52 yards on 18 carries (2.9 average). Jackson then started nine of 14 games in 2006, rushed 188 times for 989 yards (5.3 average) and eight touchdowns, adding 33 receptions for 313 yards and two more scores. Over the past three seasons, he also returned 32 kickoffs for 579 yards (18.1 average).
Jackson's biggest weakness is his lack of experience. He will need to improve his bulk and strength in order to hold up as a premier back in the NFL, and he also lacks elite top-end speed. However, Jackson is an instinctive, shifty and tough runner with the size-potential to emerge as a good starter ... For complete overview, strengths and weaknesses, login above or become an Insider.
Jackson's biggest weakness is his lack of experience. He will need to improve his bulk and strength in order to hold up as a premier back in the NFL, and he also lacks elite top-end speed. However, Jackson is an instinctive, shifty and tough runner with the size-potential to emerge as a good starter ... For complete overview, strengths and weaknesses, login above or become an Insider.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Gil Brandt - "He reminds you of Frank Gore. He is elusive and has very good quickness, plus good hands." He had him rated as 4th best back after Peterson, Lynch, and Henry.Experience:The Packers coaching staff believes Jackson's instincts and natural running ability will make him a quick study at the pro game, and will make up for his somewhat smaller stature. "He's a guy who looks like a running back when you watch him on film," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said. "I don't think you're going to have (to do) a ton of training. I think he has some natural ability that it won't take Edgar three years to teach him how to run the ball."Other guys in the draft may be physically bigger, or maybe ran a faster 40, but I don't know if you can teach those guys how to run the football. This kid was probably a good football player when he was 8 years old in the backyard, and hopefully he'll be good when we get him out here on Sundays."kylechoffman said:
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msommer
Footballguy
My take is, they have Morency under contract for a couple of years still (the link to salary information on NFLPA is hidden and I only have it saved at work so I can't say at what salary and for how long - my guess is he'll be RFA in the next two years).
If Jackson's learning curve is steep enuogh to push for playing time (learning to block at pro level, being effective in reps etc.) before that at worst he is Najeh Davenport to Morency's Green. At best it will be full fledged RBBC.
For 2007 though it looks a lot like Morency has the best chance of being #1 for the year.
If Jackson's learning curve is steep enuogh to push for playing time (learning to block at pro level, being effective in reps etc.) before that at worst he is Najeh Davenport to Morency's Green. At best it will be full fledged RBBC.
For 2007 though it looks a lot like Morency has the best chance of being #1 for the year.
betterthanyou
Footballguy
I would have liked to see Lynch in the backfield due to his blocking and catching ability. Unfortunatly as of now Morency looks like the starter.kylechoffman said:
redman
Footballguy
"Experience" will act as a decisive advantage over talent for the purposes of playing time for all of about four games in the more talented player's rookie season. After that, you'll find the experienced guy adding to his experience on the sideline. The key question for me is whether Brandon Jackson is more talented than Morency. I see a lot of people praising him, but he seems raw enough where that's in doubt. Anyone?crnerblitz said:I think what I said in the Morency Bandwagon thread still holds true, even more so now that it looks like they wont aquire the burner Turner. Morency is also a first day pick, but he has two years experience in the NFL and more importaintly a year in the GB system learning how to keep Brett Favre from getting killed. Barring something unforseen at this point Vernard will open as the starter with a good chance to nail the job down. A decent #2 RB who will outperform his FF ADP. Im still on the Morency bandwagon.kylechoffman said:
packersfan
Footballguy
I think Morency opens camp as the starter but I think the Packers ultimately would like Jackson to be the starter with Morency as the third-down, change-of-pace RB. Whether he has the talent to do so is the question. I think a RBBC is the most likely scenario since I'm not sure either RB has the talent to be a full-time starter in this league. It's obviously early so a lot could happen but that'd be my take on the Packers' backfield as we sit here today.
crnerblitz
Footballguy
I agree with most of what you said Redman. Actually it pretty much parrots what I said. As I stated, Morency has first day talent so we cant just say that Jackson is far and away more talented. It may be likely or projected as such but its not a fact until the Pack gets him in camp and see's what they have. I also said that if Jackson has problems picking up blitzers he will not see the field until he corrects that problem. Regardless of how talented he is. See Brian Calhoun for a 2006 pre injury example. They couldn't even trust him enough to give Kevin Jones an occasional blow because he would have gotten Kitna killed.
My opinion is that Morency will be good enough to nail the job down for all of 2007. Irrispective of Jackson.
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