#MoreThanMean - Men read ugly tweets to women Sports Writers (1 Viewer)

[tommyboy]

Someone threatened to cut my throat on this board via PM years ago, I reported it to Joe and the FBI

 

[[scooter]]

"Why does it have to be about black people? Why can't it be about white people?"

 

[Good Posting Judge]

It is pretty sobering when you think about it. I don't understand what's at play here -- guys with abusive moms or beeyotch wives? Lifelong dorks who can't get laid? I can't imagine mean tweeting anyone, not even a woman who deserves it like Ann Coulter or Roseanne or a Kardashian.

I can speak from second-hand experience: There are some dudes who are deeply, deeply frustrated with women as a whole. At some point some of them give up, or their frustration manifests itself in some real ugly ways.

Some of them refer to themselves as IC's, or involuntary celibates. They get into a lot of mumbo-jumbo about power dynamics between men and women, the inherent unfairness of women being more attracted to "alpha males." That kid who shot up the sorority house in Santa Barbara a few years back was along these lines.

 

[Capella]

Someone threatened to cut my throat on this board via PM years ago, I reported it to Joe and the FBI

Details?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Regardless, the whole point if this exhibit is to make men feel guilty. 

Jesus.

Someone threatened to cut my throat on this board via PM years ago, I reported it to Joe and the FBI

That's ####ty. As ####ty as some Twitter egg threatening to kill a female sports reporter.

But they're sharing their specific experiences. They can't speak to yours, just as you can't speak to theirs. I don't see how what they're sharing in any way diminishes the death threat that you received.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

It's a good thing that male sports writers only get gracious and helpful tweets.  Mostly compliments, I bet.

Damn.  You nailed it.  Totally the same thing.  Way to break the code,  Mr. Turning

 

[tommyboy]

Turing

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Damn.  You nailed it.  Totally the same thing.  Way to break the code,  Mr. Turning

Save the gay jokes for twitter.

ntttawwt

 

[tommyboy]

Details?

Some dude joined, threatened me and a couple others and disappeared. Was from southern Calif.  Don't remember his username, just forwarded all the info, then nothing ever happened

 

[Frostillicus]

This thread is amazing.

 

[mr. furley]

wasn't this Spain chick the one who auctioned herself as a date to a Super Bowl game some years ago?

 

[HughHoney]

They can block the people who tweeted this or they can make a video shaming guys who have nothing to do with it for being the same gender as the people who tweeted it. 

 

[HughHoney]

Damn.  You nailed it.  Totally the same thing.  Way to break the code,  Mr. Turning

Don't worry ladies of twitter. Your knight in shining armor is here to save you. 

 

[HughHoney]

Block and report. Block and report. Block and report. The internet and twitter isn't real life . It's strangers you're never met. It's people who don't pay your salary or affect your life. Ignore them and move on. 

 

[The Future Champs]

who gives a ####?

 

[Henry Ford]

Because women catch a disproportionate amount of #### by cowards who hide behind anonymous Twitter handles. Men get it too, and it's also ####ed up, but I'd imagine almost all of the rape threats and a very high proportion of the death threats that are made on Twitter, on any given day, are directed towards women.

I'm sure a white guy was lynched at some point in American history, too. 

And on that day, the "all lives matter" movement was born.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

If you want real-time news and information, nothing beats it...  great resource for FFL as well.

yep, i never tweet anything but great way to get news and info you're interested in.  Can't beat the real-time info twitter provides.

 

[rockaction]

I still remember a few friends in college waking up to chicks riding their passed out, erect selves. Some were traumatized, others dealt a little more stoically. 

But hey, it happens disproportionately, so let's make fun of the "all lives matter" shtick because if you're a guy you recognize your own privilege and shouldn't say anything when there's a gendered stink around. And then let's make the argument that rating female/male attractiveness somehow leads to objectification and rape comments from really weird guys sitting behind computers, because that's not a complete red herring. And we'll all get likes from the usual context-loving white/male privilege guys that love trans restrooms.

Amirite? 

I MEAN, AM I RITE? 

AND IT HAPPENS SO MUCH MORE TO WOMENZ. 

 

[rockaction]

But you do realize that women might find these threats -- in the age of "doxxing", another odious practice -- to be somewhat more credible? Or frightening?

And Twitter is a medium where a lot of people who are well-known communicate with their fans or followers. In theory, that's a good thing. Especially with reporters. A reporter shouldn't have to ignore their mentions. A woman who doesn't cross the street to avoid walking past men who are going to heckle her, isn't "dumb." She isn't the problem.

Doxxing would seem to be sex neutral. Men who offend hackers get their lives and history published on the internet, too. 

This is like me taking the practice of SWATing and making the same argument. I would imagine the amount of people that have had a SWAT team burst through their door is disproportionate in terms of sex/gender also.  

 

[massraider]

Block and report. Block and report. Block and report. The internet and twitter isn't real life . 

Yes, it is.  Those aren't bots sitting there sending out that nastiness.  

 

[Henry Ford]

I still remember a few friends in college waking up to chicks riding their passed out, erect selves. Some were traumatized, others dealt a little more stoically. 

But hey, it happens disproportionately, so let's make fun of the "all lives matter" shtick because if you're a guy you recognize your own privilege and shouldn't say anything when there's a gendered stink around. And then let's make the argument that rating female/male attractiveness somehow leads to objectification and rape comments from really weird guys sitting behind computers, because that's not a complete red herring. And we'll all get likes from the usual context-loving white/male privilege guys that love trans restrooms.

Amirite? 

I MEAN, AM I RITE? 

AND IT HAPPENS SO MUCH MORE TO WOMENZ. 

The existence of white male privilege doesn't negate the fact that bad things also happen to white men, nor vice-versa.

The slogan "black lives matter" is not saying that "non-black lives don't matter."

Saying "save the rainforest" doesn't mean "#### all other types of forests."

 

[Chaka]

...or they can make a video shaming guys who have nothing to do with it for being the same gender as the people who tweeted it. 

It's sad that you think that is what the video was about.

 

[EYLive]

People have been horrible to each other since the beginning of time. This is no different.

We all know those comment were made by loser cowards so... Sticks & stones and whatnot.

 

[mr. furley]

The existence of white male privilege doesn't negate the fact that bad things also happen to white men, nor vice-versa.

The slogan "black lives matter" is not saying that "non-black lives don't matter."

Saying "save the rainforest" doesn't mean "#### all other types of forests."

but seriously, #### forests

 

[Harry Manback]

Block and report. Block and report. Block and report. The internet and twitter isn't real life . It's strangers you're never met. It's people who don't pay your salary or affect your life. Ignore them and move on. 

Looks like someone was embarrassed hearing one of their tweets read aloud.

 

[matuski]

They can block the people who tweeted this or they can make a video shaming guys who have nothing to do with it for being the same gender as the people who tweeted it. 

You seem to feel this video was meant for you...

 

[Insein]

I'm not even bothered by #### like this. Don't get me wrong, the tweets are offensive and wrong without question, but the people tweeting them are just so worthless, who gives a #### what they say?

I envision the biggest wastes of life, with nothing going on, no money, dead end job, in ####ty neighborhoods sitting at their computers doing what they do, which is nothing. 

It actually makes me feel good knowing there are so many losers out there who I have absolutely destroyed in the game of life. 

The lowest form of scum. In fact they're probably bragging to the rest of their community about how their tweet got on TV. All this did was validate their existence. Someone noticed and acknowledged them.

 

[Deepster]

My issue with the video is that I feel the guys reading them are plants or have been coached on how to act.  I would never send a woman anything like that...but if you told me to go and read someone else's tweets to her?  It wouldn't bother me in the least.  I didn't write it.  I don't agree with it.  These guys act too fake and bothered to say something they didn't write.

 

[Chaka]

My issue with the video is that I feel the guys reading them are plants or have been coached on how to act.  I would never send a woman anything like that...but if you told me to go and read someone else's tweets to her?  It wouldn't bother me in the least.  I didn't write it.  I don't agree with it.  These guys act too fake and bothered to say something they didn't write.

My guess is that either you are wrong about how you would react in that situation (how would you know unless you have been put in that situation) or there is something wrong with you.

And if you notice some of the guys are chuckling a little (perhaps nervously) when they first started reading the tweets but their attitude changes as they progress.

 

[General Malaise]

but seriously, #### forests

 

[IC FBGCav]

My issue with the video is that I feel the guys reading them are plants or have been coached on how to act.  I would never send a woman anything like that...but if you told me to go and read someone else's tweets to her?  It wouldn't bother me in the least.  I didn't write it.  I don't agree with it.  These guys act too fake and bothered to say something they didn't write.

I have empathy. I would be real uncomfortable reading "I hope you get raped again" to someone who was raped.  That is just me. 

 

[Foosball God]

I have empathy. I would be real uncomfortable reading "I hope you get raped again" to someone who was raped.  That is just me. 

Same.  It would make me cringe.  I probably wouldn't even do it.

 

[mr. furley]

I MEANT IN THE GAY WAY! 

that's not any better is it

 

[General Malaise]

I MEANT IN THE GAY WAY! 

that's not any better is it

I'm going to give it some honest thought....

Wait, not, you know, the rogering, but whether or not it's better.

 

[Deepster]

My guess is that either you are wrong about how you would react in that situation (how would you know unless you have been put in that situation) or there is something wrong with you.

And if you notice some of the guys are chuckling a little (perhaps nervously) when they first started reading the tweets but their attitude changes as they progress.

Well, I can't say I know with 100% certainty seeing as how I've never been in that exact situation.  I would say, I'm pretty realistic in recognizing when I'm detached from a situation though.  Again, I don't condone the tweets at ALL....but they're not mine.  I'm supposed to be ashamed because someone else tweeted something nasty?  Happens a trillion times a day.

 

[matuski]

Well, I can't say I know with 100% certainty seeing as how I've never been in that exact situation.  I would say, I'm pretty realistic in recognizing when I'm detached from a situation though.  Again, I don't condone the tweets at ALL....but they're not mine.  I'm supposed to be ashamed because someone else tweeted something nasty?  Happens a trillion times a day.

It isn't that you didn't tweet them.. it is that you would/should be uncomfortable speaking those words aloud.  More so aloud to a woman's face.  More so still aloud to a woman's face on camera.  More so again aloud to a woman's face on camera that you know has actually had these horrible things happen to her.

 

[General Malaise]

It isn't that you didn't tweet them.. it is that you would/should be uncomfortable speaking those words aloud.  More so aloud to a woman's face.  More so still aloud to a woman's face on camera.  More so again aloud to a woman's face on camera that you know has actually had these horrible things happen to her.

Yeah, this isn't really the kind of thing to take a macho-man stand upon, IMO.   

 

[Deepster]

Listen.  If that's your take.  You're welcome to it.  I want to reiterate again that I don't condone any of what was said.  I guess I just don't approach some things with the same level emotion or discomfort. 

If you told me to go up to a woman on the street and say this stuff to her without her knowing I was going to do it and she'd think it was my own sentiment?  Yes.  I'd have a problem with that.  For this?  She's sitting there, part of it, knowing you're going to walk in and read something off a card that you didn't write.  It's a staged gig.  I'm able to detach my emotion from that scenario.  It's almost like an actor just reading a script.  They didn't write the play's dialogue.  They're not the actual character.

 

[Godsbrother]

... eventually apologize on behalf of their gender.

 

[dutch]

Listen.  If that's your take.  You're welcome to it.  I want to reiterate again that I don't condone any of what was said.  I guess I just don't approach some things with the same level emotion or discomfort. 

If you told me to go up to a woman on the street and say this stuff to her without her knowing I was going to do it and she'd think it was my own sentiment?  Yes.  I'd have a problem with that.  For this?  She's sitting there, part of it, knowing you're going to walk in and read something off a card that you didn't write.  It's a staged gig.  I'm able to detach my emotion from that scenario.  It's almost like an actor just reading a script.  They didn't write the play's dialogue.  They're not the actual character.

This, to me, is where the discrepancy lies.  The women who are hearing these tweets Are the actual people who are the targets of the hate.  The guys reading the tweets know this bit of information and that is why it colors their emotions.  Knowing also that these tweets are not fictitious lines written as dialogue for a movie but are actual blurts from some creeps out in the real world makes the impact that much stonger, imo.  I mean really, one dude actual wished rape on the woman who had already been raped once before.  That would definitely affect me if I were doing the reading.