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My recent experience driving near the Pocono 400 Raceway (1 Viewer)

datonn

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Half getting this (novel) off my chest, half seeing if anybody out there would have succumbed to road rage (100-times worse than I did).

The back-story: My oldest daughter is "blossoming into womanhood," and is scared, grumpy, cramping, et al while having her first menstrual cycle. On top of it all, it was happening in the midst of ~1,650 miles in our van, road-tripping across the Eastern US to give them an epic end-of-summer experience that will stay in their memories forever.

The experience: My daughter needed a restroom, ASAP, as her "item" helping contain the messiness wasn't containing it. So I told her I'd take the first exit that had a gas station, so she and my wife could rectify the situation. I see one of those blue service signs with a gas station, so we take the exit. Before getting to the ramp, we saw a sign to the effect of "thru traffic left lane, race traffic right lane." Didn't know what that meant, but fine...we needed to go right to get to the gas station anyway.

I get to the top of the ramp to turn right, give a quick look both ways, and proceed to turn right. There were orange cones separating the two lanes, but that wasn't unusual (could be construction or ???). I turn right (South), and immediately am honked at by a guy in the LEFT (North-bound) lane who passes me from behind on the left across a double-yellow line...doing about 50 in a 35 MPH while heading South, right past two cops. I think "WTF?" and am a little overly-cautious when I pull in for gas. As I'm filling up (while my wife and daughter are making my daughter's day a little brighter), I notice that there are a few other cars driving South in the North-bound lane of traffic toward us. There's no signs posted...only two police cars sitting at the top of the ramp where I had turned. But the gas station parking lot was full of NASCAR fans, memorabilia, et al. Then it hit me: the locals have closed North-bound traffic in order to move more people to the Raceway more quickly. So instead of being able to go the ~300 yards back to I-80, I need to go right. Toward the Raceway. To parts unknown.

I'm frustrated. I'm sitting there, watching car after car whiz by me (in the wrong lane) doing 15-20 MPH over the limit, with my daughter still sobbing in the back seat. So when I finally see an opening, I floor it. Tires squealed a bit in my effort to speed up ASAP to go from 0 to ~40 MPH to not have oncoming traffic in my trunk doing 55-60 MPH. As the tires are squealing, about 3-4 NASCAR hillbillies yell at me and my wife. As if 90% of them don't squeal their tires on-purpose at stop lights every week in Deliverance country...probably with custom exhaust pipes, no mufflers, and custom "smokers" to thumb their noses at those hippie communist tree-hugging Obama-lovers. :P Anyway, I make my way through the race traffic to the first road that turns to the West, spot a cop, pull over and ask "how do I get back on I-80?" He was nice, and told me about an alternate route. But it took us about ten MILES to get back on I-80.

I was frustrated. Frustrated with prolonging my daughter's suffering/discomfort. But mostly frustrated with the lack of warning locals (and local authorities) gave for what would be encountered when one exited on that particular off-ramp. Is that even legal? :shrug: Closing an entire direction of road with absolutely no signage or postings notifying drivers accordingly? If I had intended to turn left instead of right at the top of that off-ramp, I could have VERY easily been involved in a pretty nasty accident. All for obeying all posted signage/laws, while this town/area obviously does this the few times/year they host major events.

 
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I actually had the same thing happent to me driving thru Indiana late at night one time. There was construction on an overpass, and they had all traffic going one way with no signage facing the off ramp. I turn the wrong way towards a gas station, that actually had closed early due to the construction. I realized what had happened and go to pull back onto the road and a cop comes and lectures me on what was going on. I was pissed, but nice enough to him. Turns out that they were just doing the construction at night, and it was local traffic only in the direction I had turned.

Turning back onto the road towards the interstate, now going the correct direction, I stop at a red light right before the bridge. I'm right of the double yellow lines and to the left of a solid white line, and there is a large construction truck to my right sitting there with no lights on. The cop turns his lights on behind me again, and comes to my window screaming and cussing. I finally realize that he's pointing and telling me I need to get behind "him". I then realize that he's talking about the construction truck sitting there with no lights whatsoever on. I tried to tell him that to me, it looks like a parked vehicle with no one in it, at which point I end up handcuffed and in the back of the police car. My wife is going nuts, and at this point, I'm screaming and cussing back at the cop. After about 10 minutes in the police car, he runs my plates and realize that I don't have anything withstanding on my driving record. He decides to, "let me off this time". I later called to complain about the guy, but never heard anything back.

 
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Listen I have two daughters--the oldest 15 and these years are "challenging" to put it mildly, but what do you want? Local events happen all over this country.

This weekend (and 6 other weekends or so like it) between Denver and Colorado Springs, the Renaissance Festival happens. Think D&D festival. This basically turns I-25 into a parking lot every summer. It took me forever to do a 45 minute run this weekend.

You were upset because your daughter was a mess--I get it. But on road trips stuff happens and categorizing people that watch NASCAR as a certain way is stupid.

 
Listen I have two daughters--the oldest 15 and these years are "challenging" to put it mildly, but what do you want? Local events happen all over this country.

This weekend (and 6 other weekends or so like it) between Denver and Colorado Springs, the Renaissance Festival happens. Think D&D festival. This basically turns I-25 into a parking lot every summer. It took me forever to do a 45 minute run this weekend.

You were upset because your daughter was a mess--I get it. But on road trips stuff happens and categorizing people that watch NASCAR as a certain way is stupid.
I believe that he was upset that there wasn't proper signage, and as a result his family cold have been in grave danger.

 
Listen I have two daughters--the oldest 15 and these years are "challenging" to put it mildly, but what do you want? Local events happen all over this country.

This weekend (and 6 other weekends or so like it) between Denver and Colorado Springs, the Renaissance Festival happens. Think D&D festival. This basically turns I-25 into a parking lot every summer. It took me forever to do a 45 minute run this weekend.

You were upset because your daughter was a mess--I get it. But on road trips stuff happens and categorizing people that watch NASCAR as a certain way is stupid.
I believe that he was upset that there wasn't proper signage, and as a result his family cold have been in grave danger.
^ This. If I had turned left at the top of the ramp, with no signs/barriers/_________ preventing me from doing so, I could have turned directly into on-coming traffic driving over the speed limit, heading South in the North-bound lane. Then it's not being annoyed at a ten-mile detour and getting yelled at by folks who think burning rubber/petroleum is a "sport." It's stranded in the middle of Pennsylvania with injuries to my family and/or myself, and no way to make it on-time to commitments we had in Boston.

As to NASCAR fans knowing more about beer than our own solar system and living in 'Murica, I'm open to being dissuaded from preaching said opinion. Years of experience around folks has formed a pretty firm opinion based upon first-hand observation, however. :fishing:

 
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it was happening in the midst of ~1,650 miles in our van, road-tripping across the Eastern US to give them an epic end-of-summer experience that will stay in their memories forever.
My friend, I hate to tell you, but you signed up for this.

But look it at this way, you and your family will probably remember this little detour for years to come, it will probably be part of the family lore, especially as your kids and wife retell how you were freaking out while driving through heathen PA.

 
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it was happening in the midst of ~1,650 miles in our van, road-tripping across the Eastern US to give them an epic end-of-summer experience that will stay in their memories forever.
My friend, I hate to tell you, but you signed up for this.

But look it at this way, you and your family will probably remember this little detour for years to come, it will probably be part of the family lore, especially as your kids and wife retell how you were freaking out while driving through heathen PA.
Yeah, I know. It's been an awesome trip, other than that one experience. I just can't stand stupid stuff like that. Stupid, (local) government-sanctioned stuff like that. Police didn't care at all about the people whipping by at 10-15+ MPH over the speed limit. But if I had turned left at the top of that ramp? Shoot..I might still be sitting in a cell. Or a hospital room.

 
Pretty much standard operating procedure in and around any Nascar race, designed to move traffic in and out quicker and more efficiently.

Sucks that you got involved in it..

BTW, I'm not feeling any sympathy for your problems.. I have 4 daughters, 3 of which have "feminine issues"... suck it up buttercup.

 
What if the left lane would have forced you to turn right into the 'left lane' ie the Northbound lane. I'm struggling to understand how you would have been allowed to actually turn North.

 
I've been to that race a couple of times. And if you couldn't understand the signs and cones, maybe you should stop calling all of the redneck NASCAR fans that can understand them, "stupid rednecks".

 
I've been to that race a couple of times. And if you couldn't understand the signs and cones, maybe you should stop calling all of the redneck NASCAR fans that can understand them, "stupid rednecks".
:goodposting:

There were signs and cones up, you said so yourself. Plus, I'm sure there were plenty more that you missed. Drunk redneck hillbillies apparently can read and follow traffic signs better than "hippie communist tree-hugging Obama-lovers".

 
I've been to that race a couple of times. And if you couldn't understand the signs and cones, maybe you should stop calling all of the redneck NASCAR fans that can understand them, "stupid rednecks".
I think he needed a sign that said, No dumb####, You Don't Want to Go Here!"

 
I've been to that race a couple of times. And if you couldn't understand the signs and cones, maybe you should stop calling all of the redneck NASCAR fans that can understand them, "stupid rednecks".
Can I call 'em "gun totin', freedom-lovin', Let the Eagles Soar singin' [in the genre of new country] patriots" instead?! Just trying to understand my boundaries here. :P

I figured it out after seeing multiple cars driving South-bound in the North-bound lane of traffic...right past two police officers who didn't seem to care. But I can tell you right now...not a single sign that warned folks that they would not be able to travel North-bound on that road. Not a single "one-way traffic" sign posted. And if those traffic cones every few dozen yards is Pennsylvanian or NASCAR for "one-way traffic...I know this road goes in both directions, but not while these cones are out sunning themselves on the asphalt," then I apologize for not speaking Dutch-English as I was whipping my horse.

 
Listen I have two daughters--the oldest 15 and these years are "challenging" to put it mildly, but what do you want? Local events happen all over this country.

This weekend (and 6 other weekends or so like it) between Denver and Colorado Springs, the Renaissance Festival happens. Think D&D festival. This basically turns I-25 into a parking lot every summer. It took me forever to do a 45 minute run this weekend.

You were upset because your daughter was a mess--I get it. But on road trips stuff happens and categorizing people that watch NASCAR as a certain way is stupid.
I believe that he was upset that there wasn't proper signage, and as a result his family cold have been in grave danger.
^ This. If I had turned left at the top of the ramp, with no signs/barriers/_________ preventing me from doing so, I could have turned directly into on-coming traffic driving over the speed limit, heading South in the North-bound lane. Then it's not being annoyed at a ten-mile detour and getting yelled at by folks who think burning rubber/petroleum is a "sport." It's stranded in the middle of Pennsylvania with injuries to my family and/or myself, and no way to make it on-time to commitments we had in Boston.As to NASCAR fans knowing more about beer than our own solar system and living in 'Murica, I'm open to being dissuaded from preaching said opinion. Years of experience around folks has formed a pretty firm opinion based upon first-hand observation, however. :fishing:
Injuries?

 
I've been to that race a couple of times. And if you couldn't understand the signs and cones, maybe you should stop calling all of the redneck NASCAR fans that can understand them, "stupid rednecks".
Can I call 'em "gun totin', freedom-lovin', Let the Eagles Soar singin' [in the genre of new country] patriots" instead?! Just trying to understand my boundaries here. :P

I figured it out after seeing multiple cars driving South-bound in the North-bound lane of traffic...right past two police officers who didn't seem to care. But I can tell you right now...not a single sign that warned folks that they would not be able to travel North-bound on that road. Not a single "one-way traffic" sign posted. And if those traffic cones every few dozen yards is Pennsylvanian or NASCAR for "one-way traffic...I know this road goes in both directions, but not while these cones are out sunning themselves on the asphalt," then I apologize for not speaking Dutch-English as I was whipping my horse.
Again. You're the only one who couldn't figure it out. Do you really think 90,000 people are wrong while you are right? :confused:

 
Why is your daughters period relevant to the story? But hey, thanks for sharing a story about her over flowing!

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