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4/48 = third or fourth best player. Not a terrible deal at all.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
You're insane if you think the Grizzlies are going to miss the play offs barring unforseen injuries.
You guys know LeaguePass Broadband is free until like November 4th, yeah? Watch any game you want.
cliff could have made the title of this thread about Anthony Davis. But as always, he wants to discuss the Lakers.
Yup, thought about mentioning this. And I bet at least half the regulars in here have league pass anyway. But people always gravitate towards the national games- even if you're not watching those games that's what twitter and sportswriters and whatnot are focusing on.
I think insane might be a little strong, here.
the day he leaves i will be pulling for them againPlease don't come back.
FYP.
I'd be a fan of title like "Kobe in mid season chucker form already"
Still enough space next year to offer a max to whomever wants to move to a small market team.4/48 = third or fourth best player. Not a terrible deal at all.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
Really? What's the deal with that? I've really only used it to watch Wolves games (by signing up under a VPN to make them think I live in CA instead of MN to avoid blackouts).
Going? Wouldn't miss this one for the world....gonna be awesome! Me and my little dude are making our way uptown for it.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
Going? Wouldn't miss this one for the world....gonna be awesome! Me and my little dude are making our way uptown for it.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
Psyched for you guys. Returning to relevance after many years of awful basketball is fun as hell. Charlotte kind of got robbed of the experience because they didn't push over .500 until April, and that was followed immediately by drawing the Heat in the first round and Jefferson's foot injury. Hope the vibe is awesome tonight.
Really? What's the deal with that? I've really only used it to watch Wolves games (by signing up under a VPN to make them think I live in CA instead of MN to avoid blackouts).
Going? Wouldn't miss this one for the world....gonna be awesome! Me and my little dude are making our way uptown for it.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
I hope Born Ready continues to get better and crazier.
Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.I think insane might be a little strong, here.
And lots of teams they edged out got better.
I think they'll probably make it, but they're pretty far from a lock when the teams they're trying to hold off are pretty stacked, too.
I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
17 shot attempts isn't exactly "chucking" by Kobe standards.
Good point, I was thinking more along the lines of his horrible 35.3 FG% making him a chucker last night.And he did have the most attempts by a Laker.
If everyone stays healthy, I'm looking for 50 wins...that's right FIFTY!!!!Going? Wouldn't miss this one for the world....gonna be awesome! Me and my little dude are making our way uptown for it.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
I can appreciate you guys if you just get better. But if you get better and become a spectacle? :
Yeah, I'll be going in section 231...Hope to get there early enough to get a tux t-shirt for opening night.Going? Wouldn't miss this one for the world....gonna be awesome! Me and my little dude are making our way uptown for it.Can't wait to go to the Hornet's game tonight.
Also, Charlotte locked up Kemba on 4/48. An overpay probably, but locking up a leader of a young team is not a bad strategy.
I don't think it overstates the value of Gasol at all. He's their best player, a former DPOY who is critical to their offense. They can much more easily withstand the loss of z-Bo.I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
And I think that's kind of the key. But would it really be unforeseen for any or all of those guys to come in around 69-70 games again, when that's what they've all been doing their whole careers?
Obviously, anything goes if someone goes down for the year. But it might be insane to expect full seasons out of any of that crew.
I'm just trying to look at it objectively. I like the team. I just have misgivings about how reliant they seem to be on a very small number of guys, plus how unreliable those guys' bodies seem to be.
But hey, I called them a playoff team anyway, so it's not like I'm doomsaying. Just trying to see both sides of the coin.
If they had an above average wing who could hit the J consistently or/and drive they'd be a title contender. I don't think you can depend on Vince Carter for that. As it is they're a solid playoff team, probably with a conference finals ceiling unless some of the other top WC teams have significant injuries.I don't think it overstates the value of Gasol at all. He's their best player, a former DPOY who is critical to their offense. They can much more easily withstand the loss of z-Bo.I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
And I think that's kind of the key. But would it really be unforeseen for any or all of those guys to come in around 69-70 games again, when that's what they've all been doing their whole careers?
Obviously, anything goes if someone goes down for the year. But it might be insane to expect full seasons out of any of that crew.
I'm just trying to look at it objectively. I like the team. I just have misgivings about how reliant they seem to be on a very small number of guys, plus how unreliable those guys' bodies seem to be.
But hey, I called them a playoff team anyway, so it's not like I'm doomsaying. Just trying to see both sides of the coin.
They match up terribly with the Spurs. I think they have a chance in every other series. Obviously they were right there with a full strength OKC team last year. Carter is probably an upgrade on Miller.If they had an above average wing who could hit the J consistently or/and drive they'd be a title contender. I don't think you can depend on Vince Carter for that. As it is they're a solid playoff team, probably with a conference finals ceiling unless some of the other top WC teams have significant injuries.I don't think it overstates the value of Gasol at all. He's their best player, a former DPOY who is critical to their offense. They can much more easily withstand the loss of z-Bo.I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
And I think that's kind of the key. But would it really be unforeseen for any or all of those guys to come in around 69-70 games again, when that's what they've all been doing their whole careers?
Obviously, anything goes if someone goes down for the year. But it might be insane to expect full seasons out of any of that crew.
I'm just trying to look at it objectively. I like the team. I just have misgivings about how reliant they seem to be on a very small number of guys, plus how unreliable those guys' bodies seem to be.
But hey, I called them a playoff team anyway, so it's not like I'm doomsaying. Just trying to see both sides of the coin.
I don't disagree.I don't think it overstates the value of Gasol at all. He's their best player, a former DPOY who is critical to their offense. They can much more easily withstand the loss of z-Bo.I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
And I think that's kind of the key. But would it really be unforeseen for any or all of those guys to come in around 69-70 games again, when that's what they've all been doing their whole careers?
Obviously, anything goes if someone goes down for the year. But it might be insane to expect full seasons out of any of that crew.
I'm just trying to look at it objectively. I like the team. I just have misgivings about how reliant they seem to be on a very small number of guys, plus how unreliable those guys' bodies seem to be.
But hey, I called them a playoff team anyway, so it's not like I'm doomsaying. Just trying to see both sides of the coin.
i don't think it's 'insane' to think one of the non OKC/SA teams drops out this year. I think this started when someone said it was insane to have GS missing the playoffs, and dropped Memphis instead. GS and MEM will both only miss the playoffs because of key injuries, IMO. Btw which of last year's playoff teams made a big upgrade except Dallas? It's not like MEM was standing still while everyone else was making major improvements (unless I'm forgetting something, which is probable)I don't disagree.I don't think it overstates the value of Gasol at all. He's their best player, a former DPOY who is critical to their offense. They can much more easily withstand the loss of z-Bo.I get all that. And I also think it overstates it to divide it so neatly into with/without Gasol, since the huge majority of that success meant that all three guys (and for most of it, Allen) were suited up and contributing.Gasol missed 33 games last year.Gasol is the most important piece the Grizzlies have.
Go look at the Grizzlies record with Gasol playing and without him playing.
Gasol missing that many games really hurt last year and they still won 50.
If they stay healthy they will make the play offs.
Unless I'm wrong.
And I think that's kind of the key. But would it really be unforeseen for any or all of those guys to come in around 69-70 games again, when that's what they've all been doing their whole careers?
Obviously, anything goes if someone goes down for the year. But it might be insane to expect full seasons out of any of that crew.
I'm just trying to look at it objectively. I like the team. I just have misgivings about how reliant they seem to be on a very small number of guys, plus how unreliable those guys' bodies seem to be.
But hey, I called them a playoff team anyway, so it's not like I'm doomsaying. Just trying to see both sides of the coin.
I also don't think it changes what I said. Gasol didn't miss 33 games, as some were saying. He missed 23. Which is maybe 10-12 more than you'd expect him to miss. He stays ten games healthier, I figure they're a 54-55 win team last year. I also don't think they got any better, and lots of teams beneath them did. I still see them as borderline if those guys all come in around their career avg's in terms of games. I see them as comfortably in if they stay surprisingly healthy. And I don't think any of that is insane.
Put another way, look at this list: Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, Rockets, Blazers, Warriors, Mavs, Pelicans, Nuggets, Suns. How many from that list would you say it's insane to think might make the playoffs? Maybe one? To me, it's an eleven team race for eight spots, and the list of locks is pretty short.
It would shock me. Even if they acquired a guy like Rondo who came willingly, they might be a +.500 team, but that still wouldn't be nearly enough. It's tough to rebuild in the West, unfortunately.
Because he's old, he plays about 25 minutes a game, and I haven't seen him take over a stretch of a game on offense in a very long time.
Jordan the man....yeah he seems like a real ###.
The Nuggets managed it, but they definitely got a more NBA ready return for Melo than the Wolves did for Love.
The Nuggets were not a better team the first year after Melo
They were a better team in the same season that Anthony was traded. That year they were 32-25 before the trade and went 18-7 down the stretch after he was traded.
How often is the far and away best player also a locker room cancer who's only interest is logging the best stats he can so he ends up on a contender? If I'd ever bothered to buy a Love jersey while he was here, I'd definitely have burned it when he left. Glad he's the Cav's problem now.
Jilted lover schtick is
There is zero chance they are getting anywhere close to 40 wins this year. Their O/U is 25.5
