My WR Sleeper for the Year (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

 

[T Bell]

He's on both of my dynasty teams, one where I drafted him last year, and one where I just picked him up as a FA. I've got my fingers crossed.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

thx gianmarco. he wasn't on my radar before, but he is now.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

 

[gianmarco]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

 

[bcr8f]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

A sleeper with unkown upside. Doesn't that contradict what a sleeper is?

 

[MaddHatter]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

dont forget Justin McCariensbottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them. Best to avoid IMO

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Biren Ealy

Shhhhhhh.....

 

[Interseptopus]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

dont forget Justin McCariensbottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them. Best to avoid IMO

With VY projected to throw like 17 TDs this season, I highly doubt this guy will score enough to warrant a starting position on my roster, much less a bench spot even.

If anyone is worth owning on the TEN offense it's one of their TEs. I think it's absolute insanity to look to draft a WR- and the 4th down on the depth chart even!

gianmarco I'm usually pretty supportive and agree with the things you say, but this is just clear cut digging way too far, actually possibily out coaching yourself. I fell victim to something like that a couple years ago and never had good WRs because I out-thought the selection process.

This guy may end up as the 2nd or 3rd most productive WR in that offense, but that won't say much because that offense isn't very potent anyways!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Williams is an interesting sleeper to follow mainly because he had first round ability coming out Fresno State, and because he has a very fascinating backstory.

Link to a summary of the Williams family saga

He's got deceptive speed for a long strider, long arms, and an outstanding combo of leaping ability and body control... BUT the kid's dedication to the game has been questioned (hence, a first round talent becoming a third round pick to a team that is notorious for drafting based on wishful thinking). His brother died after an onfield injury left him paralyzed, and he lost both of his parents in quick succession, so you can understand his wavering dedication to the game. His senior year at Fresno St was an immense disappointment. Still, if that fire in his belly ignites, the lightbulb turns on, he gets the eye of the tiger... well, Williams could be something special.

I do agree that looking for a fantasy sleeper WR on Tennessee is probably barking up the wrong tree because of the limiting nature of their passing offense, but also feel that Williams is still a real fun sleeper to follow leaving fantasy out of the equation. We met him at the Senior Bowl and Shrine Game in 07, and he seemed like a real humble kid, the kid you have to root for after knowing what he's gone through.

 

[jurb26]

Williams is an interesting sleeper to follow mainly because he had first round ability coming out Fresno State. He's got deceptive speed for a long strider, long arms, and an outstanding combo of leaping ability and body control... BUT the kid's dedication to the game has been questioned (hence, a first round talent becoming a third round pick to a team that is notorious for drafting based on wishful thinking). His brother died after an onfield injury left his paralyzed, so you can understand his wavering dedication to the game. His senior year at Fresno St was an immense disappointment. Still, if that fire in his belly ignites, the lightbulb turns on, he gets the eye of the tiger... well, Williams could be something special.

This is spot on. Williams is an elite talent at the WR position and would have easily been a 1st round draft pick had the tragedy with his brother and a senior year injury not derailed that. I know I've stated this in other threads regarding Williams, but if he ever gets that "fire" back he could easily become the best WR on Tenn. I've targeted him on both of my dynasty leagues (drafted him in the final round in each) and I have absolutely no problem holding a guy with his ability for a few years to see if he mentally gets it together/back. Great deep sleeper option at WR.

 

[Max Power]

Biren EalyShhhhhhh.....

only has Gage and McCarins to pass for #1

 

[AB in DC]

bottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them.

Which means that if one them starts to distinguish himself, he could be the #1 WR in a hurry.That's exactly what you should be looking for in a sleeper.

 

[T Bell]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

 

[Interseptopus]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

 

[jurb26]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

 

[T Bell]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

Welcome to just about every second and third round pick you'll find. If you're trying to look smart by predicting failure, you're going to be right more than wrong. There's no sport in that, but if it makes you feel good, whatever.

 

[Max Power]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

 

[jurb26]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

 

[Interseptopus]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

So in interviews Williams has come right out and said "this is harder to get my head back in than it was when I had _______ injury"?? Because unless that is, then you can't say that it's harder or easier.Need I remind you of Brett Favre's first game after his father died a couple days earlier? Different guys lose that "fire" for whatever reason- they just got paid, injury, family, etc. Just seems like kind of ridiculous reasoning. I'd be willing to almost guarantee that this guy will never make a fantasy impact in his career with TEN

 

[benm3218]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

So in interviews Williams has come right out and said "this is harder to get my head back in than it was when I had _______ injury"?? Because unless that is, then you can't say that it's harder or easier.Need I remind you of Brett Favre's first game after his father died a couple days earlier? Different guys lose that "fire" for whatever reason- they just got paid, injury, family, etc. Just seems like kind of ridiculous reasoning. I'd be willing to almost guarantee that this guy will never make a fantasy impact in his career with TEN

What a BOLD prediction! You are like a Nostradamus or something!He could be a good sleeper, I wil however point to Ron Mexico's post on Ealy. I don'r know why as I have not seen him in practice this year or last, but Ealy is getting tons of love from the Titans Insiders. The Titan's are vastly misunderstood by most of the football world and small time fantasy junkies as well. They get the knock that they do not pass and do not need a number 1 receiver and that VY is not a passer yada yada yada.The Titans run and play defense GREAT, so they will nor OVERSPEND on a receiver. There is a huge difference between overspending on a receiver that is just not crucial to your success and utilizing one you have already or can get for cheap.Fisher is not an idiot. If he sees something in Paul Williams, Mike Williams (my sleeper), or Ealy - he will use it. Paul WIlliams is a good sleeper, but as a big time Titan fan I have to tell you that you need to watch Ealy as well.

 

[jurb26]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

So in interviews Williams has come right out and said "this is harder to get my head back in than it was when I had _______ injury"?? Because unless that is, then you can't say that it's harder or easier.Need I remind you of Brett Favre's first game after his father died a couple days earlier? Different guys lose that "fire" for whatever reason- they just got paid, injury, family, etc. Just seems like kind of ridiculous reasoning. I'd be willing to almost guarantee that this guy will never make a fantasy impact in his career with TEN

Everyone should be like Favre.

 

[Raiders]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I'll make a mental note of it, Gianmarco, but I'm also very interested in seeing what McCareins brings to the team, he had decent success with the Titans before being traded to the Jets. Vince is no McNair, but if he improves, I suppose one receiver from the team will be worth having

 

[broncofan13000]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

So in interviews Williams has come right out and said "this is harder to get my head back in than it was when I had _______ injury"?? Because unless that is, then you can't say that it's harder or easier.Need I remind you of Brett Favre's first game after his father died a couple days earlier? Different guys lose that "fire" for whatever reason- they just got paid, injury, family, etc. Just seems like kind of ridiculous reasoning. I'd be willing to almost guarantee that this guy will never make a fantasy impact in his career with TEN

What a BOLD prediction! You are like a Nostradamus or something!He could be a good sleeper, I wil however point to Ron Mexico's post on Ealy. I don'r know why as I have not seen him in practice this year or last, but Ealy is getting tons of love from the Titans Insiders. The Titan's are vastly misunderstood by most of the football world and small time fantasy junkies as well. They get the knock that they do not pass and do not need a number 1 receiver and that VY is not a passer yada yada yada.The Titans run and play defense GREAT, so they will nor OVERSPEND on a receiver. There is a huge difference between overspending on a receiver that is just not crucial to your success and utilizing one you have already or can get for cheap.Fisher is not an idiot. If he sees something in Paul Williams, Mike Williams (my sleeper), or Ealy - he will use it. Paul WIlliams is a good sleeper, but as a big time Titan fan I have to tell you that you need to watch Ealy as well.

Just took a flier on Ealy as well in a recent rookie draft (12.10 IDP) ... He looks to be the third WR on the Titans right now, and is a big kid. Anyone know more on him?

 

[Max Power]

He was a sleeper at this point last year too. Not to knock your call or anything, but remember Tyrone Calico? I waited on him for entirely too long and would rather take a flier on someone like Earl Bennett or Antonio Bryant at this point.

He was a raw rookie last year, which was understood coming in. Anyone counting on him to produce in 2007 was in fantasyland. As for Calico, if the lesson here is that athleticism is no guarantee of ultimately developing into a good WR, I doubt that's a shock to anyone involved in this discussion.

I remember when "they" were calling Calico the next Terrell Owens- was raw but was built almost like a clone. Actually, that was almost word for word what was said.No surprise on Calico. Personally, I feel that WRs are not QBs- you cannot groom a WR. Either they make it or they don't.Seems like the argument for this guy is that "if he gets the fire back". Yeah, well the same can be said about a ton of WRs in the league...

A ton of WRs had their brother die from a football related injury? Right.....

I don't understand your comment here... Are you implying that this makes it easier or harder to get his head back in it?

I'd say it makes it a great deal harder, wouldn't you? It's been documented that this is the case in interviews and such.

So in interviews Williams has come right out and said "this is harder to get my head back in than it was when I had _______ injury"?? Because unless that is, then you can't say that it's harder or easier.Need I remind you of Brett Favre's first game after his father died a couple days earlier? Different guys lose that "fire" for whatever reason- they just got paid, injury, family, etc. Just seems like kind of ridiculous reasoning. I'd be willing to almost guarantee that this guy will never make a fantasy impact in his career with TEN

What a BOLD prediction! You are like a Nostradamus or something!He could be a good sleeper, I wil however point to Ron Mexico's post on Ealy. I don'r know why as I have not seen him in practice this year or last, but Ealy is getting tons of love from the Titans Insiders. The Titan's are vastly misunderstood by most of the football world and small time fantasy junkies as well. They get the knock that they do not pass and do not need a number 1 receiver and that VY is not a passer yada yada yada.The Titans run and play defense GREAT, so they will nor OVERSPEND on a receiver. There is a huge difference between overspending on a receiver that is just not crucial to your success and utilizing one you have already or can get for cheap.Fisher is not an idiot. If he sees something in Paul Williams, Mike Williams (my sleeper), or Ealy - he will use it. Paul WIlliams is a good sleeper, but as a big time Titan fan I have to tell you that you need to watch Ealy as well.

Just took a flier on Ealy as well in a recent rookie draft (12.10 IDP) ... He looks to be the third WR on the Titans right now, and is a big kid. Anyone know more on him?

Someone posted once that he was invited to camp on a request made by Vince Young. He made the team from there and has looked very good in practice since. His college stats don't look good mainly due to a transfer, injury and suspension.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

bottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them.

Which means that if one them starts to distinguish himself, he could be the #1 WR in a hurry.That's exactly what you should be looking for in a sleeper.

and sometimes sleepers never wake up

 

[chook]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

 

[Yu Fring Puandpi]

Mike Walker

 

[gianmarco]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

dont forget Justin McCariensbottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them. Best to avoid IMO

With VY projected to throw like 17 TDs this season, I highly doubt this guy will score enough to warrant a starting position on my roster, much less a bench spot even.

If anyone is worth owning on the TEN offense it's one of their TEs. I think it's absolute insanity to look to draft a WR- and the 4th down on the depth chart even!

gianmarco I'm usually pretty supportive and agree with the things you say, but this is just clear cut digging way too far, actually possibily out coaching yourself. I fell victim to something like that a couple years ago and never had good WRs because I out-thought the selection process.

This guy may end up as the 2nd or 3rd most productive WR in that offense, but that won't say much because that offense isn't very potent anyways!

Hey WF,Thanks for the kind words. I wouldn't go so far as to call this clear cut digging. I'm usually not one to pimp guys that aren't on people's radars simply for the sake of doing it. The guy is a longshot for sure. I did find it odd, however, that some people know little to nothing about him and that was part of the reason of this post.

Most rosters simply aren't large enough to stash guys like him. At the same time, there's usually room for 1 or 2 guys like a Paul Williams that can be had very cheap and you can hold onto. His price is virtually 0 as I'm sure he's even on most WW. Chances are he doesn't do much but at the same time, this guy is more talented, IMO, than a lot of guys that are available on a WW. There aren't usually many WR's drafted as high as this guy that are available for peanuts. I'm sure we could have a thread like this about virtually anybody in the league with 1 or 2 fans that think he's the real deal. I'm not even gonna go that far but more just keep him on your radar if you like. If not, no big deal. I am glad that it has sparked a little discussion which is good.

 

[Bob Magaw]

tragic story about his late brother (who reportedly was the best prospect & probably would have made it to the NFL before paul)... i don't know why (probably because it resonated with something in my life), but i kept a newspaper clipping on my computer desk for a while, about how he was doing OK & his brother was taking care of him... it was saddening to hear that he passed...

i think i read in an interwiew with paul that he almost quit, but his brother talked him out of it...

agree with what several people said, he could be a hidden gem if the light goes on, but has to be considered a longshot given the murky pass game (like the fact that dinger oversaw some of air mcnair's best years, & mcnair & VY have some obvious similarities, running & passing)...

at least williams won't cost much if you want to take a flyer... & you probably can't get much for him if you have him, so that probably recommends keeping him (unless you have something better)...

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

 

[FUBAR]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

dont forget Justin McCariensbottom line really is that the Titan WR's are not going to be that producive anyway. There is alot of them and there is no real difference between them. Best to avoid IMO

Why are we forgetting Crumpler and Scaife?Let's see, Crumpler, Gage, Roydell, McCareins, Jones, Scaife, CJ3, Ealy, Williams, Williams...

I'm all for calling your sleepers, but the guy, at least in the short term, is no better than the 7th passing target. The Titans will (most likely) continue to run ~55% of their plays. You go ahead and take him in the hopes that he breaks out. I'll go after sleeper WRs on offenses that like to throw.

FWIW, I think the guy has talent, but a lot of guys out there, under the radar, do.

 

[Big_Russel]

Williams has all the talent in the world, but he is soft and has a very poor work ethic. Couple that with the fact that he plays for Tenny, and his immediate future looks bleak.

That's not to say that I don't think he has the potential to find success in the NFL, just not this season, and probably not for Tenny.

Alge Crumpler is the man there this year. That's your sleeper receiving option on the Titans. You can land him in the 10th/11th round and he has top 5 TE upside. A serious value pick.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Williams is an interesting sleeper to follow mainly because he had first round ability coming out Fresno State. He's got deceptive speed for a long strider, long arms, and an outstanding combo of leaping ability and body control... BUT the kid's dedication to the game has been questioned (hence, a first round talent becoming a third round pick to a team that is notorious for drafting based on wishful thinking). His brother died after an onfield injury left his paralyzed, so you can understand his wavering dedication to the game. His senior year at Fresno St was an immense disappointment. Still, if that fire in his belly ignites, the lightbulb turns on, he gets the eye of the tiger... well, Williams could be something special.

This is spot on. Williams is an elite talent at the WR position and would have easily been a 1st round draft pick had the tragedy with his brother and a senior year injury not derailed that. I know I've stated this in other threads regarding Williams, but if he ever gets that "fire" back he could easily become the best WR on Tenn. I've targeted him on both of my dynasty leagues (drafted him in the final round in each) and I have absolutely no problem holding a guy with his ability for a few years to see if he mentally gets it together/back. Great deep sleeper option at WR.

Scouts questioned his desire to play football. Here's the first thing I found on a google and it's old, but it verifies my concerns at one time because scouts worried about his desire. However he disputes it. Paul Williams interview from 2007

 

[Tau837]

Most rosters simply aren't large enough to stash guys like him. At the same time, there's usually room for 1 or 2 guys like a Paul Williams that can be had very cheap and you can hold onto.

I think this is the rub. I play in the MOX VI league - 14 teams; 20 man rosters; start 2 RBs, 2 WRs, and 2 flex, with TEs treated the same as WRs. Having taken over a team that was in bad shape, most of my flyers are by necessity at the RB position. My WRs/TEs are Andre Johnson, Porter, Cooley, Bryant Johnson, Battle, Hester, and Meacham. I have 8 RBs: Grant, Deangelo Williams, Ahman Green, Chris Brown, Calhoun, Pittman, Mewelde Moore, and Wynn. The other players are the mandatory kicker and defense and 3 QBs (McNabb, Anderson, Clemens).How many of those guys are worth dropping for a guy like Williams? You could argue that I'm holding a few guys not likely to be worth much. But I think the WRs I am holding are all likely to be more valuable than Williams, and if we start talking RBs, we're bringing in positional needs and roster philosophy.On top of this, my team has 5 picks between 1.9 and 2.6 in the upcoming rookie draft - if I make all the picks, I already have to cut 5 players. Where would Paul Williams merit slotting into the rookie draft? That is, is he worth more than the rookies available at 1.9? I don't think so. The rookies available at 2.6? More possible, but I doubt it.So I guess he may have value in dynasty leagues with larger rosters, but I don't see it in my situation.

 

[T Bell]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

Not only that, but Vince Young is the best QB in the NFL at throwing to invisible receivers.

 

[Colin Dowling]

WIlliams has three issues to overcome: 1. Himself. 2. The other WRs that are on the field. 3. THe Titans offense.

He may develop in to their best WR, play nearly every snap, and lead the team in all receiving categories...and still only go for 60/700/5.

 

[tombonneau]

Williams has all the talent in the world, but he is soft and has a very poor work ethic. Couple that with the fact that he plays for Tenny, and his immediate future looks bleak.

That's not to say that I don't think he has the potential to find success in the NFL, just not this season, and probably not for Tenny.

Alge Crumpler is the man there this year. That's your sleeper receiving option on the Titans. You can land him in the 10th/11th round and he has top 5 TE upside. A serious value pick.

This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this thread. Crumpler will be great value as a TE2 this year. Best part is, if your TE1 pans out and Crumpler is producing, he's the perfect player you draft late and then trade to a TE-needy team after a few weeks and get some great ROI on a late round pick.

 

[shader]

Ok, if you want to ask someone about a Titans player, ask me.

As such, if you consider drafting Paul Williams this year, you need your head examined.

The only caveat would be if you are a big believer in him and his ability, are in a very deep league, and understand that it won't happen THIS year.

If you want a sleeper, look at Justin Gage. Everyone discounts him, but forgets that he basically didn't play the first 8 games of the year. Take his second half of 07 and extrapolate that to the entire season. (527 and 2 TD's)

Add to that Dinger and his penchant for NOT rotating WR's, and I think we'll see 1100 yards and 6-8 TD's for Gage.

 

[DropKick]

Gianmarco,

I consider it a crime against mankind to criticize someone's sleeper picks, especially when they meet the true meaning of the word "sleeper".

That being said, you will find little love for Titan WRs given the long grey line of Tennessee WRs who teased, floundered or just never were.

Nevertheless, I'll root for Mr. Williams and watch the box scores. I'm sure he'll be available on my waiver.

 

[Turbo]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

The catch and run at the 1 minute mark made me LOL.

 

[Dirty Hairy]

Maybe the play is for Paul to be cut and picked up by the Browns, who deperately need WRs.

I view all the TEN WR as good dynasty plays hoping they leave TEN.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Paul William's Fresno State Highlights

Recently talked about him with another FF member and after watching this again, remembered why I'm high on him. The guy reminds me of a cross between Boldin/Marshall. Obviously, those are 2 super talented WR's and I don't know if he'll ever reach anything close to that level, but that's just a comparison I see in terms of style.

Things I like about him and his situation right now

1. Was a 3rd round pick last year. Granted, he was picked by Tenn who have had a horrible track record lately in terms of scouting, but there wasn't nearly as much talk of a reach in 2007 on him as their other picks. When you consider he came from a small school (Fresno St.) and he put up very mediocre/poor #'s his last year, the scouts had to base their high pick on something else (i.e., the eyeball test).

2. As he didn't play last year and is on almost no one's radar, he's about as cheap as they come right now.

3. He's a WR in Tennessee. Essentially, he has little to no competition to move up and get playing time. Doesn't mean he will, but if they do like him and he is as talented as I think he is, then he'll work his way up.

4. I think the Tenn offense is going to improve significantly from last year with some of the coaching changes. The passing game in town does not look like a place for fantasy production, but I think that may change soon.

So, to me, he adds up to an ideal stash as a sleeper even though his upside still remains to be seen.

Justin Gage, Roydell Williams

, and now Chris Johnson on a team that isn't pass happy to begin with...where is the big upside here?

Did you list those 2 with a straight face as a reason why he can't make an impact?

Probably more of a straight face than you claiming Paul Williams was a sleeper, let alone beat those two out for playing time.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

Not only that, but Vince Young is the best QB in the NFL at throwing to invisible receivers.

How are invisible TD's scored in FF?

 

[FUBAR]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

Not only that, but Vince Young is the best QB in the NFL at throwing to invisible receivers.

How are invisible TD's scored in FF?

About the same as TDs that get dropped. If Paul Williams can actually catch a ball in the end zone, he might become the best sleeper this year, nobody else on that team can.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I'm a big Fresno St. fan and have seen him play a lot. He has great talent size and speed, but he has dificulty getting off of the line and trying to get open. He would literaly disappear at times his Senior year.

Wow. This ability to turn invisible could prove invaluable to the Titans, were Williams able to magically reappear in the endzone for the TD catch.

The whole invisible thing will be a staple of the Titan playbook.(1) They'll line Paul and Mike Williams side by side

(2) Mike will eat Paul before the snap and #### him out in the endzone.

Not only that, but Vince Young is the best QB in the NFL at throwing to invisible receivers.

How are invisible TD's scored in FF?

About the same as TDs that get dropped. If Paul Williams can actually catch a ball in the end zone, he might become the best sleeper this year, nobody else on that team can.

The assumption you're making is that they would...A) Throw the ball

B) If they throw the ball, throw the ball in the RedZone

C) Throw it to their own WR

D) Then Complete it for a TD

Isn't that asking alot for the Titans? At least not in Madden and in the real NFL?