*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (4 Viewers)

[Sinn Fein]

I think we can all acknowledge that the NBA is scripted tighter than a WWE show, so why don't we just cut to the chase and Put Dallas v. Miami in the finals, with Dallas winning this time after a disputed call?

 

[Todem]

Angry/focused Lebron is kind of scary late in games here in the playoffs. I prefer this to the goofy/dancing/aloof Lebron in Cleveland. Kid is really growing up..That said...Dallas in 5

Good luck with that.Heat in 6. Dallas has not seen this kind of defense.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

heat in 5

 

[shake zula]

heat in 5

Heat in 5.Anyone looking for action?

 

[shake zula]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

 

[saintfool]

heat in 5

Heat in 5.Anyone looking for action?

sure. what terms are you looking for here?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

That LeBron guy is pretty good.

 

[shake zula]

heat in 5

Heat in 5.Anyone looking for action?

sure. what terms are you looking for here?

1:150 bones?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

I think Chandler will do a pretty good job of shutting down Bosh, if that is the matchup. He has the quickness and length to give him fits. If I'm Dallas, I'm not sure what I do. Dirk could do a mediocre job Bosh leaving Chandler to roam and help on Wade/James drives.Also looking forward to the renewed Deshawn / LeBron feud.

 

[JMon348]

Angry/focused Lebron is kind of scary late in games here in the playoffs. I prefer this to the goofy/dancing/aloof Lebron in Cleveland. Kid is really growing up..

That said...Dallas in 57

Post of the year with a few tweaks.

 

[JMon348]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

Mavs baby!!!How bout this you give me the Mavs at around 4.75/4 and make it evenallas wins, you give me $100Miami wins, I give you $100

 

[sihaokills]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

I think Chandler will do a pretty good job of shutting down Bosh, if that is the matchup. He has the quickness and length to give him fits. If I'm Dallas, I'm not sure what I do. Dirk could do a mediocre job Bosh leaving Chandler to roam and help on Wade/James drives.Also looking forward to the renewed Deshawn / LeBron feud.

Who going defend Wade then?? What's Marion going to do??

 

[shake zula]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

Mavs baby!!!How bout this you give me the Mavs at around 4.75/4 and make it evenallas wins, you give me $100Miami wins, I give you $100

wouldn't it be heat win I get 100, mavs win you don't owe me 60?

 

[JMon348]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

Mavs baby!!!How bout this you give me the Mavs at around 4.75/4 and make it evenallas wins, you give me $100Miami wins, I give you $100

wouldn't it be heat win I get 100, mavs win you don't owe me 60?

As it stands now:Heat win, I owe you 60Mavs win, you ove me 50You give me a little odds on this matchup and make it and even 100 either way. We can keep it the same if you want, just saw you wanted more action.

 

[shake zula]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

Mavs baby!!!How bout this you give me the Mavs at around 4.75/4 and make it evenallas wins, you give me $100Miami wins, I give you $100

wouldn't it be heat win I get 100, mavs win you don't owe me 60?

As it stands now:Heat win, I owe you 60Mavs win, you ove me 50You give me a little odds on this matchup and make it and even 100 either way. We can keep it the same if you want, just saw you wanted more action.

I'm a dummy. I forgot this was for the title not heat v. bulls. My bad 100%. I'm in on w/ the new odds. 100 straight away for the winner.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

I think Chandler will do a pretty good job of shutting down Bosh, if that is the matchup. He has the quickness and length to give him fits. If I'm Dallas, I'm not sure what I do. Dirk could do a mediocre job Bosh leaving Chandler to roam and help on Wade/James drives.Also looking forward to the renewed Deshawn / LeBron feud.

Who going defend Wade then?? What's Marion going to do??

Marion will probably be on LeBron. Kidd or Deshawn on Wade.

 

[sihaokills]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

I think Chandler will do a pretty good job of shutting down Bosh, if that is the matchup. He has the quickness and length to give him fits. If I'm Dallas, I'm not sure what I do. Dirk could do a mediocre job Bosh leaving Chandler to roam and help on Wade/James drives.Also looking forward to the renewed Deshawn / LeBron feud.

Who going defend Wade then?? What's Marion going to do??

 

[JMon348]

hahaha no way brochacho. I am a heat fan but not a sound play. I'll take the action at 2/1 .

I'll throw in the Hawks too and make it 4.75/4.My $60 to your $50

You get the field and a win earns you 50?I get the Heat and a win earns me 60?In, if this is the case.

Deal.

pm for paypal

Mavs baby!!!How bout this you give me the Mavs at around 4.75/4 and make it evenallas wins, you give me $100Miami wins, I give you $100

wouldn't it be heat win I get 100, mavs win you don't owe me 60?

As it stands now:Heat win, I owe you 60Mavs win, you ove me 50You give me a little odds on this matchup and make it and even 100 either way. We can keep it the same if you want, just saw you wanted more action.

I'm a dummy. I forgot this was for the title not heat v. bulls. My bad 100%. I'm in on w/ the new odds. 100 straight away for the winner.

ok deal.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Haslem and Bosh will be a much different look for Dirk than Pau and Collison. I don't think he's "shutdown" but he isn't averaging 32 this series. I assume Lebron is on Dirk in crunchtime. Kidd's 3s will be the X-factor this series.

I think Chandler will do a pretty good job of shutting down Bosh, if that is the matchup. He has the quickness and length to give him fits. If I'm Dallas, I'm not sure what I do. Dirk could do a mediocre job Bosh leaving Chandler to roam and help on Wade/James drives.Also looking forward to the renewed Deshawn / LeBron feud.

Who going defend Wade then?? What's Marion going to do??

The 'feud' and trash talk can happen without them covering each other.

 

[Dexter Manley]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT.

He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

 

[culdeus]

What are the real series odds?

I think Heat in 5 seems likely.

 

[Shtaym Syek]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

Whoa.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

LeBron has that kind of potential perhaps, but he certainly hasn't attained that status yet, and it will be years before he earns that type of discussion even IMO. LeBron's combination of size, speed, vision, scoring, rebounding, and now defensive intensity has him poised as the best candidate we've had though, that's for sure. But not yet.

 

[Dexter Manley]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

LeBron has that kind of potential perhaps, but he certainly hasn't attained that status yet, and it will be years before he earns that type of discussion even IMO. LeBron's combination of size, speed, vision, scoring, rebounding, and now defensive intensity has him poised as the best candidate we've had though, that's for sure. But not yet.

I agree he hasn't reached that point yet. He does, however, have the most talent and ability of any player I've ever seen play (I've watched the nba since the 80's). Basically, if you combined Magic and Jordan, and then added a heavy dose of strength and physicality, you have LeBron James. Dude is an uberfreak. If the Heat start winning championships over the next 5 or 6 years, I think it will be pretty clear that he's a top candidate, if not the obvious candidate, for GOAT.

 

[lumpy19]

What are the real series odds?I think Heat in 5 seems likely.

Heat -180Dallas +170ETA: NBA finals is 2-3-2, not 2-2-1-1-1, heat in 5 assumes heat win at least 2 games on the road

 

[Gr00vus]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

 

[No. 16]

What are the real series odds?I think Heat in 5 seems likely.

Heat -180Dallas +170ETA: NBA finals is 2-3-2, not 2-2-1-1-1, heat in 5 assumes heat win at least 2 games on the road

I'll wait until the line moves further out for the Mavericks. I think they have a decent shot at this.

 

[No. 16]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

LeBron has that kind of potential perhaps, but he certainly hasn't attained that status yet, and it will be years before he earns that type of discussion even IMO. LeBron's combination of size, speed, vision, scoring, rebounding, and now defensive intensity has him poised as the best candidate we've had though, that's for sure. But not yet.

I agree he hasn't reached that point yet. He does, however, have the most talent and ability of any player I've ever seen play (I've watched the nba since the 80's). Basically, if you combined Magic and Jordan, and then added a heavy dose of strength and physicality, you have LeBron James. Dude is an uberfreak. If the Heat start winning championships over the next 5 or 6 years, I think it will be pretty clear that he's a top candidate, if not the obvious candidate, for GOAT.

Magic Johnson + MJ + Karl Malone = LBJ

 

[Kev4029]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

LeBron has that kind of potential perhaps, but he certainly hasn't attained that status yet, and it will be years before he earns that type of discussion even IMO. LeBron's combination of size, speed, vision, scoring, rebounding, and now defensive intensity has him poised as the best candidate we've had though, that's for sure. But not yet.

I agree he hasn't reached that point yet. He does, however, have the most talent and ability of any player I've ever seen play (I've watched the nba since the 80's). Basically, if you combined Magic and Jordan, and then added a heavy dose of strength and physicality, you have LeBron James. Dude is an uberfreak. If the Heat start winning championships over the next 5 or 6 years, I think it will be pretty clear that he's a top candidate, if not the obvious candidate, for GOAT.

Magic Johnson + MJ + Karl Malone = LBJ

Slow down there, Lebron hater. When did you jump on the bandwagon?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Magic Johnson + MJ + Karl Malone = LBJ

updated clutchness rating?

 

[Abraham]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

Whoa.

That's ridiculous. Put another way: if the Heat were playing any of Jordan's title teams, who would be favored? /argument

 

[gmbacm]

The Heat are going to challenge Boston for consecutive titles if they stay healthy. I may quit watching the NBA.

Let's not go overboard. They haven't even won this year yet, and personally I don't think they will. But we'll see.

If you decide to give more money away Ill sign up.

 

[culdeus]

What are the real series odds?I think Heat in 5 seems likely.

Heat -180Dallas +170ETA: NBA finals is 2-3-2, not 2-2-1-1-1, heat in 5 assumes heat win at least 2 games on the road

Ah, yes. This is a fishy number. They are begging you to take Dallas.

 

[culdeus]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

Whoa.

That's ridiculous. Put another way: if the Heat were playing any of Jordan's title teams, who would be favored? /argument

what?

 

[Todem]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

Whoa.

That's ridiculous. Put another way: if the Heat were playing any of Jordan's title teams, who would be favored? /argument

What a good question. I will play that series on NBA2K11. I have all the Bulls teams (all 6 championship teams that is).That is a truly good question and one to ponder. It would be an insane series. The question is which Bulls team? The trio of MJ, Pip and Grant? Or Dennis or Kukoc. Plenty to ponder.

 

[Abraham]

What a good question. I will play that series on NBA2K11. I have all the Bulls teams (all 6 championship teams that is).That is a truly good question and one to ponder. It would be an insane series. The question is which Bulls team? The trio of MJ, Pip and Grant? Or Dennis or Kukoc. Plenty to ponder.

I'm not one to try and quantify "heart" because that's something utilized by fans and media people and probably not as much by the athletes themselves. But MJ's will to win will always separate him from the Kobe's and Lebrons, etc.

 

[tommyGunZ]

What a good question. I will play that series on NBA2K11. I have all the Bulls teams (all 6 championship teams that is).That is a truly good question and one to ponder. It would be an insane series. The question is which Bulls team? The trio of MJ, Pip and Grant? Or Dennis or Kukoc. Plenty to ponder.

I'm not one to try and quantify "heart" because that's something utilized by fans and media people and probably not as much by the athletes themselves. But MJ's will to win will always separate him from the Kobe's and Lebrons, etc.

I can see questioning lots of things w/re to Kobe, but will to win isn't one of them.

 

[GDogg]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

 

[GDogg]

What a good question. I will play that series on NBA2K11. I have all the Bulls teams (all 6 championship teams that is).That is a truly good question and one to ponder. It would be an insane series. The question is which Bulls team? The trio of MJ, Pip and Grant? Or Dennis or Kukoc. Plenty to ponder.

I'm not one to try and quantify "heart" because that's something utilized by fans and media people and probably not as much by the athletes themselves. But MJ's will to win will always separate him from the Kobe's and Lebrons, etc.

I can see questioning lots of things w/re to Kobe, but will to win isn't one of them.

Agreed. Even Phil Jackson concedes that point about Kobe.

 

[Gr00vus]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

the son of owner Jerry Buss again shows he doesn't know what he's doing by picking Brown over several other better candidates

If they were going to pay $4.5 million a year for a defense-minded, non-Lakers-style coach, the easy choice was Van Gundy, who soothed the press beast as New York Knicks coach, the only job harder than the Lakers.

I'm sure Heisler doesn't know what he's talking about either.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Kobe certainly has a passion for winning and a killer instinct. He just lacks judgement IMO sometimes.

So dirk, terry, wade, and Haslem are the only holdovers from 06, right?

Bosh really showed up against the bulls. They'll need him to hit that open jumper again and be able to keep up with dirk.

 

[GDogg]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

the son of owner Jerry Buss again shows he doesn't know what he's doing by picking Brown over several other better candidates

If they were going to pay $4.5 million a year for a defense-minded, non-Lakers-style coach, the easy choice was Van Gundy, who soothed the press beast as New York Knicks coach, the only job harder than the Lakers.

I'm sure Heisler doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Do you really think that's some great analysis of Mike Brown? There are two points about him in your quotes: 1) He's defense-minded; and, 2) he's a non-Lakers-style coach. Amazing stuff, right?Jeff Van Gundy wasn't a candidate. Wasn't your point that Brian Shaw should have been hired instead of Mike Brown? Point me to the quotes from Heisler about why Shaw was the better candidate. Oh right, there were none. On Shaw: "That left Adelman, Dunleavy with non-starters Brian Shaw and Chuck Person."

 

[Gr00vus]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

the son of owner Jerry Buss again shows he doesn't know what he's doing by picking Brown over several other better candidates

If they were going to pay $4.5 million a year for a defense-minded, non-Lakers-style coach, the easy choice was Van Gundy, who soothed the press beast as New York Knicks coach, the only job harder than the Lakers.

I'm sure Heisler doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Do you really think that's some great analysis of Mike Brown? There are two points about him in your quotes: 1) He's defense-minded; and, 2) he's a non-Lakers-style coach. Amazing stuff, right?Jeff Van Gundy wasn't a candidate. Wasn't your point that Brian Shaw should have been hired instead of Mike Brown? Point me to the quotes from Heisler about why Shaw was the better candidate. Oh right, there were none. On Shaw: "That left Adelman, Dunleavy with non-starters Brian Shaw and Chuck Person."

Yeah, I'm sure there's no analysis behind Heisler's conclusions, he's just letting stuff fly. He's saying VanGundy, Shaw, etc. weren't candidates because Jim Buss became fixated on Brown - he didn't even interview anyone else.

 

[No. 16]

Never doubted the talent, just his ability to win it all.

Clutchness rating is around a 5/10. Still average nothing special.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

the son of owner Jerry Buss again shows he doesn't know what he's doing by picking Brown over several other better candidates

If they were going to pay $4.5 million a year for a defense-minded, non-Lakers-style coach, the easy choice was Van Gundy, who soothed the press beast as New York Knicks coach, the only job harder than the Lakers.

I'm sure Heisler doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Do you really think that's some great analysis of Mike Brown? There are two points about him in your quotes: 1) He's defense-minded; and, 2) he's a non-Lakers-style coach. Amazing stuff, right?Jeff Van Gundy wasn't a candidate. Wasn't your point that Brian Shaw should have been hired instead of Mike Brown? Point me to the quotes from Heisler about why Shaw was the better candidate. Oh right, there were none. On Shaw: "That left Adelman, Dunleavy with non-starters Brian Shaw and Chuck Person."

Yeah, I'm sure there's no analysis behind Heisler's conclusions, he's just letting stuff fly. He's saying VanGundy, Shaw, etc. weren't candidates because Jim Buss became fixated on Brown - he didn't even interview anyone else.

http://twitter.com/#!/MHeislerLATimesJust so you know who you are talking about.

LAKER UPDATE: JERRY, JIM BUSS, KUPCHAK MEET Smoke is black, meaning no new coach. Usual suspects/leading candidates still Adelman, Dunleavy

LAKER COACHING ODDS Adelman 3-1. Dunleavy 3-1. BShaw 10-1 and dropping the more they let him interview. Byron 100-1. Byron w/o contract 1-2.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Never doubted the talent, just his ability to win it all.Clutchness rating is around a 5/10. Still average nothing special.

He's been pretty clutch these playoffs. I guess it will take finals heroics to convice you. Which i understand.

 

[shake zula]

Never doubted the talent, just his ability to win it all.Clutchness rating is around a 5/10. Still average nothing special.

Care to flesh out what an 8-10 would be? How can he be anymore clutch? How many times does he need to do an as of yet undefined "clutch act" before he is a 10? Splain lucy.

 

[Ghost Rider]

In case anyone missed M&M this morning, they had Scottie Pippen on and asked him if he thought Jordan was the GOAT. He said that while Jordan is probably the greatest scorer of all time, LeBron is a better player.

Pippen is a knobhead.

Never doubted the talent, just his ability to win it all.Clutchness rating is around a 5/10. Still average nothing special.

This is very stinky bait.

 

[GDogg]

Heat in 5 or 6.

Meanwhile Mark Heisler rips the Mike Brown hiring (making some points I recall seeing someone around here make) and J.J. Adande points out that the Lakers have entered a period of disarray.

Did you know Jimmy, sorry I mean the Lakers, only interviewed one person for the HC job?

He ripped the process. He didn't really make any points about Mike Brown.This all he wrote about Mike Brown as a coach:

Brown is a decent coach but all he has over Rick Adelman and Mike Dunleavy is his record ... in the regular season ... courtesy of LeBron James.

Brown kept James in the half-court from ages 20-25 and, at least at the end, they had no Kobe-Phil-type working bond.

The Cavaliers fired Brown last spring to find a coach who had played in the NBA and would drive James — which was what James said he wanted.

That's not exactly great analysis.

the son of owner Jerry Buss again shows he doesn't know what he's doing by picking Brown over several other better candidates

If they were going to pay $4.5 million a year for a defense-minded, non-Lakers-style coach, the easy choice was Van Gundy, who soothed the press beast as New York Knicks coach, the only job harder than the Lakers.

I'm sure Heisler doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Do you really think that's some great analysis of Mike Brown? There are two points about him in your quotes: 1) He's defense-minded; and, 2) he's a non-Lakers-style coach. Amazing stuff, right?Jeff Van Gundy wasn't a candidate. Wasn't your point that Brian Shaw should have been hired instead of Mike Brown? Point me to the quotes from Heisler about why Shaw was the better candidate. Oh right, there were none. On Shaw: "That left Adelman, Dunleavy with non-starters Brian Shaw and Chuck Person."

Yeah, I'm sure there's no analysis behind Heisler's conclusions, he's just letting stuff fly. He's saying VanGundy, Shaw, etc. weren't candidates because Jim Buss became fixated on Brown - he didn't even interview anyone else.

Are you familiar with Heisler? He does tend to just let stuff fly. And, if he does have analysis behind his conclusions, it would have made for a much better story if he provided them to the reader.