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My running back cheatsheet from here until end-of-season (1 Viewer)

JuniorNB

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1. Adrian Peterson

2. Chris Johnson

3. Maurice Jones- Drew

4. Frank Gore

5. Michael Turner

6. Brandon Jacobs

7. Matt Forte

8. Brandon Jacobs

9. Steven Jackson

10. Steve Slaton

11. Cedric Benson

12. Ronnie Brown

13. Pierre Thomas

14. Rashard Mendenhall

15. Ray Rice

16. Deangelo Williams

17. Ryan Grant

18. Fred Jackson

19. Kevin Smith

20. Marion Barber

NOTES: My list represents a few feelings I have going forward- Gore's injury won't mean more than one missed game, Mendenhall maintains the starting job in Pittsburgh, Dallas continues to use two or three backs, and Marshawn Lynch cuts way into F. Jackson's workload.

Other caveats: If Rice assumes the starting job due to a McGahee injury or demotion, I would move him up into the Jacobs/Forte area. If either Westbrook or McCoy become a full-time starter (which I don't believe either will), I would put that player in thew Slaton/Benson area.

Would love to hear comments and/or see your cheatsheets.

 
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I'd flip MJD and CJ

I'd flip Pierre to 11 personally, offense is too powerful

I'd flip Mendy and Rice as well and drop him a few

 
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I know it's just opinion, but that is a really just a horrible list. I assume you just ranked guys on your FF teams at the top?

 
1. Adrian Peterson 2. Chris Johnson3. Maurice Jones- Drew4. Frank Gore 5. Michael Turner6. Brandon Jacobs7. Matt Forte8. Brandon Jacobs9. Steven Jackson10. Steve Slaton11. Cedric Benson12. Ronnie Brown13. Pierre Thomas14. Rashard Mendenhall 15. Ray Rice16. Deangelo Williams17. Ryan Grant18. Fred Jackson19. Kevin Smith20. Marion BarberNOTES: My list represents a few feelings I have going forward- Gore's injury won't mean more than one missed game, Mendenhall maintains the starting job in Pittsburgh, Dallas continues to use two or three backs, and Marshawn Lynch cuts way into F. Jackson's workload.Other caveats: If Rice assumes the starting job due to a McGahee injury or demotion, I would move him up into the Jacobs/Forte area. If either Westbrook or McCoy become a full-time starter (which I don't believe either will), I would put that player in thew Slaton/Benson area.Would love to hear comments and/or see your cheatsheets.
Interesting post. To be honest, I'd have the 3 guys you have ranked 11-13 probably ranked about 6th-8th. I'd have Cedric Benson at least 5 spots higher, but I've already went into why i am so high on him. I'd also have Ronnie Brown and Pierre Thomas about 5 spots higher. Ronnie Brown because he is getting a ton of carries and his offense, even without pennington, looks better than SJax's. Plus, it is way more run oriented than you are seeing in Houston, Chicago, and NY (Jacobs on their twice?). I'd have Pierre Thomas higher too because that New Orleans offense is just so darn good.Two other things I'd probably do are move MBIII up about 5 spots because he is a TD machine and I'd probably also move Chris Johnson down about 5 spots because he needs to break long runs to score when there are other guys in the top 5 (MJD, Gore) who while being able to break long runs, also score a bunch of other TDs because they get the goalline touches as well.
 
You would rather have Fred Jackson over LT? Whaaa?
Absolutley. I was actually going to roll the dice on LT very early in the draft but another owner took him right before me. Thank God. He hasn't imnpressed me at all. He's going to get even older as the season progresses.
 
Uh... Knowshon Moreno?Also, you're clearly a Mendenhall owner.
Not unless Buckhalter goes down. They share too much of the workload. Plus they begin playing some good defenses soon.And, yes. I am. As I stated, that ranking reflects my feeling (or hopes) that he has permanently supplanted FWP.
 
You would rather have Fred Jackson over LT? Whaaa?
Absolutley. I was actually going to roll the dice on LT very early in the draft but another owner took him right before me. Thank God. He hasn't imnpressed me at all. He's going to get even older as the season progresses.
When exactly was he supposed to impress you? He has 20 carries on the season.And Fred Jackson is already starting to lose his job - whether he actually should or not is another matter altogether. But Lynch is going to get more carries than him. Personally, I don't see how there's any way you can have Jackson on that list.
 
You are fast on Mendenhall ....

He played well for the first time in two years and he is ahead of McGahee , K Smith .

Slaton has nothing to do there , my guess is there will be a new starter in Houston by week 8 and he is nt on the team yet .

 
bengalbuck said:
JuniorNB said:
1. Adrian Peterson

2. Chris Johnson

3. Maurice Jones- Drew

4. Frank Gore

5. Michael Turner

6. Brandon Jacobs

7. Matt Forte

8. Brandon Jacobs

9. Steven Jackson

10. Steve Slaton

11. Cedric Benson

12. Ronnie Brown

13. Pierre Thomas

14. Rashard Mendenhall

15. Ray Rice

16. Deangelo Williams

17. Ryan Grant

18. Fred Jackson

19. Kevin Smith

20. Marion Barber

NOTES: My list represents a few feelings I have going forward- Gore's injury won't mean more than one missed game, Mendenhall maintains the starting job in Pittsburgh, Dallas continues to use two or three backs, and Marshawn Lynch cuts way into F. Jackson's workload.

Other caveats: If Rice assumes the starting job due to a McGahee injury or demotion, I would move him up into the Jacobs/Forte area. If either Westbrook or McCoy become a full-time starter (which I don't believe either will), I would put that player in thew Slaton/Benson area.

Would love to hear comments and/or see your cheatsheets.
Interesting post. To be honest, I'd have the 3 guys you have ranked 11-13 probably ranked about 6th-8th. I'd have Cedric Benson at least 5 spots higher, but I've already went into why i am so high on him. I'd also have Ronnie Brown and Pierre Thomas about 5 spots higher. Ronnie Brown because he is getting a ton of carries and his offense, even without pennington, looks better than SJax's. Plus, it is way more run oriented than you are seeing in Houston, Chicago, and NY (Jacobs on their twice?). I'd have Pierre Thomas higher too because that New Orleans offense is just so darn good.Two other things I'd probably do are move MBIII up about 5 spots because he is a TD machine and I'd probably also move Chris Johnson down about 5 spots because he needs to break long runs to score when there are other guys in the top 5 (MJD, Gore) who while being able to break long runs, also score a bunch of other TDs because they get the goalline touches as well.
since the titans have so rarely been in the red zone this year i don't think this has been established yet. i'd drop him down just based on the fact that they seem to suck and therefore he won't get as many carries and other than 1 game, he's basically an afterthought in the passing game at least when they are way behind.
 
JuniorNB said:
tonka said:
Uh... Knowshon Moreno?Also, you're clearly a Mendenhall owner.
Not unless Buckhalter goes down. They share too much of the workload. Plus they begin playing some good defenses soon.And, yes. I am. As I stated, that ranking reflects my feeling (or hopes) that he has permanently supplanted FWP.
Sorry bro, but that makes no sense. You omit Moreno but include Fred Jackson?I like CJ, got him myself, but I couldn't put him that high personally. He's got to score from way out, and that team is imploding right now. Maybe around 5, still very high cause he is lethal with the ball in his hands, but no higher.
 
Traders2001 said:
You are fast on Mendenhall ....He played well for the first time in two years and he is ahead of McGahee , K Smith .Slaton has nothing to do there , my guess is there will be a new starter in Houston by week 8 and he is nt on the team yet .
I happen to own McGahee and I think he has 7 TDs and will be lucky to finish with more than 10.Totally disagree about Slaton. Yesterday was a return to last year's form. He's just going to get better.Wew'll see about Mendenhall. It's just my opinion and as I said, he's on my team.
 
Starting RBs for the Saints so far this year:

week 1 Mike Bell: 28/143

week 2 Mike Bell: 17/86/1 1 reception 9 yards

week 3 (1/2 game due to illness) Pierre Thomas: 14/126/2

week 4 Pierre Thomas: 19/86/1 4/46

In leagues where 1 pt = 10 yards and 6 pts for all TDs, that is:

14

15

24

19

respectively.

If Pierre can stay healthy, he's vastly under rated on your cheatsheet.

 
Traders2001 said:
Slaton has nothing to do there , my guess is there will be a new starter in Houston by week 8 and he is nt on the team yet .
So, there is some RB on the street somewhere who is gonna come in and be better than Slaton???I bought low on Slaton 2 weeks ago and while Im not convinced that he will completely turn it around Id really like to know who is out there that you think could come off the street mid-season and be more productive.Im sure there are about 25 NFL teams who would like to know that too.
 
Starting RBs for the Saints so far this year:week 1 Mike Bell: 28/143week 2 Mike Bell: 17/86/1 1 reception 9 yardsweek 3 (1/2 game due to illness) Pierre Thomas: 14/126/2week 4 Pierre Thomas: 19/86/1 4/46In leagues where 1 pt = 10 yards and 6 pts for all TDs, that is:14152419respectively.If Pierre can stay healthy, he's vastly under rated on your cheatsheet.
I soooo hope you're right. I own him as well. He looked very good yesterday against a tough NY Jets defense. I didn't get to see the great second half performance vs Buffalo, but it was certainly impressive on the stat sheet.
 
JuniorNB said:
tonka said:
Uh... Knowshon Moreno?Also, you're clearly a Mendenhall owner.
Not unless Buckhalter goes down. They share too much of the workload. Plus they begin playing some good defenses soon.And, yes. I am. As I stated, that ranking reflects my feeling (or hopes) that he has permanently supplanted FWP.
He did go down yesterday.We'll see for how long. Could mean a significant bump for KM's touches moving forward.
 
Starting RBs for the Saints so far this year:week 1 Mike Bell: 28/143week 2 Mike Bell: 17/86/1 1 reception 9 yardsweek 3 (1/2 game due to illness) Pierre Thomas: 14/126/2week 4 Pierre Thomas: 19/86/1 4/46In leagues where 1 pt = 10 yards and 6 pts for all TDs, that is:14152419respectively.If Pierre can stay healthy, he's vastly under rated on your cheatsheet.
Totally agree. Pierre is top 10 easy
 
JuniorNB said:
Knobs said:
You would rather have Fred Jackson over LT? Whaaa?
Absolutley. I was actually going to roll the dice on LT very early in the draft but another owner took him right before me. Thank God. He hasn't imnpressed me at all. He's going to get even older as the season progresses.
This is correct, he will get older as the season progresses. I'm busting, I don't mind the list - we always see cookie cutter lists.
 
JuniorNB said:
1. Adrian Peterson

2. Chris Johnson

3. Maurice Jones- Drew

4. Frank Gore

5. Michael Turner

6. Brandon Jacobs

7. Matt Forte

8. Brandon Jacobs

9. Steven Jackson

10. Steve Slaton

11. Cedric Benson

12. Ronnie Brown

13. Pierre Thomas

14. Rashard Mendenhall

15. Ray Rice

16. Deangelo Williams

17. Ryan Grant

18. Fred Jackson

19. Kevin Smith

20. Marion Barber
Just gut reaction...Forte (Too High) He has a dreadful YPC avg, and he's catching half the balls he did last year.

Jacobs (Too High) Simply not producing as expected in YPC or TDs

Benson (Too Low) No competition for carries. You're punishing him based on past production.

Thomas (Too Low) That offensive is so explosive. Loads of TDs to come.

Mendenhall (Too High) Even if he does become the starter, the Steelers run game (minus vs. Chargers) has been questionable.

Good overall list, though. I like that it's not cookie-cutter like most sites.

 
Traders2001 said:
Slaton has nothing to do there , my guess is there will be a new starter in Houston by week 8 and he is nt on the team yet .
So, there is some RB on the street somewhere who is gonna come in and be better than Slaton???I bought low on Slaton 2 weeks ago and while Im not convinced that he will completely turn it around Id really like to know who is out there that you think could come off the street mid-season and be more productive.Im sure there are about 25 NFL teams who would like to know that too.
Maurice Clarrett? Ron Dayne? Lawrence Phillips?I think Traders2001 knows stuff that we don't. And he's soooo secretive. That's what makes him sexy.
 
Just gut reaction...

Forte (Too High) He has a dreadful YPC avg, and he's catching half the balls he did last year.

Jacobs (Too High) Simply not producing as expected in YPC or TDs

Benson (Too Low) No competition for carries. You're punishing him based on past production.

Thomas (Too Low) That offensive is so explosive. Loads of TDs to come.

Mendenhall (Too High) Even if he does become the starter, the Steelers run game (minus vs. Chargers) has been questionable.

Good overall list, though. I like that it's not cookie-cutter like most sites.
Forte has a 3.8 YPC as compared to 3.9 last yr. Hes also on pace for 52 catches as opposed to 63 last yr. basically hes the same exact player that for some odd reason was drafted way too high.
 
My top 10, FWIW....

1. ADP

2. MJD

3. Gore

4. Chris Johnson

5. Pierre Thomas

6. Kevin Smith

7. Jacobs

8. Forte

9. Westbrook

10. Benson

 
i dont understand why fjax is on that list. :mellow:
He's looked outstanding in the games that I've seen him play this year. I'm no Buffalo insider, though. Is it a foregone conclusion that Lynch will send him to the bench? I didn't see yesterday's game, but the stats show Jackson waveraged 4.7 ypc while Lynch averaged 0.5.
 
Bell will eat into PT's production eventually. Probably about 25% worth imo. That knocks him down to 8-10 area. Fjax also gets knocked down to about 15-20th and Lynch up to about 12th.

 
Just gut reaction...

Forte (Too High) He has a dreadful YPC avg, and he's catching half the balls he did last year.

Jacobs (Too High) Simply not producing as expected in YPC or TDs

Benson (Too Low) No competition for carries. You're punishing him based on past production.

Thomas (Too Low) That offensive is so explosive. Loads of TDs to come.

Mendenhall (Too High) Even if he does become the starter, the Steelers run game (minus vs. Chargers) has been questionable.

Good overall list, though. I like that it's not cookie-cutter like most sites.
Forte has a 3.8 YPC as compared to 3.9 last yr. Hes also on pace for 52 catches as opposed to 63 last yr. basically hes the same exact player that for some odd reason was drafted way too high.
Fair points and you're right about the numbers. I guess I had Forte's numbers in mind before his game yesterday when he had a 2.5 YPC avg. His 10.1 YPC against the Lions boosted that average considerably. We'll see if yesterday's game shows that Forte has turned the corner or if it was an aberration against one of the league's worst defenses.
 
Bell will eat into PT's production eventually. Probably about 25% worth imo. That knocks him down to 8-10 area. Fjax also gets knocked down to about 15-20th and Lynch up to about 12th.
Buffalo's offense is so spectacular that it will support 2 starting fantasy RBs?
 
i dont understand why fjax is on that list. :lmao:
He's looked outstanding in the games that I've seen him play this year. I'm no Buffalo insider, though. Is it a foregone conclusion that Lynch will send him to the bench? I didn't see yesterday's game, but the stats show Jackson waveraged 4.7 ypc while Lynch averaged 0.5.
In Lynch's first game back he had 8 carries. Jackson had 9.Jackson has always done well when Lynch has been out, yet Lynch has always come back and taken all the carries.You can argue whether it should be that way or not, but that doesn't really matter. It's just the way it is.
 
I think it's much to early to be shoving Deangelo down. Cream rises to the top and I believe this guy's one of the top 3 most talented RB's in the game right now. I think Carolina figures it out and Deangelo ends up a top 5 guy.

 
Westy a forgotten man right now. Has a bunch of big games in him this season for sure. See him as a top 7-8 guy from here on out.
I certainly haven't forgotten about, as the Eagles are my team, but I think that he'll either remain hampered and be less-effective, or he'll get healthy but the emegence of McCoy will entice Reid to split carries in an effort to keep them both healthy. With McCoy being healthy and looking more-than-capable, it would be foolish fot the Eagles to start relying heavily on Westbrook again and not have him in the playoffs.
 
Westy a forgotten man right now. Has a bunch of big games in him this season for sure. See him as a top 7-8 guy from here on out.
I certainly haven't forgotten about, as the Eagles are my team, but I think that he'll either remain hampered and be less-effective, or he'll get healthy but the emegence of McCoy will entice Reid to split carries in an effort to keep them both healthy. With McCoy being healthy and looking more-than-capable, it would be foolish fot the Eagles to start relying heavily on Westbrook again and not have him in the playoffs.
I think it'd be more foolish to not give their best player the ball as to save him. What good is a slightly more rested Westbrook if the Eagles are watching the playoffs on TV? McCoy's a nice rookie and certainly the guy of the future for the Eagles but he's obviously nowhere near the player Westbrook is at this point. Westy just getting into the flow now. Big games upcoming. McCoy owner here.
 
any particular reason julius jones doesnt make anybody's top 20? his qb is coming back, he's probably currently in the top 8 in most leagues, and the hardest part of his schedule is gone.

 
JuniorNB said:
Not unless Buckhalter goes down. They share too much of the workload. Plus they begin playing some good defenses soon.
You mean like their two games left against the Chargers (29th in the league in rushing yards allowed, 29th in rushing TDs allowed)? Or their two against the Chiefs (24th and 28th, respectively)? Maybe their second game against the Raiders (27th and 22nd)? Maybe you meant the Giants (20th and 22nd) or the Redskins (23rd and 3rd)? The Colts (18th and 22nd)?Here is how Denver's remaining opponents rank so far in several key categories:YPG allowed- 1st, 3rd, 11th, 15th, 16th, 18th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 26th, 28th, 28thYPA allowed- 1st, 8th, 8th, 13th, 13th, 16th, 16th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 31stRushing defense DVOA (through 3 weeks)- 2nd, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 21st, 22nd, 26th, 26th, 28th, 28th, 31stI still see a strong preponderance of bad defenses (and especially bad RUSHING defenses) on Denver's schedule.
 
Westy a forgotten man right now. Has a bunch of big games in him this season for sure. See him as a top 7-8 guy from here on out.
Westbrook should not be left off this list. McCoy will take some of the load off his back but the Cat is a big time playmaker. Reid has not forgotten about him. Unfortunately I had to trade him in my dynasty league to upgrade my WR position but I hated to let him go; even with #'s 2,3 and 15 on the original list.
 
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Bell will eat into PT's production eventually. Probably about 25% worth imo. That knocks him down to 8-10 area. Fjax also gets knocked down to about 15-20th and Lynch up to about 12th.
Buffalo's offense is so spectacular that it will support 2 starting fantasy RBs?
well, edwards and the passing game are so bad the only chance they have is to run 40 times.
That'll net about 100-120 yards, lol.
 
JuniorNB said:
Not unless Buckhalter goes down. They share too much of the workload. Plus they begin playing some good defenses soon.
You mean like their two games left against the Chargers (29th in the league in rushing yards allowed, 29th in rushing TDs allowed)? Or their two against the Chiefs (24th and 28th, respectively)? Maybe their second game against the Raiders (27th and 22nd)? Maybe you meant the Giants (20th and 22nd) or the Redskins (23rd and 3rd)? The Colts (18th and 22nd)?Here is how Denver's remaining opponents rank so far in several key categories:

YPG allowed- 1st, 3rd, 11th, 15th, 16th, 18th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 26th, 28th, 28th

YPA allowed- 1st, 8th, 8th, 13th, 13th, 16th, 16th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 31st

Rushing defense DVOA (through 3 weeks)- 2nd, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 21st, 22nd, 26th, 26th, 28th, 28th, 31st

I still see a strong preponderance of bad defenses (and especially bad RUSHING defenses) on Denver's schedule.
I liked what I saw from Moreno yesterday. That stretch right there looks juicy. I think we will continue to see Moreno assume more and more of the workload as the season continues. Could be real big time down the stretch this season.
 
My Top 20 in a TD heavy/non 1 per 10 league (something like a 1 pt/25 yard league)

1. Adrian Peterson

2. Maurice Jones- Drew

3. Chris Johnson

4. Michael Turner

5. Brandon Jacobs

6. Ronnie Brown

7. Deangelo Williams

8. Cedric Benson

9. Pierre Thomas

10. Matt Forte

11. Steve Slaton

12. Frank Gore

13. Brian Westbrook

14. Marion Barber

15. Ryan Grant

16. Clinton Portis

17. Willis McGahee

18. Steven Jackson

19. Kevin Smith

20. Rashard Mendenhall

 
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You mean like their two games left against the Chargers (29th in the league in rushing yards allowed, 29th in rushing TDs allowed)? Or their two against the Chiefs (24th and 28th, respectively)? Maybe their second game against the Raiders (27th and 22nd)? Maybe you meant the Giants (20th and 22nd) or the Redskins (23rd and 3rd)? The Colts (18th and 22nd)?

Here is how Denver's remaining opponents rank so far in several key categories:

YPG allowed- 1st, 3rd, 11th, 15th, 16th, 18th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 26th, 28th, 28th

YPA allowed- 1st, 8th, 8th, 13th, 13th, 16th, 16th, 20th, 21st, 22nd, 22nd, 31st

Rushing defense DVOA (through 3 weeks)- 2nd, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 21st, 22nd, 26th, 26th, 28th, 28th, 31st

I still see a strong preponderance of bad defenses (and especially bad RUSHING defenses) on Denver's schedule.
I liked what I saw from Moreno yesterday. That stretch right there looks juicy. I think we will continue to see Moreno assume more and more of the workload as the season continues. Could be real big time down the stretch this season.
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, but those are the defensive rankings sorted from best to worst, that's not the actual order that Denver faces them on the schedule.
 

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