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Bagels are overrated considering they are loaded with carbs and need to be covered in cream cheese. If I'm going to eat that many calories for breakfast I'd rather fry up a couple of eggs and some hashbrowns.

Eggs (store bought eggs) are also overrated. I was recently turned on to farm fresh eggs and it's tough for me to eat store bought eggs again. I didn't think there would be much difference but its amazing.
Can you describe the difference? There's a place near me where I can get farm fresh eggs for about $6 a dozen. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
It can vary immensely even among farms. What a chicken is fed has a huge impact on how the yolk develops and the egg tastes. In general, I find that the darker orange the yolk (as opposed to the pale yellow of a supermarket yolk), the more flavor and unctuousness an egg has. I think it generally correlates positively to how much they're able to pasture the chickens and let them eat bugs and grubs as opposed to how much they have to do with chicken feed. But of course, many farms try to make their feed better as well.
Chickens that get to eat more naturally seems to make tastier eggs. They also seem to cook better as an ingredient.

 
Does "fusion" and "tapas" count?

Fusion is an abomination and mash up of random styles for chefs who haven't learned to cook real ethnic food.

Tapas is a joke. Overpriced dim sum served in tiny portions for hipsters to take pictures of. I've never left a tapas place being satisfied and full with food.
I find fusion to be really good, expensive though. It's like mixing 2 food cultures together gives them a license to charge 50%-75% more. Funnily enough, there's plenty of fusion tapas. :lol: However, Japanese/Peruvian combos are delicious.

I'm not sure where you're located, but dim sum is/should be cheap. I went with my parents and GF for Mothers Day, and we were all stuffed for $35 tax/tip included. Dim sum isn't really tapas, but I won't debate that point.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
nice. I didn't know you had a Chinese wife.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
nice. I didn't know you had a Chinese wife.
One of the best kept secrets on this forum, next to Arizona Ron having an open marriage.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
nice. I didn't know you had a Chinese wife.
Yup. Got her in China so I would be sure to get the real thing.

 
Does "fusion" and "tapas" count?

Fusion is an abomination and mash up of random styles for chefs who haven't learned to cook real ethnic food.

Tapas is a joke. Overpriced dim sum served in tiny portions for hipsters to take pictures of. I've never left a tapas place being satisfied and full with food.
I mentioned Tapas earlier. Spain is a great country, but good restaurants are scarce. Just ton of bars serving tapas which are hard to get filled up on without spending a fortune. Which is odd because the orginal concept of tapas was that they were free. There are some good ones, just hardly ever satisfying.
That's my beef with tapas. It's bastardizing the original concept of cheap, small, fast dishes more akin to street vendor food, and turning around to charge yuppies 5x the price.

 
I find fusion to be really good, expensive though. It's like mixing 2 food cultures together gives them a license to charge 50%-75% more. Funnily enough, there's plenty of fusion tapas. :lol: However, Japanese/Peruvian combos are delicious.
Fusion tapas are the creation of University of Phoenix Culinary School dropouts.

 
German food is pretty disgusting.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's disgusting, but I find it really bland. I like schnitzel, but spaetzle is blah.
Plus, it's not prevalent, so it can't be overrated. "hey honey, let's hit the German restaurant for dinner tonight" :no:
If it was any good, you would be saying that
I agree, but my point is... there are no German restaurants.
I ate at a German restaurant the day before yesterday. It wasn't very good

 
German food is pretty disgusting.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's disgusting, but I find it really bland. I like schnitzel, but spaetzle is blah.
Plus, it's not prevalent, so it can't be overrated. "hey honey, let's hit the German restaurant for dinner tonight" :no:
If it was any good, you would be saying that
I agree, but my point is... there are no German restaurants.
I ate at a German restaurant the day before yesterday. It wasn't very good
We have one here in town that is supposed to be good. But I generally find German food to be so heavy it's just not my thing.

 
Does "fusion" and "tapas" count?

Fusion is an abomination and mash up of random styles for chefs who haven't learned to cook real ethnic food.

Tapas is a joke. Overpriced dim sum served in tiny portions for hipsters to take pictures of. I've never left a tapas place being satisfied and full with food.
I mentioned Tapas earlier. Spain is a great country, but good restaurants are scarce. Just ton of bars serving tapas which are hard to get filled up on without spending a fortune. Which is odd because the orginal concept of tapas was that they were free. There are some good ones, just hardly ever satisfying.
It's my impression that you graze on tapas before your evening meal at around 11 pm. If you remember the evening meal from all the alcohol you've had with your tapas, that is...

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
I love the neighborhood's atmosphere but SF Chinatown doesn't have the best Chinese anything. It's a tourist destination with high rents, no parking and little repeat business. The better Chinese restaurants in the SF Bay Area are in the Richmond district ("New Chinatown") and the suburbs.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same. For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
Your wife sounds racist.

 
Does "fusion" and "tapas" count?

Fusion is an abomination and mash up of random styles for chefs who haven't learned to cook real ethnic food.

Tapas is a joke. Overpriced dim sum served in tiny portions for hipsters to take pictures of. I've never left a tapas place being satisfied and full with food.
I mentioned Tapas earlier. Spain is a great country, but good restaurants are scarce. Just ton of bars serving tapas which are hard to get filled up on without spending a fortune. Which is odd because the orginal concept of tapas was that they were free. There are some good ones, just hardly ever satisfying.
That's my beef with tapas. It's bastardizing the original concept of cheap, small, fast dishes more akin to street vendor food, and turning around to charge yuppies 5x the price.
Plus you always end up settling on some compromise dishes that nobody really wants.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
nice. I didn't know you had a Chinese wife.
Yup. Got her in China so I would be sure to get the real thing.
What about some areas in say flushing, NY? I know even some of the "authentic" places are not really so, or have two menus - one for their brethren and one for gringos. That said, you have a ton of folks in Flushing, Queens, who speak little or no english, have arrived very recently... great food court on one of the malls with a food court that I believe has a good amount of authentic food, especially noodles.

 
I've been to Mexico, Thailand, China, Japan, Italy and France. By and large, the American version of their cuisine isn't that far off the real deal so long as you aren't eating in a chain. I've eaten ####ty Chinese food in China and I've had ####ty Chinese food in the US.
I found Chinese food in America to barely resemble Chinese food in China
American Chinese food bears no resemblance at all to Chinese food in China... even going to Chinatown isn't the same.

For that matter... my wife and I went to San Francisco's Chinatown a couple of years ago... big Chinatown there. Went to what was supposed to be the best Hunan restaurant in SF. My wife is from Hunan province, and she cooks authentic Hunan and speaks the local dialect. She told me the restaurant staff not only didn't speak any Hunan dialect, but they all spoke Cantonese - (from Hong Kong or Guangzho). She also said their version of Hunan food was a rip... "they make it spicy and so they call it Hunan but it is not delicious like Hunan" were pretty close to her exact words.
nice. I didn't know you had a Chinese wife.
Yup. Got her in China so I would be sure to get the real thing.
You can never be too careful with all the fake Chinese women around!

 
I find fusion to be really good, expensive though. It's like mixing 2 food cultures together gives them a license to charge 50%-75% more. Funnily enough, there's plenty of fusion tapas. :lol: However, Japanese/Peruvian combos are delicious.
Fusion tapas are the creation of University of Phoenix Culinary School dropouts.
Didn't University of Michigan schedule a home and home with U of P (C.S.) in 2015-16?

 
My kids binged on netflix this past month.

Thanks COMCAST

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Indian Cuisine

  • Textbook example of trying too hard.
  • Unpleasant to look at
  • I hate, hate ginger
Indian is an example of something you have to go out for. The number of spices that go into each dish is unbelievable plus you can pick your heat level. Epic fail above.

 
I like Indian food but I think it's a hard cuisine to elevate. I've gone to expensive Indian restaurants in London and didn't think the food there was much better than the cheap places I've been to in SF and other US cities. The ingredients were better and there was a little more technique involved but it was still generally very similar. I've been to India on business but I tried to eat as little as possible during my visit.

I've found the differences between high and low-end cuisines from other cultures to be more extreme but I acknowledge the sample size is tiny.

 
German food is pretty disgusting.
GottinHimmel! Have you tried the breaded veal? The sauerbraten? Shame on you!
You don't come across as being Jewish to me.
What, I'm supposed to dislike all German products? Sorry. If someone wants to give me a free Mercedes, I sure as hell will drive it.

I will make this concession: German potato pancakes, while pretty good, are nowhere near as good as Jewish potato pancakes (latkes.)

 
I like Indian food but I think it's a hard cuisine to elevate. I've gone to expensive Indian restaurants in London and didn't think the food there was much better than the cheap places I've been to in SF and other US cities. The ingredients were better and there was a little more technique involved but it was still generally very similar. I've been to India on business but I tried to eat as little as possible during my visit.

I've found the differences between high and low-end cuisines from other cultures to be more extreme but I acknowledge the sample size is tiny.
Yeah, my experience is completely different. Even if I'm only having tikka masala, it's just an entirely different dish at a place like Rasika (the best place in DC) or in a respected London place than in a normal neighborhood Indian joint. It's the same concept, but the spices are just blended more subtly.

My kids binged on netflix this past month.

Thanks COMCAST

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Copy and Paste-esque of my original sentiment:

Indian Cuisine

  • Textbook example of trying too hard.
  • Unpleasant to look at
  • I hate, hate ginger
Indian is an example of something you have to go out for. The number of spices that go into each dish is unbelievable plus you can pick your heat level. Epic fail above.
I enjoyed learning to cook Indian when I was in my 20s. There were some missteps, but it was also incredibly rewarding to get right.

 
German food is pretty disgusting.
GottinHimmel! Have you tried the breaded veal? The sauerbraten? Shame on you!
You don't come across as being Jewish to me.
What, I'm supposed to dislike all German products? Sorry. If someone wants to give me a free Mercedes, I sure as hell will drive it.

I will make this concession: German potato pancakes, while pretty good, are nowhere near as good as Jewish potato pancakes (latkes.)
Loved him on Taxi.

 
Lobster and Beef Filet.
If you can lobster from a place that got it from a boat that brought it in from a trap "just out there," it is spectacular. But a tail, frozen in a restaurant that mostly does other things is a different story.

The fact that american BBQ has been mentioned in here proves this thread has zero street cred.
Same with the BBQ, a place that does it in the oven compared to one that does it for just short of forever in a smoker and you are talking apples and oranges.

 
That's why I love L.A., and my part of L.A. in particular. I have a German/Swiss restaurant up the street from me, plus a Burmese spot, Indian

place, Himalayan restaurant and Pakistani place

within 10 minutes. And yes, they all taste different.
Jealous.
 
Bagels are overrated considering they are loaded with carbs and need to be covered in cream cheese. If I'm going to eat that many calories for breakfast I'd rather fry up a couple of eggs and some hashbrowns.

Eggs (store bought eggs) are also overrated. I was recently turned on to farm fresh eggs and it's tough for me to eat store bought eggs again. I didn't think there would be much difference but its amazing.
Can you describe the difference? There's a place near me where I can get farm fresh eggs for about $6 a dozen. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
It can vary immensely even among farms. What a chicken is fed has a huge impact on how the yolk develops and the egg tastes. In general, I find that the darker orange the yolk (as opposed to the pale yellow of a supermarket yolk), the more flavor and unctuousness an egg has. I think it generally correlates positively to how much they're able to pasture the chickens and let them eat bugs and grubs as opposed to how much they have to do with chicken feed. But of course, many farms try to make their feed better as well.
Chickens that get to eat more naturally seems to make tastier eggs. They also seem to cook better as an ingredient.
There have been a few limited studies that seem to indicate that the color makes a large difference in perception. Blind there is no taste difference, and there is minimal nutrition difference once cooked. Raw might be a different story nutrition wise, but it's the brighter more eggy color that people like and associate with better flavor.

 
I like Indian food but I think it's a hard cuisine to elevate. I've gone to expensive Indian restaurants in London and didn't think the food there was much better than the cheap places I've been to in SF and other US cities. The ingredients were better and there was a little more technique involved but it was still generally very similar. I've been to India on business but I tried to eat as little as possible during my visit.

I've found the differences between high and low-end cuisines from other cultures to be more extreme but I acknowledge the sample size is tiny.
why is this a big deal? You like paying more for upscale food?

 
That's why I love L.A., and my part of L.A. in particular. I have a German/Swiss restaurant up the street from me, plus a Burmese spot, Indian

place, Himalayan restaurant and Pakistani place

within 10 minutes. And yes, they all taste different.
Jealous.
The downside is you pretty much need to go to the hood to get good BBQ. TX, memphis and NC people would piss on the ribs found in L.A.'s westside.

 
Bagels are overrated considering they are loaded with carbs and need to be covered in cream cheese. If I'm going to eat that many calories for breakfast I'd rather fry up a couple of eggs and some hashbrowns.

Eggs (store bought eggs) are also overrated. I was recently turned on to farm fresh eggs and it's tough for me to eat store bought eggs again. I didn't think there would be much difference but its amazing.
Can you describe the difference? There's a place near me where I can get farm fresh eggs for about $6 a dozen. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
It can vary immensely even among farms. What a chicken is fed has a huge impact on how the yolk develops and the egg tastes. In general, I find that the darker orange the yolk (as opposed to the pale yellow of a supermarket yolk), the more flavor and unctuousness an egg has. I think it generally correlates positively to how much they're able to pasture the chickens and let them eat bugs and grubs as opposed to how much they have to do with chicken feed. But of course, many farms try to make their feed better as well.
Chickens that get to eat more naturally seems to make tastier eggs. They also seem to cook better as an ingredient.
There have been a few limited studies that seem to indicate that the color makes a large difference in perception. Blind there is no taste difference, and there is minimal nutrition difference once cooked. Raw might be a different story nutrition wise, but it's the brighter more eggy color that people like and associate with better flavor.
I think the darker yoke makes a better egg. I almost associate that bright yellow yolk with food coloring. it's just kind of fake. And I do taste a difference. Used to be my wife wouldn't eat scrambled eggs. I got to her try some after I started getting fresh eggs from a friend with chickens and now she loves them. She never saw them until they were on her plate.

 
That's why I love L.A., and my part of L.A. in particular. I have a German/Swiss restaurant up the street from me, plus a Burmese spot, Indian

place, Himalayan restaurant and Pakistani place

within 10 minutes. And yes, they all taste different.
Jealous.
The downside is you pretty much need to go to the hood to get good BBQ. TX, memphis and NC people would piss on the ribs found in L.A.'s westside.
Waste of piss

 
Bagels are overrated considering they are loaded with carbs and need to be covered in cream cheese. If I'm going to eat that many calories for breakfast I'd rather fry up a couple of eggs and some hashbrowns.

Eggs (store bought eggs) are also overrated. I was recently turned on to farm fresh eggs and it's tough for me to eat store bought eggs again. I didn't think there would be much difference but its amazing.
Can you describe the difference? There's a place near me where I can get farm fresh eggs for about $6 a dozen. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
It can vary immensely even among farms. What a chicken is fed has a huge impact on how the yolk develops and the egg tastes. In general, I find that the darker orange the yolk (as opposed to the pale yellow of a supermarket yolk), the more flavor and unctuousness an egg has. I think it generally correlates positively to how much they're able to pasture the chickens and let them eat bugs and grubs as opposed to how much they have to do with chicken feed. But of course, many farms try to make their feed better as well.
Chickens that get to eat more naturally seems to make tastier eggs. They also seem to cook better as an ingredient.
There have been a few limited studies that seem to indicate that the color makes a large difference in perception. Blind there is no taste difference, and there is minimal nutrition difference once cooked. Raw might be a different story nutrition wise, but it's the brighter more eggy color that people like and associate with better flavor.
I think the darker yoke makes a better egg. I almost associate that bright yellow yolk with food coloring. it's just kind of fake. And I do taste a difference. Used to be my wife wouldn't eat scrambled eggs. I got to her try some after I started getting fresh eggs from a friend with chickens and now she loves them. She never saw them until they were on her plate.
The color is still discernible scrambled. If I wasn't lazy I'd find some links on the taste tests. It was a trendy topic a few years ago when local eggs came in vogue. Some of the taste tests obviously had agendas, but controlled for freshness and blind there just wasn't any difference that was statistically measurable.

Most of the benefits cited in the studies tend to be that the "farm eggs" are fresher. Supermarket eggs can be weeks old and the farms don't have a huge inventory system so they have to get rid of it in a hurry. Freshness makes a difference in how the fat reacts to heat, but this is more important for baking than just general consumption.

 
Yup. Got her in China so I would be sure to get the real thing.
Next time if you're going to head all the way around the world to buy an asian woman, you should have at least gotten one from a country where they're attractive. China is the montana of the asian bridal pool. :X

 
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the moops said:
Zow said:
EYLive said:
That's why I love L.A., and my part of L.A. in particular. I have a German/Swiss restaurant up the street from me, plus a Burmese spot, Indian

place, Himalayan restaurant and Pakistani place

within 10 minutes. And yes, they all taste different.
Jealous.
Doesn't every major city have multiple ethnic options within 10 mminutes?
You tell me.

link up a map and I'll link mine.

 
Not gonna go through the hassle of a map, but in a 10 minute drive from my house in Mpls, there is Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Somali, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Malaysian, Indian, Nepalese, Tibetan, German, Mexican, Hmong, and a lot more I am not listing.

:shrug:

 
Not gonna go through the hassle of a map, but in a 10 minute drive from my house in Mpls, there is Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Somali, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Malaysian, Indian, Nepalese, Tibetan, German, Mexican, Hmong, and a lot more I am not listing.

:shrug:
In Minneapolis? That's pretty good variety.

 
Not gonna go through the hassle of a map, but in a 10 minute drive from my house in Mpls, there is Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Somali, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Malaysian, Indian, Nepalese, Tibetan, German, Mexican, Hmong, and a lot more I am not listing.

:shrug:
In Minneapolis? That's pretty good variety.
Well that was kind of my point. Minneapolis has a decent food scene, but it;s not anything extraordinary. Hence the bit about I think most major cities have a whole crapload of ethnic places to eat at

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I enjoyed learning to cook Indian when I was in my 20s. There were some missteps, but it was also incredibly rewarding to get right.
I learned that the secret for a great curry is in the blended & fried onions that give the sauce it's texture & depth. It takes several onions and alot of blending, so it becomes an onion paste. Then you have to fry it in oil for a while to cook the harshness of the onion out. That becomes the base for the curry sauce.

Otherwise, you can just go to any bazzar, buy their pre mixed spices for whichever dish, and throw it into a slow cooker with some meat. That's pretty much the jist for all curry/masala dishes.

Only thing that never works at home is naan. You need a home tandoori or brick pizza oven to get that one right.

 
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Not gonna go through the hassle of a map, but in a 10 minute drive from my house in Mpls, there is Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Somali, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Malaysian, Indian, Nepalese, Tibetan, German, Mexican, Hmong, and a lot more I am not listing.

:shrug:
There was a great turkish place I used to hit up on Snelling. Plus the twin cities have really good russian (Moscow on the hill), Polish (Nays) and, as good as can crappy german food can be, Glockenspiel.

Twin cities really has a better than average food diversity.

 

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