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Because is more athletic than Turner so his ceiling is assumed to be higher. However, I think Turner could be near as good and possibly better if Wall doesn't reach his ceiling. I think Turner will be a player between Brandon Roy and Scottie Pippen.
Rotoworld now saying the Bucks also got the 44th pick in this trade.
Maggette has 3 years left, btw.
He did just meet with Lebron, about Curry's future. Maybe Lebron gave him some sound advice.
I have not heard a three way rumor, but now that you mention it, maybe it makes some sense. I've heard the Cavs are interested in Calderon and Jack and I'm assuming the Raps will get rid of one of them.On the Portland side of things, I've heard the Cavs would be getting either Bayless or Miller. Some dreams of Oden (I think that's ridiculus, even with his injuries) or Batum (they didn't trade him for #4 overall, they won't trade him for Mo) have floated around. Saw Fernandez mentioned somewhere and can't remember if that was paired with Bayless.
He is a better player than you think, and in a C/PF heavy draft, hes probably worth more than the #4 pick for the Blazers. In the next couple years Batum will be Bruce Bowen with better athleticism. In his limited time last year he averaged about 15 pts, 6 rebs, 2 asts, 1 blk, 1 stl while shooting over 50% from the field and 40% from the 3-point line.
While it is hard to be placed in Bowen's class defensively, Batum has loads of defensive potential and is a much better offensive player than Bowen.
Batum is a guy you can pencil in as your starter for 10+ years (he's only 20 years old, btw). Maybe he doesn't have the kind of high ceiling that the #4 draft pick represents, but at the same time you know he's not going to be a bust.Would you rather have 14 ppg and 50% FG% for 10 years........or would you rather take the risk that you might end up with Adam Morrison?
From what I've seen of him I think the opposite - the guy has a very high ceiling, it's just a question of how much of his potential he can develop.
That's really not too bad an offer for Paul. I don't think they're going to pay Paul while they get 2 young guys for cheap with a lot of potential.I can't see Portland interested in Mo. It'd be a downgrade from what they currently have IMO.
The Blazers could have had Harris 2 years ago but they didn't want to give up Travis Outlaw.
I agree with this. He could be an All Star level player.
Why are the Bucks collecting terrible players?
Beat me to it. I was just about to post the same thing. Maggette is nowhere near expiring. The Bucks must thing that adding a black hole to their game will somehow help Jennings at the point. I don't get it, but hey Bucks, knock yourselves out.
Maggette + CDR >>>> Bell + Gadzuric IMOThe Bucks need offense. That was readily apparent vs. the Hawks. With the way Salmons performed down the stretch, he should have a few suitors. (And now I think we can cross Milwaukee off that list). Which of the good/great players do you expect to want to come to Milwaukee??
Neither Maggette or Douglas-Roberts seem like Skiles' sort of players. If Skiles can get Maggette to play some defense, he deserves to be coach of the year. He can score from the field and the line but doesn't do anything else. I'm not sorry at all to see him leaving Oakland. (ETA: and based on earlier comments, neither are any other Ws fans on this board)CDR for #44 is a decent risk/reward trade. If he gets his head on straight and performs in camp, he could be a rotation guy for the Bucks. If he doesn't, he's cheap to cut. A late second rounder is the equivalent of a D-league player.
No way. I'd rather have all that money for those years. CDR is terrible IMO, and Magette has offense, but paid like a premium player.I certainly agree they bought offense, but they were really on the right track IMO building through the draft. They would be better off IMO buying these late 1st round picks that people suddenly seem willing to deal.
I meant what you said.CRD and Maggette both seem like guys that don't have basketball brains.
Bogut can score from the block and is a good passer. The Bucks are lacking shooters unless Michael Redd can stay healthy. Maggette helps a bit but he's more of a scorer than a spot up shooter. Delfino and Jennings are inconsistent shooters but I'm hopeful that Jennings can develop some range as he matures.
I actually think he's one of the most underrated players in the league. I still they needed a finisher / someone that can create their own offense. I like both deals they've pulled off. CDR > #44 pick. Maggette > 2 afterthoughts. And they've also got Redd's ~$18 mil expiring contract in their pocket to add another piece.
Yeah, they may well get it anyway. The only way that Redd is valuable is with a trade. And unless the Bucks are willing get a pile of spare parts for him, then they will likely get a player with a longer, fairly lucrative contract. It's the way small market teams build themselves in the NBA.
Thought he was going to be this era's Derrick Coleman. Great talent, 2 cent head & lacks work ethic. I still think he'll have a few good seasons ahead of him if he lands on a team that will make him a greater offensive priority. I think he'd make a good addition as a part of an Amare sign & trade, but I know Phoenix wasn't interested in him during the Amare in-season talks. Things may change with Kerr gone (as Beasley is cheap [something owner Robert Sarver loves]-- and I think the odds of Amare returning now are slim to none)
Beasley has a way to go to equal Coleman's ability to put up numbers for bad teams. Coleman was consistently around 20/10 until injuries and his laziness caught up with him. Beasley is a tweener who can't create his own shot. He has the ability to be a decent player if he works hard at rounding out his game, but he hasn't shown any indications of the maturity he needs to develop.
I don't know much about these guys other than Cole Aldrich being a big useless white dude. Any of them have potential?
I know, look at the bolded part, I accounted for all three years.
Billy Owens is a better comparison at this point in Beasley's career. Except Owens was probably a little bit better.
Forgive me. Me no read so well.
i like beasley a lot and think a change of scenery would do him some good. i think miami was a bad fit for him. spoelestra isn't much of a coach and the team has been built around wade. it seemed like beasley put up good numbers during games where wade wasn't playing, so his game can translate well to the nba. he isn't much of a defender but that isn't noteworthy in the nba.
Owens was a pretty decent passer when he was so inclined, which wasn't often.
I wonder if they'd offer that to San Antonio for Parker.
salaries don't work really for the spurs with only parker.
I think Maggette - Bell is around $6mm in 2011.Regardless, there are much better ways to spend $10 mil a year in the NBA. I'm glad the Warriors have figured this out.Eviloutsider said:
Does Duke count?
he really didnt even play that much at Duke either IIRC.
i like the move too. he has one job to do and should be good at it for the bucks. is he the cheapest or most affordable option for the job? no, but this is looks like milwaukee's best option. the theatre between corey and skiles ought to be epic. i expect them to move redd next year too.
17 mpg, 10.6 ppg.He did make the 2nd round of the playoffs with the Clips in 2006.
If you are looking for an efficient 20ppg guy and dont care about the rest of his game, there probably isn't a cheaper option. He is one of the best dozen scorers in the league and is paid like a third banana, with the entire package considered, I think he's a fair value.
