I don't know if Grant will wind up top 10, but it won't be because GB 'wants to get other people the ball'. They had to involve Jackson in week 1 due to Grant's hammy. And it was painfully obvious that even on one leg Grant is a much better option than Jackson. When the hammy heals, Grant will get the ball plenty. Of course, the hammy may linger and that would keep him out of the top 10, if the lack of a push at the goalline or Rodgers sniping 1yd TDs doesn't do it.
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thehornet
Footballguy
no, buddy, you're the tool. you have posted in here about 10 times crying about Chris Johnson. Give it a freakin rest. He isn't a top ten back. He might be if he can continue to blow it up. "Guppy" - lmao! Anyone who uses that lame term should go ahead and look in the mirror.
timschochet
Footballguy
I think Forte is going to end up a steady top ten guy this year, better than most people project. He's going to get a ton of carries, perhaps more than any other RB on the list.
blackjack23
Footballguy
Didnt you also think Bradshaw was gonna get more carries than Jacobs?Burning Sensation said:
Seriously, I think Johnson is talented and I have no clue how hes gonna do over the next 4-5 weeks but I expected Addai to start off slow the first 4 weeks due to a tough schedule and a bye week. So even if you bump it then I still wont be sold.blackjack23
Footballguy
I think its amazing how quickly 1 week changes peoples minds. Nobody was high on Forte because of the dreadful offense he plays for with the dreadful line. Now all of a sudden you got him in your top 10? Once again I say thats nuts.timschochet said:
thehornet
Footballguy
great response. Later clown.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Blackjacks
Footballguy
And you see I changed my mind about Jacobs after seeing a game played and he looked very good. I also think Johnson is talented but I wouldn't put him this high. I just don't know how he is going to be used.Didnt you also think Bradshaw was gonna get more carries than Jacobs?Burning Sensation said:Seriously, I think Johnson is talented and I have no clue how hes gonna do over the next 4-5 weeks but I expected Addai to start off slow the first 4 weeks due to a tough schedule and a bye week. So even if you bump it then I still wont be sold.
On the flip-side there are usually, what is it 4?, RBs who finish in the top 10 that weren't consensus top 10 picks pre-season. The longer it takes to identify these guys the less advantage you have for doing so. Week one might be a little early but if you are right and can acquire them on the cheap the reward is huge. Waiting till week 6 when everyone can see this guy is bucking the trend is useless. I am not saying that Forte will finish top 10 (nor am I saying he wont) but if he does the people who recognize it now have a huge jump on the people who have to wait and see before they make up their mind.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Frank Fontaine said:
Blackjacks
Footballguy
This is what this thread was meant to help withOn the flip-side there are usually, what is it 4?, RBs who finish in the top 10 that weren't consensus top 10 picks pre-season. The longer it takes to identify these guys the less advantage you have for doing so. Week one might be a little early but if you are right and can acquire them on the cheap the reward is huge. Waiting till week 6 when everyone can see this guy is bucking the trend is useless. I am not saying that Forte will finish top 10 (nor am I saying he wont) but if he does the people who recognize it now have a huge jump on the people who have to wait and see before they make up their mind.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
The rb's who don'f finish top ten usually fall out because of injuries...
Does the "why" matter? In any event there are those who unexpectedly finish top 10, and identifying them is the goal. It doesn't matter if that spot was made because someone was injured or if they were abducted by aliens.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I looked in the mirror, I saw a shark, and a handsome one at that, what does that have to do with your guppiness?thehornet said:
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Well, yes, it does matter "why". If people had Addai as a top ten rb before the season started, it makes absolutely no sense to bump him out after one game. AddaiGoreSteven JacksonLTADPWestbrookThese guys were top ten in virtually everyone's rankings...and the reason everybody loved them is because they all get the ball. A lot. And that's the thing you want from your rb - the more they touch the ball the more likely they are to get you points. Each game these guys get the ball a fair amount. So if they had one fluke game where they didn't touch it a lot or weren't very productive, imo you need to be very cautious in knocking them out of the top ten. Because, barring injury, that's where they'll likely end up after this season is over.
Good point. I was speaking more about who could bump up. I admit predicting who will fall out is much more difficult.
switz
Footballguy
even if he doesn't against the Eagles, it doesn't mean he won't over the course of the year. The coaches have said they want to work him in slowly, but that still involves working him in.... Already some in Dallas are clamoring for him to get a larger workload than last week (9 carries)
switz
Footballguy
1) A. Peterson - tied
1) LT - tied
3) Westbrook - until he gets hurt
4) Bush - for real
5) Turner - 220 against DET = 110 against NFL teams
6) Addai - the OL showed improvement over the course of the game, Rhodes obviously no threat (2 carries)
7) Gore - looked ok
8) Lynch - nice moves
9) Grant - with a bad hamstring and all
10) FWP - 3 TDs made him look better than he is
11) Barber - injured in the first game?
12) Portis - consistent, but not stellar
13) Forte - is week 1 for real?
Something like that
1) LT - tied
3) Westbrook - until he gets hurt
4) Bush - for real
5) Turner - 220 against DET = 110 against NFL teams
6) Addai - the OL showed improvement over the course of the game, Rhodes obviously no threat (2 carries)
7) Gore - looked ok
8) Lynch - nice moves
9) Grant - with a bad hamstring and all
10) FWP - 3 TDs made him look better than he is
11) Barber - injured in the first game?
12) Portis - consistent, but not stellar
13) Forte - is week 1 for real?
Something like that
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Those still down on FWP=idiots
What we have here is a premiere yardage back whose lack of TD's last year was a FLUKE, and contrary to popular foresight, did NOT lose many carries this week to a rookie that can't hold on to the ball.
Didn't look too bad running around the ends on Sunday. Or over the goalline three times, for that matter.
I think he warrants top 5, but we'll all see how this plays out I guess. Glad I "wasted" my 3rd rd pick on him for now.
What we have here is a premiere yardage back whose lack of TD's last year was a FLUKE, and contrary to popular foresight, did NOT lose many carries this week to a rookie that can't hold on to the ball.
Didn't look too bad running around the ends on Sunday. Or over the goalline three times, for that matter.
I think he warrants top 5, but we'll all see how this plays out I guess. Glad I "wasted" my 3rd rd pick on him for now.
switz
Footballguy
Don't see many down on him in this thread... unless that was in response to my comment. My point was, he's not going to score three TDs every week.
Banger
Footballguy
I don't see Turner as the layup everyone else does. He had a tremendous game but Detroit is just a complete joke. Last year Lamont Jordan went nuts the 1st few games and was among the top few RB's and people had the same top 10 crazy talk and were pulling off some ridiculous deals. It's a long season and while I love Chris Johnson and Turner and others, they have to prove themselves for more than 1 week to be considered a top 10 rb.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
switz said:1) A. Peterson - tied
1) LT - tied
3) Westbrook - until he gets hurt
4) Bush - for real
5) Turner - 220 against DET = 110 against NFL teams (I usually don't like rb's on bad teams but you could be right)
6) Addai - the OL showed improvement over the course of the game, Rhodes obviously no threat (2 carries)
7) Gore - looked ok (Don't trust him or Martz. You say something about Westy getty hurt but nothing about Gore)
8) Lynch - nice moves
9) Grant - with a bad hamstring and all (looked good but still not a believer)10) FWP - 3 TDs made him look better than he is
11) Barber - injured in the first game?
12) Portis - consistent, but not stellar (Focal point of a good running team)13) Forte - is week 1 for real?
Something like that
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I have high, but realistic, hopes for Turner based on his lack of catches. He had 1 on Sunday, which gives him 12 for his career. This team wil play from behind a time or three this season and Norwood has proven to be a very able pass catcher.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
1. AD - Easy #1 if he stays healthy
2. LT - Will take a step down this year, but still good enough for #2.
3. Westbrook - Could argue him as #1 in PPR
4. Barber - Im sold, if he stays healthy, he is a top 5 back in that Dallas offense.
5. Lynch - Edwards looks like he is improved, and should keep defenses honest. Peters comes back this week as well.
6. Turner - How many backs do you think will run for 200+ against Detroit this year?
7. CJ - What more is there to say about him, lock for top 10 this year.
8. Gore - Would be in the top 5 if the SF defense was any better.
9. SJax - He is one of the 3 most talented backs in the NFL, he WILL get his.
10. FWP - Mendenhall is no threat, and the Steelers will run alot this year.
Notable exeptions:
MJD - A top 5 talent, but might struggle with Oline injuries.
Clinton Portis - Good RB, but Washington looks horrible.
Brandon Jacobs - His injury risk, and RBBC keeps him out.
Matt Forte - Has top 10 upside, but i doubt he gets there palyng in that Bears offense.
Joseph Addai - average talent, injury risk, spliiting carries, Oline a mess, Colts look out of sync, nothng to like about Addai.
Ryan Grant - Just not a fan of his talent, he is banged up and splitting carries with BJax.
2. LT - Will take a step down this year, but still good enough for #2.
3. Westbrook - Could argue him as #1 in PPR
4. Barber - Im sold, if he stays healthy, he is a top 5 back in that Dallas offense.
5. Lynch - Edwards looks like he is improved, and should keep defenses honest. Peters comes back this week as well.
6. Turner - How many backs do you think will run for 200+ against Detroit this year?
7. CJ - What more is there to say about him, lock for top 10 this year.
8. Gore - Would be in the top 5 if the SF defense was any better.
9. SJax - He is one of the 3 most talented backs in the NFL, he WILL get his.
10. FWP - Mendenhall is no threat, and the Steelers will run alot this year.
Notable exeptions:
MJD - A top 5 talent, but might struggle with Oline injuries.
Clinton Portis - Good RB, but Washington looks horrible.
Brandon Jacobs - His injury risk, and RBBC keeps him out.
Matt Forte - Has top 10 upside, but i doubt he gets there palyng in that Bears offense.
Joseph Addai - average talent, injury risk, spliiting carries, Oline a mess, Colts look out of sync, nothng to like about Addai.
Ryan Grant - Just not a fan of his talent, he is banged up and splitting carries with BJax.
switz
Footballguy
Love the see the objectivity BS... Rhodes had all of TWO carries, and that was with Addai missing almost the entire 4th quarter. Addai isn't splitting carries....
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I can't believe the passionate lovefest for Chris Johnson on this board based on one game. One game and he's already going to be better than the likes of Gore, Portis, SJax, and Addai? Come on now.
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Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I am being objective, i suspect Rhodes carries will go up as the season goes on to keep Addai healthy/fresh. No matter how you slice it, no way Addai finishes in the top 10 this year. I am as sure of this as anything in FF this year.
switz
Footballguy
We'll see. I don't see where you can base your certainty on though. Addai beat out Rhodes his rookie season, so it's not like Rhodes proved himself better. Rhodes was the let to walk, so it's not like the team felt they needed him. Rhodes was then resigned for dirt, because no one else wanted him. Then, first game back with the Colts he gets 2 carries, 4 catches. It's not like he needs to learn the offense, so what excuse is there for him not splitting carries, especially in view of Addai leaving the game.Maybe it's just time to admit you were wrong all along about Addai. You didn't think he'd finish top-5 last year either.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Check the record, i loved Addai last year, taking him #3 overall in one of my redrafts, and was laughed at for doing so. I traded him this last offseson in one of my dynasty leages because i was not sold on his long term success, and he was considered a top 5 dynasty back. Rhodes is not my biggest concern for Addai, its just a small factor. You are right about one thing...we shall see, but like i said, i couldnt be any more sure about anything this year, if i am wrong, i will retire from fantasy football.
footballsavvy
Footballguy
Felix Jones played because Barber was hurt. Sure he may get 8-10 carries a game, but that means Barber gets around 15 minimum. Are you forgetting that Barber went to the Pro Bowl on 10 carries a game in 2007?
Portis is ok, but he has lost that killer instinct. He plays for the 8-10 yard run now. He used to play for the TD on every carry.
If they continue to feed Jacobs the ball the way they did week 1, he will blow through 1400 yards quickly.
Bush might be at the top of the list in a PPR league, but I don't see him getting more than 8-10 rush attempts per game.
Gore will be right up there with Bush in a PPR league. Better rushing, and not quite as many catches... but make no mistake, Martz is much closer to Faulk than any RB he has had in awhile.
Chris Johnson may or may not be there. Obviosuly he could very easily get the stats, the question is... will he? I think he finishes in the top 10 in PPR very easily, but maybe borderline top 10 in rushing stats.
Addai... look for a down year. It was suspected prior to the season and it looks rought out the gate after week one. If the colts are behind more than normal this year, Addai won't have the carries to make the numbers add up. That being said, I can only imagine what kind of stats the passing game will produce if Indy is playing from behind more than normal this year.
Willie Parker is streaky so its hard to day. I don't think any coach will work in a rookie when the veteran is ripping off 100 yard games and multiple TD's. He would have to slip for several weeks in a row for Mendenhall to become a real issue.
A. Peterson is the real deal. He plays for the endzone every time he touches the ball and you can see it in his style. He does NOT like going down or out of bounds and his stats benefit from this.
I'm worried about Tomlinson. The talk of turf toe is never a good sign, and hes one year older than last year. If he stays healthy he will have good stats, but Iwould guess not as good as the previous few years.... but we've said that before...
Stephen Jackson - will the Rams ever be in a position to run the ball more than 15 times per game? Luckily he can still benefit a lot while they pass the ball for 3 quarters trying to keep up. I don't see huge rushing stats this year, but perhaps a big reception year for him. He will be solid in PPR leagues.
I havent seen any real reason Westbrook won't continue to be strong. He should finish at the top in PPR and maybe top 6 or so in rushing.
Lynch has been under my radar this year due to our rookie 2-yr keeper draft. No comment.
Portis is ok, but he has lost that killer instinct. He plays for the 8-10 yard run now. He used to play for the TD on every carry.
If they continue to feed Jacobs the ball the way they did week 1, he will blow through 1400 yards quickly.
Bush might be at the top of the list in a PPR league, but I don't see him getting more than 8-10 rush attempts per game.
Gore will be right up there with Bush in a PPR league. Better rushing, and not quite as many catches... but make no mistake, Martz is much closer to Faulk than any RB he has had in awhile.
Chris Johnson may or may not be there. Obviosuly he could very easily get the stats, the question is... will he? I think he finishes in the top 10 in PPR very easily, but maybe borderline top 10 in rushing stats.
Addai... look for a down year. It was suspected prior to the season and it looks rought out the gate after week one. If the colts are behind more than normal this year, Addai won't have the carries to make the numbers add up. That being said, I can only imagine what kind of stats the passing game will produce if Indy is playing from behind more than normal this year.
Willie Parker is streaky so its hard to day. I don't think any coach will work in a rookie when the veteran is ripping off 100 yard games and multiple TD's. He would have to slip for several weeks in a row for Mendenhall to become a real issue.
A. Peterson is the real deal. He plays for the endzone every time he touches the ball and you can see it in his style. He does NOT like going down or out of bounds and his stats benefit from this.
I'm worried about Tomlinson. The talk of turf toe is never a good sign, and hes one year older than last year. If he stays healthy he will have good stats, but Iwould guess not as good as the previous few years.... but we've said that before...
Stephen Jackson - will the Rams ever be in a position to run the ball more than 15 times per game? Luckily he can still benefit a lot while they pass the ball for 3 quarters trying to keep up. I don't see huge rushing stats this year, but perhaps a big reception year for him. He will be solid in PPR leagues.
I havent seen any real reason Westbrook won't continue to be strong. He should finish at the top in PPR and maybe top 6 or so in rushing.
Lynch has been under my radar this year due to our rookie 2-yr keeper draft. No comment.
