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Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.
Did he say anything about Fred's status?Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.
Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.
If the report is true, I think it says worlds about Fred's status...Did he say anything about Fred's status?
agreed.If the report is true, I think it says worlds about Fred's status...Did he say anything about Fred's status?
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FFrenzy... Your avatar makes me laugh every time I see it!!!Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.
http://www.jaguars.com/story/4466.aspTaylor good in workout7/14/05 Jack Del Rio liked what he saw in Fred Taylor, but that doesn't mean the Jaguars have lost interest in trading for Buffalo running back Travis Henry.“I was very encouraged; the fact that he's gaining strength and he's able to do the cutting and the acceleration he's going to have to do to be Fred,” Del Rio said of his evaluation of Taylor's workout this past Monday.Del Rio's family vacation in the Florida panhandle was cut short by Hurricane Dennis, but the Jaguars coach's spirits were buoyed by Taylor's workout. Taylor underwent knee surgery in January that forced him to miss all of the spring workouts while he rehabilitated the knee.When spring practices ended on June 22, Del Rio told reporters he would observe Taylor in July before the start of training camp to determine what Taylor's availability would be for camp. Following Monday's audition, Del Rio has put together a plan for Taylor's training camp participation.“My thought is he'll be on the field for the first shorts practice. We'll open camp with Fred but we'll practice him once a day and it'll be in shorts. We'll monitor him during that first week. We want to see his strength continue to improve. The big thing for Fred is to continue to increase the strength in that leg. He won't take part in the scrimmage but, leading up to the (preseason) game against Miami, we'd like to work him into the padded practices,” Del Rio said.“(Assistant trainer) Joe Sheehan has done a great job with the rehab and Fred has worked his butt off. I was very encouraged with where he is three weeks before camp; actually, two weeks now,” Del Rio added.Meanwhile, the Jaguars are attempting to trade for Henry and news along those lines would seem to be imminent.“The fact that we have an opportunity to acquire a running back of this kind of talent is something we have to look at, so we're looking at it. This may or may not happen, but we're protecting our interests and any time we think we can acquire somebody who can help us we're going to do that. It looks like it's coming to a head in the next few days or week,” Del Rio said.Henry rushed for 1,438 yards in 2002 and for 1,356 yards in '03. He had a 4.1 yards-per-carry rushing average through the first three years of his career, scored 23 touchdowns rushing in '02 and '03 combined and added 71 pass receptions in those two seasons. At 5-9, 215, Henry is a small pounder. He's a rugged inside runner who might be a perfect complement to Taylor. Henry is good in short-yardage and goal-line situations. He's a tough guy who left a game against Houston in '03 with a cracked fibula, then returned in the second half to rush 10 more times and complete a 149-yard day.Best of all, Henry is 26 years old and in the prime of his career. Trading for the former Pro-Bowler shouldn't be considered a stop-gap move.He missed much of last season due to foot and leg injuries, gaining 326 yards on 94 carries, by far the lowest totals of his career. The Bills, of course, are set on making 2003 first-round pick Willis McGahee their feature running back and Henry has said he wants to play where he can be the team's number one runner. “We like all of our guys. We think LaBrandon Toefield can be a very good player. The thing that makes Henry attractive is he's proved he can do it. He's done it and he has a proven track record. We think LaBrandon can step in. If we don't land Travis, LaBrandon will be asked to do that. And Fu. And the forgotten guy is Greg Jones. He's the hammer. We feel like that's a good group, but any time you have a chance to add somebody at a modest price, you have to look at it,” Del Rio added.Tennessee and Seattle are thought to be the other two teams interested in Henry. Working against the Jaguars is the probability Buffalo would prefer to deal Henry to a team that would make the trade risk-free. Seattle, of course, would be that team, since the Seahawks are in the NFC. By trading Henry within the AFC to the Titans or Jaguars, the Bills would be risking the possibility of strengthening teams against whom the Bills would have to compete for a wild-card spot. The Jaguars, it's thought, might represent the greatest threat to the Bills.Expectations are it'll take a third-round pick to do the deal, but no team has yet to step up with a clean third-round offer. Seattle star running back Shaun Alexander is angry about being “franchised” and it's thought the Seahawks will attempt to sign Alexander to a new deal after July 15, the deadline for signing a “franchise” player to a new contract and reclaiming use of the “franchise” designation. Seattle's talk of trading for Henry may be a negotiations ploy.Should the Seahawks trade for Henry, would the Jaguars have interest in trading for Alexander?“I'd rather not be on record on that,” Del Rio said. “We will continue to believe Fred is doing well and we'll have Fred this year.”Asked if his expectations are for Taylor to be in uniform for the regular-season opener, Del Rio replied affirmatively.The Jaguars are to report for the start of training camp on July 29.
Not to rain on your parade, but how is Henry being traded to Jacksonville going to keep Brown healthy this year?I would think that if Tennesee aquired Henry, you would at least know who the clear backup is, and could plan accordingly. Right now, that backup spot has to be one of the muddiest in the whole NFL.
Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.
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The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.Not to rain on your parade, but how is Henry being traded to Jacksonville going to keep Brown healthy this year?I would think that if Tennesee aquired Henry, you would at least know who the clear backup is, and could plan accordingly. Right now, that backup spot has to be one of the muddiest in the whole NFL.
My problem with this is simple, if you don't think Brown is talented enough to be a feature back, you should not be happy that he is on your team at all. Maybe you are just worried that Tenn thinks he is so fragile he needs to be in a RBBC, which begs the same question, why would you be happy he's on your roster at all?The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.
Simple. Because when healthy he can put up RB1 / RB2-type numbers when you can get him for a RB3 / RB4 price. I wouldn't rely on him as RB1 or RB2, but I'll take him as my RB3 or RB4 all day long.My problem with this is simple, if you don't think Brown is talented enough to be a feature back, you should not be happy that he is on your team at all. Maybe you are just worried that Tenn thinks he is so fragile he needs to be in a RBBC, which begs the same question, why would you be happy he's on your roster at all?The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.
The answer to this is simple. Tennessee didnt go after Henry for a 3rd Round Pick like Buffalo wanted. That right there lets Chris Brown owners know that Tennessee is prepared to play the season with him as the go-to guy. No RBBC to it.My problem with this is simple, if you don't think Brown is talented enough to be a feature back, you should not be happy that he is on your team at all. Maybe you are just worried that Tenn thinks he is so fragile he needs to be in a RBBC, which begs the same question, why would you be happy he's on your roster at all?The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.
OR Henry may have lightened Browns load just enough to keep him healthy AND productive. I suppose we won't know the answer to this, so it's not worth arguing. I just found it odd that Brown owners were getting so excited about the prospect of Tenn. not adding Henry, when it may have been a positive situation for them.The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.Not to rain on your parade, but how is Henry being traded to Jacksonville going to keep Brown healthy this year?I would think that if Tennesee aquired Henry, you would at least know who the clear backup is, and could plan accordingly. Right now, that backup spot has to be one of the muddiest in the whole NFL.
It is a much higher likelihood that it would be a bad situation.OR Henry may have lightened Browns load just enough to keep him healthy AND productive. I suppose we won't know the answer to this, so it's not worth arguing. I just found it odd that Brown owners were getting so excited about the prospect of Tenn. not adding Henry, when it may have been a positive situation for them.The thought is that if Henry goes to Tenn, he won't JUST be a backup. It's the RBBC that Brown owners fear. At least if Henry is in Jax, that means that as long as Brown is healthy, he's the undisputed starter there. I'd rather have Brown for only eight weeks at 20-25 carries per game, than a full 16 weeks at 10-12 carries.Not to rain on your parade, but how is Henry being traded to Jacksonville going to keep Brown healthy this year?I would think that if Tennesee aquired Henry, you would at least know who the clear backup is, and could plan accordingly. Right now, that backup spot has to be one of the muddiest in the whole NFL.![]()
I guess it depends on how you view the situations you are presented with in life. Suppose Tennessee signed Henry, and Brown loses all his value. If this happened, you would have to assume it was going to happen sooner or later. Either one of the other backs on the team would eventually overtake Brown, or they draft/sign someone next offseason.It is a much higher likelihood that it would be a bad situation.
Your logic is extremely flawed. We KNOW ALREADY that Brown can produce at a very high level when healthy. The only question is his health.If Brown goes down and a capable replacement like Henry is there, there is a decent chance that Henry would keep the starting job even after Brown returns from injury. Without Henry there, if Brown goes down the replacements will be pretty bad and likely won't produce well at all, leaving that cushy starting spot for Brown when he comes beck from injury.I guess it depends on how you view the situations you are presented with in life. Suppose Tennessee signed Henry, and Brown loses all his value. If this happened, you would have to assume it was going to happen sooner or later. Either one of the other backs on the team would eventually overtake Brown, or they draft/sign someone next offseason.It is a much higher likelihood that it would be a bad situation.
I would want to know sooner, rather than later, if I'm going to be able to count on a guy to be an anchor of my team. It's the same idea as wanting your rookie RB to get playing time so you can see what you have.
Obviously, if I'm a Brown owner, and Tenn. got Henry, and killed Brown's value, that wouldn't be an ideal situation, but there are some positives.
Conversely, what happens if they sign Henry, he spells Brown a bit, and Brown stays healthy and productive all season, and I don't have to worry about starting him every week?
I agree with an earlier poster. If you're assuming that if Tenn. signs someone like Henry that Brown is going to go in the tank, I don't think I'd bother owning Brown in the first place.
Tenn picking up a vet player would be alot better than Tenn picking up Henry.As a Brown owner, you would know who is the #2 and that when Brown comes back healthy, he would just go back to the #1 spot for sure.I guess it depends on how you view the situations you are presented with in life. Suppose Tennessee signed Henry, and Brown loses all his value. If this happened, you would have to assume it was going to happen sooner or later. Either one of the other backs on the team would eventually overtake Brown, or they draft/sign someone next offseason.It is a much higher likelihood that it would be a bad situation.
I would want to know sooner, rather than later, if I'm going to be able to count on a guy to be an anchor of my team. It's the same idea as wanting your rookie RB to get playing time so you can see what you have.
Obviously, if I'm a Brown owner, and Tenn. got Henry, and killed Brown's value, that wouldn't be an ideal situation, but there are some positives.
Conversely, what happens if they sign Henry, he spells Brown a bit, and Brown stays healthy and productive all season, and I don't have to worry about starting him every week?
I agree with an earlier poster. If you're assuming that if Tenn. signs someone like Henry that Brown is going to go in the tank, I don't think I'd bother owning Brown in the first place.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I understand what you're saying. I guess my point was that no matter who they do or don't bring in, the new situation will present some kind of opportunity for the astute FF manager.If Brown goes down and a capable replacement like Henry is there, there is a decent chance that Henry would keep the starting job even after Brown returns from injury. Without Henry there, if Brown goes down the replacements will be pretty bad and likely won't produce well at all, leaving that cushy starting spot for Brown when he comes beck from injury.
I think people forget just how productive Henry was prior to last year. He put up back-to-back seasons of 1350+ rush yds and 11+ TDs. The guy is tough and has a nose for the end zone. Given this hyptohetical situation, I'd be estactic with Henry as my RB2.OK.....here's the hypothetical:
Henry is signed by Jax and it is announced that FT won't be ready to start the season, but no other information is given. Where do you think Henry and Taylor get drafted?
At first guess I'd say Henry would go low 20's among RB's and Taylor in the low 30's.
Thoughts?
Henry going anywhere will only raise his value. Henry being in Buffalo was the worst possible situation for his owners.I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I understand what you're saying. I guess my point was that no matter who they do or don't bring in, the new situation will present some kind of opportunity for the astute FF manager.If Brown goes down and a capable replacement like Henry is there, there is a decent chance that Henry would keep the starting job even after Brown returns from injury. Without Henry there, if Brown goes down the replacements will be pretty bad and likely won't produce well at all, leaving that cushy starting spot for Brown when he comes beck from injury.
Say for example that they did sign Henry. Maybe the Henry owner in your league thinks that that'll kill Henry's value, and you'll be able to trade for him?
Or say Brown loses his starting job. Not a great situation to be sure, but now you can stop wasting a roster spot on the guy.
I'm not trying to speculate what would or wouldn't happen, but just pointing out that just because a team did or didn't sign some guy, that there's great things in store for my player.
I agree, Henry as the #1 Jax RB would probably be a nice fit....The tricky part of the situation is not knowing when/if Taylor comes back, and what happens when he does....Jax may have too crowded a backfield already.I think people forget just how productive Henry was prior to last year. He put up back-to-back seasons of 1350+ rush yds and 11+ TDs. The guy is tough and has a nose for the end zone. Given this hyptohetical situation, I'd be estactic with Henry as my RB2.OK.....here's the hypothetical:
Henry is signed by Jax and it is announced that FT won't be ready to start the season, but no other information is given. Where do you think Henry and Taylor get drafted?
At first guess I'd say Henry would go low 20's among RB's and Taylor in the low 30's.
Thoughts?
When Taylor plays, I would see this as a Dunn/Duckett situation, with Taylor as Dunn and Henry as Duckett.I agree, Henry as the #1 Jax RB would probably be a nice fit....The tricky part of the situation is not knowing when/if Taylor comes back, and what happens when he does....Jax may have too crowded a backfield already.I think people forget just how productive Henry was prior to last year. He put up back-to-back seasons of 1350+ rush yds and 11+ TDs. The guy is tough and has a nose for the end zone. Given this hyptohetical situation, I'd be estactic with Henry as my RB2.OK.....here's the hypothetical:
Henry is signed by Jax and it is announced that FT won't be ready to start the season, but no other information is given. Where do you think Henry and Taylor get drafted?
At first guess I'd say Henry would go low 20's among RB's and Taylor in the low 30's.
Thoughts?
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What exactly would be comedic about that? McGahee came in and took the job because he is better. The Bills were losing with Henry and he wasn't producing, the Bills were winning with McGahee and he was producing exceptionally well on one bum leg. Then Henry has screamed like a child for the last 6 months. I don't really understand how you can root for him over a class act like Willis.Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.![]()
When did this happen? Link?What exactly would be comedic about that? McGahee came in and took the job because he is better. The Bills were losing with Henry and he wasn't producing, the Bills were winning with McGahee and he was producing exceptionally well on one bum leg. Then Henry has screamed like a child for the last 6 months. I don't really understand how you can root for him over a class act like Willis.Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.![]()
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What exactly would be comedic about that? McGahee came in and took the job because he is better. The Bills were losing with Henry and he wasn't producing, the Bills were winning with McGahee and he was producing exceptionally well on one bum leg. Then Henry has screamed like a child for the last 6 months. I don't really understand how you can root for him over a class act like Willis.Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.![]()
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Your right, the writing was on the wall the day that Buf drafted Willis and hoped he could regain his college form.As for the rest, Willis did nothing more than what Henry is doing now and probably less.What exactly would be comedic about that? McGahee came in and took the job because he is better. The Bills were losing with Henry and he wasn't producing, the Bills were winning with McGahee and he was producing exceptionally well on one bum leg. Then Henry has screamed like a child for the last 6 months. I don't really understand how you can root for him over a class act like Willis.Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.![]()
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IIRC, wasn't it Willis, the class act, that cried all through out training camp and preseason last year that if he didn't start he wanted out? He got his shot because Henry got "hurt" and conveniently had a hard time getting cleared by team doctors. Let's be honest dude, the writting was on the wall for Henry long before Willis took over.
I agree with the sentiment of Henry out performing Willis this year because a) Henry got a raw deal with Willis crying his way into the starting spot and b) Buffalo now commanding at leat a 3rd round pick for him. If no takers he rots in Buffalo. not cool.
isn't nash coming off an injury himself, a knee injury??Do you think with Brown's health record and no trade for Henry that my boy from ole mizzou, Damien Nash (my 2nd round pick in college draft in keep league), will see his FF numbers go UP ?
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isn't nash coming off an injury himself, a knee injury??Do you think with Brown's health record and no trade for Henry that my boy from ole mizzou, Damien Nash (my 2nd round pick in college draft in keep league), will see his FF numbers go UP ?
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Beat me to it.Didn't see where I was trying to be comedic. Here are some of Henrys Buffalo years. Believe he was a probowler.What exactly would be comedic about that? McGahee came in and took the job because he is better. The Bills were losing with Henry and he wasn't producing, the Bills were winning with McGahee and he was producing exceptionally well on one bum leg. Then Henry has screamed like a child for the last 6 months. I don't really understand how you can root for him over a class act like Willis.Lets hope the deal gets done soon and the FF world can move on. Be nice to see Henry out rush McGahee this year.Mortenson reported that Henry was in Jacksonville with his agent working on a contract extension and working out for the team. He then later went on to say that he thinks a deal will be signed before training camp.![]()
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IIRC, wasn't it Willis, the class act, that cried all through out training camp and preseason last year that if he didn't start he wanted out? He got his shot because Henry got "hurt" and conveniently had a hard time getting cleared by team doctors. Let's be honest dude, the writting was on the wall for Henry long before Willis took over.
I agree with the sentiment of Henry out performing Willis this year because a) Henry got a raw deal with Willis crying his way into the starting spot and b) Buffalo now commanding at leat a 3rd round pick for him. If no takers he rots in Buffalo. not cool.
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I didn't read all the posts (ugh). I have Brown in a TD only league, so I was worried that Henry would be used as a goalline back or something.And actually, now that you mention it, I should be able to draft Payton, or whoever ends up as the primary back-up, much later than Henry.why, you that happy about Jared Payton as a handcuff?<-- Chris Brown owner