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Even a little bit of commentary is better than none. It could potentially be a good mock, but because I am forced to deduce your logic from what you have posted, I have no definitive idea what you were thinking. Certainly I can make my own conjecture, but that doesn't make it right.So, rather than being able to critique your draft and engage in debate, all I can do is pose questions and try to answer them myself.
But, here goes:
1. For the first overall pick, you have to ask yourself one question: Will Mangini and Co. be more likely to sacrifice two or three solid draft prospects for one blue-chip player (which they could arguably get one at No.4) or trade down and grab more solid draft prospects? Personally, despite what I posted in my latest little shakedown, I am leaning toward the latter. But I do agree Abraham would be an excellent pair with Travis Johnson in Houston's new 43.
i always try to make trades as realistic as possible and this is what it would take for the JETS to move up, just my opinion
2. Say Houston trades to No.4. What happens when Bush, Leinart and D'Brick go 1, 2, 3? What is Houston going to do with that No.4 pick? Take Mario Williams? Did they really trade down to No.4 to draft a DE?
i'm sure HOU would hate that senerio the fans would want YOUNG but, he is at least 2 years away from playing in the NFL and they signed CARR for 3 more years
3. I can pretty much go just short of outright guaranteeing you that Vince Young will never play in New Orleans. I, myself, predicted this at one point, but that was being ignorant of the fact that HC Sean Payton has classically been a pocket-passing QB Coach. Vince Young really doesn't fit the mold of QB he wants. Cutler and Leinart fit that mold.
this pick is strickly to put butts, in the seats, you are probably right about PAYTON wanting a drop back passer but, does he have final say? i think the rebuilding of NEW ORLEANS (the city not the team) starts with this pick if the above trade would go down
4. I think this is the first mock I've read with Vernon Davis going to Buffalo. I can't say I disagree with it, simply becuase I haven't explored this option yet. However, I'd like to understand your logic in why the Bills would pass on Winston Justice. Now that they've released Mike Williams, there is certainly a HUGE need at OT. You can argue that they benched him, but that doesn't change the fact that they have lost a blue-chip talent at Tackle, and have replaced him with marginal talent at best. The Bills are a prime example of why you can't win, despite all of the skill players in the world, without a good offensive line. The Texans are finding this out, and I believe the Bills have already known this and will make it a point to address it in the draft. I believed they would before the release of Mike Williams, but his departure seems to me to make it all the more certain. Please explain why the Bills would pass over Justice.
the QB'S best friend can be the dump off pass but, there current offense does not have a player that fits that mold, so why not take V.DAVIS to help LOSMAN...besides i don't feel there is an OT worth the #8 spot, if they want W.JUSTICE they can trade down to 11-12 area, imo he is a reach at #8
5. Detroit's selection of Chad Greenway at No.9 is also divergent from every other mock I've read. The Lions already have their young starters in Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman at OLB. Drafting a prolific cover-all blitzkrieger like Greenway and sticking him at MLB or forcing over two perfectly fit incumbents makes no sense at all. Please defend your selection. There is a much more clear need at safety, and, IMO on the defensive line at DE. I think a Tamba Hali would go much better here because the Tampa-2 that will be installed in Detroit relies on speedy, undersized defensive linemen making plays up front to free up the linebackers and safeties and take pressure off of the cornerbacks. Drafting a Linebacker who would debatably upgrade the strongest position on defense is silly to me.
granted this one was not well thought out, i was trying not to give them CUTLER like every other mock i've read
6. Please justify why Miami, where HC Nick Saban explicitly has iterated his distate for trading up for any player, and is much more inclined to stay put in the draft, would trade UP to grab Jay Cutler. Not only trade up for him, but leapfrog three teams that will not be taking a QB in the first place. For that matter, after Arizona at 10, the next team that would even have Cutler on their list is Dallas at 18, and being that this is Parcells' last year, Jerry Jones isn't going to give him a rookie QB to help him win a championship. So there is no threat to Miami's insurance of Jay Cutler at 16 to warrant a trade.
i thought BAL at #13 would be interested in CUTLER so i had MIA trade over them
7. LenDale White to Philadelphia is a very interesting pick. While I can't say whether I'd agree or disagree to his ability to mesh with Brian Westbrook (I think they'd make a hell of a one-two punch), passing on Winston Justice here would be incredible. The Eagles need to replace Jon Runyan, and Tra Thomas is slowing down, and likely won't be an Eagle past 2006. While they have some young guys they've drafted, they are all Day 2 players and at most, one of them is likely to develop into an adequate starter. The Eagles need a pro-bowl caliber tackle to replace the talent they've had there, because they can't afford to risk further injury to McNabb / Westbrook. (At that, I don't think Philadelphia will stay in this spot on draft day anyway, but that's not relevant here).
OT is without a doubt an area of need but, i think this draft has OT talent into the 3rd round, or free agents, i just think the 1-2 punch as you put it is too good to pass up
8. Minnesota's selection of Mathias Kiwanuka is downright silly. They've got Kenechi Udeze, Erasmus James and Kevin Williams (who has since moved to DT). They spent three consecutive first-round picks on DEs. There's a 0% chance they spend a 4th. They are absolutely loaded.
ok i did not have a roster in front of me and i'm not familar with MIN team, so you are correct here but, is how you learn from your mocks constructive critism thank you
9. San Diego's selection of Gabe Watson also is a foolish pick. NT Jamal Williams just made the pro bowl, and he's in the prime of his career. You don't spend the 19th overall pick on a non-critical positional player who will ride the pine for at least four years.
i'll give you this one also, my thought was if SD is going to win there division they need to stop LJ that whole division does and i had DEN taking a DT also but, you are right about J.WILLIAMS
10. I don't believe Jean-Gilles is a good fit at all in Carolina. I could be wrong, but that is just my personal opinion.
i think they go OT/OG he was the best of the rest IMO
Overall, this mock really needs some analysis to explain some of the less conventional picks. Not bad for a first try, and I'm glad it's at least somewhat different.
Please make a better effort to research your picks rather than just placing certain players in certain places because it seems like a superficially neat fit (Kiwanuka to Minnesota, e.g.)
Hope this helps in your quest for the perfect mock
Can you perhaps validate this beyond any pure speculation? Because it does make a lot of sense.
