*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (7 Viewers)

[biggamer3]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

 

[biggamer3]

And Melo cost me 100 bucks, congrats juxt!

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

 

[DrJ]

McDermott looked tremendous today. Embarrassing how loaded the Bulls are up front. Hell of an offseason for them (Adding Gasol + Mirotic + IMO one of the best 5 or 6 players in the draft in McDermott).

Absolutely love what they did (vs. having Carmelo swallow up all their cap space)

Doug McDermott - F - Bulls

Doug McDermott needed just 12 shots from the field to score 31 points vs. the Nuggets on Sunday, adding one rebound, one assist, one block and five 3-pointers.

He made all 12 shots from the line and made 7-of-12 from the field for a spectacular true shooting percentage of 89.7 percent. The Bulls have an absolutely loaded front line with the additions of Pau Gasol and Nikola Mirotic. McDermott is really going to have be able to play both forwards spots to get consistent minutes.

31/1/1? Sounds like the next Kiki Vandeweghe.

A few more turnovers and he might even be Kobe.

 

[pollardsvision]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

 

[scoobus]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

Besides Wes Johnson.

 

[biggamer3]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

which team has cap space to give Monroe 13+ a year? Only way to get an RFA is incredibly overpay, but I think Monroe is better than his stats

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

Besides Wes Johnson.

Of course.

 

[culdeus]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

 

[pollardsvision]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

I'm starting to think that maybe Morey just thinks that Parsons sucks and wanted to sucker a rival into burning cap space on him. Because that's about the only way this makes any sense.

The original reason was apparently that Morey coveted Parsons so much that he didn't want to risk loseing him next year. Presumably, because rivals would be so enamored they'd throw a monster contract at Parsons. But if that's the case, then obviously, DAL's offer this year was no surprise.

 

[pollardsvision]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

which team has cap space to give Monroe 13+ a year? Only way to get an RFA is incredibly overpay, but I think Monroe is better than his stats

I think PHX and DET could get pretty lucky here.

I'm not sure who has the cap space to make those offers. CHA and HOU both have a little but not enough offers to truly piss PHX and DET off. ATL has a bunch of space still, I think, but they'd only maybe be in play for Bledsoe.

Then there are teams that aren't trying to win (Utah, PHI), but they probably don't want to risk getting any good players and losing up their ability to eat contracts.

 

[Abraham]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

Morey was on Houston radio this morning and said a couple things about Parsons. first, he said that if they had matched then that means the core if Harden, Howard and Parsons and all flexibility is gone. Said that the Parsons deal is "the most untradeable contract I've ever seen."

Then he said, "To win a title you have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that gives him a max deal."

 

[Todem]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

Should have just kept reading. I think Monroe is a wild card still for several teams out there.

 

[Slapdash]

Yeah, the Parsons thing only makes sense if the Rockets don't really rate him. If you don't want to go all in with Harden and Howard, when are you ever?

 

[Todem]

They blew it with Parsons. How do you not exercise that team option.

How???

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

Morey was on Houston radio this morning and said a couple things about Parsons. first, he said that if they had matched then that means the core if Harden, Howard and Parsons and all flexibility is gone. Said that the Parsons deal is "the most untradeable contract I've ever seen."

Then he said, "To win a title you have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that gives him a max deal."

Says the guy who gave Jeremy Lin $25M and had to give up a 1st to get rid of him.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

I was about to say that they don't really count because there is no way they don't get matched. But then I remembered. Detroit.

 

[Slapdash]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

which team has cap space to give Monroe 13+ a year? Only way to get an RFA is incredibly overpay, but I think Monroe is better than his stats

I think PHX and DET could get pretty lucky here.

I'm not sure who has the cap space to make those offers. CHA and HOU both have a little but not enough offers to truly piss PHX and DET off. ATL has a bunch of space still, I think, but they'd only maybe be in play for Bledsoe.

Then there are teams that aren't trying to win (Utah, PHI), but they probably don't want to risk getting any good players and losing up their ability to eat contracts.

Charlotte would have to move a contract or two (Hendo) to make a max offer, right?

 

[thecatch]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

Morey was on Houston radio this morning and said a couple things about Parsons. first, he said that if they had matched then that means the core if Harden, Howard and Parsons and all flexibility is gone. Said that the Parsons deal is "the most untradeable contract I've ever seen."

Then he said, "To win a title you have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that gives him a max deal."

Did he address why they declined his $900k option in the first place? That's still the only thing doesn't make sense to me.

 

[thecatch]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

Morey was on Houston radio this morning and said a couple things about Parsons. first, he said that if they had matched then that means the core if Harden, Howard and Parsons and all flexibility is gone. Said that the Parsons deal is "the most untradeable contract I've ever seen."

Then he said, "To win a title you have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that gives him a max deal."

Says the guy who gave Jeremy Lin $25M and had to give up a 1st to get rid of him.

Well, he was able to trade it...

 

[pollardsvision]

Stephenson the only impact guy left in FA?

There's the Bledsoe and Monroe RFA situations to deal with.

which team has cap space to give Monroe 13+ a year? Only way to get an RFA is incredibly overpay, but I think Monroe is better than his stats

I think PHX and DET could get pretty lucky here.

I'm not sure who has the cap space to make those offers. CHA and HOU both have a little but not enough offers to truly piss PHX and DET off. ATL has a bunch of space still, I think, but they'd only maybe be in play for Bledsoe.

Then there are teams that aren't trying to win (Utah, PHI), but they probably don't want to risk getting any good players and losing up their ability to eat contracts.

Charlotte would have to move a contract or two (Hendo) to make a max offer, right?

They have $12 mill in space at the moment, so yeah.

I guess it's possible IND might be interested in taking Hendo back with a Lance deal. That won't excite fans, I'm sure, it's not like they can just go sign a Lance replacement. Hendo's a solid player on a reasonable deal, and it's better than starting Donald Sloan at SG when you apparently have Title aspirations.

Not that there's much reason to think CHA really has any interest in Lance.

 

[Abraham]

They blew it with Parsons. How do you not exercise that team option.

How???

I agree. In hindsight it makes no sense. So you lose him next summer when someone offers a lot more than you do. So be it. For a guy that talks about assets and flexibility, he really bungled this. The whole point appears to be so they could get a max guy and keep parsons. But if Lebron stays in Miami there are essentially no max guys to get this summer.

The only way it makes any sense at all is if morey thought the market for parsons would top out in the same range as what they gave Ariza. And even then it doesn't make much sense.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Morey took a risk, and it backfired. Definitely looks bad, but had they got Bosh they would be perhaps the favorite.

Props for not panicking and letting Parsons walk.

 

[Abraham]

A trade exception doesn't create more room, does it? For example, the team can't use its remaninig 10 mil in cap space PLUS the Lin trade exception to make room for Love, can it?

Still hoping they can land Ryan Anderson. Would be a great choice.

 

[pollardsvision]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

 

[culdeus]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Unreal how bad Morey's offseason has gone. Allows Parsons to be an RFA instead of the one million team option for this year. Everyone knew Parsons was going to get above 12 million on a contract since there were a dearth of free agents, was Houston really that surprised he got a max deal?

Also that Lin trade makes no sense considering they lost depth and a draft pick for no reason. If bosh was verbally committed then do the deal, not sure why he jumped the gun.

I also thought they should have gone gung ho after Pau for like 3/33 after losing Bosh, not sure why they didn't even attempt to go after him, he fits then perfectly

Abraham on suicide watch?

Morey was on Houston radio this morning and said a couple things about Parsons. first, he said that if they had matched then that means the core if Harden, Howard and Parsons and all flexibility is gone. Said that the Parsons deal is "the most untradeable contract I've ever seen."

Then he said, "To win a title you have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that gives him a max deal."

The folly isn't the not matching, it was not exercising the $1m option for this season if you knew you weren't matching a market deal.

 

[Abraham]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

If they sign Bosh, they can go over the cap to match the Parsons deal and have 2 (or 3) seasons of Harden, Howard, parsons, and Bosh. That's as good of a core as you will find in the NBA. The cap space for matching parsons was essentially "free."

 

[thecatch]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

He's averaged about 49 wins a year (excluding the lockout year) all while completely rebuilding his team on the fly, and was a Chris Bosh signature away from being a co-favorite to win the title this year. That is incredibly hard to do in the NBA.

 

[thecatch]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

If they sign Bosh, they can go over the cap to match the Parsons deal and have 2 (or 3) seasons of Harden, Howard, parsons, and Bosh. That's as good of a core as you will find in the NBA. The cap space for matching parsons was essentially "free."

I don't think that addresses his question. They would have had Parson's bird rights next year too unless I'm mistaken.

 

[pollardsvision]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

If they sign Bosh, they can go over the cap to match the Parsons deal and have 2 (or 3) seasons of Harden, Howard, parsons, and Bosh. That's as good of a core as you will find in the NBA. The cap space for matching parsons was essentially "free."

Right, but it seems this swing for fences plan only makes any sense if you can't offer Bosh a max without declining Parsons' option, and you can if you do decline it.

On such a dirt cheap contract, it's just hard to imagine that's the case.

Hell, was the cap hold even cheaper than the contract itself?

I'm genuinely asking here, but I don't see what it was that made opting out of Parson's final year the key to offering Bosh a max (as much as I love making fun of Morey, I do understand that he's indeed a smarter GM than me).

 

[Cliff Clavin]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

If they sign Bosh, they can go over the cap to match the Parsons deal and have 2 (or 3) seasons of Harden, Howard, parsons, and Bosh. That's as good of a core as you will find in the NBA. The cap space for matching parsons was essentially "free."

And they could have re-signed him next year as an FA and gone over the cap.

ETA: And if someone else offered him too much next year, they could have done a sign and trade for another asset.

 

[B-Deep]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

He's averaged about 49 wins a year (excluding the lockout year) all while completely rebuilding his team on the fly, and was a Chris Bosh signature away from being a co-favorite to win the title this year. That is incredibly hard to do in the NBA.

well the Wizards were a Lebron James signature from being a contender

 

[Premier]

How about Parsons going from 900k to 15M this year. I mean, good God.

 

[Todem]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

He's averaged about 49 wins a year (excluding the lockout year) all while completely rebuilding his team on the fly, and was a Chris Bosh signature away from being a co-favorite to win the title this year. That is incredibly hard to do in the NBA.

well the Wizards were a Lebron James signature from being a contender

I think every team is.

 

[Todem]

How about Parsons going from 900k to 15M this year. I mean, good God.

Only in America (and the NBA). And a huge front office fumble by the Rockets.

 

[B-Deep]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

He's averaged about 49 wins a year (excluding the lockout year) all while completely rebuilding his team on the fly, and was a Chris Bosh signature away from being a co-favorite to win the title this year. That is incredibly hard to do in the NBA.

well the Wizards were a Lebron James signature from being a contender

I think every team is.

every GM was one signature from being a genius

 

[pollardsvision]

Morey has been there for 7 seasons and has 1 playoff series victory right? And why is he given the benefit of the doubt. That's Jerry Jones territory right there, and even has the nice feature of watching two of your division mates win titles while you are in charge.

He's averaged about 49 wins a year (excluding the lockout year) all while completely rebuilding his team on the fly, and was a Chris Bosh signature away from being a co-favorite to win the title this year. That is incredibly hard to do in the NBA.

And in the West too. There's really no getting around that he's been a good GM.

He's kind of the Tin Cup of GM's.

 

[DrJ]

See, Morey knew that James Harden and Dwight Howard were good. You can't say that for a lot of GM's.

 

[Short Corner]

McDermott looked tremendous today. Embarrassing how loaded the Bulls are up front. Hell of an offseason for them (Adding Gasol + Mirotic + IMO one of the best 5 or 6 players in the draft in McDermott).

Absolutely love what they did (vs. having Carmelo swallow up all their cap space)

Doug McDermott - F - Bulls

Doug McDermott needed just 12 shots from the field to score 31 points vs. the Nuggets on Sunday, adding one rebound, one assist, one block and five 3-pointers.

He made all 12 shots from the line and made 7-of-12 from the field for a spectacular true shooting percentage of 89.7 percent. The Bulls have an absolutely loaded front line with the additions of Pau Gasol and Nikola Mirotic. McDermott is really going to have be able to play both forwards spots to get consistent minutes.

31/1/1? Sounds like the next Kiki Vandeweghe.

A few more turnovers and he might even be Kobe.

that and about 20 more FGAs

 

[Todem]

Ok...so I had a weekend to let all of this sink in. Have listened to countless sports talk shows in the car driving around, countless takes, blah blah.

Make no mistake. This is not about titles (plural) anymore for Lebron. He has made a huge pivot about his "Legacy". If he can deliver just one title to the city of Cleveland he will forever be a legend there.

Forever


But he has a huge task on his hands. He knows it himself:

I’m not promising a championship. I know how hard that is to deliver. We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested. I know that. I’m going into a situation with a young team and a new coach. I will be the old head. But I get a thrill out of bringing a group together and helping them reach a place they didn’t know they could go. I see myself as a mentor now and I’m excited to lead some of these talented young guys. I think I can help Kyrie Irving become one of the best point guards in our league. I think I can help elevate Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters. And I can’t wait to reunite with Anderson Varejao, one of my favorite teammates.

So for the last time as a die hard life long Heat fan...Good luck Lebron. We loved you while your wore our jersey, we loved you for the 2 titles you were so critical in helping bring our team...but now your not here and we want nothing more than to beat you. Good luck in Cleveland, I am glad your able to "go home" and I (and plenty of long time Heat fans) respect that decision. It was a man's decision. Your family always comes first. It takes a man to walk away from 4 straight title appearances to try and go home and just bring one to his hometown.

As a long time observer of the NBA he has a huge challenge here. It is all hopes and dreams right now. No proven battle tested players. That includes Kyrie Irving, and that includes a Kevin Love (can he really defend?) if they are able to land him. Wiggins looks like he can be special (as well as Kyrie), but we all know how rookies can either be boom or bust. It happens so often. He will never, ever have another wing man like he did with Wade those last 4 years. And a big like Bosh who created that space and defended the pick and roll like a stud.

Ever


The only thing that is really a let down for us Heat fans is we always knew Lebron was not going to retire here. We knew that from day one. But we always thought we would enjoy his game for 5-6 years easy. This was a little abrupt. And to leave after we went down 4-1.....feels kinda small and kinda like I quit and don't believe in my teammates anymore. It just does. I know he flat out denies that in his fantastic letter. But just saying...it feels weak. I just don't see Magic, Bird or Jordan ever doing that. You do what the Spurs did. You come back, you get better and you take what you believe should be yours. Does he leave if they win a 3rd straight? Does he leave if they lose in 6 or seven games? Does he....

But again. If he really wants to "go home" it is what it is.

Good luck (well not really).

On to the 2014/15 season. A wide open Eastern Conference indeed!

GO HEAT!!!!!

 

[DrJ]

Now Todem sounds like a Cavaliers fan from 4 years ago.

 

[Kev4029]

What exactly was the effect of this on how much they could offer Bosh?

I get that it's great to swing for the fences with Bosh and sometimes you miss, but was Parsons' $900K really standing in the way of offering Bosh a max? I mean, he had $3 mill worth of salary that he could've dumped in 2 seconds with Jones and Donuts to make a Big 5 happen.

I'm just a simpleton, so what was Morey seeing here that I can't?

If they sign Bosh, they can go over the cap to match the Parsons deal and have 2 (or 3) seasons of Harden, Howard, parsons, and Bosh. That's as good of a core as you will find in the NBA. The cap space for matching parsons was essentially "free."

Right, but it seems this swing for fences plan only makes any sense if you can't offer Bosh a max without declining Parsons' option, and you can if you do decline it.

On such a dirt cheap contract, it's just hard to imagine that's the case.

Hell, was the cap hold even cheaper than the contract itself?

I'm genuinely asking here, but I don't see what it was that made opting out of Parson's final year the key to offering Bosh a max (as much as I love making fun of Morey, I do understand that he's indeed a smarter GM than me).

His cap hold after they exercised their option was a couple hundred thousand dollars less than his salary would have been, I believe, but it is pretty negligible, and was certainly not the reason to make him a free agent.

 

[Todem]

Now Todem sounds like a Cavaliers fan from 4 years ago.

No....we are not burning jerseys, crying and wailing like life is over. Please. We knew this day was going to come...just not after his first 4 years here. Especially after all the success we had.

And yeah he quit on the Cav's after 7 years of not getting it done. But he left a 4 time Finals team.

HUGE DIFFERENCE.

 

[DrJ]

And yes - he pretty much quit on his team in these finals. He couldn't wait to get out the door. It wasn't quite as bad as when he quit against the Mavericks, that had to be one of the worst finals performances ever for a guy that's a top 10 talent of all time. This year wasn't that bad, but it was pretty bad. Lebron lacks some heart, which will keep him from ever being as good as Jordan. I said this during the playoffs and half of you guys threw tantrums. But hey, you guys had some fun.

 

[Short Corner]

And yes - he pretty much quit on his team in these finals. He couldn't wait to get out the door. It wasn't quite as bad as when he quit against the Mavericks, that had to be one of the worst finals performances ever for a guy that's a top 10 talent of all time. This year wasn't that bad, but it was pretty bad. Lebron lacks some heart, which will keep him from ever being as good as Jordan. I said this during the playoffs and half of you guys threw tantrums. But hey, you guys had some fun.

 

[Kev4029]

Morey took a risk, and it backfired. Definitely looks bad, but had they got Bosh they would be perhaps the favorite.

Props for not panicking and letting Parsons walk.

They could have not taken the risk, still had Parsons, and if they got Bosh they would have been perhaps the favorite.

 

[DCThunder]

For you guys who watched the Nets a lot, does Paul Pierce have anything left?

I'm not that unhappy that the Wiz didn't break the bank to resign Ariza if Pierce can still play and Otto Porter can develop. A rotation of Pierce, Porter and Webster (when he comes back from his surgery) at the SF wouldn't be bad with Wall, Beal, Nene and the Polish Machine.

 

[DrJ]

And yeah - it was basically the same deal as what he did to Cleveland the first time in a lot of ways. You knew that he was leaving based on the way he acted on the court - it was plain as day. These moments, and he has quite a few of them now, are giant stains on his resume.

 

[B-Deep]

For you guys who watched the Nets a lot, does Paul Pierce have anything left?

I'm not that unhappy that the Wiz didn't break the bank to resign Ariza if Pierce can still play and Otto Porter can develop. A rotation of Pierce, Porter and Webster (when he comes back from his surgery) at the SF wouldn't be bad with Wall, Beal, Nene and the Polish Machine.

if paul pierce has nothing left there's always the chance god touches him again and gives him some more gas in the tank

he has s history of the hand of god making him recover