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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (8 Viewers)

Notorious T.R.E. said:
Troy Murphy ($12M expiring)TJ Ford ($8.5M expiring) or Jeff Foster ($6.7M expiring) or Mike Dunleavy ($10.5M expiring)Paul George ($2.2M)1st round Pickfor Paul/OkaforNew Orleans gets 20M in expiring contracts, a solid player in Murphy that they may want to re-sign. Paul George at the wing and a pick. Indiana is no longer redundant at the SF with Granger/George and gets the legit PG they need.
As an Indy native and Pacers fan, this is my dream trade. Pairs Paul with Granger and the Pacers still have around $12 million expiring next summer to attract another high quality player in FA.I can't imagine this trade actually happening from N.O.'s standpoint, but is fun to think wishfully.ETA: While I'm wishfully thinking, I'll just play out my dream scenario. Paul comes over in this deal, and Hibbert continues to improve to become an offensive force in the paint. Okafor remains the healthy, steady contributor he can be. The growing young nucleus couple with cap space convinces Melo to look towards Indy in free agency next summer. It leaves the Pacers with a starting five of Paul, Melo, Granger, Okafor, Hibbert with solid contributors off the bench in Dahntay Jones, Brandon Rush, Tyler Hansbrough, and hopefully a developing Lance Stephenson. I think that roster is equal to or greater than Miami's Bosh/Wade/James + spare parts. I realize this is all completely fabricated and in no way, shape, or form will it ever actually occur but I CAN DREAM CAN'T I?
 
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Unless I'm using that trade machine wrong, it's going to be painful for the Knicks to make a deal work in which they have to get Okafur too.

The trade with the least # of players for the Knicks has them giving up:

Curry, Turiaf, Douglas or Chandler, Galinari and Azibuike

for Okafur and Paul

All the players coming over for the Knicks would be playing out 1 year deals, but other than that, it doesn't seem real attractive if you're the Hornets. It also makes the cupboard pretty bare for the Knicks, and makes the just signed Felton redundant for 7 million a year. I guess maybe if the Knicks offered Randolph instead of Douglas/Chandler it'd be more enticing for NO - but the Knicks roster depth would be even more sad. But the Hollinger +/- wins thing on the trade machine gives the Knicks +19 wins if that deal is made with Randolph. :unsure:

Paul really picked the absolutely wrong time to make this demand - had he done it prior to the free agent signings he probably could have ended up on one of the teams on his wish list more easily.

 
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Paul to the T-Wolves for Jonny Flynn (or Ramon Sessions) and the trade exception from the Jefferson trade plus a couple first rounders?

 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is

 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is
EO is Emeka Okafor, and they don't have the midlevel, nor can you trade it.
 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is
Not sure how this can work when the 4 New York salaries are less than HALF the salaries of Chris Paul and Okafor.The trade might work if it was for Chris Paul only.....but why would New Orleans do that?

 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is
EO is Emeka Okafor, and they don't have the midlevel, nor can you trade it.
:moneybag:
 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is
Not sure how this can work when the 4 New York salaries are less than HALF the salaries of Chris Paul and Okafor.The trade might work if it was for Chris Paul only.....but why would New Orleans do that?
The trade wont work I was posting for comedic value only, which can only be appreciated by clicking on the link.
 
I dont know where to put this so ill drop it here

TheReal_TMAC

i would have been a bull on draft day in '97....krause was moving up to get me but bulls would have to part with pipp...mj killed deal....
On Thursday 22nd July 2010, @cgrock24 said:

Asked by @okayandys if @TheReal_TMAC quote: http://bit.ly/ak7T8m was true. Sam Smith's account is accurate: http://bit.ly/aGK7CT Here's what I remember. I was the main contact for agents during the draft when it came to scheduling players' visits. Tracy arrived with his high school coach, Joel Hopkins. I picked them up at the airport. A lot of teams send limousines. I always believed that a Bulls employee should pick prospective draft picks up at the airport. I viewed it as an opportunity to have one-on-one time with a player. Key people in the organizations met with Tracy at different times. The team was seriously considering moving up in the draft to take him. Our evaluation process was extremely thorough. Psychological testing, agility drills measure my sensors and recorded on a computer. On the court drills that test shooting, ball handling, explosiveness and a player's tactical/conceptual abilities. One of the key test that the Bulls conducted was developed by Al Vermiel, who was the Bulls head strength and conditioning coach at the time. Here's something that I'm sure was never made public and probably didn't show up in Tracy's physicals conducted by the league. Al & Erik Helland,current Bulls strength & conditioning coach, would manipulate all parts of the body to gauge a player's flexibility. Through this testing, Al Vermeil predicted that Tracy would have back problems. Al got that one right. Through genetic fate, Tracy McGrady was destined to have problems with his back throughout his career.

Some unique things were done in evaluating Tracy. He was interviewed multiple times by key people in the organization. I can remember having a breakfast meeting with Jerry, Tracy and Joel. I will never forget the look that Tracy had when he put on a Bulls uniform (this was never done for any other draft prospect)and stepped on the Berto Center court to shoot around. The glee that was on his face was indescribable. He just bounced up and down with excitement before heading to the basket. You could just sense that he was feeling that everything he had ever dreamed about in regards to basketball was about ready to be realized.

Michael Jordan was invited to attend Tracy's workout. Michael was consulted. He was also consulted on another player. Antonio McDyess. Michael's input was valued, but after both workouts, the consensus opinion among all the key basketball personnel as well as the owner, was that Scotty Pippen should not be moved for these young players. Even though Tracy thinks Michael killed the deal, he wasn't the only one that shared that opinion. The Bulls explored their options, did a thorough job of evaluating the prospect, and decided that it would not be in the best interest to select Tracy or Antonio McDyess.

ADDED BONUS: Here are my Tracy McGrady H.S. Reports. I first saw Tracy at the ABCD Adidas Camp in New Jersey in July, 1996. He was a virtual unknown going into the camp and was the talk of the camp by the time it had ended. I wrote a few notes on him at ABCD, but prefer to see kids first in their own environment, and then in an all-star format. I would see Tracy play three times with his high school team: Mt. Zion Christian Academy in Durham, NC. I saw him in 12/96 at a tournament in Las Vegas. There was a lot of talent at this tournament. The Collins' twins (Harvard-Westlake),Lamar Odom, and Tayshun Prince were the class of the L.V. Tournament.

Enjoy:

I was able to see Tracy against very good competition. Played Mater-Dei in the morning game. Mt. Zion is one of the best high school teams that I have ever seen. Superior talent. Like him as a big

guard, but he will also be able to play the small forward spot. Great basketball body and

outstanding physical tools. Long and lean. Narrow shoulders and very long arms but his sleeve

length is not as long as Odom's. Big hands. Torso is a little long but he has nice proportions.

Outstanding jumper - Great two footed jumper who is exceptionally quick off his feet. Like his

ability to rebound on both ends of the floor. Great quickness to the ball and the ability to control

tips with either hand. Good effort and energy. Impressed with his ability to raise his level of play

in crunch time. ##### 2 guard skills. Much more aggressive than Odom in looking for his offense.

See some Spreewell in him, but he is a much better attacker than Spreewell from the wing.

Scorer's mentality, with an unselfish streak. Took over championship game in crunch time. His

ability to penetrate off the dribble and finish from the wing is second to none. Great body control

- plays very effectively in space and has the ability to evade defenders and adjust body in the air.

Serious hang time. Excellent speed and quickness. Very light on his feet. Speed and acceleration

in the open court. Makes athletic plays on both ends of the floor. Excellent ball handling skills -

Low handle. I like his makeup. Leadership qualities. Even-tempered. Maintains composure -

keeps his teammate in check. Strong left hand. Handles equally well with his left or right hand.

Offense goes through him when the game is on the line and he makes positive things happen.

Good court vision and solid passing skills. Breakdown game - loves to penetrate off the dribble

and does a good job of passing while on the move. Has play-making ability. Needs to develop

consistency in mid-range shooting off the dribble. So strong going to his left - able to slither

through the open seams of the defense. Follows his shots very well. Will be able to rebound in

traffic. Release is ok. Demonstrates ability to shoot with range from the 3 point line. Will be a

good shooter in time, but it's so easy for him to get to the rim at this level. Go to player. Special

scoring ability - I got chills watching him take over the championship game. Some of his forays to

the basket were something to behold. Excellent footwork. Good first step quickness. Jab step

right, strong move to his left and mid-air adjustment to finish with a finger roll. Great elevation off the dribble and shoots shot as he is coming down. Aspects of his game remind me of both

Jordan and Pippen. He is in their class as an athlete. Stronger than he looks - ability to finish withcontact. Good hands - controls lob pass with one hand. Plays at the point of the press on the

defensive end. Applies good pressure on the ball in the zone. Good work ethic as a defender.

Can cover ground - exceptional ability to recover back to the ball. Ability to challenge shooters on

the wing with his defensive range. Able to power out off a defensive rebound and make plays in

break situations. Great reactions - pursuit and quickness to the ball is exceptional. Has all the

tools to be a great defender. The basketball world is his oyster. I think he is a special talent. He is

an easy lottery pick and would have a chance to be a Number 1 pick if he attended college for a

few years. Would like to talk to Hill to get a feel for him as a person, but my gut reaction is that he

will be a good gamble for a pro team. Type of player who you can build a team around. I like him

better than Odom. I also like the fact that his coach is a taskmaster. Born on 5/24/79.

Also saw him in Durham on 1/10/97 against a poor team: Atlantic Shore.

Competition level was lousy but I am still able to gain some insight about his game. Likes to put on

a show. Playing to the home crowd. Behavior is immature at times - wolfing, staring his man down

after a dunk, etc. Love as a prospect. Great basketball body. Special talent and great physical tools. Has a nastiness about him. Killer instinct - Taking no prisoners even though the competition is

lousy. Jumps so effortlessly and quickly. Does a lot with his left hand. Strong driver to his left.

Great two footed jumping ability. Hits quick three off out of bounds situation. Release looks good.

Hits 3 straight 3' s - shots were not contested. Ability to glide, alter and adjust body in the air.

Excellent body control. Powers up the court with left hand in leading the break - finds the open man

in transition. Will advance the ball on the break. Able to effectively lead the break - able to push the

ball and make the play via the pass. Unreal Dunk - winds up and slams it through - special jumping

ability. Reminiscent of one of Pippen's/Jordan's extraordinary dunks. Like his passing ability in

break situations. Quick, touch passes from the wing. Missing badly from outside in the second half

but shooting will come in time. Has potential as a spot shooter. Obviously I have some concerns

about his ability to compete defensively in the NBA - He will have to be nurtured. Like his

athleticism, body type, and quickness as a defender. He has been playing high defensively but he got

low and applied some defensive pressure in the second half. Shows excellent recovery abilities and

defensive range. Blocks shots with his left hand. Rips the rebound with his left hand and powers out

to lead break.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/2m5h6a

 
Check out this breaking twitter news

http://twitter.com/AnthonyMSG/status/19266727556

Guy looks legit to me, LOL at little girl in the picture.

His Twitter: Spoke to #Knicks source. Saying The #Knicks are offering Chandler, Randolph,Azubuike, Turiaf, and The Mid Level to NO for CP and E.O.

Didnt realize the Knicks had a mid level exception since they were under the cap and also dont know who or what E.O. is
EO is Emeka Okafor, and they don't have the midlevel, nor can you trade it.
Chandler

Randolph

Azu

Tur

Curry

(All 1 year contracts)

or

Battier

Brooks

Hayes (or Jordan Hill)

Jeffries

Ariza (3 yr)

All but Ariza have 1 year contracts

Plus a 1st round pick (either Knick swap rights or Rock/Knicks 1st round in 2012)

 
Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey

bill simmons twitter

thoughts? :popcorn:

 
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Another BS tweet

CP3 waited too long: had he gone public last month, NYK-NJ-Dal had the cap room/assets to deal. The most realistic matches now: Hou or Bos.

 
Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Poseybill simmons twitterthoughts? :goodposting:
Trade Machine says the Celts would have to include more salary.
And it seems like NO is intent on including Okafor to dump salary, no?I wonder if the Lakers are kicking themselves in the ### for signing Blake and Fisher right now.
Maybe. It'd certainly be at least plausible to have consider it back then, but I still don't think it's realistic. Remember Blake was signed on the midlevel exception - so his salary can't be considered in terms of cap space the Lakers had to work with. They could still do something like Bynum, Vujacic and Walton for Okafor and Paul. I don't know that NO would want to. Hollinger puts that at a +8 wins for the Lakers.
 
Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Poseybill simmons twitterthoughts? :shrug:
Trade Machine says the Celts would have to include more salary.
And it seems like NO is intent on including Okafor to dump salary, no?I wonder if the Lakers are kicking themselves in the ### for signing Blake and Fisher right now.
Maybe. It'd certainly be at least plausible to have consider it back then, but I still don't think it's realistic. Remember Blake was signed on the midlevel exception - so his salary can't be considered in terms of cap space the Lakers had to work with. They could still do something like Bynum, Vujacic and Walton for Okafor and Paul. I don't know that NO would want to. Hollinger puts that at a +8 wins for the Lakers.
That would be absolutely horrible for NO. They'd be better off grabbing the role players from Houston.
 
Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Poseybill simmons twitterthoughts? :goodposting:
Trade Machine says the Celts would have to include more salary.
And it seems like NO is intent on including Okafor to dump salary, no?I wonder if the Lakers are kicking themselves in the ### for signing Blake and Fisher right now.
Maybe. It'd certainly be at least plausible to have consider it back then, but I still don't think it's realistic. Remember Blake was signed on the midlevel exception - so his salary can't be considered in terms of cap space the Lakers had to work with. They could still do something like Bynum, Vujacic and Walton for Okafor and Paul. I don't know that NO would want to. Hollinger puts that at a +8 wins for the Lakers.
That would be absolutely horrible for NO. They'd be better off grabbing the role players from Houston.
Yeah I don't see how a Lakers/Hornets deal makes sense. Broussard is saying the Lakers aren't on Paul's list anyway.
 
Chris Paul is my favorite current basketball player but, even though I understand how little his team has done to build a winning squad around him, I hope he doesnt get his way. One of the nice things about the NBA's system is that the midmarket teams get a chance now & then, by drafting a superstar in the sport where that has the most immediate effect, to establish an identity (as Cleveland did) and move up in the world. After the whole Superfriends thing, if CP3 can engineer his exit, new stars are gonna be lobbying for their ultimate situation from the moment theyre drafted. Bad trend.

 
Matt Barnes has agreed in principle on a two-year, $3.6 million deal with the Lakers, league sources tell Y! He's expected to sign tonight.
:scared: Thank you Toronto for not understanding the salary cap.Kinda feel bad for Matt, loses about 6 million but gets to live in LA and a shot at a ring.
 
Cliff, what are your thoughts on the likely Matt Barnes to the Raps deal?

I've always liked Barnes when I've seen him with GSW, PHO and most recently ORL, but I'm not sure if he isn't redundant on the Raps. He seems to give you pretty much what Kleiza will and with the development of Weems and DeRozan the depth looks to be great at the SG/SF spot, especially when you factor in Belinelli and Barbosa getting some burn at the 2.

The Raptors certainly look like a team that will push the ball and play more of a run and gun style, which should make watching the games at least interesting, but I'm still not sure how that starting lineup will shake out.
I like it. I wish they would have made a play for him the last time he was a free agent (last year or the year before?). Deal might not be done though (Barnes deal hits a snag). I think he makes the Kleiza deal look pretty bad. Barnes isn't quite as good on the offensive end, but he defense/toughness/attitude is far better than Kleiza. He would have been a great addition to the team last year instead Turk when offense wasn't a problem and the defense was embarassing... to put it nicely.Jack / Barbosa / Banks

Derozan / Weems / Bellini

Barnes / Kleiza
:scared:

 
Not only losing out on 6M, but also probably a starting gig. Yea, the ring is nice if he wins one, but still a pretty sucky situation for him (you know, comparatively speaking).

What happened to Cleveland's interest in Barnes?

 
Not only losing out on 6M, but also probably a starting gig. Yea, the ring is nice if he wins one, but still a pretty sucky situation for him (you know, comparatively speaking).What happened to Cleveland's interest in Barnes?
Rumors are they offered him 2 years 7 mil. He wanted the contract he was getting from Toronto and the Cavs refused, so he gave up about 3 million over 2 years and signed with the Lakers.ETA article
Matt Barnes to sign with NBA Champion Lakers Free-agent forward Matt Barnes(notes) has reached agreement on a two-year, $3.6 million contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Barnes will likely sign the contract on Friday. The deal will pay him $1.7 million next season and give him a player option for $1.9 million in 2011-12. The Cleveland Cavaliers had guaranteed $7 million over two years with a team option for a third season, but Barnes wanted more guaranteed money to sign with a non-championship contender. Cleveland refused to improve its offer and ultimately was willing to let Barnes go to a lower bidder. The Lakers also signed veteran center Theo Ratliff(notes) on Thursday.
 
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Matt Barnes has agreed in principle on a two-year, $3.6 million deal with the Lakers, league sources tell Y! He's expected to sign tonight.
:scared: Thank you Toronto for not understanding the salary cap.

Kinda feel bad for Matt, loses about 6 million but gets to live in LA and a shot at a ring.
2nd year is a player option. I thought for sure it was just a ruse to try to get a few more dollars from Clevelandhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-lakersbarnes072210

 
Matt Barnes has agreed in principle on a two-year, $3.6 million deal with the Lakers, league sources tell Y! He's expected to sign tonight.
:thumbup: Thank you Toronto for not understanding the salary cap.

Kinda feel bad for Matt, loses about 6 million but gets to live in LA and a shot at a ring.
2nd year is a player option. I thought for sure it was just a ruse to try to get a few more dollars from Clevelandhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-lakersbarnes072210
Rumors at the start of the offseason is that Buss didnt want to use the MLE. Now with that MLE, Mitch brought in Matt Barnes and Steve Blake. :scared: :hey:
 
Matt Barnes has agreed in principle on a two-year, $3.6 million deal with the Lakers, league sources tell Y! He's expected to sign tonight.
:lmao: Thank you Toronto for not understanding the salary cap.

Kinda feel bad for Matt, loses about 6 million but gets to live in LA and a shot at a ring.
2nd year is a player option. I thought for sure it was just a ruse to try to get a few more dollars from Clevelandhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-lakersbarnes072210
Rumors at the start of the offseason is that Buss didnt want to use the MLE. Now with that MLE, Mitch brought in Matt Barnes and Steve Blake. :goodposting: :tinfoilhat:
Do you think this has any impact on Shannon Brown re-signing?
 
Matt Barnes has agreed in principle on a two-year, $3.6 million deal with the Lakers, league sources tell Y! He's expected to sign tonight.
:lmao: Thank you Toronto for not understanding the salary cap.

Kinda feel bad for Matt, loses about 6 million but gets to live in LA and a shot at a ring.
2nd year is a player option. I thought for sure it was just a ruse to try to get a few more dollars from Clevelandhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-lakersbarnes072210
Rumors at the start of the offseason is that Buss didnt want to use the MLE. Now with that MLE, Mitch brought in Matt Barnes and Steve Blake. :goodposting: :shrug:
Do you think this has any impact on Shannon Brown re-signing?
Probably less likely to resign him, if at all. I heard Bulls and Cavs linked to him.
 
Bulls would be doing a great job if they could get Shannon Brown.

Rose, Watson

Brewer, Brown

Deng, Korver

Boozer, Gibson

Noah, Asik

 
Rondo + Sheed's waivable deal + '11 no. 1 + 3 mill for CP3 + Posey

bill simmons twitter

thoughts? :lmao:
Trade Machine says the Celts would have to include more salary.
And it seems like NO is intent on including Okafor to dump salary, no?I wonder if the Lakers are kicking themselves in the ### for signing Blake and Fisher right now.
Maybe. It'd certainly be at least plausible to have consider it back then, but I still don't think it's realistic. Remember Blake was signed on the midlevel exception - so his salary can't be considered in terms of cap space the Lakers had to work with. They could still do something like Bynum, Vujacic and Walton for Okafor and Paul. I don't know that NO would want to. Hollinger puts that at a +8 wins for the Lakers.
If you were pulling the trade in NO would you take that offer or the one I mentioned with the Rockets that also includes a 1st round pick (Knick swap) and possible the Knicks pick in 2012? Walton has three years left so if I'm NO I would rather have Ariza at 3 yrs than Walton at 3 years.
 
Not only losing out on 6M, but also probably a starting gig. Yea, the ring is nice if he wins one, but still a pretty sucky situation for him (you know, comparatively speaking).What happened to Cleveland's interest in Barnes?
Getting a ring is great but isn't that really more important for the players who make insane money? If I was Barnes I would rather have 6m guaranteed than a shot at getting a ring where you won't be a key part in getting one.
 
Chris Paul speculation gains life, will Houston Rockets pursue?22 Jul 2010 08:58 PMby rahat huqKen Berger: When Paul was quoted a few weeks ago as saying he’d be open to a trade if the Hornets aren’t committed to building a championship team, it was only a small hint as to the size of the chasm that exists between the franchise and its cornerstone player. Paul, in fact, has put into motion an aggressive exit strategy that will accelerate in the coming weeks, and his clear intention is to be traded before the start of the 2010-11 season, a person with direct knowledge of his plans told CBSSports.com Wednesday.To begin, many apologies for my truancy. I needed to take care of some design changes but was not expecting the league’s best point guard to hit the market during my hiatus. We have much to discuss.We’ll work our way through the matter, from top to bottom, in sort of an inverted pyramid manner, touching on the broadest issues first. No other logical by which to proceed.To begin, could the Rockets even make an offer if they wanted? Paul has allegedly narrowed his choices down to a select few teams, the Rockets not being among them. Yet he has two years remaining on his deal, thus not having the same leverage usually present in these sorts of situations (when the star player announces he just won’t re-sign with that particular team.) On the other hand, as we’ve seen in the past, Paul could just refuse to report and kill the deal, an outside-the-rules reality in the post-generation-X NBA. So could the Rockets even enter the bidding? I don’t know. (For those of you wondering why stars aren’t tripping over themselves to relocate to the Bayou City, take off the homer glasses – I’ll touch on this later.)Moving on, should the Rockets make a pitch, knowing they run the risk of losing Paul altogether when his contract expires? Absolutely. From top to bottom, this team has pieces which fit perfectly and in a complementary manner, giving the Rockets hope for the playoffs. For a player the caliber of Paul, that all goes out the window.There’s a strong case to be made that the player of whom we are speaking has been the best point guard in basketball since Magic Johnson. This is a legitimate top-5 talent, in the prime of his career. Getting Chris Paul immediately enters you in the discussion for championships, so long as you can build a supporting cast, which Daryl Morey can. It’s these elite level talents which are so rare to find, and if you can acquire one, you do it, the system be damned.What would it take? For starters, you’ll have to take back Emeka Okafor. The deal would require, at the least, Aaron Brooks, Jordan Hill, and picks (with the larger contracts of any combination of Battier, Jeffries, and Ariza to make the numbers match.) Frankly speaking, you’ll have to give up a king’s ransom.Do the Rockets have a chance? It all depends on Paul. If he won’t agree to come, it’s a moot point. If he signed off on a deal, I don’t see a team out there that can offer the Hornets a better package.Would the Rockets pursue a deal? I think so. Daryl Morey has spoken at length of the need to acquire an elite level talent. He’s been saving for this moment for the last two years and now would be that chance to break the proverbial piggy bank and make “his” move.While Okafor owns the most flagrant contract currently in basketball, this is a player with considerable on-court worth; we’re not talking about Eddy Curry. He can anchor a defense and keep Yao fresh, platooning with Scola to give the Rockets an impressive big-man trio.A lineup of Paul, Martin, Yao, and Scola, with Lowry, Okafor, and whichever of Ariza/Budinger wasn’t dealt could contend now.More importantly, and this is just me speculating, I wonder if there could be stipulations in the new collective bargaining agreement which would allow for a team to more easily retain its talent (ie: greater disparity between maximum annual raises, a franchise tag etc.) Were that the case, I’d bet Morey would be more than willing to gamble on Paul, liking his chances to re-sign him in two summers.
 
Not only losing out on 6M, but also probably a starting gig. Yea, the ring is nice if he wins one, but still a pretty sucky situation for him (you know, comparatively speaking).What happened to Cleveland's interest in Barnes?
Getting a ring is great but isn't that really more important for the players who make insane money? If I was Barnes I would rather have 6m guaranteed than a shot at getting a ring where you won't be a key part in getting one.
Barnes is going to get 20-25mins a game. He will be a key part of the team.
 
If you are the Bucks, would you trade Jennings for Paul (knowing Paul would most likely not resign with Milwaukee). Just a conversation some friends and I had.

 
Bulls would be doing a great job if they could get Shannon Brown.Rose, WatsonBrewer, BrownDeng, KorverBoozer, GibsonNoah, Asik
As a Bulls fan, I have mixed feelings. Obviously he wouldn't hurt but I don't know how much he really adds. Brewer and Watson can do a lot of what Brown does. The Bulls could benefit more by adding a second wing to Korver that can hits threes.
 
What would it take? For starters, you’ll have to take back Emeka Okafor. The deal would require, at the least, Aaron Brooks, Jordan Hill, and picks (with the larger contracts of any combination of Battier, Jeffries, and Ariza to make the numbers match.) Frankly speaking, you’ll have to give up a king’s ransom.
"any combination"? More like "all 3 of them"! :excited:
 
Could break up into two trades especially if there's not a team out there who offers up an up and coming younger player (unlikely) or established one (unlikely) so they would probably want more picks:

Jeffries + Andersen + cash 4 Okafor.

Brooks + Hill + Battier and 2-3 Firsts for Paul

 
If you are the Bucks, would you trade Jennings for Paul (knowing Paul would most likely not resign with Milwaukee). Just a conversation some friends and I had.
Wouldn't work for a Jennings for Paul trade.
It would if throw Redd in there.
14mm vs 20mm so wouldn't work and I am fairly sure the NO wants to dump OkaforSomething like Jennings + Redd + (Either Delfino or Ilyasova)for Okafor and Paul
 
I'm not a huge Matt Barnes fan, but for that money, that is a steal. Lakers nailed the use of their MLE this year. If they had spent the entire thing on either one of Blake or Barnes, it may have been a slight overpay, but it would have been a nice addition to their rotation. To get both is incredible.

I think Matt Barnes is either allergic to money or has the freaking worst agent who has ever lived. His entire career he us signed what seem to be way undermarket deals.

 
If you are the Bucks, would you trade Jennings for Paul (knowing Paul would most likely not resign with Milwaukee). Just a conversation some friends and I had.
Wouldn't work for a Jennings for Paul trade.
It would if throw Redd in there.
14mm vs 20mm so wouldn't work and I am fairly sure the NO wants to dump OkaforSomething like Jennings + Redd + (Either Delfino or Ilyasova)for Okafor and Paul
The Hornets don't want a PG. If they trade Paul it is somewhat because they think Collison can be an above average PG.
 

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