Musa Smith (1 Viewer)

[rawdog]

I know there's been some Musa threads about how many touches he can expect as a backup or whether he'll be starting a la Michael Turner somehwere else next year.

But how him taking Jamal Lewis' job outright?

Musa Smith-RB- Ravens Oct. 2 - 4:59 pm et

Ravens head coach Brian Billick said in his Monday presser that he aims to get Musa Smith and Mike Anderson more carries going forward.

It may just be coachspeak, but Jamal Lewis could do nothing on the ground in Week 5. Smith showed much more burst on his two carries. It wouldn't surprise us to see Musa take the starting job later in the year.

 

[Capt Hook]

I listened to Billick's PC and he said "Jamal has been running the ball very well"

He said that he was glad to have the depth with Smith and Anderson behind Lewis, but that they were all aware of the situation and the limited opportunities it might present (for Smith and Anderson) going forward.

NOWHERE during the PC (at least the part shown on NFL Network did he say Musa was getting more carries.

 

[Chubbs]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

 

[Sopranos]

Smith already has career highs in touches and yards this season. He will get 5-7 touches. Him as the starter...Nahh.. He is an ok dynasty prospect but not even close to turner. Turners value in a dynasty is very high..

 

[wraith5]

I know there's been some Musa threads about how many touches he can expect as a backup or whether he'll be starting a la Michael Turner somehwere else next year.

But how him taking Jamal Lewis' job outright?

Musa Smith-RB- Ravens Oct. 2 - 4:59 pm et

Ravens head coach Brian Billick said in his Monday presser that he aims to get Musa Smith and Mike Anderson more carries going forward.

It may just be coachspeak, but Jamal Lewis could do nothing on the ground in Week 5. Smith showed much more burst on his two carries. It wouldn't surprise us to see Musa take the starting job later in the year.

Didn't we just finish week 4?

 

[Jackal King]

If the Ravens keep winning...I just don't think there's enough motivation for BB to make a change.

Musa has his moments...but he's not 'lights out' compared to Jamal.

His time may come this year...but I think it's going to require a string of losses as a prerequisite.

Until then...COP.

 

[pinequick]

I know there's been some Musa threads about how many touches he can expect as a backup or whether he'll be starting a la Michael Turner somehwere else next year.

But how him taking Jamal Lewis' job outright?

Musa Smith-RB- Ravens Oct. 2 - 4:59 pm et

Ravens head coach Brian Billick said in his Monday presser that he aims to get Musa Smith and Mike Anderson more carries going forward.

It may just be coachspeak, but Jamal Lewis could do nothing on the ground in Week 5. Smith showed much more burst on his two carries. It wouldn't surprise us to see Musa take the starting job later in the year.

TOTAL NONSEQUITER: When did "press conferences" start being called "pressers"? Is this new, or have I just been out of the loop? And does anybody else find the practice annoying?

 

[packersfan]

Didn't we have this exact same discussion last season with regard to Chester Taylor? Does anyone really believe anything's going to be any different this time around?

 

[Jackal King]

Didn't we have this exact same discussion last season with regard to Chester Taylor? Does anyone really believe anything's going to be any different this time around?

Not appreciably different. I think Jamal was more vulnerable last year than he appears to be now.

 

[mojorizin]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

I would agree that I dont expect Jamal to go anywhere this season, particularly with a fair QB and a great defense, but I dont know that we seriously need links and concrete information for an owner to HOLD Musa Smith (Or any other player for that matter - how often will we EVER get concrete info on a 2nd/3rd string guy that proves he'll ever be anything at all?). If you've been carrying that useless hump for a couple of seasons, another year isnt gonna hurt just in case. Some guys that spend years as a backup turn into gold, the majority never get beyond where they started. They all look faster or niftier for a quarter or so.

 

[Chubbs]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)3.) A lingering Hip Pointer4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

 

[bigupsetter]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

I would agree that I dont expect Jamal to go anywhere this season, particularly with a fair QB and a great defense, but I dont know that we seriously need links and concrete information for an owner to HOLD Musa Smith (Or any other player for that matter - how often will we EVER get concrete info on a 2nd/3rd string guy that proves he'll ever be anything at all?). If you've been carrying that useless hump for a couple of seasons, another year isnt gonna hurt just in case. Some guys that spend years as a backup turn into gold, the majority never get beyond where they started. They all look faster or niftier for a quarter or so.

the real thing to keep in mind is that baltimore is winning, regardless of Jamal. as long as they keep winning, there will be no big shake ups during the season

 

[mojorizin]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

I would agree that I dont expect Jamal to go anywhere this season, particularly with a fair QB and a great defense, but I dont know that we seriously need links and concrete information for an owner to HOLD Musa Smith (Or any other player for that matter - how often will we EVER get concrete info on a 2nd/3rd string guy that proves he'll ever be anything at all?). If you've been carrying that useless hump for a couple of seasons, another year isnt gonna hurt just in case. Some guys that spend years as a backup turn into gold, the majority never get beyond where they started. They all look faster or niftier for a quarter or so.

the real thing to keep in mind is that baltimore is winning, regardless of Jamal. as long as they keep winning, there will be no big shake ups during the season

Absolutely. Dont screw with team chemistry when it doesnt make a difference.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.

arguably the best rushing defense in the NFL - the entire offense sucked

2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)

was Musa Smith on the Raiders?

3.) A lingering Hip Pointer

that hasn't made him miss a single snap.

4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

link to show that Musa's PRE-SEASON is on the coaching staff's minds? whaaat a reach.

This is my point. You get a Musa owner saying that it's time to "HOLD" and you ask him why, and you get a bunch of conjecture based on nothing. Since you're obviously capable of reading the "coach's staff's minds" maybe you can tell me how they feel about the performance of the o-line?Is Jamal running great? No. But he's running a lot better than last seaosn, and that didn't help Chestor Taylor out all that much. Lewis is the guy, barring injury. Billick just doesn't have it in him to take out his starting RB on a 4-0 team.

 

[brednbuddah]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.

2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)

3.) A lingering Hip Pointer

wha? He wasn't even on the injury report this week.

4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

so now you know what the coaching staff is thinking?

 

[Chubbs]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.

arguably the best rushing defense in the NFL - the entire offense sucked

2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)

was Musa Smith on the Raiders?

3.) A lingering Hip Pointer

that hasn't made him miss a single snap.

4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

link to show that Musa's PRE-SEASON is on the coaching staff's minds? whaaat a reach.

This is my point. You get a Musa owner saying that it's time to "HOLD" and you ask him why, and you get a bunch of conjecture based on nothing. Since you're obviously capable of reading the "coach's staff's minds" maybe you can tell me how they feel about the performance of the o-line?Is Jamal running great? No. But he's running a lot better than last seaosn, and that didn't help Chestor Taylor out all that much. Lewis is the guy, barring injury. Billick just doesn't have it in him to take out his starting RB on a 4-0 team.

OK OK Calm down. Its just my opinion. But IMO I personally think its gonna be sooner than later. People can take this opinion with a grain of salt except you it seems. I have no links, I have no one on one interviews with the Ravens. But from what Jamal has done, which is nothing much thus far, I believe we will see a change .

If your still upset that I dont have a link, call me, you really have bigger problems.

Footballguys......what happened to the good old days?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.

arguably the best rushing defense in the NFL - the entire offense sucked

2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)

was Musa Smith on the Raiders?

3.) A lingering Hip Pointer

that hasn't made him miss a single snap.

4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

link to show that Musa's PRE-SEASON is on the coaching staff's minds? whaaat a reach.

This is my point. You get a Musa owner saying that it's time to "HOLD" and you ask him why, and you get a bunch of conjecture based on nothing. Since you're obviously capable of reading the "coach's staff's minds" maybe you can tell me how they feel about the performance of the o-line?Is Jamal running great? No. But he's running a lot better than last seaosn, and that didn't help Chestor Taylor out all that much. Lewis is the guy, barring injury. Billick just doesn't have it in him to take out his starting RB on a 4-0 team.

OK OK Calm down. Its just my opinion. But IMO I personally think its gonna be sooner than later. People can take this opinion with a grain of salt except you it seems. I have no links, I have no one on one interviews with the Ravens. But from what Jamal has done, which is nothing much thus far, I believe we will see a change .

If your still upset that I dont have a link, call me, you really have bigger problems.

Footballguys......what happened to the good old days?

Let me understand.You make a claim saying that you think there will be a change in a starting RB in Baltimore.

I ask you if you have anything to support said claim.

You make a bunch of stuff up.

I point out that most of the stuff you posted is made up.

And now I'm "upset" and need to "calm down"?

I never said you can't have an opinion - I asked you to support it. It's pretty easy to make claims based on almost nothing, and it's even easier to call a person "upset" when they call you out on it.

 

[Chubbs]

Well you sure did ruin this thread fast. Didnt know the Shark Poll was against opinons. I'll stop posting now, we dont want clog up this thread with B.S.

 

[Sopranos]

Look if they resigned Lewis after the season he had last season Musa is not taking his job. Lewis kept the job last season and he was worse than Barlow

 

[Otis]

I think Musa could be the better back at this point. He was a terror in the preseason. He has skills that Jamal doesn't.

Definitely worth stashing IMO

 

[PatsWillWin]

Well you sure did ruin this thread fast. Didnt know the Shark Poll was against opinons. I'll stop posting now, we dont want clog up this thread with B.S.

jeez "calm down"

 

[Kiddnets]

Just my opinion but I brought Lewis low - I think he is going to have a nice streak starting soon.

I seriously doubt that they will make a change while winning. Ain't broke don't fix!

No link to support any of the above comments and this is a guy who started D Jax over S Moss costing me a game this weekend so take with a grain of salt - actually completely disregard!

 

[snarfsnarf]

Billick shows too much loyalty to players under-producing. (Example sticking with Boller too long)

Musa is clearly the quicker back, Jamal just looks slow out there.

I dont think its gonna take an injury anymore for Musa to start.

To Musa Owners: HOLD, his time is coming soon.

Anything to backup and/or support anything?

Yeah, 1.) 15 carries for 34 yards this week.

arguably the best rushing defense in the NFL - the entire offense sucked

2.) The raiders ran for 82 yards on 18 carries on SD in week 1. ( In week 2 TEN did nothing but then again its TEN)

was Musa Smith on the Raiders?

3.) A lingering Hip Pointer

that hasn't made him miss a single snap.

4.) Musa's pre-season on the coaching staff's minds.

link to show that Musa's PRE-SEASON is on the coaching staff's minds? whaaat a reach.

This is my point. You get a Musa owner saying that it's time to "HOLD" and you ask him why, and you get a bunch of conjecture based on nothing. Since you're obviously capable of reading the "coach's staff's minds" maybe you can tell me how they feel about the performance of the o-line?Is Jamal running great? No. But he's running a lot better than last seaosn, and that didn't help Chestor Taylor out all that much. Lewis is the guy, barring injury. Billick just doesn't have it in him to take out his starting RB on a 4-0 team.

OK OK Calm down. Its just my opinion. But IMO I personally think its gonna be sooner than later. People can take this opinion with a grain of salt except you it seems. I have no links, I have no one on one interviews with the Ravens. But from what Jamal has done, which is nothing much thus far, I believe we will see a change .

If your still upset that I dont have a link, call me, you really have bigger problems.

Footballguys......what happened to the good old days?

Let me understand.You make a claim saying that you think there will be a change in a starting RB in Baltimore.

I ask you if you have anything to support said claim.

You make a bunch of stuff up.

I point out that most of the stuff you posted is made up.

And now I'm "upset" and need to "calm down"?

I never said you can't have an opinion - I asked you to support it. It's pretty easy to make claims based on almost nothing, and it's even easier to call a person "upset" when they call you out on it.

None of the posters comments were made up. Lewis did run for 34yds on 15 carries last week. The Raiders did run for more against the same team (a counterpiont to your "SD run defense is great" remark before you even posted it). Lewis has had a Hip pointer issues. And the coaching staff does like Smith.The guy think this adds up to Musa having a shot at the starting job some point this year, it's a valid thought although probably more likely to not occur than occur......but in either case, the points and thoughts are valid. Get over it.

 

[newteech]

Musa's in a contract year. He will be busting his ### every time they give him the rock.

Gotta get paid

 

[Couch Potato]

Interesting.

Chubbs is reaching for anything he can find to convince us (himself?) Musa is on the verge of taking over.

I checked his sig. Yup, Musa owner.

JetsWillWin is overly defensive arguing back, incensed at the suggestion of Lewis losing his job.

I checked his sig. Yup, Jamal owner.

Interesting.

 

[Ditka is God]

I know there's been some Musa threads about how many touches he can expect as a backup or whether he'll be starting a la Michael Turner somehwere else next year.

But how him taking Jamal Lewis' job outright?

Musa Smith-RB- Ravens Oct. 2 - 4:59 pm et

Ravens head coach Brian Billick said in his Monday presser that he aims to get Musa Smith and Mike Anderson more carries going forward.

It may just be coachspeak, but Jamal Lewis could do nothing on the ground in Week 5. Smith showed much more burst on his two carries. It wouldn't surprise us to see Musa take the starting job later in the year.

For some reason that made me laugh.

 

[PatsWillWin]

None of the posters comments were made up. Lewis did run for 34yds on 15 carries last week. The Raiders did run for more against the same team (a counterpiont to your "SD run defense is great" remark before you even posted it). Lewis has had a Hip pointer issues. And the coaching staff does like Smith.The guy think this adds up to Musa having a shot at the starting job some point this year, it's a valid thought although probably more likely to not occur than occur......but in either case, the points and thoughts are valid. Get over it.

So you're saying that the Chargers does not have a top 5 defense in the NFL?And he didn't say the coaching staff "liked" Musa, which in itself is irrelevant because they can "like" him as a backup, he said that Musa's "pre-season was on the coaching staff's mind". So do you think that Chubbs can read the coaching staff's mind?It has nothing to do with being a Lewis owner - the team in my sig is on team, I have about 10 teams, and I own Musa in more leagues than I do Lewis. Lewis hasn't been great - 3.7 ypc. This backup RB that is so much out-performing the incumbant? Wow - 3.7 ypc as well. Team is 4-0. Billick has a history of stickin with Lewis when he doesn't run well.Sorry - I need something more than conjectured based on total reaches to consider this a possible move. You can guys can keep getting mad if you want, I'll enjoy it.

 

[Chubbs]

None of the posters comments were made up. Lewis did run for 34yds on 15 carries last week. The Raiders did run for more against the same team (a counterpiont to your "SD run defense is great" remark before you even posted it). Lewis has had a Hip pointer issues. And the coaching staff does like Smith.The guy think this adds up to Musa having a shot at the starting job some point this year, it's a valid thought although probably more likely to not occur than occur......but in either case, the points and thoughts are valid. Get over it.

So you're saying that the Chargers does not have a top 5 defense in the NFL?And he didn't say the coaching staff "liked" Musa, which in itself is irrelevant because they can "like" him as a backup, he said that Musa's "pre-season was on the coaching staff's mind". So do you think that Chubbs can read the coaching staff's mind?It has nothing to do with being a Lewis owner - the team in my sig is on team, I have about 10 teams, and I own Musa in more leagues than I do Lewis. Lewis hasn't been great - 3.7 ypc. This backup RB that is so much out-performing the incumbant? Wow - 3.7 ypc as well. Team is 4-0. Billick has a history of stickin with Lewis when he doesn't run well.Sorry - I need something more than conjectured based on total reaches to consider this a possible move. You can guys can keep getting mad if you want, I'll enjoy it.

 

[PatsWillWin]

None of the posters comments were made up. Lewis did run for 34yds on 15 carries last week. The Raiders did run for more against the same team (a counterpiont to your "SD run defense is great" remark before you even posted it). Lewis has had a Hip pointer issues. And the coaching staff does like Smith.The guy think this adds up to Musa having a shot at the starting job some point this year, it's a valid thought although probably more likely to not occur than occur......but in either case, the points and thoughts are valid. Get over it.

So you're saying that the Chargers does not have a top 5 defense in the NFL?And he didn't say the coaching staff "liked" Musa, which in itself is irrelevant because they can "like" him as a backup, he said that Musa's "pre-season was on the coaching staff's mind". So do you think that Chubbs can read the coaching staff's mind?It has nothing to do with being a Lewis owner - the team in my sig is on team, I have about 10 teams, and I own Musa in more leagues than I do Lewis. Lewis hasn't been great - 3.7 ypc. This backup RB that is so much out-performing the incumbant? Wow - 3.7 ypc as well. Team is 4-0. Billick has a history of stickin with Lewis when he doesn't run well.Sorry - I need something more than conjectured based on total reaches to consider this a possible move. You can guys can keep getting mad if you want, I'll enjoy it.

 

[Biabreakable]

what is going on here? <_<

 

[zamboni]

Didn't we have this exact same discussion last season with regard to Chester Taylor? Does anyone really believe anything's going to be any different this time around?

I was thinking the same thing.Lewis had no business remaining the guy last year, yet Billick kept going with him and using Taylor as the change of pace.This year, while he still doesn't appear to be the guy he used to be, Lewis is running much better than last year. And more importantly, as noted, the team is 4-0.Barring injury, I don't see Musa taking over anytime soon.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Didn't we have this exact same discussion last season with regard to Chester Taylor? Does anyone really believe anything's going to be any different this time around?

I was thinking the same thing.Lewis had no business remaining the guy last year, yet Billick kept going with him and using Taylor as the change of pace.This year, while he still doesn't appear to be the guy he used to be, Lewis is running much better than last year. And more importantly, as noted, the team is 4-0.Barring injury, I don't see Musa taking over anytime soon.

 

[zoos]

yeah you need to dampen any optimism for smith-

last year lewis was gimpy, looked horrible and...ADMITTED HE WASN'T PLAYING HARD! and still kept the job for the most part.

also i think smith looked bad in the one preseason game he played with the first team and then criticized the offensive line's performance. he did look good running aganst 2nd and 3rd teamers in preseason but if you look at the whole preseason picture, he didn't end well.

 

[Don Phillips Plumber]

I like a few others I have seen around, still believe musa smith is LL Cool J, but what do I know?

 

[Harry Beanbag]

I am carrying Musa Smith on my roster only as a handcuff because I also have JLew. If Lewis goes down with an injury that is the reason I am carrying Smith. I do have delusions of grandure thinking he will supplant Lewis.