My week 3 preseason thoughts A-Z (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

A) Toomer looks good, Jacobs has looked average

B) Houston offense, particularly Ahman and Jacoby Jones, looked very good against the Dallas Defense

C) Green Bay will be a RBBC and James Jones will be an impact player this year

D) Bowe showed some promise and Croyle is not ready for the big time yet

E) Youngs ability to make defenders miss while he's running is mind boggling and Roydell Williams could be a steal this year

F) Marshawn Lynch had nowhere to run and he may be a good buy low candidate if owners are panicking

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

H) Oakland is the sleeper offense of the year, Porter hasn't got many looks this preseason

I) Isaac Bruce is the man

J) Kitna is really necessary to make the Lions offense click, Johnson is a beast

K) It's almost boring now to watch the Colts march up and down the field at will

L) Garcia hasn't looked great, Galloway still underrated, Cadillac solid

M) Miami is still learning Cameron's system...will take a while for this offense to gel, Beck is the real deal, Chatman has outplayed Brown

N) Rex will once again be high risk/high reward on any given week, Benson still not that impressive

O) Leon Washington is legit, Clemens has outperformed Pennington in the preseason

P) Jones/Barber will be RBBC until an injury

Q) Tarvaris Jackson is incredibly undervalued and where did Bobby Wade come from????

R) Hasselbeck to Pollard was impressive, Hasselbeck spread the ball around quite a bit

S) Leftwich and WRs still trying to gel with Koetter's new offense, Northcutt is a sleeper

T) Vincent Jackson was impressive, Davis not targeted at all, Gates uncoverable as usual

U) Arizona pass blocking was very impressive, Leinart impressive as well, run blocking still sucks

V) Quinn's accuracy appears to have improved since his ND days, Jamal Lewis has looked better than I expected

W) Cecil Sapp looked good

 

[Gopher State]

A) Toomer looks good, Jacobs has looked averageB) Houston offense, particularly Ahman and Jacoby Jones, looked very good against the Dallas DefenseC) Green Bay will be a RBBC and James Jones will be an impact player this yearD) Bowe showed some promise and Croyle is not ready for the big time yetE) Youngs ability to make defenders miss while he's running is mind boggling and Roydell Williams could be a steal this yearF) Marshawn Lynch had nowhere to run and he may be a good buy low candidate if owners are panickingG) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked goodH) Oakland is the sleeper offense of the year, Porter hasn't got many looks this preseasonI) Isaac Bruce is the manJ) Kitna is really necessary to make the Lions offense click, Johnson is a beastK) It's almost boring now to watch the Colts march up and down the field at willL) Garcia hasn't looked great, Galloway still underrated, Cadillac solidM) Miami is still learning Cameron's system...will take a while for this offense to gel, Beck is the real deal, Chatman has outplayed BrownN) Rex will once again be high risk/high reward on any given week, Benson still not that impressiveO) Leon Washington is legit, Clemens has outperformed Pennington in the preseasonP) Jones/Barber will be RBBC until an injuryQ) Tarvaris Jackson is incredibly undervalued and where did Bobby Wade come from????R) Hasselbeck to Pollard was impressive, Hasselbeck spread the ball around quite a bitS) Leftwich and WRs still trying to gel with Koetter's new offense, Northcutt is a sleeperT) Vincent Jackson was impressive, Davis not targeted at all, Gates uncoverable as usualU) Arizona pass blocking was very impressive, Leinart impressive as well, run blocking still sucks V) Quinn's accuracy appears to have improved since his ND days, Jamal Lewis has looked better than I expectedW) Cecil Sapp looked good

Very I like the I. on Bruce he could have a comeback year. No Boston Opinion?

 

[LHUCKS]

No Boston Opinion?

Solid, but I can't get excited about TB until Garcia looks better.

 

[omally]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

 

[LHUCKS]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

Except Welker wasn't facing starting DBs.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Where are X, Y & Z?

I think I'm in the minority, but I don't understand the Leon Washington hype on this board. I give him credit for his 79 yard reception yesterday, but that's about the only productive play he's had all preseason. So far, 27 carries for 88 yards or slightly less than 3.3 ypc. He had a huge chance to step up for an injured Thomas Jones last night and did absolutely nothing in the run game. Aside from his big catch and TD, he has 5 receptions for 10 yards. What am I missing???

 

[Warhogs]

Waiting for X,Y and Z....

 

[LHUCKS]

Where are X, Y & Z?

two more games to go

 

[packersfan]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

His ADP continues to be very low. He's an absolute steal right now - especially in PPR leagues. No way Moss and Stallworth both stay healthy for the entire season so on top of all the looks Welker will likely get in the intermediate areas as a slot receiver, he could expand upon them if he gets to start a few games. I feel confident in predicting he's a guy Brady is going to look to a lot because he'll be able to trust him.

 

[LHUCKS]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

His ADP continues to be very low. He's an absolute steal right now - especially in PPR leagues.

Is he for sure ahead of Gaffney for a starting spot in the event of an injury? I believe Welker is locked into the slot which leaves him with very limited upside given NEs offense IMHO.

 

[2 Minute Drill w your mom]

Where are X, Y & Z? I think I'm in the minority, but I don't understand the Leon Washington hype on this board. I give him credit for his 79 yard reception yesterday, but that's about the only productive play he's had all preseason. So far, 27 carries for 88 yards or slightly less than 3.3 ypc. He had a huge chance to step up for an injured Thomas Jones last night and did absolutely nothing in the run game. Aside from his big catch and TD, he has 5 receptions for 10 yards. What am I missing???

He looks like the prototypical change of pace back, not a full-time starting RB....

 

[angman]

In response to T, Craig Davis didn't play last night, he had his wisdom teeth pulled on Thursday.

 

[packersfan]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

His ADP continues to be very low. He's an absolute steal right now - especially in PPR leagues.

Is he for sure ahead of Gaffney for a starting spot in the even of an injury? I think Welker is locked into the slot which leaves him with very limited upside given NEs offense IMHO.

I agree he's locked into the slot but I also think that gives him value. Moss and Stallworth bring the ability to stretch the defense. That will open up the underneath routes for Welker, Watson and Faulk as well. Brady will be able to exploit the whole field if all his weapons stay healthy. Welker runs good routes, has good hands and is dependable. That gives him value in my opinion because that's the kind of guy Brady will trust. Moss and Stallworth are both more talented in my opinion but neither have been very trustworthy. I could see Welker emerging as Brady's safety valve the way Engram is in Seattle and the way Toomer is with the Giants.

 

[LHUCKS]

In response to T, Craig Davis didn't play last night, he had his wisdom teeth pulled on Thursday.

Somehow I missed that...probably because I was while watching the game.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

Except Welker wasn't facing starting DBs.

Welker started and did face starters. He had 2 catches in the first quarter, and the other in the first 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter.

 

[LHUCKS]

G) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked good

Wes Welker looked just as good as Stallworth.

Except Welker wasn't facing starting DBs.

Welker started and did face starters. He had 2 catches in the first quarter, and the other in the first 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter.

He started in the slot, but he didn't start at WR1 or WR2. When I say started I mean in the standard sets.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

 

[LHUCKS]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

 

[Captain Hook]

A) Toomer looks good, Jacobs has looked averageB) Houston offense, particularly Ahman and Jacoby Jones, looked very good against the Dallas DefenseC) Green Bay will be a RBBC and James Jones will be an impact player this yearD) Bowe showed some promise and Croyle is not ready for the big time yetE) Youngs ability to make defenders miss while he's running is mind boggling and Roydell Williams could be a steal this yearF) Marshawn Lynch had nowhere to run and he may be a good buy low candidate if owners are panickingG) Sammy Morris is a must have handcuff for Maroney, Stallworth looked goodH) Oakland is the sleeper offense of the year, Porter hasn't got many looks this preseasonI) Isaac Bruce is the manJ) Kitna is really necessary to make the Lions offense click, Johnson is a beastK) It's almost boring now to watch the Colts march up and down the field at willL) Garcia hasn't looked great, Galloway still underrated, Cadillac solidM) Miami is still learning Cameron's system...will take a while for this offense to gel, Beck is the real deal, Chatman has outplayed BrownN) Rex will once again be high risk/high reward on any given week, Benson still not that impressiveO) Leon Washington is legit, Clemens has outperformed Pennington in the preseasonP) Jones/Barber will be RBBC until an injuryQ) Tarvaris Jackson is incredibly undervalued and where did Bobby Wade come from????R) Hasselbeck to Pollard was impressive, Hasselbeck spread the ball around quite a bitS) Leftwich and WRs still trying to gel with Koetter's new offense, Northcutt is a sleeperT) Vincent Jackson was impressive, Davis not targeted at all, Gates uncoverable as usualU) Arizona pass blocking was very impressive, Leinart impressive as well, run blocking still sucks V) Quinn's accuracy appears to have improved since his ND days, Jamal Lewis has looked better than I expectedW) Cecil Sapp looked good

I agree with B, C, D, E, G, J, M, N, O, P, maybe Q, R, S, T, V and WOn the others, A - I think Jacobs showed something and will be okayF - Lynch may just be lower than ancticipated - especially if ATrain starts to produce or they decide to play Jackson or Wright who have both looked better than Thomas and Lynch, but under Jauron, they all get marked down a grade.H - hibernating - I see no signs of lifeI - at least until Holt is back to speedK - not if you own one or more of them U - Leinart and pass blocking are fine; jury still out on run blocking and unfortunately Edge who has a supposedly "slight" hamstring problem thread

 

[gheemony]

Questions:

1. What's the deal with Holt? Bennett did appear to do much in his absence. Lots of incompletes.

2. Hackett. Where has he been? I target, albeit a fade in the end zone.

Excited to see Big Ben and Holmes tonight.

 

[packersfan]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

It's a pretty safe bet that Moss or Stallworth will miss some time and it's hardly a reach to predict both will miss time. Both of them have had durability issues.

 

[LHUCKS]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

It's a pretty safe bet that Moss or Stallworth will miss some time and it's hardly a reach to predict both will miss time. Both of them have had durability issues.

I agree but I don't think that means Welker will be in on 2 WR sets...my understanding is that Gaffney is ahead Welker in that regard.

 

[packersfan]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

It's a pretty safe bet that Moss or Stallworth will miss some time and it's hardly a reach to predict both will miss time. Both of them have had durability issues.

I agree but I don't think that means Welker will in on 2 WR sets...my understanding is that Gaffney is ahead Welker in that regard.

Even if he doesn't start I'll continue to predict that Welker will prove to be the most dependable WR on the Patriots' roster. He will earn Brady's trust and that will get him targets. In a standard scoring league I wouldn't be that high on him because I don't see him being a huge source for TDs. But in a PPR league he's a very nice End Game pick. He'll cover you as a WR3 plenty of weeks during the season because Brady will look for him and he will get the ball to him. In my opinion.

 

[PahtyTom]

If 600 yards and 3 TDs is your thing, then Wes Welker is your man.

 

[LHUCKS]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

It's a pretty safe bet that Moss or Stallworth will miss some time and it's hardly a reach to predict both will miss time. Both of them have had durability issues.

I agree but I don't think that means Welker will in on 2 WR sets...my understanding is that Gaffney is ahead Welker in that regard.

Even if he doesn't start I'll continue to predict that Welker will prove to be the most dependable WR on the Patriots' roster. He will earn Brady's trust and that will get him targets. In a standard scoring league I wouldn't be that high on him because I don't see him being a huge source for TDs. But in a PPR league he's a very nice End Game pick. He'll cover you as a WR3 plenty of weeks during the season because Brady will look for him and he will get the ball to him. In my opinion.

Well it doesn't happen very often that a slot WR is a consistent fantay contributor but it has happened...Stokley is the last off the top of my head.

 

[packersfan]

I really like Welker, too, but will continue to avoid the NE wr trap at all costs. In his first preseason game, Ben Watson was targeted 5 times before the half. Just too many options...

Unless there are a rash of injuries Welker just isn't going to see enough targets to be a consistent performer in H2H formats...definitely worht a flier in deep survivors though.

It's a pretty safe bet that Moss or Stallworth will miss some time and it's hardly a reach to predict both will miss time. Both of them have had durability issues.

I agree but I don't think that means Welker will in on 2 WR sets...my understanding is that Gaffney is ahead Welker in that regard.

Even if he doesn't start I'll continue to predict that Welker will prove to be the most dependable WR on the Patriots' roster. He will earn Brady's trust and that will get him targets. In a standard scoring league I wouldn't be that high on him because I don't see him being a huge source for TDs. But in a PPR league he's a very nice End Game pick. He'll cover you as a WR3 plenty of weeks during the season because Brady will look for him and he will get the ball to him. In my opinion.

Well it doesn't happen very often that a slot WR is a consistent fantay contributor but it has happened...Stokley is the last off the top of my head.

Again, I'm talking about his value in a PPR league. Not standard scoring. As I said above I don't view him as highly in a standard scoring league. But in a PPR league he's a guy I like because I believe he will be very involved, he's in a great offense and his ADP is sweet. I can see him catching 55 passes or more this season and given where he's being drafted I think that's very nice value.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Chatman has outplayed Brown

Reading this alone discredits anything else posted to me because really this isn't even close. Have you been watching the Fins games or is this just coming from the statlines?Brown has played against 1st team defenses and looked very impressive getting what little he's gotten given the awful blocking he's had to work with. He's had no more running room than Lynch yet you're willing to give Lynch a pass while doing considerably worse (gee, I wonder why).

Chatman has come in in situations to excel (against backups or in 3rd and super-long or trick play situations) and, quite frankly, is not very good when there's not a 3-mile wide hole in front of him.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Where are X, Y & Z? I think I'm in the minority, but I don't understand the Leon Washington hype on this board. I give him credit for his 79 yard reception yesterday, but that's about the only productive play he's had all preseason. So far, 27 carries for 88 yards or slightly less than 3.3 ypc. He had a huge chance to step up for an injured Thomas Jones last night and did absolutely nothing in the run game. Aside from his big catch and TD, he has 5 receptions for 10 yards. What am I missing???

Look at Maroney's stats from last year. Then look at Washington's. Pretty similar. Washington is a great fill-in for bye weeks whether or not TJ starts. And if you really want to see Leon's potential don't look at just 1 preseason game. Look at his 2006 stats where he rushed the ball over 20 times per game. There were just 2...20 carries, 129 yards and 2 TDs vs DET23 carries, 101 yards vs JAX

 

[LHUCKS]

Reading this alone discredits anything else posted to me because really this isn't even close. Have you been watching the Fins games or is this just coming from the statlines?

I've watched every single preseason game, many of them twice.Next question?

 

[LHUCKS]

Where are X, Y & Z? I think I'm in the minority, but I don't understand the Leon Washington hype on this board. I give him credit for his 79 yard reception yesterday, but that's about the only productive play he's had all preseason. So far, 27 carries for 88 yards or slightly less than 3.3 ypc. He had a huge chance to step up for an injured Thomas Jones last night and did absolutely nothing in the run game. Aside from his big catch and TD, he has 5 receptions for 10 yards. What am I missing???

Look at Maroney's stats from last year. Then look at Washington's. Pretty similar. Washington is a great fill-in for bye weeks whether or not TJ starts. And if you really want to see Leon's potential don't look at just 1 preseason game. Look at his 2006 stats where he rushed the ball over 20 times per game. There were just 2...20 carries, 129 yards and 2 TDs vs DET23 carries, 101 yards vs JAX

 

[wildbill]

X - Where's your RB critique?

Y - Where's your WR critique?

Z - Your QB critique was over a month ago

 

[joffer]

Youngs ability to make defenders miss while he's running is mind boggling and Roydell Williams could be a steal this year

this one is interesting. with all the love Brandon Jones is getting, Williams was really an afterthought up until this week. did Jones play at all on Friday?

 

[Capella]

Garcia has looked really good for the most part.

 

[Redding]

Garcia has looked really good for the most part.

:gewdposting:

 

[Couch Potato]

Youngs ability to make defenders miss while he's running is mind boggling and Roydell Williams could be a steal this year

this one is interesting. with all the love Brandon Jones is getting, Williams was really an afterthought up until this week. did Jones play at all on Friday?

Jones played, had one target. Roydell started and went 4-68. Some of us are awaiting any news out of Tennessee this week on this development. With no clear #1, a washed-up Moulds (IMO) on the other side, and an improving 2nd year QB, Roydell could rocket up the value rankings if he is the starter.

 

[LHUCKS]

Garcia has looked really good for the most part.

:gewdposting:

My assessment is that he's looked okay, almost inconsistent. The good news is that he is a huge upgrade over Gradkowski.

 

[Christo]

Reading this alone discredits anything else posted to me because really this isn't even close. Have you been watching the Fins games or is this just coming from the statlines?

I've watched every single preseason game, many of them twice.Next question?

 

[kstockwell]

Garcia has looked really good for the most part.

I don't have an opinion on Garcia but your dancing banana is awesome! I had to watch it twice...

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Reading this alone discredits anything else posted to me because really this isn't even close. Have you been watching the Fins games or is this just coming from the statlines?

I've watched every single preseason game, many of them twice.Next question?

Good initial posting and since you've seen all of the games, any IDPs stand out or where you focusing in on offensive skill positions? Mostly interested in rookies/sleepers over proven IDP studs. Thanks in advance.

 

[Capella]

Garcia has looked really good for the most part.

I don't have an opinion on Garcia but your dancing banana is awesome! I had to watch it twice...

 

[Fodasme69]

X - Where's your RB critique?Y - Where's your WR critique?Z - Your QB critique was over a month ago