Most Complicated Umpire Ruling (1 Viewer)

[Gaddis]

Cubs/Sox

With men on first and second, DeRosa singles to right field. Felix Pie tags at second and gets a late jump to third while Angel Pagan, who was on first, ran on contact. Juan Uribe obstructs Pagan who'd rounded second to head to third. Meanwhile, Pie stops at third, so Pagan is running toward an occupied base and DeRosa is running toward second. Pagan gets tagged out trying to return to second base and DeRosa starts running back to first (stupid move on his part, I know) and gets caught in a rundown. Pie breaks for home and gets caught in a subsequent rundown (DeRosa runs safely to second). Pie is tagged out.

How do you guess the head umpire ruled on this play?

 

[Green94]

They apparently ruled it obstruction. Crazy play.

In other news...Hawk has lost his freaking mind.

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

What a wild play! Of all my years watching baseball, I don't think I've seen a stranger play than that one. You're the 3rd person I've seen say that Hawk lost his control over that one. I was watching the game and too bad Ozzie didn't pull a Pinella and start ripping bases out and kicking dirt.

That would have been poetic justice!

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Cubs/SoxWith men on first and second, DeRosa singles to right field. Felix Pie tags at second and gets a late jump to third while Angel Pagan, who was on first, ran on contact. Juan Uribe obstructs Pagan who'd rounded second to head to third. Meanwhile, Pie stops at third, so Pagan is running toward an occupied base and DeRosa is running toward second. Pagan gets tagged out trying to return to second base and DeRosa starts running back to first (stupid move on his part, I know) and gets caught in a rundown. Pie breaks for home and gets caught in a subsequent rundown (DeRosa runs safely to second). Pie is tagged out.How do you guess the head umpire ruled on this play?

Ok, I'll give this a shot. I've been at my son's baseball tourney since Wednesday and this is the first I've heard of it. I've seen nothing at all about it.In order of likelihood of what I think would have happened:1. Runner on third (Pie) called out at home. Pagan and Derosa -- safe due to obstruction. Placed at 2nd and 3rd.2. Same thing -- but runners placed at 1st and 2nd.3. Out at home, Pagan out at 2nd. Derosa safe on 2nd.4. Everybody safe due to obstruction.I'd appreciate if the OP or someone else would fill me in.

 

[igbomb]

Cubs/SoxWith men on first and second, DeRosa singles to right field. Felix Pie tags at second and gets a late jump to third while Angel Pagan, who was on first, ran on contact. Juan Uribe obstructs Pagan who'd rounded second to head to third. Meanwhile, Pie stops at third, so Pagan is running toward an occupied base and DeRosa is running toward second. Pagan gets tagged out trying to return to second base and DeRosa starts running back to first (stupid move on his part, I know) and gets caught in a rundown. Pie breaks for home and gets caught in a subsequent rundown (DeRosa runs safely to second). Pie is tagged out.How do you guess the head umpire ruled on this play?

Ok, I'll give this a shot. I've been at my son's baseball tourney since Wednesday and this is the first I've heard of it. I've seen nothing at all about it.In order of likelihood of what I think would have happened:1. Runner on third (Pie) called out at home. Pagan and Derosa -- safe due to obstruction. Placed at 2nd and 3rd.2. Same thing -- but runners placed at 1st and 2nd.3. Out at home, Pagan out at 2nd. Derosa safe on 2nd.4. Everybody safe due to obstruction.I'd appreciate if the OP or someone else would fill me in.

Nobody out. Runners on first, second, and third.Interesting play, and I agreed with the call.

 

[Bojang0301]

Pie goes home, Pagan goes to third, Derosa to second. All are safe due to the obstruction which led to the subsquent events would be my guess.

 

[Gaddis]

Pie goes home, Pagan goes to third, Derosa to second. All are safe due to the obstruction which led to the subsquent events would be my guess.

The problem was that Pie did not attempt to advance to home until after the obstruction. Pagan was essentially rounding second toward an occupied base. It was a very weird situation, which was compounded by poor baserunning. You had a feeling that the Cubs deserved at least an out for being so dumb on the basepaths, but the rulebook worked in their favor. In the end, it didn't affect the outcome of the game. Otherwise, I'd have to listen to Sox fans ##### about it for the next 20 years.

 

[Thorn]

The only weird thing is that the rule says after interference you let the play play out rather than calling it dead at that moment. Really all the umps did is say everything that happened after the interference doesn't count, and award bases based on their judgement of where runners would have been without the interference.