*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (8 Viewers)

[DrJ]

I was thinking more like 2 of 18 for 12 points, like James did against Boston - only to follow that up with 6 for 24 for 21 pts, 5 for 16 for 21 pts, and 7 for 20 for 21 point performances. Jordan was never able to sustain that level of suck for that long. Or single-handedly cost his team a series like that.

Or maybe something like what James did against Dallas - 6 for 14 for 17 pts, 3 for 11 for 8 pts, 8 of 19 for 17 pts... just laying goose eggs in the middle of a final series. Again, a level of suck that Jordan could never come close to maintaining.

Didn't James' team win some of those games? Are you saying he should have shot more, even if the shots he had available were worse than the shots his teammates had and cost his team a win, so that he could match Jordan's scoring output in playoff losses? That seems like a pretty terrible strategy.

The point is that the comparison is really stupid. Yes, Jordan did lots of things in his career, good and bad, that LeBron has not. And LeBron has done lots of things in his career, good and bad, that Jordan did not. That's why a statement like "Lebron has fallen short in the playoffs numerous times in ways that Jordan didn't during the course of his career, and there's nothing James can do from now until the end of his career that can change that" is silly. Because you can switch the names and say the exact same thing. It's a terrible argument.

Your straw man has you grabbing at straws. James was a choker. He seems to have improved in that area, but he'll always be a guy that was a choker for the first half of his career.

Holy Christ. It's like a flashback to 2011! Except now the argument is even stupider than it was back then.

OK, sure. Go on pretending the early career playoff game-winners and incredible performances never happened. You and Skip Bayless and Gregg Doyel can stay the same stubborn fools who make the facts fit their silly narrative instead of the other way around. The rest of us know better.

The rest of who? You're the one pretending that certain performances didn't happen. The people like you who want to give passes on these performances and suggest James is as good as Jordan was are in the minority, I'm not really sure why I care about what straws you want to grab in your quest.

Count me in the rest. You are off your rocker if you think LeBrons story has been written completely. He's on a historic run, and has a chance to go down as GOAT. Already the best since MJ IMO and still at the top, so who knows? Jordan's failures seem to be forgotten by you, as with many, over time. He was the best, but fell flat just as bad at times.

If you guys keep saying this enough, it might actually become true. Or not.

 

[sports_fan]

Kevin Love is in Boston for the weekend. Was at the Greatest Bar last night, going to Del Frisco's and the Sox game today. Checking out the city..

There's a restaurant in Boston that serves a sandwich named after him. So it's pretty much a done deal.

 

[CurlyNight]

What kind of contract do you expect Stephenson to get? Also do you think he will stay with the Pacers? I'm guessing he ends up elsewhere to tune of about 7-8 mil over 4 years.

He seems like Ron artest but not as good. It's like John Starks or Byron Russell vs Jordan.

Is he back to Ron Artest or is he still on the Metta World Peace gig?

 

[thecatch]

What kind of contract do you expect Stephenson to get? Also do you think he will stay with the Pacers? I'm guessing he ends up elsewhere to tune of about 7-8 mil over 4 years.

I'd be surprised if he still gets that. (Years wise, at least)

 

[Abraham]

3 for 35 from a team like Charlotte or the wolves.

2 for 20 from a team like Chicago.

Here's a wild card team that could use him: okc. His job is to ease the defensive burden on Westbrook and shoot wide open threes.

 

[Britney Spears]

3 for 35 from a team like Charlotte or the wolves.

2 for 20 from a team like Chicago.

Here's a wild card team that could use him: okc. His job is to ease the defensive burden on Westbrook and shoot wide open threes.

Would set a new record for dribbles in a game.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Kevin Love is in Boston for the weekend. Was at the Greatest Bar last night, going to Del Frisco's and the Sox game today. Checking out the city..

A couple of Boston girls need to do the right thing and take it off the chin or in the eye for the good of the city.

 

[Freelove]

8 million annually seems about right. I think his playoff antics will cost him some money long term.

Seems like the perfect guy a middling franchise will overspend for and he disappoints.

I hope the Pistons don't have enough cap space to sign him

Something useful may come of that Josh Smith deal yet!

 

[Abraham]

Kevin Love is in Boston for the weekend. Was at the Greatest Bar last night, going to Del Frisco's and the Sox game today. Checking out the city..

A couple of Boston girls need to do the right thing and take it off the chin or in the eye for the good of the city.

I didn't think boston girls were reluctant to do that kind of thing in the first place.

 

[Popinski]

It's really hard to argue that anyone has been more dominant then Lebron since Jordan retired.

Shaq defined dominance

Shaq's peak, when he was playing elite defense, was as good as any player's in NBA history, including that of Jordan. The issue when placing his career into historical perspective, is that his peak only lasted a few years. Barring injury, sudden lack of motivation, etc, LeBron should pass Shaq in all time rankings when his career is over.

 

[CurlyNight]

<_< I doubt history will be made tonight.

 

[Abraham]

<_< I doubt history will be made tonight.

I don't think you understand what "history" is. It's made every night. And every day.

 

[CurlyNight]

<_< I doubt history will be made tonight.

I don't think you understand what "history" is. It's made every night. And every day.

Very funny...........

 

[Routilla]

Go Spurs!

 

[CurlyNight]

Go Spurs!

 

[CurlyNight]

Damn! TP! :(

 

[got_nugs]

Damn! TP! :(

I hate when I run out, too. Use your hand?

 

[Abraham]

Durant is good at this.

 

[timschochet]

37 point quarter for the Spurs. And that's without Parker. Damn.

 

[timschochet]

Looks like Vogel's coming back.

 

[metoo]

The Spurs look better without Parker and his dribbling.

 

[Jayrod]

Spurs are so fun to watch.

 

[CurlyNight]

Too much time left......... :/

 

[ShaqAttaq]

Looking like game 7 will happen

 

[Abraham]

Five thunder players have scored. That has to be a record for a playoff game.

 

[CurlyNight]

Looking like game 7 will happen

I think so too. SA can't keep a decent lead.. :/

 

[CurlyNight]

Frick. :/

 

[thecatch]

Huge blown call

 

[ShaqAttaq]

Five thunder players have scored. That has to be a record for a playoff game.

it's their achilles heel

 

[Abraham]

How do you call time out there with the ball in your best players hands ?

 

[got_nugs]

Huge blown call

HUGE

 

[got_nugs]

How do you call time out there with the ball in your best players hands ?

Durant looked HOT about that

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

How do you call time out there with the ball in

your best players hands ?

Durant looked HOT about that

I think he wanted 2 for 1 there

 

[thecatch]

Huge blown call

HUGE

Hard to believe we spent four hours reviewing out of bounds calls earlier in the playoffs but that can't be looked at.

 

[Abraham]

Well this is fun.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Foul on Duncan there

 

[CurlyNight]

Ginobollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

 

[ArbyMelt]

Make up call, no call on illegal pick

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

MVP!

 

[Kev4029]

I can't believe that Fisher is in at the end of the game.

 

[got_nugs]

Manu missed a free throw with a huge game on the line? Feel like i've seen this before.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

How about not letting Westbrook blow right by your defense to the basket?

 

[CurlyNight]

I can't watch.....................

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Gotta finish that

 

[Jayrod]

Spurs get last shot. Let's get em Pops!

 

[Corporation]

Great game

 

[Abraham]

"I got ginoblli"

 

[Abraham]

I can't watch.....................

Don't worry. One of your 30 favorite teams will win!

 

[Jayrod]

Prediction: Diaw hits the game winner.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Wow