Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
fyi -- morris was active today.
watch some games.
watch some games.
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FYI Morris was out for a month and a half prior to last week. You don't think that that, and the fact that Taylor has been out since week 4 have anything to do with Maroney getting more carries than any other Patiots running back at this point? Your boasting that you were right that Maroney was going to emerge as the primary RB in New England only held true because the other two backs he was competing with suffered major injuries. Hardly something to brag about.Kool-Aid Larry said:
This is not true. Morris has been back for several weeks. He played week 12 against the Saints. This is his third week active since his injury.
RamMan
Footballguy
It's that time of week to bump the NE RB thread. The Pats ran the ball a season high 40 times last week vs CAR. I expect that number will rise this weekend vs BUF considering the weather (possible snow flurries/windy conditions), Brady's recent downfield accuracy challenges, and the Bills tuff pass D vs their aweful run D this season. Assuming the run number increases to 45, how do you see the split? Does Taylor play a role this week? Is it safe to assume Maroney gets 25 carries and the remaining 20 or so carries get split up between Morris/Faulk/Taylor? What do you see as the floor/ceiling for Maroney? I'm thinking a floor of 50/1 and a ceiling of 100/2. Could be a great day to be a Maroney owner.
Even ESPN thinks that it will be run, run, run as they have Brady down in the bottom tier of QB's. Yet there is no indication of bad weather or high winds, just normal snow showers, so why would NE not plan a balanced attack? A short passing game with a RBBC split between Maroney, Morris, and Faulk seems more likely, and one long TD to Moss thown in.
RamMan
Footballguy
Last week they threw it 32 times and ran it 40 times. Last season in BUF the Pats ran it 47 times. It also just seems to me that the offense is transitioning to a heavier run game - maybe Brady is more banged up than we know, maybe their inability to establish a WR#3 threat is forcing their hand, not sure. Either way, with the NE run game apparently notching up a tick, do we still foresee Maroney getting 60%- 70% of the touches or is the "RBBC" split still a complete crapshoot from week to week. And how does Taylor coming back figure in?
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Fireballer
Footballguy
I saw that Taylor was ruled out this week. This may be the week that Belichick screws us, but I cant help but think that Moroney is a lock this week! 110 and 2 scores!
From Rotoworld last night:
Fred Taylor-RB- Patriots Dec. 19 - 7:49 pm et
Fred Taylor has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bills.
Taylor is back at practice and feeling good, but the Pats will give him another week to make sure he's 100 percent. Taylor's role upon his return is up in the air, although he figures to take a few carries away from Laurence Maroney.
Source: Mike Reiss on Twitter
From Rotoworld last night:
Fred Taylor-RB- Patriots Dec. 19 - 7:49 pm et
Fred Taylor has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bills.
Taylor is back at practice and feeling good, but the Pats will give him another week to make sure he's 100 percent. Taylor's role upon his return is up in the air, although he figures to take a few carries away from Laurence Maroney.
Source: Mike Reiss on Twitter
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Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
maroney - 23 carries
morris - 4 carries
somebody needs to explain to me what rbbc means.
morris - 4 carries
somebody needs to explain to me what rbbc means.
Now that Maroney has established himself as competant again, I think Morris' value lies clearly as a FB and not as a threat for RB carries.
Last year, NE had three backs who functioned as FBs (Evans, Jordan and Morris). This year Evans and Jordan are both gone.
Check out: http://profootballfocus.com/pstats.php?gameid=1598
When NE lines up with two in the backfield, Morris is the blocking back. It's always Maroney or Faulk as a single back.
Cosell confirms this too, here: http://www.fantasyguru.com/StaffBlog/2009/...n-122209-notes/
Last year, NE had three backs who functioned as FBs (Evans, Jordan and Morris). This year Evans and Jordan are both gone.
Check out: http://profootballfocus.com/pstats.php?gameid=1598
When NE lines up with two in the backfield, Morris is the blocking back. It's always Maroney or Faulk as a single back.
Cosell confirms this too, here: http://www.fantasyguru.com/StaffBlog/2009/...n-122209-notes/
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Maroney has done farily well of late and has clearly benefited from Taylor (ankle) and Morris (knee) being out with some time consuming injuries. Maroney has looked better and more decisive, but he's been far from an elite fantasy back. In our FBG staff league, he ranks 26th on the season and 32nd in ppg.
I relaize those numbers don't reflect his more recent success (again with Taylor and Morris predominently hurt or hobbled). (Maroney ranked 15th over the past 10 weeks.) Taylor should be back this week and Morris may still get some short yardage looks. Faulk also had ac ouple weeks where he saw the ball a fair amount, so even with Maroney getting 20 carries 4 times this year, I would still classify things as a RBBC if all 4 guys suit up.
Maroney only has 735 rushing yards on the season. His value has stemmed from getting in the end zone not his yardage totals, and there has been a lot of talk the past few days in the local media as to what will happen with Taylor coming back. Some folks think Taylor wants to face his old team and show the Jags they made a mistake by letting him go.
I relaize those numbers don't reflect his more recent success (again with Taylor and Morris predominently hurt or hobbled). (Maroney ranked 15th over the past 10 weeks.) Taylor should be back this week and Morris may still get some short yardage looks. Faulk also had ac ouple weeks where he saw the ball a fair amount, so even with Maroney getting 20 carries 4 times this year, I would still classify things as a RBBC if all 4 guys suit up.
Maroney only has 735 rushing yards on the season. His value has stemmed from getting in the end zone not his yardage totals, and there has been a lot of talk the past few days in the local media as to what will happen with Taylor coming back. Some folks think Taylor wants to face his old team and show the Jags they made a mistake by letting him go.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
Last week the announcers were gushing about the relationship developing between BB and Maroney. How they watch film together each week, etc.. I was like - Yes- Maroney is the man for NE. Now Taylor is back, bad-mouthing his former team, etc. looking like he is trying to talk his way onto the field. Morris doesn't concern me as much as Taylor. Morris has looked pretty bad when given carries the past two weeks - but Taylor vs the Jags? Now the waters are very muddy and here I sit with Maroney on championship weekend wondering - what the heck is gonna happen. 
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Fred Taylor is 50-50 to even play. He's talkin' loud and sayin' nothin. Start Maroney and don't sweat it. That's what I'm doing.
RamMan
Footballguy
David...any insight from your insiders as to how the RB pie will be split up this weekend with Taylor back? I've got to decide betwix LT tormorrow night and LM on Sunday. Any scuttlebutt emenating from fairly reliable sources would hopefully tip the scales one way or the other. Do you see LM at least getting 20 touches? TIX and Happy Holidays to all!!
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I think David has put it well here. Maroney is currently the lead, but Morris is getting some carries, and now Fragile Freddie is practicing. The speculation that should be a concern to most is that they are playing JAX, and BB knows that Taylor would like to show his old team they made a mistake letting him go. This caps the upside on Maroney this week in my opinion, so I am looking elsewhere.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm guessing Taylor will have a minimal impact this week, even going against his old team. He practiced fully earlier in the week but by the end of the week he was back to being limited and is listed as questionable. I'd guess Maroney will get 18 carries and about 70-75 rushing yards, Taylor (if they activate him) maybe 6-8 carries, and Morris and Faulk each getting 3-4 carries. I guess if they get a rushing TD it would most likely go to Maroney.
It should be interesting what happens beyond this week (at least in real football) should the Pats win against JAX. NE would have little to play for next week, so unless they want a certain matchup in the first round or want to try to position themselves differently for the second round there really is no incentive to play all their regulars.
It should be interesting what happens beyond this week (at least in real football) should the Pats win against JAX. NE would have little to play for next week, so unless they want a certain matchup in the first round or want to try to position themselves differently for the second round there really is no incentive to play all their regulars.
