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That is an amazing piece of music right there. Thanks for sharing.
You missed the part where he is now unfortunately deceased .Has tim told his brother he is wrong yet? Or does he still talk to him? I mean, unless tim's bro hangs out here. Then it's the only way he can talk to tim.
The entire band was top notch. Nice find.drummer said:
Sorry this is the first time I have seen this thread.Joe Summer said:Might want to read the thread before making an a$$ of yourself.
You can go on YouTube and find the entire show. I have a DVD rip of it.joey said:That is an amazing piece of music right there. Thanks for sharing.
My brother passed last year.drummer said:Has tim told his brother he is wrong yet? Or does he still talk to him? I mean, unless tim's bro hangs out here. Then it's the only way he can talk to tim.
Sorry to hear that tim, and my condolences.My brother passed last year.
Thanks Drummer.Sorry to hear that tim, and my condolences.
Sorry man, I just tend to scroll past a lot of posts and bump a thread without looking.Thanks Drummer.
And you weren't being a jerk earlier. If I minded being teased about the amount of time I post in here I would have stopped long since.
Anyhow, I learned a lot reading your posts in this thread, very informative.![]()
I know there are some Gadd freaks in this mix so this is for you:
https://youtu.be/xacF8JG-00Y?t=1
ETA: these guys are James Taylor's backing band
But he's the second best drummer in the band.Don't know about being one of the "best" but Taylor Hawkins from the Foo Fighters is an absolute beast on the drums. Saw him live a while back and he had so much energy it was crazy.
No way. Grohl is a good drummer. but Hawkins slays him.But he's the second best drummer in the band.
They both are equally as overrated as well.No way. Grohl is a good drummer. but Hawkins slays him.
And modest too...They both are equally as overrated as well.
Any weekend gigging drummer can play that music in their sleep, then fall asleep while playing that music in their sleep because it's like playing out of the book Janet and Mark. You know, one of the first books to teach kids how to read, at least back in my pre-school days.
DING DING DING DING DINGNot sayin' he's the greatest rock drummer or anything, but since so many other posts have thrown out drummer names for opinions, I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on Bryan Mantia (Brain). One thing I like about him is his creative approach, and I have been intrigued by the fact that he has always embraced technology. As a musician myself, I typically have a pretty traditional approach, but percussion is one aspect that I think technology brings an interesting element to, even if I don't necessarily utilize it in my stuff.
I think I sense a bit of sarcasm since Grohl is like everywhere telling drummers on how to be a successful drummer, just play like him.And modest too...
Not just because the vocals need to be turned up in the mix, but the drums clearly shine on this recording. I've typically enjoyed listening to him every time I've heard him throw down. Seems like a cool guy too. I've listened to some interviews and also listened to him on a drum podcast once. Cool story regarding your roommate. Have you met Bryan?Unfortunately they don't have the footage my roommate shot of the Limbomaniacs on YouTube of this show, but he and I were in the FOH booth drinking lots of free beers, with I helping a bit shooting cam. One of the last great shows at the old I-Beam in San Francisco's Upper Haight district, now gone to ####### yuppie overpriced condos. Jackson Saints ROCKED though. Here is a clip of that show, from my roommates footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTIeBI8GOGg
ETA: ROGER CLINTON PERFORMED WITH BRAIN AND THE LIMBOMANIACS AT THIS SHOW. It was a benefit for the Clinton/Gore ticket
My roommate and I are both sound engineers, and didn't mix this show, but we were at front of house (FOH) right next to the console and the engineer, and the booth was upstairs. This set was just a case of stage volume burying the headroom of the PA lol. The show lineup had like over 15 bands, and the Saints set was later in the show. This is like an FOH guys headache lol. You do soundcheck and get their stage volume set, remind them to keep the guitars at that gain, and then they after sitting around waiting to go onstage, drinking backstage with all the backstage festival peeps, soundcheck goes right out the window.Not just because the vocals need to be turned up in the mix, but the drums clearly shine on this recording. I've typically enjoyed listening to him every time I've heard him throw down. Seems like a cool guy too. I've listened to some interviews and also listened to him on a drum podcast once. Cool story regarding your roommate. Have you met Bryan?
EDM has become a big thing with drummers now, and now that they have all this production gak you can put in a laptop for a DAW or use software like Abelton, drummers are hip to the tech that in the 80's was thought to replace them, which only shows how much cocaine was ingested in the 80's lol.Good stuff, thanks. On one of the drum podcasts I listened to (I do play drums too, but only took them up over the last few years from my basement studio after years of promising myself to learn to play since I've always been fascinated by percussion....my main forte' if you will is guitar of almost 30 years) he mentioned that he's been pretty involved in doing tracks for video games and #### like that. I've always liked that he's had an open mind to technology and incorporating modern and foreign styles to his grooves. As a guitarist, I need to do the same myself, because I have let a lot of the recent technology pass me by a bit.
Major, big time thumbs up to this sentiment.Let me just say this: if you ever thought it was too late to do anything you always wanted to do, you are absolutely missing out on the joy of doing what you always loved or wanted to do. I recently turned 50 years old, and to me that was the mark in time to forget the 50 previous years since they are in the can, and now focus on the moment, which I always had done but now I am 50 and really digging it. I have been to many funerals of people who I went to high school and college with who were around my age and passed on before hitting 50. When I turned 50 - after a nice payday from Google thank you Google - I bought new drum kit since I sold my old one years ago, and although I don't have as much time to practice I make the most out of the time I do. I don't have any desire to play in a band right now, not until I have my stuff together on the drums, so time is not of essence here. I just want to connect back with and surprise myself every once in a while.
If there ever was an appropriate time to call someone a cat, this is the time. Thanks for sharing that.drummer said:On the point of drummers using tech: this drummer is playing tracks off a MacBook Pro, and although these tracks were most likley created in a studio, I assume that the tracks were either built in ProTools, or Logic, or even Abelton. I dunno I am still shopping all those, but if you have at least one small suite of any of the aforementioned software - hell even GarageBand - then yes you are a drummer working within modern production technology. We have no other choice BUT to embrace it because almost all music production is now technology based as far as software, and if drummers do are not able to adapt to it, then hello dinosaur age. Another young cat who can like this cat can is gonna show you what time it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTIe7VayPl4&t=22s
49 - and I'm taking guitar lessons and spanish and german language. While putting together a distillery business. And working. Agree wholeheartedly. Live.Major, big time thumbs up to this sentiment.
I'm not that young, and I think Carey is the best drummer I've ever seen. Just jaw-droppingly good.Younger kids usually go with Danny Carey (Tool)
My friend Fredo Hernandez - one of the original drummers with Queens, and Brant Bjork who I also know and is the archetype of stoner caveman drums - are better than Grohl IMO. Anyone can play Grohl music, even on guitar. Vinnie Colauita may not be on the tip of everyone's tongue but as a musician? He's played with Joni Mitchell to Diane Schurr to Frank Zappa to Megadeath. Just to name very few.I know this is the greatest drummer thread, and I know Grohl isn't in that conversation, but IMO the Grohl bashing is a little over the top in here. He is one of the most successful musicians ever, which included drumming for a famous, impactful band (Nirvana) and some other projects (Them Crooked Vultures, Queens of the Stone Age).
I have buddies of mine who are starting a distillery business at our age as well. Good luck and well wishes.49 - and I'm taking guitar lessons and spanish and german language. While putting together a distillery business. And working. Agree wholeheartedly. Live.
Cobham was a monster circa Tribute to Jack Johnson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Stratus, etc.To me, the best rock drummer ever is Billy Cobham. If it wasn't for him, there is no Neil Peart, Dennis Chambers, Simon Phillips, Carter Beauford, Virgil Donati, Vinnie Colaiuta, jeebus my list will be toooooo long by the time I resolve this point.
When he was at a young super awesome zenith is his career that is full of stages of zenith...
Just watch for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNyYzfkn4yc
Well, I studied with Tony Williams for a few months, and technique wise as far as the hands, his method was very simple in concept - using mostly wrists - but not as easy to execute. His reason why is that he was aware of every stroke he made, and he meant to play that note or figure, and not have little bounce strokes that he didn't mean to execute. Tony Williams was an extraordinary musician. At the age of 19 years old playing with the Miles Davis Quintet, almost every drummer wanted to play like him. He changed everything, even when he had one of the first "fusion" bands with both his Lifetime incarnations. He was and still is my hero. I was very fortunate and grateful to had studied with him. His influence to music and drums is even more prevalent to this day. People are now even more hip to his hand technique. I find YouTube vids everywhere with cats explaining it, and well known drummers using it.Cobbham was a monster circa Tribute to Jack Johnson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Stratus, etc.
What is your estimation of the skill sets of Bill Bruford and the late Tony Williams?
We have some very sad news to report this evening. The Ventura County, Calif., house of veteran session jazz and rock drummer Simon Phillips was burned to the ground last night in the Thomas Fire that has swept through Southern California.
At the time that it happened, Phillips was onstage at the Iridium Jazz Club in New York City with his band Protocol 4. It was the first night of the U.S. leg of their tour, and Phillips has canceled the entire tour as he deals with the fire. A GoFundMe campaign is in the process of bring established.
The Thomas Fire started last night at 6:30PM Pacific and quickly spread via the Santa Ana winds, burning an acre a second and is still considered to be out of control. As of press time it has covered 50,000 acres, roughly 78 square miles, and has destroyed 150 buildings, including an 82-bed mental health facility. According to the Los Angeles Times, 1,000 people are fighting the fire.
"I've never seen a fire burn down so many structures so fast in my (30-year) career," county fire engineer Richard Macklin told CNN.
A mandatory evacuation has forced 27,000 people to leave their homes and Gov. Jerry Brown has declared an emergency for the county.
“This fire is very dangerous and spreading rapidly, but we'll continue to attack it with all we've got,” he said. “It's critical residents stay ready and evacuate immediately if told to do so.”
A native of London, the 60-year-old Phillips has a varied and distinguished career, having played with such acts as the Who, Jeff Beck, Judas Priest and Joe Satriani. He served as the drummer of Toto from 1992, following the death of co-founder Jeff Porcaro, until 2014.
UPDATE: The GoFundMe page referenced above has been set up. In it, Phillips describes plight he and his fiancee, Billie Rainbird, now face. "At this juncture, I do not know what insurance will cover and I fear getting our lives back together will take much more than we can imagine," he wrote. "We are in tremendous shock, going from disbelief to devastation to denial. We are very grateful for all the support and love we are receiving from around the world. We are truly touched and moved. Thank you." They are hoping to raise $200,000, and you can contribute here.