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Have you watched him play? I say without him Belichick would suffer greatly.
again, belichick cheated for years. He was a sixth-round pick, and we all know how they usually play. I hate the patriots for cheating, and i still think he'd cheat. Tom Brady needs to get away from that cheater.
Ocho Sucko is a good pick as he usually has 2 big games a year and then a lot of hot air. But I gotta go Reggie Bush on offense, just eaking out a victory over Vince Young.For D, I'll go Roy Williams, DAL.
Randy Moss= a hall of fame lock, but only if he gets a ringbased on rings - tom bradybased on actual performance and health - peyton manning
Remember though? how the expert thought he was garbage?look what he did! Tom Brady was 3-0 in Super Bowls before losing to a manning. I thought this match, unlike what the point spread thought, was going to be extremely close. the giants win it on a heroic joe montana style drive by eli manning, who is in his mid 20's
I've heard he is a total #####, yet he's always portrayed as a quiet, nice guy.Overrated
I wouldn't say he's ever been over-rated. He's old and frail now so he totally avoids contact. But that time he fell down and the Broncos defenders never went over to touch him. THat was classic when he got up and strolled into the endzone. He's a great route runner and hard worker. He would not be where he is without Manning but he's a great WR. Or was. So many times he totally smoked a DB. Anotehr classic was when an overmatched Deion Sanders tried to cover Harrison and Harrison made him look so bad that Sanders had to grab his hammy as he watched a double move Harrison school him.
Excellent choice. Such a one year wonder that I totally forgot about him. He's going to suck again in Oak this year. Where does he go in 2009?
But the only reason Brady has all his rings is because of the stupid tuck rule, remember..
tuck rule my ###, it is because of bill belicheat.
Agreed for sure, and second is probably not that close.
We get it. Move along.J
maybe it worked for one year? what about the other two rings? exactly. they cheated, and goodell has the evidence.
COACH Roy Williams
The Titans' roster filled with Pro Bowl receivers have helped VY look good.
So just because he is on a poor roster you can just assume what he could do in a Colts offense? No way can you predict that, you have to look at what the guy is in the situation he is in. Or better yet, don't be bragging the guy up like he is the next great thing. For god's sake man, he only threw for 17 TD's last year. David Garrard threw for 18 TD's and missed 4 games last year. But you don't hear his name being spread around like Youngs. And frankly, I don't think JAX WR's are any better than the Titans. I'll give them slight edge, but not much.
Qb are judged by team wins and losses. VY led the Titans to a 10-6 record last yr while playing in the same division as the Colts. That is impressive and sure Young needs to continue to improve, but the Titans are not doing him any favors by drafting rbs early in every draft instead of some wr help. Vince Young is a natural born leader and winner. I'll let you stat geeks worry about his numbers. Titans and their fans only care about W-L.
So essentially then we agree. We can call him the next Brad Johnson. He can manage a game and get you a W, but it isn't going to be stat "wow'ing" numbers. Therefor the title of this tread is the most overrated player, and I think he has to be up there as when was the last time you heard of Brad Johnson spoke of in the same context that people talk about Vince Young.
These are the first two names that I thought of.
Actually, he only threw 9 TDs. 17 was the number of INTs.But in any case, yes, Vince Young is junk. I get so tired of hearing how great he is, or is supposed to be, or if he had receivers, or if he had more time to develop and learn the game, or...
How could of I missed that spectacular number. I was just saw 17 and thought a man of this caliber had to have at least 17 TD's. 9...are you kidding me. How can you honestly make an argument for a guy who can't even throw double digit TD's?
Yes, "9", but at least that's higher than his Wonderlic score was!!How could of I missed that spectacular number. I was just saw 17 and thought a man of this caliber had to have at least 17 TD's. 9...are you kidding me. How can you honestly make an argument for a guy who can't even throw double digit TD's?
His is post is funny come on, he cant be serious he just stirring the pot. :whoosh:
I'll go along with that.
Yeah, this Qb hasn't produced too many wins with his arm, but he has took the game and won it with his legs a few times- I couldn't believe it. After this draft, I think a lot of people will agree with you that the Titans wont match up offensively with any of their division rivals; Garrard has looked much better than Vince.FF_Guru said:
Basically anyone the Raiders sign as a FA.
