My Dynasty Rookie Rankings (Post-Combine) (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (WR)

Ka'deem Carey (RB)

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

 

[Milkman]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

 

[Eminence]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

 

[Milkman]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

Matthews.

6'3 215 pound wr who runs a 4.4, has great hands, and killed the SEC is being over looked. It's ok you're not the only one.

 

[Eminence]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

Matthews. 6'3 215 pound wr who runs a 4.4, has great hands, and killed the SEC is being over looked. It's ok you're not the only one.

Just looked him up.

He looks decent, comes down with contested catches, fairly spry. Reminds me of Justin Hunter a little.

 

[Faust]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (RB)

Ka'Deem Carey

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

Marqise Lee is listed incorrectly as a RB.

 

[Eminence]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (RB)

Ka'Deem Carey

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

Marqise Lee is listed incorrectly as a RB.

Thanks, overall, how do my rankings compare to yours Faust?

 

[GeeYouknit]

You seem very high on RB's more than WR's why is that? Maybe it's just different compared to what I have but that seems like a lot of RB's in the top 14 for a very average looking group. Also no Ebron?

 

[Eminence]

You seem very high on RB's more than WR's why is that? Maybe it's just different compared to what I have but that seems like a lot of RB's in the top 14 for a very average looking group. Also no Ebron?

RB usually equals instant production. Allen was the only Rookie WR that had a fantasy relevant year. Compared to Lacey, Bell, and Bernard.

There are a few openings:

Atlanta

Carolina

Arizona

Giants

Rams

Broncos

Browns

Jaguars

New England

Jets

Dolphins

Where guys like Jeremy Hill, Tre Mason, Bishop Sankey, etc can come in and threaten the existing RBs for carries.

 

[Eminence]

Not a believer in Ebron from film alone, I could be whiffing but every year there's a new next Jimmy Graham and it's usually not the guy we think it's gonna be.

I'm still waiting for Rob Housler to break out, lol.

 

[Faust]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (WR)

Ka'deem Carey (RB)

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

I typically don't complete my rankings until after the NFL Draft, and I have that luxury as I recently cut back to two leagues that have late rookie drafts.I do give you props for publishing yours and taking in positive & negative feedback.

I think Seastrunk is a little high for my liking, and I would have Lee higher than Odell Beckham Jr.

I am not a fan of Carey or DAT as being on the fringe, as I think Cooks is a much better prospect.

I also think that Carlos Hyde should be on this list somewhere, as he is almost universally considered as being part of that Top 3 or 4 Rookie RB discussion.

 

[Eminence]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (WR)

Ka'deem Carey (RB)

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

I typically don't complete my rankings until after the NFL Draft, and I have that luxury as I recently cut back to two leagues that have late rookie drafts.

I do give you props for publishing yours and taking in positive & negative feedback.

I think Seastrunk is a little high for my liking, and I would have Lee higher than Odell Beckham Jr.

I am not a fan of Carey or DAT as being on the fringe, as I think Cooks is a much better prospect.

I like Cooks but try not to overvalue speed. I do like his moves in open space with the ball in his hands, very shifty.

 

[Eminence]

I'm not a big Hyde guy, reminds me of Blount / Brown (Andre). I don't think he's the kind of guy that a Coach will feel the need to feed the ball.

I think his game will struggle at the NFL level.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Why the drop on Benjamin?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703868&hl=%2Bkelvin+%2Bbenjamin

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I'm not a big Hyde guy, reminds me of Blount / Brown (Andre). I don't think he's the kind of guy that a Coach will feel the need to feed the ball.

I think his game will struggle at the NFL level.

i understand not liking a guy much, but don't you think you have to put some weight in what reputable scouting services think? Hyde is pretty much universally considered a top 3 RB prospect. As much as i personally like/dislike a player i find it difficult to completely ignore other sources and not change my opinion at all.

Let's say Hyde is the #1 RB drafted in the NFL draft, would you change your opinion then?

 

[Eminence]

I'm not a big Hyde guy, reminds me of Blount / Brown (Andre). I don't think he's the kind of guy that a Coach will feel the need to feed the ball.

I think his game will struggle at the NFL level.

i understand not liking a guy much, but don't you think you have to put some weight in what reputable scouting services think? Hyde is pretty much universally considered a top 3 RB prospect. As much as i personally like/dislike a player i find it difficult to completely ignore other sources and not change my opinion at all.

Let's say Hyde is the #1 RB drafted in the NFL draft, would you change your opinion then?

If he lands in Atlanta is is guaranteed 300 carries he'll jump up to my #2 prospect. If he lands in Jacksonville in a timeshare with Gerhart, forget it. He's got legit size.

 

[Eminence]

Why the drop on Benjamin?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703868&hl=%2Bkelvin+%2Bbenjamin

It's going to be his physicality and size that makes his bread in the NFL. I wanted to see a little more from him at the combine. His landing spot will make or break him now. I'm praying he somehow ends up in Green Bay to replace James Jones.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I'm not a big Hyde guy, reminds me of Blount / Brown (Andre). I don't think he's the kind of guy that a Coach will feel the need to feed the ball.

I think his game will struggle at the NFL level.

i understand not liking a guy much, but don't you think you have to put some weight in what reputable scouting services think? Hyde is pretty much universally considered a top 3 RB prospect. As much as i personally like/dislike a player i find it difficult to completely ignore other sources and not change my opinion at all.

Let's say Hyde is the #1 RB drafted in the NFL draft, would you change your opinion then?

If he lands in Atlanta is is guaranteed 300 carries he'll jump up to my #2 prospect. If he lands in Jacksonville in a timeshare with Gerhart, forget it. He's got legit size.

If he has potential to move up to your #2 RB spot (currently your #4 overall player), how can he not even be in your top 14?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

Matthews. 6'3 215 pound wr who runs a 4.4, has great hands, and killed the SEC is being over looked. It's ok you're not the only one.

Just looked him up.He looks decent, comes down with contested catches, fairly spry. Reminds me of Justin Hunter a little.

I don't want to seem like I'm picking on you. But as someone putting out your own rankings here...it's almost the end of March and you're having to look up Matthews? That doesn't inspire confidence. He's not an under-the-radar guy.

 

[Soulfly3]

Em, sticking his neck out there, while you playboys hide behind your keyboards.

Boss.

Gotta say though, Em

WR:

watkins

beckham

moncrief

evans

mathews

RB:

Sankey

Mason

Hyde

Cluster#### mess of other RBs that I cant distinguish between

 

[Eminence]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

Matthews. 6'3 215 pound wr who runs a 4.4, has great hands, and killed the SEC is being over looked. It's ok you're not the only one.

Just looked him up.He looks decent, comes down with contested catches, fairly spry. Reminds me of Justin Hunter a little.

I don't want to seem like I'm picking on you. But as someone putting out your own rankings here...it's almost the end of March and you're having to look up Matthews? That doesn't inspire confidence. He's not an under-the-radar guy.

Eh, all this is theory anyway. When he goes to Indy in the third, I'll take notice. Til' then, he was pretty much in my blind spot.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

You're missing the #1 RB and #2 WR. Other than that it looks great!

Hyde and...?

Matthews. 6'3 215 pound wr who runs a 4.4, has great hands, and killed the SEC is being over looked. It's ok you're not the only one.

Just looked him up.He looks decent, comes down with contested catches, fairly spry. Reminds me of Justin Hunter a little.

I don't want to seem like I'm picking on you. But as someone putting out your own rankings here...it's almost the end of March and you're having to look up Matthews? That doesn't inspire confidence. He's not an under-the-radar guy.

Eh, all this is theory anyway. When he goes to Indy in the third, I'll take notice. Til' then, he was pretty much in my blind spot.

It's good that you admit it rather than pretending he was on your radar all along and you just don't like him much. He's just a REALLY big name not to be familiar with, for someone putting their scouting thoughts out into the spotlight like this.

 

[ghostguy123]

Seems that even though this draft is perceived as strong for fantasy purposes, everyones rankings are completely different. Like, WAYYYY different than normal.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Seems that even though this draft is perceived as strong for fantasy purposes, everyones rankings are completely different. Like, WAYYYY different than normal.

Yeah, so many guys clustered in the same tiers...draft pedigree and landing spot are going to play a HUGE factor this year, more even than usual.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Seems that even though this draft is perceived as strong for fantasy purposes, everyones rankings are completely different. Like, WAYYYY different than normal.

The lack of consensus even post combine is a bit odd.

Then again last year it was all over the board with the top 8 even after the nfl draft.

Probably has to do with the lack of any elite rb talents and even at WR watkins isn't thought of universally as a future FF stud.

This class is confusing to me as well.

 

[ghostguy123]

Seems that even though this draft is perceived as strong for fantasy purposes, everyones rankings are completely different. Like, WAYYYY different than normal.

The lack of consensus even post combine is a bit odd.

Then again last year it was all over the board with the top 8 even after the nfl draft.

Probably has to do with the lack of any elite rb talents and even at WR watkins isn't thought of universally as a future FF stud.

This class is confusing to me as well.

Also weird that last year was viewed as being very weak, and this year very strong, yet it will be pretty difficult for this years group to end up more valuable.

 

[Pimpin Joe]

1. Sammy Watkins

2. Mike Evans

3. Odell Beckham

4. Brandin Cooks

5. Donte Moncrief

6. Jordan Matthews

7. Carlos Hyde

8. Marqise Lee

9. Tre Mason

10. Jeremy Hill

11. Davante Adams

12. Allen Robinson

13. Isaih Crowell

14. Eric Ebron

15. Kelvin Benjamin

16. Lache Seastrunk

17. KaDeem Carey

18. Bishop Sankey

19. Jarvis Landry

20. Davonta Freeman

I love the receivers in this draft. I also love owning picks in the 7-12 range as some RBs that I'm not very high on will be off the board and a couple of the guys I really want, Beckham, Cooks, Moncrief and Matthews are going to be available in that range.

 

[Eminence]

I think Dri Archer is under the radar, I like that guy too.

 

[northern exposure]

I think Dri Archer is under the radar, I like that guy too.

Didn't you threaten to sue FBG? How can you still post on here?

 

[Milkman]

Tier one
1. Evans- Stud #1 WR rare size/speed/hands combo. Red zone nightmare.
2. Matthews- prototypical WR1 size and speed. Great hands/route runner. Killed SEC.
3. Watkins- Explosive/great hands/sudden. Most people's #1wr. He's most likely not going to be anything more than an average red zone target.

Tier two
4. Hyde- Punishing runner. YAC confirm this. He catches the ball well. Pass protection is good. He's a 240 pound jitter bug. 3 down back.
5. Lee- combine was disappointing but I'm trying not to downgrade him to much because he jumps off the tape to me. Looks like Reggie Wayne.

Tier three
6. Sankey- I had Sankey high on my list before and got talked out of it. I think he plays with such good balance that what he's doing doesn't wow anybody but it should. Pretty sick combine. Put the tape in and he shows he doesn't need a lot of room in between the tackles to break runs.
7. Beckham- love his weight and explosiveness. He can disappear in games but he has some Percy Harvin in him.
8. Ebron- Is he an above average red zone target? He's a 6 td/yr guy to me so limited ceiling. Still jump on him if i needed a te.
9. Hill- Big back with great hands and good burst. Above average change of direction at the second level.
10. Allen Robinson- great size/short area quickness. Elite open field vision. Can he ever use it in the nfl? Good shot at being an above average red zone target.
11. Cooks- I love everything about this guy but I hate small wr. He can do it all though except......dominate in the red zone. Good chance he's a below average red zone target his entire career.
12. Seastrunk- boom or bust. He has some wow plays in college but questions about his vision scare me.

A couple notes.
Benjamin sucks. He's should have dominated at his age in college. He's going to be a 24 year old project in the nfl. Yuk.

Cooks could move way up this board if he gets drafted by a team with an accurate QB. Like all the way up into the top tier.

I don't know where to put Moncrief. Hate that he really didn't demand the ball in college. Love his size and speed at the combine.

Several guys could jump into the top 12 depending where they land. Freeman, Crowell, Adams, Williams. ......

 

[One More Rep]

Tier one

1. Evans- Stud #1 WR rare size/speed/hands combo. Red zone nightmare.

2. Matthews- prototypical WR1 size and speed. Great hands/route runner. Killed SEC.

3. Watkins- Explosive/great hands/sudden. Most people's #1wr. He's most likely not going to be anything more than an average red zone target.

Tier two

4. Hyde- Punishing runner. YAC confirm this. He catches the ball well. Pass protection is good. He's a 240 pound jitter bug. 3 down back.

5. Lee- combine was disappointing but I'm trying not to downgrade him to much because he jumps off the tape to me. Looks like Reggie Wayne.

Tier three

6. Sankey- I had Sankey high on my list before and got talked out of it. I think he plays with such good balance that what he's doing doesn't wow anybody but it should. Pretty sick combine. Put the tape in and he shows he doesn't need a lot of room in between the tackles to break runs.

7. Beckham- love his weight and explosiveness. He can disappear in games but he has some Percy Harvin in him.

8. Ebron- Is he an above average red zone target? He's a 6 td/yr guy to me so limited ceiling. Still jump on him if i needed a te.

9. Hill- Big back with great hands and good burst. Above average change of direction at the second level.

10. Allen Robinson- great size/short area quickness. Elite open field vision. Can he ever use it in the nfl? Good shot at being an above average red zone target.

11. Cook- I love everything about this guy but I hate small wr. He can do it all though except......dominate in the red zone. Good chance he's a below average red zone target his entire career.

12. Seastrunk- boom or bust. He has some wow plays in college but questions about his vision scare me.

A couple notes.

Benjamin sucks. He's should have dominated at his age in college. He's going to be a 24 year old project in the nfl. Yuk.

Cooks could move way up this board if he gets drafted by a team with an accurate QB. Like all the way up into the top tier.

I don't know where to put Moncrief. Hate that he really didn't demand the ball in college. Love his size and speed at the combine.

Several guys could jump into the top 12 depending where they land. Freeman, Crowell, Adams, Williams. ......

Pretty close to where I am right now. I would add Lee to tier 1, add Cooks to tier 2, add Moncrief and Adams to tier 3 and swap Hyde and Sankey.

 

[TheBottomLine]

WR

First Tier

1. Watkins

Second Tier

2. Evans

3. Cooks

4. Lee

5. Beckham Jr.

6. Matthews

Third Tier

7. Adams

8. Robinson

9. Landry

10. Benjamin

11. Moncrief

12. Richardson

13. Bryant

 

[dehaven123]

Tier one

1. Evans- Stud #1 WR rare size/speed/hands combo. Red zone nightmare.

2. Matthews- prototypical WR1 size and speed. Great hands/route runner. Killed SEC.

3. Watkins- Explosive/great hands/sudden. Most people's #1wr. He's most likely not going to be anything more than an average red zone target.

Tier two

4. Hyde- Punishing runner. YAC confirm this. He catches the ball well. Pass protection is good. He's a 240 pound jitter bug. 3 down back.

5. Lee- combine was disappointing but I'm trying not to downgrade him to much because he jumps off the tape to me. Looks like Reggie Wayne.

Tier three

6. Sankey- I had Sankey high on my list before and got talked out of it. I think he plays with such good balance that what he's doing doesn't wow anybody but it should. Pretty sick combine. Put the tape in and he shows he doesn't need a lot of room in between the tackles to break runs.

7. Beckham- love his weight and explosiveness. He can disappear in games but he has some Percy Harvin in him.

8. Ebron- Is he an above average red zone target? He's a 6 td/yr guy to me so limited ceiling. Still jump on him if i needed a te.

9. Hill- Big back with great hands and good burst. Above average change of direction at the second level.

10. Allen Robinson- great size/short area quickness. Elite open field vision. Can he ever use it in the nfl? Good shot at being an above average red zone target.

11. Cook- I love everything about this guy but I hate small wr. He can do it all though except......dominate in the red zone. Good chance he's a below average red zone target his entire career.

12. Seastrunk- boom or bust. He has some wow plays in college but questions about his vision scare me.

A couple notes.

Benjamin sucks. He's should have dominated at his age in college. He's going to be a 24 year old project in the nfl. Yuk.

Cooks could move way up this board if he gets drafted by a team with an accurate QB. Like all the way up into the top tier.

I don't know where to put Moncrief. Hate that he really didn't demand the ball in college. Love his size and speed at the combine.

Several guys could jump into the top 12 depending where they land. Freeman, Crowell, Adams, Williams. ......

i appreciated seeing your posted thoughts here, MM.

this is pretty much in line with my current take, though i still have lots of tape to watch on hyde and matthews.

is it wrong to think that evans is the #1 WR in non-ppr? i think not.

 

[Biabreakable]

This is how I think the prospects stack up right now-

WR Sammy Watkins
WR Mike Evans

RB Bishop Sankey
WR Marqise Lee
RB Carlos Hyde

WR Odell Beckham Jr.
WR Brandin Cooks
RB Lache Seastrunk
TE Eric Ebron

WR Jordan Matthews
WR Kelvin Benjamin
QB Teddy Bridgewater
QB Blake Bortles
RB Charles Sims
RB Isaiah Crowell
TE Jace Amaro
QB Johnny Manziel

WR Donte Moncrief
WR Jarvis Landry
WR Allen Robinson
RB Devonta Freeman
RB Tre Mason
RB Andre Williams
WR Allen Robinson
QB Derek Carr
RB Terrance West
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
QB Brett Smith

WR Davonte Adams
RB Jeremy Hill
RB Jerick McKinnon
RB Marion Grice
RB DeAnthony Thomas
WR Martavis Bryant
TE Colt Lyerla
WR Paul Richardson

QB Jimmy Garoppolo
QB Zach Metternberger
RB KaDeem Carey
RB Rajion Neal
QB David Fales
QB Tajh Boyd
QB Logan Thomas
RB Storm Johnson

 

[Eminence]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (WR)

Ka'deem Carey (RB)

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

Interesting to look back on. If I knew Seastrunk was a weirdo with long fingernails, I wouldn't have had him listed as #4. Lol, just kidding. In retrospect, this looks to be a very deep WR class.

 

[FUBAR]

Here's a link to my Pre-Combine rankings:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=703873&hl

1.) Sammy Watkins (WR)

2.) Jeremy Hill (RB)

3.) Mike Evans (WR)

4.) Lache Seastrunk (RB)

5.) Tre Mason (RB)

6.) Odell Beckham Jr. (WR)

7.) Andre Williams (RB)

8.) Kelvin Benjamin (WR)

9.) Bishop Sankey (RB)

10.) Marqise Lee (WR)

Ka'deem Carey (RB)

De'Anthony Thomas (WR / RB)

Davante Adams (WR)

Jarvis Landry (WR)

On the fringe...

Interesting to look back on. If I knew Seastrunk was a weirdo with long fingernails, I wouldn't have had him listed as #4. Lol, just kidding. In retrospect, this looks to be a very deep WR class.

Aside from the whiff on Lache, that's damn impressive scouting work. Of course you underrated OBJ, but so did almost everybody.

And yes, it looks like an insanely gifted WR class. Can't help but wonder if the new rules help the young receivers, but they should also help the veterans.

 

[Donnybrook]

1. Sammy Watkins

2. Mike Evans

3. Odell Beckham

4. Brandin Cooks

5. Donte Moncrief

6. Jordan Matthews

7. Carlos Hyde

8. Marqise Lee

9. Tre Mason

10. Jeremy Hill

11. Davante Adams

12. Allen Robinson

13. Isaih Crowell

14. Eric Ebron

15. Kelvin Benjamin

16. Lache Seastrunk

17. KaDeem Carey

18. Bishop Sankey

19. Jarvis Landry

20. Davonta Freeman

I love the receivers in this draft. I also love owning picks in the 7-12 range as some RBs that I'm not very high on will be off the board and a couple of the guys I really want, Beckham, Cooks, Moncrief and Matthews are going to be available in that range.

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