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Macdaddy_2004

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Loving it!!!!!

:banned:

Took some heat from other league members at first but it looks as if Mushy or Berrian are good for #1 WR stats every week (think 80yds and a TD).

 
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.

Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the year

Is anyone else starting this duo ??

 
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
You know this is going to happen for the rest of the year?What else can you tell us about this thing called the future?
 
My point is by having Mushy and Berrian in my lineup its almost as if I have a Holt, TO or Chad Johnson.

80 yds and a TD every week

Loving it

:banned:

 
My point is by having Mushy and Berrian in my lineup its almost as if I have a Holt, TO or Chad Johnson.80 yds and a TD every weekLoving it :banned:
I don't get how this is a good thing...you are saying it takes two avg. players to get the numbers of ONE good player.....if I was starting Mushy and Berrian every week I would not be Loving it!
 
You would if you waited till round 8 in a 10 team redraft to pick your first WR

And if your team was stacked at QB, and RB in a a start 2QB start 2RB and 1 WR/RB 10 team redraft

 
You would if you waited till round 8 in a 10 team redraft to pick your first WRAnd if your team was stacked at QB, and RB in a a start 2QB start 2RB and 1 WR/RB 10 team redraft
I normally dont nit pick other league setups, because to each their own... but 2 QB's 2 RB's and one WR :confused:
 
Because I got Muhammad so cheap in the draft and Berrian off waivers 3 weeks ago, I am having problems with which one to start in most my leagues. They are both performing well, but a couple of my leagues factor in distance of TD's and BB is 8th and 9th in those two leagues for WR's and MM is 19th and 20th.

I may have to sit Fitz the next couple weeks and start both. So yes, you should be loving it as the are both producing. It is not taking one to get you numbers, both are getting numbers.

I just have the "problem" of having S. Smith and Fitz (I just can't bring myself to bench Fitz) in front of both in a start 3 WR league.

 
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Macdaddy_2004 said:
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
Both of these guys are #2 WRs at best but I am glad you are happy. Just remember they only play GB and Det. one more time.
 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
Both of these guys are #2 WRs at best but I am glad you are happy. Just remember they only play GB and Det. one more time.
The point of it is one of them always puts up #1 WR stats every weekWeek 1 - Mushy 6/102Week 2 - Berrian 5/89/1Week 3 - Mushy 9/118Week 4 - Berrian 3/108/1Total stats - 27/417/2In my league this would be good enough for #2 WR overall.The #2WR stats out of Chicago areWeek1 - Berrian 1/49/1Week2 - Mushy 4/59/0Week3 - Berrian 6/70/0Week4 - Mushy 5/45/1Total stats - 16/223/2In my league this would be good enough for WR#30So provided you have one other solid WR who can put up top 15 numbers you are looking pretty consistent using this strategy
 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
Both of these guys are #2 WRs at best but I am glad you are happy. Just remember they only play GB and Det. one more time.
The point of it is one of them always puts up #1 WR stats every weekWeek 1 - Mushy 6/102Week 2 - Berrian 5/89/1Week 3 - Mushy 9/118Week 4 - Berrian 3/108/1Total stats - 27/417/2In my league this would be good enough for #2 WR overall.The #2WR stats out of Chicago areWeek1 - Berrian 1/49/1Week2 - Mushy 4/59/0Week3 - Berrian 6/70/0Week4 - Mushy 5/45/1Total stats - 16/223/2In my league this would be good enough for WR#30So provided you have one other solid WR who can put up top 15 numbers you are looking pretty consistent using this strategy
Everyone else's point is that you are getting WR#1 production out of two guys, which isn't that hard to do. Yours happen to be on the same time but I could come up with other combinations of WR's that between them put up WR#1 numbers each week.
 
I don't have both but I can't even bring myself to start Muhammad at all this week (we start 2). Even with OAK struggling, I have to start Moss (I HAVE to give him one more chance) vs SF. I'm also starting Jennings in a better matchup vs STL, so Muhammad and Edwards are on my bench this week.

 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
Both of these guys are #2 WRs at best but I am glad you are happy. Just remember they only play GB and Det. one more time.
The point of it is one of them always puts up #1 WR stats every weekWeek 1 - Mushy 6/102Week 2 - Berrian 5/89/1Week 3 - Mushy 9/118Week 4 - Berrian 3/108/1Total stats - 27/417/2In my league this would be good enough for #2 WR overall.The #2WR stats out of Chicago areWeek1 - Berrian 1/49/1Week2 - Mushy 4/59/0Week3 - Berrian 6/70/0Week4 - Mushy 5/45/1Total stats - 16/223/2In my league this would be good enough for WR#30So provided you have one other solid WR who can put up top 15 numbers you are looking pretty consistent using this strategy
Everyone else's point is that you are getting WR#1 production out of two guys, which isn't that hard to do. Yours happen to be on the same time but I could come up with other combinations of WR's that between them put up WR#1 numbers each week.
Somewhat true - so how do you maximize this strategy - do you take your other WR and pair him up with a RB and try to get a true stud WR ??
 
Dudes, this isn't a new strategy at all, just progressive-minded. In fact I was one of the first to employ the method back in the 80's. Yes, the 80's fellas!!!!...while many of you were still suckling from your mommy's teet.

My dynamic duo, you ask?

Henry "give 'em he"Ellard (get it?)

Flipper Mother####ing Anderson

:bowtie:

 
Dudes, this isn't a new strategy at all, just progressive-minded. In fact I was one of the first to employ the method back in the 80's. Yes, the 80's fellas!!!!...while many of you were still suckling from your mommy's teet.My dynamic duo, you ask?Henry "give 'em he"Ellard (get it?)Flipper Mother####ing Anderson:bowtie:
I don't get the statagy or progressive minded part of this. You play your best players that is my statagy. Now I may not have invented it but I have been using it since the 90's. It seems to work.
 
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intrinsic said:
:cookie:Who can recall the last time you could pick from the Bears WRs worth starting? :shock:
Last time Ron Turner was OC.Conway and Grahmn were a pretty good tandem in 1995
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REC  YARD   AVG  TD Conway  62	 1037   16.7  12Grahmn  82	 1301   15.9   4
 
intrinsic said:
:cookie:Who can recall the last time you could pick from the Bears WRs worth starting? :shock:
Marcus Robinson was a beast in '99, think he had 1400 yards and 9 TDs....I remember he had a 170 yd. 3 TD game in Week 15 that made many fantasy owners VERY happy... ;)
 
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Dudes, this isn't a new strategy at all, just progressive-minded. In fact I was one of the first to employ the method back in the 80's. Yes, the 80's fellas!!!!...while many of you were still suckling from your mommy's teet.My dynamic duo, you ask?Henry "give 'em he"Ellard (get it?)Flipper Mother####ing Anderson:bowtie:
I don't get the statagy or progressive minded part of this. You play your best players that is my statagy. Now I may not have invented it but I have been using it since the 90's. It seems to work.
Well then, you and your ilk know NOTHING.I used to start ### #### Rolf Benerchke if I felt like it or whatever they call him back in the 70's young fella! Always came out ahead to!
 
The Bears offense is doing great right now. But keep it in perspective, they played the Packers, the Lions (at home), had a tough game in the Minny-Dome and totally outplayed the Seahawks.

Berrian has trouble staying healthy - so don't go proclaiming jack squat. He's a solid #3 WR though. Eventually his 40+ yard TD catches will dry up - and that's right when the Bears running game will open up.

 
The Bad CEO said:
Dudes, this isn't a new strategy at all, just progressive-minded. In fact I was one of the first to employ the method back in the 80's. Yes, the 80's fellas!!!!...while many of you were still suckling from your mommy's teet.My dynamic duo, you ask?Henry "give 'em he"Ellard (get it?)Flipper Mother####ing Anderson:bowtie:
I don't get the statagy or progressive minded part of this. You play your best players that is my statagy. Now I may not have invented it but I have been using it since the 90's. It seems to work.
Well then, you and your ilk know NOTHING.I used to start ### #### Rolf Benerchke if I felt like it or whatever they call him back in the 70's young fella! Always came out ahead to!
That's nothing, I started “Bullet” Bill Dudley in the 40's and he took me right to the first FF playoff EVAH! :yes:
####in' A. :bow:
 
The point of it is one of them always puts up #1 WR stats every weekWeek 1 - Mushy 6/102Week 2 - Berrian 5/89/1Week 3 - Mushy 9/118Week 4 - Berrian 3/108/1Total stats - 27/417/2In my league this would be good enough for #2 WR overall.The #2WR stats out of Chicago areWeek1 - Berrian 1/49/1Week2 - Mushy 4/59/0Week3 - Berrian 6/70/0Week4 - Mushy 5/45/1Total stats - 16/223/2In my league this would be good enough for WR#30So provided you have one other solid WR who can put up top 15 numbers you are looking pretty consistent using this strategy
And this is all contingent on Chicago having a moderately good day and not giving significant looks to other receivers. Just like the stock market, significantly lower diversification can translate to greater risk. With increased risk comes increased returns, or increased losses. It all looks great provided the sun is shining, but you should temper your enthusiasm with some realism as well. You're speaking as if this guarantees you a WR1 performance, and the reality is that you aren't guaranteed of anything. Thus far, though, you're right, it looks decent. The major reason it works, though, is only b/c few people expected Chicago to be this good. Not because of any particular strategy. Had they been more Atlanta-like in their performance, you'd obviously be lamenting doing this.And as an aside, two players having to combine output to match one player on your opponent's team is not something I would be "pleased with". The thing to be pleased with is that you have two WRs who are out-playing their draft position.
 
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The point of it is one of them always puts up #1 WR stats every weekWeek 1 - Mushy 6/102Week 2 - Berrian 5/89/1Week 3 - Mushy 9/118Week 4 - Berrian 3/108/1Total stats - 27/417/2In my league this would be good enough for #2 WR overall.The #2WR stats out of Chicago areWeek1 - Berrian 1/49/1Week2 - Mushy 4/59/0Week3 - Berrian 6/70/0Week4 - Mushy 5/45/1Total stats - 16/223/2In my league this would be good enough for WR#30So provided you have one other solid WR who can put up top 15 numbers you are looking pretty consistent using this strategy
And this is all contingent on Chicago having a moderately good day and not giving significant looks to other receivers. Just like the stock market, significantly lower diversification can translate to greater risk. With increased risk comes increased returns, or increased losses. It all looks great provided the sun is shining, but you should temper your enthusiasm with some realism as well. You're speaking as if this guarantees you a WR1 performance, and the reality is that you aren't guaranteed of anything. Thus far, though, you're right, it looks decent. The major reason it works, though, is only b/c few people expected Chicago to be this good. Not because of any particular strategy. Had they been more Atlanta-like in their performance, you'd obviously be lamenting doing this.And as an aside, two players having to combine output to match one player on your opponent's team is not something I would be "pleased with". The thing to be pleased with is that you have two WRs who are out-playing their draft position.
I'm not sure you realize how many leagues Mac Daddy wins each year. He didn't get that name for nothing, pal.
 
The point of my post is that there is a certain amount of consistency you can expect when you start two WR's from the same team provided that the offence is above average.Its sweet knowing that either Mushy or Berrian will be putting up WR1 stats in my lineup for the rest of the yearIs anyone else starting this duo ??
Meh, its OK, better duos include:Wayne/Harrison (duh)Holt/BruceColes/Crotch is debatableColston/HornGlenn/TOand some others, but it is OK!
 
I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.

I'll take diversity any day.

 
I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.I'll take diversity any day.
Several years back on a site that Football Guys bought (I was so mad, but FBG has served me well since then :thumbup: ) I remember reading an article that did a very in depth statistical analysis of starting two players on the same team at different positions. The whole "if they get shut down" argument was proven to be mostly insignificant.I don't remember the exact numbers but two players on different teams are almost as likely, percentage wise, the get shut out as two on the same team.The conclusion I remember well. Draft and start the best player at a position you need regardless of whether or not they are teammates, the "eggs in one basket" factor is not as detrimental as choosing an inferior player.Just my $.02
 
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I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.I'll take diversity any day.
i've been doing pretty well with LT2 and Gates in one, and Kitna/ROY/KJ in another :shrug:
Until San Diego or Detroit have a bad game.
Or Chicago...
:penalty: Berrian was injured and Moose had a decent day still.
:ptts:
 
I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.I'll take diversity any day.
i've been doing pretty well with LT2 and Gates in one, and Kitna/ROY/KJ in another :shrug:
Until San Diego or Detroit have a bad game.
Or Chicago...
:penalty: Berrian was injured and Moose had a decent day still.
:ptts:
I wish more people actually knew what the shirt meant. I was pointing out that Chicago's "bad day" was not a valid criticism of starting Berrian and Moose. Injuries are impossible to predict and Moose still had a decent day.
 
I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.I'll take diversity any day.
i've been doing pretty well with LT2 and Gates in one, and Kitna/ROY/KJ in another :shrug:
Until San Diego or Detroit have a bad game.
Or Chicago...
:penalty: Berrian was injured and Moose had a decent day still.
:ptts:
I wish more people actually knew what the shirt meant. I was pointing out that Chicago's "bad day" was not a valid criticism of starting Berrian and Moose. Injuries are impossible to predict and Moose still had a decent day.
Since posting, Mushy has 10 catches for @ 120 yards and 2 TD's in 5 games.Berrian has amassed @ 180 yds and 1 TD in 5 games.Have at 'em. :thumbup:
 
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
I don't see the point in starting 2 players from the same team. Putting all of your eggs in one basket.I'll take diversity any day.
i've been doing pretty well with LT2 and Gates in one, and Kitna/ROY/KJ in another :shrug:
Until San Diego or Detroit have a bad game.
Or Chicago...
:penalty: Berrian was injured and Moose had a decent day still.
:ptts:
I wish more people actually knew what the shirt meant. I was pointing out that Chicago's "bad day" was not a valid criticism of starting Berrian and Moose. Injuries are impossible to predict and Moose still had a decent day.
Since posting, Mushy has 10 catches for @ 120 yards and 2 TD's in 5 games.Berrian has amassed @ 180 yds and 1 TD in 5 games.Have at 'em. :thumbup:
:popcorn:
 
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
Since posting, Mushy has 10 catches for @ 120 yards and 2 TD's in 5 games.Berrian has amassed @ 180 yds and 1 TD in 5 games.Have at 'em. :thumbup:
Touche` I have not followed these players in particular and thought you were referring to yesterdays game specifically.
 

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