*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (6 Viewers)

[Good Posting Judge]

Good hire by the Lakers.

Not cool to rub it in. Lakers fans have suffered enough.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Good hire by the Lakers.

Not cool to rub it in. Lakers fans have suffered enough.

I really like the hire. I like Mike Brown.Lakers improving on D is their only way to beat the Heat anytime soon IMO. Adelman's a good name, but I think Brown's a better hire for what they need.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Good hire by the Lakers.

Not cool to rub it in. Lakers fans have suffered enough.

I really like the hire. I like Mike Brown.Lakers improving on D is their only way to beat the Heat anytime soon IMO. Adelman's a good name, but I think Brown's a better hire for what they need.

Brown's going to figure out things that Jackson couldn't on defense?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Good hire by the Lakers.

Not cool to rub it in. Lakers fans have suffered enough.

I really like the hire. I like Mike Brown.Lakers improving on D is their only way to beat the Heat anytime soon IMO. Adelman's a good name, but I think Brown's a better hire for what they need.

Brown's going to figure out things that Jackson couldn't on defense?

They made JJ Barea look like Nash out there. But I'm sure Phil had no say in bringing back Fisher (again) and Blake though...Lakers first order of business is finding an NBA quality starting PG. I think 'blowing up the Lakers' talk is non-sense. The Lakers PG play was embarrassing on both ends of the floor. I'll take my chances on Pau playing better next year too.

 

[sihaokills]

So I think the finals will be between the Heat and Mavs. Let's look at the matchups.

Jason Kidd vs Mike Bibby JJ Barea vs Mario Chalmers

Dwayne Wade vs DeShawn Stevenson Mike Miller vs Jason Terry

Shawn Marion vs Lebron James Stovakic vs James Jones

Dirk Novitzki vs Chris Bosh

Tyson Chandler vs Joel Anthony Brendan Heyward vs Udonis Haslem

These will be great and obviously the biggest one is Dirk vs Bosh. I think the point guards of Dallas wins with Kidd that plays hard defense and Barea with penetration to the rim. I would say that the shooting guards are tied, Terry causes havoc penetrating and making jump shots. Wade is obviously explosive and causes turnovers and blocks. Stevenson and Miller could both shoot. I would go with Lebron for the SF. Stojakovic could make threes and Marion is a good driver but I think Lebron will overpower them and speed right by them. Bosh and Novitzki obviouly goes to Dirk. Dirk IMO is the best player in the game right now, if Bosh goes off, it will be a shootout. The centers from both teams are physical and tough. Heyward and Chadler own the paint. Haslem has been doing good and great at rebounding, Anthony is physical and sometimes gets in foul trouble. Advantage Dallas for centers. Overall I like Miami because of the big three. If two of them does great, it's over. Dirk has probably insured 25 points or more. The question for the Mavs is who will step up. Jason Terry has done it but Wade is a great defender. Chandler is a candidate but I don't see him going 20 points. That's why I'm giving advantage Miami

 

[sihaokills]

To my post up there, even though the matchups go in Mavs favor. The defense played by the Heat is overwhelming. The Bulls looked exhausted out there and lost focus.

 

[cvnpoka]

Been out of the country so I havent been able to watch any of the games. What is the deal with the NBA rescinding two of Chandlers techs? I read something that he was 1 or 2 away from a suspension and now they take two away. I guess when the Heat beat the Mavs in the finals again, they don't want to deal with any excuses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO48HIUdRbEthis was one of his ts. obv it should be rescinded.

 

[No. 16]

To my post up there, even though the matchups go in Mavs favor. The defense played by the Heat is overwhelming. The Bulls looked exhausted out there and lost focus.

While the Heat's perimeter defense is outstanding, the Mavericks actually have a half court offense and pass the ball terrifically. It will be a great series to watch and I'll be rooting hard for the Mavericks. Jason Kidd deserves a ring.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Most interesting thing will be to see who LeBron guards next series. The way he absolutely cut off Rose's penetration, I'd love to see him doing the same to Kidd/Barea. He does that, IMO Dallas has no chance (as it negates a lot of their spot up players -- Marion/Peja/Terry/Stevenson). If Dirk gets his 30, I'm fine with that.

Heat only need Bibby/Chalmers seeing minimal minutes IMO.

 

[No. 16]

Most interesting thing will be to see who LeBron guards next series. The way he absolutely cut off Rose's penetration, I'd love to see him doing the same to Kidd/Barea. He does that, IMO Dallas has no chance (as it negates a lot of their spot up players -- Marion/Peja/Terry/Stevenson). If Dirk gets his 30, I'm fine with that. Heat only need Bibby/Chalmers seeing minimal minutes IMO.

LBJ on Kidd/Barea is a waste. Dirk is actually the one making the plays. He's getting tons of hockey assists because he has been passing out of double teams to perfection.Dirk can do no wrong on offense right now. Stop Dirk and you stop the Mavs. The key will be getting someone Bosh, Haslem, or LBJ to guard Dirk 1 on 1 so that they can stay at home on Dallas' 3 point shooters.

 

[cvnpoka]

Miami has to be the favorite against Dallas, right?

I assume Miami gets home court. I'm assuming both teams go on to win their series 4-1 as well so no rest issues to speak of. I'd guess it would be Mia -155/+130 Dallas or something along those lines.

i realize im crucially late on this but that is way too low for miami. they opened at -200 and moved to -185 vs the bulls. they will be -275 to -300 vs the mavs. the books loooooove miami and have all year.

 

[cvnpoka]

My argument would be that New Orleans DID run their offense through their star on isolation plays. It just so happens that his brand of playmaking (which he is easily, far and away the best at) involves creating a wide open shot for somebody else. On a side note, Dallas is actually similar to this in that Dirk is a great pass-out-of-er when he gets doubled on an iso (or any) play. One swing after that and Terry or Peja of Kidd ends up very open a lot. LeBron did this in Cleveland with, iirc, Daniel Gibson for three in the corner against Detroit?

That makes sense. I'd have to pay more attention to be sure and maybe not be as drunk at the end of most games, I guess. I guess it's more a question of the ability/desire of the star to pass when the double team comes.My only recollection of someone hitting a big three from the corner for the LeBron-era Cavs was Damon Jones knocking out the Wizards in Game 6 in 2006.

The three pointer was missed. I think the next game LeBron took it himself through a double in the lane to finish at the rim. But it was a few years ago and I only paid so much attention, since I am and always have been a Mavs fan since I began to play/watch basketball.

it was indeed missed. but it was a pass to donyell marshall and not gibson. he was unreal wide open tho. and you are right that lebron took it to the rack next game, but he missed that layup and the cavs lost. he was fouled approx 3 times on that play and lebron and mike brown made the over the top, lady doth protest too much, "we dont make excuses" claim.

 

[cvnpoka]

Simmons has always made a big deal about how Jordan constantly abused Malone in the 97 Finals, with partial motivation being that Malone was wrongfully given the MVP by the dopey writers because they got tired of voting for MJ. This has the same feel.

The last two games from LeBron have just been insane. I can't remember a player in a long time having that kind of impact on both ends of the court. The guy is guarding everyone, hitting huge shots, and of course throwing in his customary rebounding and passsing. It even seems like he's been on the court the entire game.

LeBron is simply playing on a level few perimeter players ever have.

I credit Lebron's defensive intensity to coach K and the olympics experience...Lebron's D after the olympics noticably took a leap forward IMHO. Same with Wade.It was amazing to watch Kobe/Lebron/Wade on the perimiter like Dobermans...best perimeter defense team I've ever seen.

lol, lebrons defensive prowess steadily improved every year in cleveland with mike brown. you know, the guy who was assistant with the spurs and then the pacers and is credited by artest, sjax, joneal, sean elliott with helping their d a ton.hell, lebron even credited mike brown after this game for his defense.

 

[drummer]

Lakers to reportedly hire Mike Brown.

As head coach.

Ooooooooooooffffff.

Care to unpack this?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Lakers to reportedly hire Mike Brown.

As head coach.

Ooooooooooooffffff.

Kobe should be happy. No coach has perfected the "let my superstar handle the ball while everyone else stands and watches him" offense quite like Mike Brown (although this year's Coach of the Year did a pretty good imitation last night).

 

[TobiasFunke]

Are you constantly blown away when ISO's are run at the end of games over and over and over again by most teams at all levels of basketball? I certainly understand where you're coming from - I'm a fan of motion offenses in general and I'm a firm believer that lack of ball movement and leads to stagnant players and less effective offense overall. But in 1 possession, do-or-die situations in which the defense is set, just running the regular offense rarely works because the defense is at such an advantage.

How often do those Isos work out Tommy? Not very often. You usually end up with an off balance, contested jumper from distance - that's a fail regardless of who is taking the shot. The defense is at an advantage because they basically only have to cover 1 guy. You're putting zero pressure on them. It's stupid. It's a sop to the biggest ego on the team. Obviously if you've only got 3 seconds to work with your options are limited, but when you have a near full 24 and you run an iso you're doing the other team a favor. Bad offense.

I've made this argument consistently for a while now. There's a lot of factors at work in the final minute that make it difficult to compare apples to apples, but to me the strongest evidence that the Groovus position here is the correct one is the fact that when Hollinger did that article:(1) the best offense in the league in the final minute was the one with the best pass-first point guard, Chris Paul, and (2) unlike what I assume is pretty much every other team in the league (Hollinger didn't include all the data for all the teams) they were actually as good or better in the final minute as they were throughout the game, meaning that other "factors" like increased defensive intensity or fatigue or whatever really weren't factors at all.I'm open to another argument, but to my mind, if you want to argue that running final possessions through stars and/or running ISOs is the best way to play down the stretch, you have to address that point. Why is the best team down the stretch also the one that's the most unpredictable?

Those isos at the end of regulation were awesome. 3, possessions zero points, zero good looks.

Yup. Since we started having this discussion I've been paying closer attention to end of game scenarios. It's remarkable to watch teams shoot themselves in the foot like that.

 

[TobiasFunke]

With Loul Deng and Carlos Boozer now facing elimination, it's time for an ACC/NBA Fun Fact!

Journeyman center and UNC basketball alumnus Scott Williams has more NBA championship rings to his credit than every single player in the history of the Duke basketball program.

 

[Bobcat10]

Now that he's fully committed defensively, he's undoubtedly the best player in the world, and it's really not close.

Weren't the Cavs consistently among the best defenses in the NBA with LeBron? I don't think this is a new phenomenon. He has more freedom now with better teammates of course, but he's been an elite defender for a while.

 

[wadegarrett]

Simmons has always made a big deal about how Jordan constantly abused Malone in the 97 Finals, with partial motivation being that Malone was wrongfully given the MVP by the dopey writers because they got tired of voting for MJ.

This has the same feel.

The last two games from LeBron have just been insane. I can't remember a player in a long time having that kind of impact on both ends of the court. The guy is guarding everyone, hitting huge shots, and of course throwing in his customary rebounding and passsing. It even seems like he's been on the court the entire game.

LeBron is simply playing on a level few perimeter players ever have.

I credit Lebron's defensive intensity to coach K and the olympics experience...Lebron's D after the olympics noticably took a leap forward IMHO. Same with Wade.

Not even close. Mike Brown is the reason. The only one, actually.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Wade's blocks were sick.

 

[boubucarow]

LeBron in this series is the first perimeter defender that has truly reminded me of what Pippen would sometimes be able to do for the Bulls. Playing at such a level than an entire offensive scheme is completely fractured.

 

[shake zula]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

 

[boubucarow]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

At worst, he is on a very short list. The best ever at his height for certain I think. Jordan is comparable but did have a couple inches.

 

[Todem]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

I would have to say yes (after Jordan). And it was a joke he was not first all NBA defensive team. Kobe? Kobe is a legend but Wade is now the better all around defender. The blocks speak volumes of how dominant he is on defense.

 

[shake zula]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

I would have to say yes (after Jordan). And it was a joke he was not first all NBA defensive team. Kobe? Kobe is a legend but Wade is now the better all around defender. The blocks speak volumes of how dominant he is on defense.

I think it's getting missed but it shows a ton of character on the part of Wade that he played so hard defensively on a night when his shotting was horrific. This is not indicative of today's NBA me-first mindset. For all the grief these guys have taken, for all the hate, they (and in particular Wade) are playing some outstanding team ball. Wade could've sulked but he didn't. He could've let ego stand in his way and in the way of the heat winning last night, and he didn't. I've got to give the guy his props because his attitude last night was just as important as James and Bosh's play.

 

[Todem]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

I would have to say yes (after Jordan). And it was a joke he was not first all NBA defensive team. Kobe? Kobe is a legend but Wade is now the better all around defender. The blocks speak volumes of how dominant he is on defense.

I think it's getting missed but it shows a ton of character on the part of Wade that he played so hard defensively on a night when his shotting was horrific. This is not indicative of today's NBA me-first mindset. For all the grief these guys have taken, for all the hate, they (and in particular Wade) are playing some outstanding team ball. Wade could've sulked but he didn't. He could've let ego stand in his way and in the way of the heat winning last night, and he didn't. I've got to give the guy his props because his attitude last night was just as important as James and Bosh's play.

Absolutely. I was at the game sitting vertical of the Heat bench behind the basket. I was watching him a lot during the 4th quarter. He was staying loose, standing up, yelling and staying involved despite a really bad night. IMO I think (and they won't say this) he was battling some real discomfort in his back. He did not have his first step at all last night. But he rested a ton in the 4th quarter and geared up for the end of the game and OT where he just gave an all out defensive effort.Mike Miller also came up HUGE. He was feeling it last night, but not only hitting some big shots but hustle stats. rebounds, loose balls. The Heat are playing great team basketball in that regard.Bosh drained some monster shots. It's great to see this team coming together and seeing the lineup that was envisioned in the summer of:WadeMillerLebronBoshHaslemOn the floor for crunch time.

 

[sihaokills]

THat lineup was great last night

 

[No. 16]

Kinda pissed I missed the 2nd half of the game last night to actually play basketball. At least we held court for 5 games sandwiched between 2 losses, but damn my back is sore.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

I would have to say yes (after Jordan). And it was a joke he was not first all NBA defensive team. Kobe? Kobe is a legend but Wade is now the better all around defender. The blocks speak volumes of how dominant he is on defense.

I think it's getting missed but it shows a ton of character on the part of Wade that he played so hard defensively on a night when his shotting was horrific. This is not indicative of today's NBA me-first mindset. For all the grief these guys have taken, for all the hate, they (and in particular Wade) are playing some outstanding team ball. Wade could've sulked but he didn't. He could've let ego stand in his way and in the way of the heat winning last night, and he didn't. I've got to give the guy his props because his attitude last night was just as important as James and Bosh's play.

That's why Wade is my favorite player. LeBron is playing a mean team game as well. Defends like Pippen, passes/vision like Magic, and I don't know who to compare him to offensively with that combination of size/strength/speed.I don't know where to put Wade on the all-time SG blocks/defense list. I'd have to do some digging. I know he has been close to 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season at least once and that the only SG to ever reach those milestones was Jordan, who did it twice. Think about that. Jordan did that twice, won defensive player of the year, and was the most dominant player offensively. I miss watching him, but this LeBron/Wade combo is starting to be fun as well.

 

[shake zula]

Wade's blocks were sick.

Is Wade the best ever when it comes to guards who can block shots?

I would have to say yes (after Jordan). And it was a joke he was not first all NBA defensive team. Kobe? Kobe is a legend but Wade is now the better all around defender. The blocks speak volumes of how dominant he is on defense.

I think it's getting missed but it shows a ton of character on the part of Wade that he played so hard defensively on a night when his shotting was horrific. This is not indicative of today's NBA me-first mindset. For all the grief these guys have taken, for all the hate, they (and in particular Wade) are playing some outstanding team ball. Wade could've sulked but he didn't. He could've let ego stand in his way and in the way of the heat winning last night, and he didn't. I've got to give the guy his props because his attitude last night was just as important as James and Bosh's play.

Absolutely. I was at the game sitting vertical of the Heat bench behind the basket. I was watching him a lot during the 4th quarter. He was staying loose, standing up, yelling and staying involved despite a really bad night. IMO I think (and they won't say this) he was battling some real discomfort in his back. He did not have his first step at all last night. But he rested a ton in the 4th quarter and geared up for the end of the game and OT where he just gave an all out defensive effort.

Mike Miller also came up HUGE. He was feeling it last night, but not only hitting some big shots but hustle stats. rebounds, loose balls. The Heat are playing great team basketball in that regard.

Bosh drained some monster shots. It's great to see this team coming together and seeing the lineup that was envisioned in the summer of:

Wade

Miller

Lebron

Bosh

Haslem

On the floor for crunch time.

Great point. A healthy Mike Miller is going to make the Heat even tougher next year. I had no idea he was such an aggressive rebounder. If Dexter Pittman develops like the team thinks he will the Heat may not be forced to use cap space on a FA big man.

 

[Gr00vus]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

 

[ArbyMelt]

Is someone gonna tell DRose he isn't playing the Pacers or Hawks anymore? He keep trying to drive through a double team with 2 shot blockers waiting for him. I don't care how good he is, and how bad the rest of his team is, you have to pass out and give Boozer or whoever the open 12 footer. I know he is young and will mature, and I didn't watch any regular season games, but he is killing his team in this series. Sure he had a couple great dunks, but what about the other 15 times he drove the basket. I am pretty sure he had more turnovers than assists, but I haven't checked the box score.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

 

[Gr00vus]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.5

09-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"

Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3

What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

I don't know what you think you proved by posting those regular season stats, but I don't think it's going the way you want it to.As for Mike Brown - how about winning a playoff series against a quality opponent for starters.

 

[No. 16]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

An offense.

 

[Abraham]

The thing that is surprising to me about Miami being up 3-1 is that I really thought the secret-sauce for beating Chicago would be outside shooting. I thought the Chicago interior D was so impressive up til now that Wade and Lebron would be limited on drives to the bucket and Bosh would be essentially a non-factor. Cojnsidering how the inside of the Chicago defense has played, it isn't really surprising that they are down 3-1.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

An offense.

His offense was as good as the absurd Lebron/Wade/Bosh triumvate.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

So this means no Mike Brown excuses for Kobe next year when he and the team both perform more poorly than LeBron and the Cavs did under him, right?

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.5

09-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"

Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3

What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

I don't know what you think you proved by posting those regular season stats, but I don't think it's going the way you want it to.As for Mike Brown - how about winning a playoff series against a quality opponent for starters.

That's all on Mike Brown? When is the last time Rick Adelman, Brian Shaw or Jeff Van Gundy beat a quality playoff opponent in the playoffs?

 

[Gr00vus]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.5

09-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"

Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3

What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

I don't know what you think you proved by posting those regular season stats, but I don't think it's going the way you want it to.As for Mike Brown - how about winning a playoff series against a quality opponent for starters.

That's all on Mike Brown? When is the last time Rick Adelman, Brian Shaw or Jeff Van Gundy beat a quality playoff opponent in the playoffs?

Who said I'd like to see Adelman coach the Lakers? At least VanGundy makes a good dust mop. Shaw - who knows? I'd rather take my chances with the unproven guy than the guy who has proven he can't win anything in the postseason and has zero offensive game plan - all with the best player in the game on his team.But by all means, wax nostalgic about LeBron's #####. Can't believe you'll be happy with LeBron's sloppy seconds when they actually hit the court though.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

So this means no Mike Brown excuses for Kobe next year when he and the team both perform more poorly than LeBron and the Cavs did under him, right?

I've never blamed coaching for the Lakers occasional failings. I don't know how LeBron was credited for overachieving given the talent level of his teammates and excused for his playoff failures by the basketball majority yet Mike Brown is given no credit for his team overachieving in the regular season and all the blame for failing in the playoffs.

 

[No. 16]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

An offense.

His offense was as good as the absurd Lebron/Wade/Bosh triumvate.

Common theme here: LeBron JamesSo happy the Lakers hired Mike Brown instead of the Warriors.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.5

09-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"

Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3

What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

I don't know what you think you proved by posting those regular season stats, but I don't think it's going the way you want it to.As for Mike Brown - how about winning a playoff series against a quality opponent for starters.

That's all on Mike Brown? When is the last time Rick Adelman, Brian Shaw or Jeff Van Gundy beat a quality playoff opponent in the playoffs?

Who said I'd like to see Adelman coach the Lakers? At least VanGundy makes a good dust mop. Shaw - who knows? I'd rather take my chances with the unproven guy than the guy who has proven he can't win anything in the postseason and has zero offensive game plan - all with the best player in the game on his team.

The terrible "Mike Brown offense" was as statistically dominant as the loaded Wade-LeBron-Bosh offense. He's only been coaching for 5 years and has a 42-29 record in the playoffs. I don't see how hiring an unnamed unproven guy would have been a superior hire.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Mike Brown? Is he bringing LeBron and Varejao with him?

11 Heat with Lebron/Wade/BoshOff Rtg: 111.7 Def Rtg: 103.509-10 Cavs with LeBron + "scrubs"Off Rtg: 111.8 ▪ Def Rtg: 103.3 What more would you have to see out of Mike Brown to be comfortable with him as a coach?

So this means no Mike Brown excuses for Kobe next year when he and the team both perform more poorly than LeBron and the Cavs did under him, right?

I've never blamed coaching for the Lakers occasional failings. I don't know how LeBron was credited for overachieving given the talent level of his teammates and excused for his playoff failures by the basketball majority yet Mike Brown is given no credit for his team overachieving in the regular season and all the blame for failing in the playoffs.

Kind of hard to put blame on a guy like Phil Jackson.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Can someone please explain the inbounding rule to me? You get 5 seconds to inbound the ball and 8 seconds to get it over half. Why in the hell are you able to roll the ball on the court and have neither of these apply?

-If no one touches the ball, then it has not been put into play and the 5 seconds should apply.

-If the ball is considered in play, then the shot clock should start and the 8 second count should apply.

 

[No. 16]

Can someone please explain the inbounding rule to me? You get 5 seconds to inbound the ball and 8 seconds to get it over half. Why in the hell are you able to roll the ball on the court and have neither of these apply? -If no one touches the ball, then it has not been put into play and the 5 seconds should apply.-If the ball is considered in play, then the shot clock should start and the 8 second count should apply.

I think it just has to leave the inbounder's hands within 5 seconds.

 

[SlaX]

Can someone please explain the inbounding rule to me? You get 5 seconds to inbound the ball and 8 seconds to get it over half. Why in the hell are you able to roll the ball on the court and have neither of these apply? -If no one touches the ball, then it has not been put into play and the 5 seconds should apply.-If the ball is considered in play, then the shot clock should start and the 8 second count should apply.

I think it just has to leave the inbounder's hands within 5 seconds.

This is correct. The player inbounding the ball has 5 seconds to have the ball leave his hands. The ball is not live until it legally touches a player.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Can someone please explain the inbounding rule to me? You get 5 seconds to inbound the ball and 8 seconds to get it over half. Why in the hell are you able to roll the ball on the court and have neither of these apply? -If no one touches the ball, then it has not been put into play and the 5 seconds should apply.-If the ball is considered in play, then the shot clock should start and the 8 second count should apply.

I think it just has to leave the inbounder's hands within 5 seconds.

This is correct. The player inbounding the ball has 5 seconds to have the ball leave his hands. The ball is not live until it legally touches a player.

I think you guys are missing the nature of Mr. Clavin's inquiry. it is perhaps his most perplexing since he famously asked "who are three people who have never been in my kitchen?"

 

[Zigg]

I have an end of game scenario question for you guys. You have the ball tied with 15 seconds left, would you prefer:

1)An excellent look at the basket with 10 secs left(lets assume uncontested 10 footer by #2 option), or

2)A contested jumper a step or two inside 3 point line as time expires by your star

Coaches are able to draw up plays to get great looks coming out of TOs all the time, but it seems that ensuring you take the last shot takes priority over the quality of the shot.

 

[Gr00vus]

I have an end of game scenario question for you guys. You have the ball tied with 15 seconds left, would you prefer:1)An excellent look at the basket with 10 secs left(lets assume uncontested 10 footer by #2 option), or2)A contested jumper a step or two inside 3 point line as time expires by your starCoaches are able to draw up plays to get great looks coming out of TOs all the time, but it seems that ensuring you take the last shot takes priority over the quality of the shot.

1 - I'll take the uncontested look every time, plus if he misses there's still a chance at an offensive board or something with time left. Let the other guys have to deal with a short clock after we score.