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OK, MSW passed the "Revis" test last week, but this week, he's playing against Buffalo, which has been great against the pass (mainly b/c the suck so bad against the run). They've only given up 2 receiving TDs all year.

Is he a must start, or do you look for a better matchup? What matchups would make you sit him?

 
At this point, MSW is almost a "you can't bench stud" in my book. Yes Garrard can be horrible at times, but MSW has seemingly fought through Garrard's limitations in all but one game this year, including the game last week against NYJ. Granted Revis didn't cover MSW all game long; but at the end of the day, MSW produced enough to keep me satisfied and better than most WRs have done against the NYJ all season.

Even more important to me is MSW's consistency thus far. He's only played in 7 games (out week 1 and inactive another week for his "behavior") when most other WRs have played in 9 games up until this point. If you apply MSW's stats from those 7 games over 9 games, he would be the 4th WR in standard PPR scoring. And since he's maintained his production more or less over 7 games and not had one glaringly high scoring week; I feel comfortable in applying his stats from his 7 games to a full season thus far.

So even though I agree with your take on the Bills defense and the fact that MJD will most likely run all over them, I still don't think MSW should be sat in this game or any other game moving forward. Until he's earned the right in my opinion to start regardless of matchup until he stops producing like he has been.

 
I miss the should I start Megatron with a crappy QB threads from last year.

While MSW is not the same kind of situation - uber stud draft pick v. player whose initial development was slowed by injury and other factors - there is something comforting about knowing that week in and week out, there is sure to be various threads asking the same question: can MSW keep up the pace?

Yes. But don't stop posting these; when I see one every week, somehow the world just seems right.

 
Unless you have uber studs are the WR slot, MSW has to be a weekly starter regardless of the matchups, especially if it's at Jax where Davey Garrard has been known to play better.

 
sandlotshrink said:
Unless you have uber studs are the WR slot, MSW has to be a weekly starter regardless of the matchups, especially if it's at Jax where Davey Garrard has been known to play better.
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This is my problem, i don't think he will see the starting lineup again over Moss, Colston, and White. But I am tempted.
 
CrossEyed said:
Buffalo is terrible against the run. I'd expect a big dose of MJD and not a lot of action for MSW.
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Buffalo is indeed horrible against the run, surrendering the most FF points to RBs of any defense.But does it follow that a heavy dose of MJD means less work for MSW?Jones-Drew averages more than 22 touches per game; twice this year, he has topped 30 touches (33 and 38 IIRC).Sims-Walker numbers in those two games?11 targets, 9-120-08 targets, 6-147-1
 
BobbyLayne said:
CrossEyed said:
Buffalo is terrible against the run. I'd expect a big dose of MJD and not a lot of action for MSW.
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Buffalo is indeed horrible against the run, surrendering the most FF points to RBs of any defense.But does it follow that a heavy dose of MJD means less work for MSW?Jones-Drew averages more than 22 touches per game; twice this year, he has topped 30 touches (33 and 38 IIRC).Sims-Walker numbers in those two games?11 targets, 9-120-08 targets, 6-147-1
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Hmmm, I stand corrected. Good to know.
 
i'm starting him over greg jennings because greg jennings sucks and I am fed up with starting a suck WR who sucks every week and continues to suck. MSW is 10x better then greg jennings.

 
Buffalo has a pretty good Pass D as far as yards & TDs allowed, BUT they don't have a lockdown corner with McGee out. I don't own MSW, but I'd start him if I did.

 
Resident A said:
Buffalo has a pretty good Pass D as far as yards & TDs allowed, BUT they don't have a lockdown corner with McGee out. I don't own MSW, but I'd start him if I did.
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People keep looking at the #s and assuming Buffalo is good vs the pass, but...@ Pats - 368 pass yds, 73 rush, 25 pts

vs Bucs - 296 pass yds (Leftwich anyone? No A.Bryant?), 57 rush, 20 pts

vs Saints - 156 pass yds, 222 rushing yds, 27 pts

@ Phins - 86 pass yds, 250 rushing yds, 38 pts

vs Browns - 22 pass yds, 171 rush, 6 pts

@ Jets - 96 pass yds, 318 rush, 13 pts

@ Car - 309 pass, 116 rush, 9 pts -- While everyone is whining about Delhomme being the next JaMarcus.

vs Hou - 253 pass, 186 rush, 31 pts

@ Ten - 210 pass, 168 rush, 41 pts -- With V.Young!!!

Looks more like some really crappy offenses mixed in with some good running days.

I see good pass yardage #s because the Saints decided to run all over them, rather than pass for 500. The Dolphins ran all over them, the Browns can't field an offense, the Jets let their run game go rather than their rookie QB, Delhomme ***the '09 suck*** went off on them and Houston was good for 180 + on the ground.

I see the Jags with 190 passing and 220 rushing. I doubt Jones-Drew takes more than 50 passing yards, 30 or so to Marcedes leaving another 100+ for mostly Walker. I could easily see a good day from him.

 
Cookiemonster said:
Resident A said:
Buffalo has a pretty good Pass D as far as yards & TDs allowed, BUT they don't have a lockdown corner with McGee out. I don't own MSW, but I'd start him if I did.
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People keep looking at the #s and assuming Buffalo is good vs the pass, but...@ Pats - 368 pass yds, 73 rush, 25 pts

vs Bucs - 296 pass yds (Leftwich anyone? No A.Bryant?), 57 rush, 20 pts

vs Saints - 156 pass yds, 222 rushing yds, 27 pts

@ Phins - 86 pass yds, 250 rushing yds, 38 pts

vs Browns - 22 pass yds, 171 rush, 6 pts

@ Jets - 96 pass yds, 318 rush, 13 pts

@ Car - 309 pass, 116 rush, 9 pts -- While everyone is whining about Delhomme being the next JaMarcus.

vs Hou - 253 pass, 186 rush, 31 pts

@ Ten - 210 pass, 168 rush, 41 pts -- With V.Young!!!

Looks more like some really crappy offenses mixed in with some good running days.

I see good pass yardage #s because the Saints decided to run all over them, rather than pass for 500. The Dolphins ran all over them, the Browns can't field an offense, the Jets let their run game go rather than their rookie QB, Delhomme ***the '09 suck*** went off on them and Houston was good for 180 + on the ground.

I see the Jags with 190 passing and 220 rushing. I doubt Jones-Drew takes more than 50 passing yards, 30 or so to Marcedes leaving another 100+ for mostly Walker. I could easily see a good day from him.
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good stuff CM...and I agree, good day for MSW
 
Cookiemonster said:
Resident A said:
Buffalo has a pretty good Pass D as far as yards & TDs allowed, BUT they don't have a lockdown corner with McGee out. I don't own MSW, but I'd start him if I did.
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People keep looking at the #s and assuming Buffalo is good vs the pass, but...@ Pats - 368 pass yds, 73 rush, 25 pts

vs Bucs - 296 pass yds (Leftwich anyone? No A.Bryant?), 57 rush, 20 pts

vs Saints - 156 pass yds, 222 rushing yds, 27 pts

@ Phins - 86 pass yds, 250 rushing yds, 38 pts

vs Browns - 22 pass yds, 171 rush, 6 pts

@ Jets - 96 pass yds, 318 rush, 13 pts

@ Car - 309 pass, 116 rush, 9 pts -- While everyone is whining about Delhomme being the next JaMarcus.

vs Hou - 253 pass, 186 rush, 31 pts

@ Ten - 210 pass, 168 rush, 41 pts -- With V.Young!!!

Looks more like some really crappy offenses mixed in with some good running days.

I see good pass yardage #s because the Saints decided to run all over them, rather than pass for 500. The Dolphins ran all over them, the Browns can't field an offense, the Jets let their run game go rather than their rookie QB, Delhomme ***the '09 suck*** went off on them and Houston was good for 180 + on the ground.

I see the Jags with 190 passing and 220 rushing. I doubt Jones-Drew takes more than 50 passing yards, 30 or so to Marcedes leaving another 100+ for mostly Walker. I could easily see a good day from him.
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:moneybag: Thanks for taking the time to put this together ... good stuff.
 
smackthefirst said:
At this point, MSW is almost a "you can't bench stud" in my book. Yes Garrard can be horrible at times, but MSW has seemingly fought through Garrard's limitations in all but one game this year, including the game last week against NYJ. Granted Revis didn't cover MSW all game long; but at the end of the day, MSW produced enough to keep me satisfied and better than most WRs have done against the NYJ all season.Even more important to me is MSW's consistency thus far. He's only played in 7 games (out week 1 and inactive another week for his "behavior") when most other WRs have played in 9 games up until this point. If you apply MSW's stats from those 7 games over 9 games, he would be the 4th WR in standard PPR scoring. And since he's maintained his production more or less over 7 games and not had one glaringly high scoring week; I feel comfortable in applying his stats from his 7 games to a full season thus far. So even though I agree with your take on the Bills defense and the fact that MJD will most likely run all over them, I still don't think MSW should be sat in this game or any other game moving forward. Until he's earned the right in my opinion to start regardless of matchup until he stops producing like he has been.
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:football:
 
i hate it when bye weeks end and every week becomes a tough decision.

i have MJD, CJ3 starting.

I have Colston, VJax starting.

That leaves 3 options for 2 flex spots; Boldin, Pierre and MSW. Whoever sits will have the best game. I will try to remember to post here so people can take advantage of my mistake to help their teams.

 
May change my mind but I'm benching MSW for Kellen Winslow, Jr this week in a PPR league.

I just see the Saints being up and Tampa throwing a ton and when playing catchup KW2 seems like a better bet for 8/100/1 type of week. MSW will likely also see the end zone but I don't see the Jags airing it out that much vs the Fitzpatrick led Bills.

 
Cookiemonster said:
Resident A said:
Buffalo has a pretty good Pass D as far as yards & TDs allowed, BUT they don't have a lockdown corner with McGee out. I don't own MSW, but I'd start him if I did.
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People keep looking at the #s and assuming Buffalo is good vs the pass, but...@ Pats - 368 pass yds, 73 rush, 25 pts

vs Bucs - 296 pass yds (Leftwich anyone? No A.Bryant?), 57 rush, 20 pts

vs Saints - 156 pass yds, 222 rushing yds, 27 pts

@ Phins - 86 pass yds, 250 rushing yds, 38 pts

vs Browns - 22 pass yds, 171 rush, 6 pts

@ Jets - 96 pass yds, 318 rush, 13 pts

@ Car - 309 pass, 116 rush, 9 pts -- While everyone is whining about Delhomme being the next JaMarcus.

vs Hou - 253 pass, 186 rush, 31 pts

@ Ten - 210 pass, 168 rush, 41 pts -- With V.Young!!!

Looks more like some really crappy offenses mixed in with some good running days.

I see good pass yardage #s because the Saints decided to run all over them, rather than pass for 500. The Dolphins ran all over them, the Browns can't field an offense, the Jets let their run game go rather than their rookie QB, Delhomme ***the '09 suck*** went off on them and Houston was good for 180 + on the ground.

I see the Jags with 190 passing and 220 rushing. I doubt Jones-Drew takes more than 50 passing yards, 30 or so to Marcedes leaving another 100+ for mostly Walker. I could easily see a good day from him.
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Not totally fair as the Saints exploded for a couple big runs in the last 6 minutes of a 17-7 game. And bolding 41 pts that included two pick 6's? Umm ok. Can't argue with much else though.
 
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