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I really like AZ's offense to role this year so I'll be higher on Edge than most.IMO Bush is too high. And I don't see Edge getting enough TDs to crack the Top 10.
Initially I liked Portis a lot, but he drops in PPRs, also with Betts hanging around...I don't know, I just see quite a bit of risk there. A guy I would love to draft in the second round, but wouldn't draft in the first.Mine: LT SJSALJ- I really wanna drop him lowerPortisAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge
Portis is 10X the back Betts is, Betts = Blaylock, Portis = Holmes, dont underestimate the power of an Al Saunders offense, I could see Portis moving into the first tear if healthy.Initially I liked Portis a lot, but he drops in PPRs, also with Betts hanging around...I don't know, I just see quite a bit of risk there. A guy I would love to draft in the second round, but wouldn't draft in the first.Mine: LT SJSALJ- I really wanna drop him lowerPortisAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge
I like the call edge, and addai, but I think you should follow my lead and drop LJ, Westbrook as well1. LT2. LJ3. Jackson4. Alexander5. Westbrook6. Bush7. Parker8. Gore9. Addai10. Edge11. Rudi12. Henry13. Maroney
LJ is going to fall off the way Jamal Lewis did as a result of his "angry" running style, but I'm giving him one more year.I like the call edge, and addai, but I think you should follow my lead and drop LJ, Westbrook as well1. LT2. LJ3. Jackson4. Alexander5. Westbrook6. Bush7. Parker8. Gore9. Addai10. Edge11. Rudi12. Henry13. Maroney
I obviously agree that Portis is significantly more talented than Betts, but I think they're going to split the load too much for Portis to bust into the top tiers in PPR.That being said, he's a guy that can definitely make a move up based on the preseason...he's riskier than all of those I have ranked above him IMHO.Portis is 10X the back Betts is, Betts = Blaylock, Portis = Holmes, dont underestimate the power of an Al Saunders offense, I could see Portis moving into the first tear if healthy.
Injury history knocks him down a tad, but upside can't be ignored.I think Gore should be in the top tier among RBs below LT
dont forget he lost turnerInjury History, knocks him down a tad, but upside can't be ignored.I think Gore should be in the top tier among RBs below LT
Didnt they promote one of Turners assistants? I dont think the philosophy will changedont forget he lost turnerInjury History, knocks him down a tad, but upside can't be ignored.I think Gore should be in the top tier among RBs below LT
The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDs, something definitely clicked at the end.Intersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
Shhh...The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
yeah I know. But new coach, new scheme and 0% improment on the line. Not as many catches for Edge either.The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
Hard to rank him over the other guys in front of him...I looked at it though.Reggie Bush averaged over 26 points per game (PPR) in the second half of the 2006 season. That's something to consider.
FA Al Johnson will probably take over at center and a couple of younger guys really came on at the end. We really need to fill the void at LT.Also don't forget Grimm is very highly regarded as an O-line coach.yeah I know. But new coach, new scheme and 0% improment on the line. Not as many catches for Edge either.The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
Meh...I don't like guys that have problems with motivation, although I do like his situation. I still think Leon Washington is a guy to watch.Thomas Jones is going to surprise people next season.
WESTBROOKMine: LT SJSAPortisLJ- I really wanna drop him lowerAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge
I think Norris forgot about PPR.pretty bad omission IMOWESTBROOKMine: LT SJSAPortisLJ- I really wanna drop him lowerAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge![]()
Yeah I thought it was the default setting on dd. I have Westbrook 9th, I have him projected at about 950 rushing, and 600 receiverI think Norris forgot about PPR.pretty bad omission IMOWESTBROOKMine: LT SJSAPortisLJ- I really wanna drop him lowerAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge![]()
Right tier if you think Betts gets a good share of the load, but I still don't see him below Henry and Edge.I think Portis deserves to be in the third tier...I'll bump him up and edit my original post.
Meh...I don't like guys that have problems with motivation, although I do like his situation. I still think Leon Washington is a guy to watch.Thomas Jones is going to surprise people next season.
Said he didn't run hard in AZ, and that it was easy to lose your motivation in a losing environment.Meh...I don't like guys that have problems with motivation, although I do like his situation. I still think Leon Washington is a guy to watch.Thomas Jones is going to surprise people next season.Can you explain please? I'm sure I'm missing something.
Right tier if you think Betts gets a good share of the load, but I still don't see him below Henry and Edge.I think Portis deserves to be in the third tier...I'll bump him up and edit my original post.
As a point of reference, here is how the #21 RB scored in PPR decimal scoring the past three years:2004 Kevin Jones 183 points17-Edge
18-Chester
19-T.Jones
20-Benson
21-Jacobs
22-A.Green
23-Deuce
24-Caddy
My hardest guys to rank right now are T.Henry and A.Green, just can seem to get them in the right spot.
yeah we know about your jacobs feelingsAs a point of reference, here is how the #21 RB scored in PPR decimal scoring the past three years:2004 Kevin Jones 183 points17-Edge
18-Chester
19-T.Jones
20-Benson
21-Jacobs
22-A.Green
23-Deuce
24-Caddy
My hardest guys to rank right now are T.Henry and A.Green, just can seem to get them in the right spot.
2005 C. Williams 179.9 points
2006 Jamal Lewis 194.7 points
On average, that's 185.8 points for RB21.
If Jacobs gets 10 TD's, that's 60 points.
Estimate 20 catches for about 170 yards (8.5 YPC), that's 37 more points.
That leaves 886 yards rushing to get to the three year average needed to meet your projection. He'll need at least 200-230 carries to get to that number.
Those stats could be attainable, but Jacobs must be a 230-250 touch RB and get double digit TD's again to meet the ranking. Personally, I am highly skeptical that he'll get that much workload.
Wow, I was completely unaware he said that. However, I think he has matured since that time. He was a leader and popular amongst his teammates while on the Bears.Said he didn't run hard in AZ, and that it was easy to lose your motivation in a losing environment.Meh...I don't like guys that have problems with motivation, although I do like his situation. I still think Leon Washington is a guy to watch.Thomas Jones is going to surprise people next season.Can you explain please? I'm sure I'm missing something.
Portis should be 9th at the lowest. Edit it again. This list screams 2nd place in PDSL31. LT2. LJ3. Jackson4. Alexander5. Westbrook6. Bush7. Parker8. Gore9. Addai10. Edge11. Rudi12. Henry13. Maroney14. Portis
peronsally I think PPR is the only way to go.but thats another threadLiquid Tension said:Don't know about that, but I don't understand why anyone would play PPR leagues? Artificial and unrealistic is not my idea of fun. Might as well give a point of a hand off as well?As for this list, Ronnie Brown will catch a lot of balls with Culpy back there so I would have him on the top 10.aldelgreco said:LHUCKS has man boobs. thoughts?
Betts and Blaylock or two entirely different RB's and Betts is a lot betterPortis is 10X the back Betts is, Betts = Blaylock, Portis = Holmes, dont underestimate the power of an Al Saunders offense, I could see Portis moving into the first tear if healthy.Initially I liked Portis a lot, but he drops in PPRs, also with Betts hanging around...I don't know, I just see quite a bit of risk there. A guy I would love to draft in the second round, but wouldn't draft in the first.Mine: LT SJSALJ- I really wanna drop him lowerPortisAddaiGore ParkerRudiEdge
probably more like 70-75but I expect his carries to increaseDo you people really see Bush having 88 catches again?
Yes.This would probably be a good time to give props to Dodds and Levin...they both projected big reception numbers for Bush last year and I thought they were a bit high.Do you people really see Bush having 88 catches again?
yeah I know. But new coach, new scheme and 0% improment on the line. Not as many catches for Edge either.The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
I dont see it with the new pitt style of offense coming and three really good receivers. Leinart doesnt seem like a check down type of passer either. Pitt's o typically brings out the starting RB on perceived 3rd downsyeah I know. But new coach, new scheme and 0% improment on the line. Not as many catches for Edge either.The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.He'll have more catches if anything, he had a career low in catches last season.
:X I could not agree more. Edge anytime sooner than RB3/4 production is wishfull thinkingIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.
What do you have him projected as and I'll tell you how its wrongI dont see it with the new pitt style of offense coming and three really good receivers. Leinart doesnt seem like a check down type of passer either. Pitt's o typically brings out the starting RB on perceived 3rd downsyeah I know. But new coach, new scheme and 0% improment on the line. Not as many catches for Edge either.The last 5 games edge was on pace for 1484 yards rushing and 10 TDsIntersting thing about Edge there Hucks being in AZ and all, they have improved their Oline - 0%, and I doubt a rookie will have a huge impact, I take it you think Grimm/Wisen up-coaching is enough. I know Edge had a strong 2nd half, but Im colored a skeptic right now.He'll have more catches if anything, he had a career low in catches last season.