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[Bobcat10]

not enough LeBron talk in here lately

Another local reporter breaking something. The player had a bobblehead night last year. lol

Emmett Golden @egoldie80 · 28m
Source: Lebron has reached out to at least one of the Cavs players within the last week and told him, "get ready & be prepared."

 

[Kev4029]

If you think the Frye deal is bad, wait until you see what 4x22 of Chris Bosh looks like in a few years.

It sounds great now, but when he's 33 going on his 6th straight year of being on a team telling him, "hey, we're better off if you just stay out of the paint", I have a feeling HOU will start to wonder why they didn't just go get a Frye.

If it gets them to the finals in the next couple years, I don't think anybody in Houston will mind if he's overpaid.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Yea, but they took a bet a few days back at 40/1 - I can't see them just dropping the odds from 40 to like 15ish in a week with no signing and no confirmation of anything beyond a few rumors floating around. I'll be at MGM Saturday, curious to see what they are then.

Browns went from 200/1 to 30/1 in a short period of time.

http://www.bettingtalk.com/johnny-manziel-vegas-browns-super-bowl-odds/

Books don't like to open themselves up too much on things like this. If they started seeing people hammering Cleveland, they would drop that price in a hurry.

Sportsbook isn't a particularly sharp book and they are offering 10/1 odds on Cleveland right now.

 

[fantasycurse42]

not enough LeBron talk in here lately

Another local reporter breaking something. The player had a bobblehead night last year. lol

Emmett Golden @egoldie80 · 28m
Source: Lebron has reached out to at least one of the Cavs players within the last week and told him, "get ready & be prepared."

Man I hope this stays low key before Saturday, odds 1/5

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

RealGM ‏@RealGM 2m

Carl2680: Carmelo won't make decision until LeBron makes his. He's also eliminated the Bulls, Mavs & Rockets

If bosh goes to Houston, melo and lebron in Miami might be real.

John Schuhmann ‏@johnschuhmann 33m Q: How could the Heat operate as a capped team (signing McBob & Granger w/ exceptions) & also sign Melo w/ cap space


Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 29m
@johnschuhmann They cannot. League execs questioning why they made McRoberts commitment now. Most popular answer: They expect to keep Bosh

Yeah, according to his maths Melo and Wade would have to split 31MM: https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/486520754427920384

 

[fantasycurse42]

Yea, but they took a bet a few days back at 40/1 - I can't see them just dropping the odds from 40 to like 15ish in a week with no signing and no confirmation of anything beyond a few rumors floating around. I'll be at MGM Saturday, curious to see what they are then.

Browns went from 200/1 to 30/1 in a short period of time.

http://www.bettingtalk.com/johnny-manziel-vegas-browns-super-bowl-odds/

Books don't like to open themselves up too much on things like this. If they started seeing people hammering Cleveland, they would drop that price in a hurry.

Sportsbook isn't a particularly sharp book and they are offering 10/1 odds on Cleveland right now.

10/1 is absurd... Even if Lebron lands there, they still can't go much lower than what? 5/1?

& right now Lebron in Cleveland is still far from reality.

 

[thecatch]

If we are celebrating Pat Patterson at $6m and ripping Frye to shreds at $8m, we are really splitting hairs in here.

Don't forget the extra year. 35 year old Frye for only $8M is a steal of a deal.

I'm not exactly smitten with Patterson, but it seems that the Raptors gave him a contract that will pay him for his future production while the Magic gave Frye his contract for past production. Frye for $8M on last season's production is a bit of an overpayment, but over the next 4 years its going to be bad. Patterson isn't likely to see a decline in his abilities between 25 and 28.

Patterson was a much, much better player in Toronto than he was in Sacremento. If he continues that production, he'll be worth every penny. If he regresses back to his Sactown play, it'll be an overpay. I'd guess he'll regress a slight bit and the deal will end up being about right.

He'll be a useful player and will probably perform a little better than his full season averages last year, because Malone didn't use him very well with the Kings. But I'd rather have Frye in the short term and I can't get too worked up about a de minimis difference in their salaries, or Frye's extra year given ORL's otherwise clean cap sheet.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I like Frye as a locker room guy and a part-time veteran 4, but he was in serious decline as the season progressed last year. It could have been heavy legs after sitting out a year, but he was pretty much a bag of suck down the stretch.

I wouldn't give him 4/$32. I'm glad the Suns didn't give him 4/$32. For a team like Orlando, though... meh. I'm not going to get excited about it either way. What else are they going to do with that money? The $8 mil this year couldn't matter less. $8 mil the last year won't matter, as an $8 mil expiring contract for a guy like Frye is like crack for NBA execs. So the question is whether it's worth it to the Magic to have him for years 2 and 3 at $16 mil. That $16 mil isn't going to keep them from becoming contenders, he's a good vet around a young team, he'll play 15-20 mins/game in better condition than he was this year, and he's probably movable, if necessary, in a package with a young player. Again, meh.

 

[NutterButter]

Yea, but they took a bet a few days back at 40/1 - I can't see them just dropping the odds from 40 to like 15ish in a week with no signing and no confirmation of anything beyond a few rumors floating around. I'll be at MGM Saturday, curious to see what they are then.

Browns went from 200/1 to 30/1 in a short period of time.

http://www.bettingtalk.com/johnny-manziel-vegas-browns-super-bowl-odds/

Books don't like to open themselves up too much on things like this. If they started seeing people hammering Cleveland, they would drop that price in a hurry.

Sportsbook isn't a particularly sharp book and they are offering 10/1 odds on Cleveland right now.

10/1 is absurd... Even if Lebron lands there, they still can't go much lower than what? 5/1?

& right now Lebron in Cleveland is still far from reality.

Whatever it takes to get equal action on both sides.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Yea, but they took a bet a few days back at 40/1 - I can't see them just dropping the odds from 40 to like 15ish in a week with no signing and no confirmation of anything beyond a few rumors floating around. I'll be at MGM Saturday, curious to see what they are then.

Browns went from 200/1 to 30/1 in a short period of time.

http://www.bettingtalk.com/johnny-manziel-vegas-browns-super-bowl-odds/

Books don't like to open themselves up too much on things like this. If they started seeing people hammering Cleveland, they would drop that price in a hurry.

Sportsbook isn't a particularly sharp book and they are offering 10/1 odds on Cleveland right now.

10/1 is absurd... Even if Lebron lands there, they still can't go much lower than what? 5/1?

& right now Lebron in Cleveland is still far from reality.

Whatever it takes to get equal action on both sides.

I don't think anyone in their right mind is betting Cleveland at 10/1 right now... Maybe it is me, but those odds feel awful!

 

[Cliff Clavin]

He'll be a useful player and will probably perform a little better than his full season averages last year, because Malone didn't use him very well with the Kings. But I'd rather have Frye in the short term and I can't get too worked up about a de minimis difference in their salaries, or Frye's extra year given ORL's otherwise clean cap sheet.

Well sure, $2M doesn't mean much. But we're here to argue

 

[SWC]

if i am the heat i let chalmers go because he stinks and do not bring back douglas haslem or beasly or hamilton and i think real hard about if i want reshard lewis then i bring back anderson allen oden and the big three and i try my best to get ramon sessions and as many as possible of danny granger danger boris diaw and ariza and here is why the heat were the best when it was spacing and drive and kick to allen miller or battier while this year it was just allen and he had to handle the ball a lot because chalmers is horrible and wade turned 75 before the spurs series if you can get sessions he drives like crazy and if you can get granger and diaw they can space and pass and that lets bosh be lazy in the high post and james cut and go to the hole basically i would like to see a lot more motion on the heat o instead of giving it to wade or james and watching them dance around without going forward until the shot clock hits 7 and then take either a contested jumper or drive wildly and act like a piano fell on your head like wade does a lot that is what i think brohans take to the bank

hey brohans getting shabaz is sort of like getting sessions and now they have granger so hey heat fans just think about this the heat are doing what swc thinks which probably means you will stink on ice next year good luck with that one brohans and take that to the bank

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I like Frye as a locker room guy and a part-time veteran 4, but he was in serious decline as the season progressed last year. It could have been heavy legs after sitting out a year, but he was pretty much a bag of suck down the stretch.

His pre/post all-star splits are staggering

 

[Juxtatarot]

RealGM ‏@RealGM 2m

Carl2680: Carmelo won't make decision until LeBron makes his. He's also eliminated the Bulls, Mavs & Rockets

Although this might be true, I wouldn't trust RealGm tweets.

 

[Kev4029]

He'll be a useful player and will probably perform a little better than his full season averages last year, because Malone didn't use him very well with the Kings. But I'd rather have Frye in the short term and I can't get too worked up about a de minimis difference in their salaries, or Frye's extra year given ORL's otherwise clean cap sheet.

Well sure, $2M doesn't mean much. But we're here to argue

If I'm not arguing here, that means I'm working. #### that.

 

[sporthenry]

Yea, but they took a bet a few days back at 40/1 - I can't see them just dropping the odds from 40 to like 15ish in a week with no signing and no confirmation of anything beyond a few rumors floating around. I'll be at MGM Saturday, curious to see what they are then.

Browns went from 200/1 to 30/1 in a short period of time.

http://www.bettingtalk.com/johnny-manziel-vegas-browns-super-bowl-odds/

Books don't like to open themselves up too much on things like this. If they started seeing people hammering Cleveland, they would drop that price in a hurry.

Sportsbook isn't a particularly sharp book and they are offering 10/1 odds on Cleveland right now.

10/1 is absurd... Even if Lebron lands there, they still can't go much lower than what? 5/1?

& right now Lebron in Cleveland is still far from reality.

Whatever it takes to get equal action on both sides.

I don't think anyone in their right mind is betting Cleveland at 10/1 right now... Maybe it is me, but those odds feel awful!

Correct. The line is pretty much the equivalent of pulling it off the board until things settle out. No need to open yourself up to this if you don't have to.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I like Frye as a locker room guy and a part-time veteran 4, but he was in serious decline as the season progressed last year. It could have been heavy legs after sitting out a year, but he was pretty much a bag of suck down the stretch.

His pre/post all-star splits are staggering

An Ironman he is not.

 

[Timmay]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

 

[Eephus]

I like Frye as a locker room guy and a part-time veteran 4, but he was in serious decline as the season progressed last year. It could have been heavy legs after sitting out a year, but he was pretty much a bag of suck down the stretch.

His pre/post all-star splits are staggering

An Ironman he is not.

He played 2300 minutes last year and didn't miss a game.

 

[Slapdash]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

No way they could afford both Lance and Pau.

There have been reports that Boozer has been told he won't be with the team regardless but I'm not sure they can be 100% trusted. My preference is to just sign Mirotic and a few low salaried bench players and call it an offseason.

 

[Harris]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

Bulls have already started negotiations with Mirotic in terms of bringing him over from Europe. The problem is that the Bulls can only contribute up to $600K or so of this buyout of about $3m, so Mirotic's side will likely negotiate for a higher salary so that he can offset the $2.4M he is personally on the hook for.

Not sure how much they can afford depending on that deal. Boozer is probably gone though, either via amnesty or trade.

 

[JMon348]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I like Frye as a locker room guy and a part-time veteran 4, but he was in serious decline as the season progressed last year. It could have been heavy legs after sitting out a year, but he was pretty much a bag of suck down the stretch.

His pre/post all-star splits are staggering

An Ironman he is not.

He played 2300 minutes last year and didn't miss a game.

HEAVY LEGS

 

[boubucarow]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

No way they could afford both Lance and Pau.

There have been reports that Boozer has been told he won't be with the team regardless but I'm not sure they can be 100% trusted. My preference is to just sign Mirotic and a few low salaried bench players and call it an offseason.

Grantland has a piece on different Bulls scenarios. The main idea of it was that the best option for the Bulls is utilizing Boozer in a sign and trade instead of the amnesty. Similar to the Heat situation with the cap holds, the Bulls can currently sign players for the mid-level (for Mirotic) and bi-annual exception. If they amnesty Boozer, they lose both options and signing Mirotic eats up cap space. So it appears the Bulls are hoping they can trade Boozer but not for financial reasons.

 

[Gatorman]

So do we have all the pre packaged comments for Lebron's meeting with riles:

1) Lebron brings his talents back to miami (with bosh): Well, they are all a year older and McRoberts and Grainger aren't what they need to get over the hump next year.

2) Lebron stays, Bosh leaves, and Melo signs (I do not see this happenning): So the heat got another shooter who can't play defense. They are done.

3) Lebron Leaves to Cleveland. Miami Keeps Bosh and Wade and signs someone else: See I told you so, and Lebron (to wherever) was a better spot than Miami, but they are still not good enough to beat the west.

4) Lebron and Bosh leave, wade stays. "I hope todem doesn't kill himself"

am I missing anything?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

 

[Abraham]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

 

[Slapdash]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

Was still up this morning too! I park right across from there.

 

[Freelove]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

World Class City.

 

[pollardsvision]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

 

[Timmay]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

No way they could afford both Lance and Pau.

There have been reports that Boozer has been told he won't be with the team regardless but I'm not sure they can be 100% trusted. My preference is to just sign Mirotic and a few low salaried bench players and call it an offseason.

Grantland has a piece on different Bulls scenarios. The main idea of it was that the best option for the Bulls is utilizing Boozer in a sign and trade instead of the amnesty. Similar to the Heat situation with the cap holds, the Bulls can currently sign players for the mid-level (for Mirotic) and bi-annual exception. If they amnesty Boozer, they lose both options and signing Mirotic eats up cap space. So it appears the Bulls are hoping they can trade Boozer but not for financial reasons.

Good stuff. After reading that and all their cap restrictions, I think what I want the most if Melo doesn't sign, is for the Bulls to sign and trade boozer/1st round pick for Gasol. Bring over Mirotic and have the 2 Spaniards lead the 2nd team off the bench.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Even if the Bulls miss out on Melo. Do they still use the amnesty clause on Boozer?

What is plan B for Bulls?

I wouldnt mind seeing something like this: Sign Stephenson and Gasol to give them some offense. PJ Tucker could fit well in Thibs system. Could use at least 1 decent backup PG. Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions? Likes of Elton Brand or Jermaine O'Neal would be an upgrade to Mohammed.

No way they could afford both Lance and Pau.

There have been reports that Boozer has been told he won't be with the team regardless but I'm not sure they can be 100% trusted. My preference is to just sign Mirotic and a few low salaried bench players and call it an offseason.

Grantland has a piece on different Bulls scenarios. The main idea of it was that the best option for the Bulls is utilizing Boozer in a sign and trade instead of the amnesty. Similar to the Heat situation with the cap holds, the Bulls can currently sign players for the mid-level (for Mirotic) and bi-annual exception. If they amnesty Boozer, they lose both options and signing Mirotic eats up cap space. So it appears the Bulls are hoping they can trade Boozer but not for financial reasons.

Yes, that certainly makes sense. I guess I'm not comfortable overpaying an older, declining player (Gasol, Pierce, even Deng) or a knucklehead (Lance). I would like to see McDermott and Mirotic get regular minutes to see how good they are on the NBA level. Save that "flexibility" for another time.

 

[Gr00vus]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

 

[Abraham]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

 

[Gr00vus]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar. As of right now Young is an upgrade. And I doubt Young costs you a ton, so you'll have room to maneuver.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So it appears the Bulls are hoping they can trade Boozer but not for financial reasons.

This might be overstating it a bit. There are other reasons to do so, certainly, but I find it difficult to believe Jerry Reinsdorf ever does anything without regard for financial reasons. Some owners would look at cap relief only and not bat an eye at cutting a $15 mil check to a guy to go away. Reinsdorf is not one of those guys. It'll kill him to pay that money to somebody who is no longer doing anything for him.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar.

You don't know how much this hurts me.

 

[thecatch]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar. As of right now Young is an upgrade. And I doubt Young costs you a ton, so you'll have room to maneuver.

But then you have to watch Nick Young for a year, which really sucks if you want your team to do well.

 

[Slapdash]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.

Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

I guess the first step is getting him to want to sign and see what the Jazz do.

 

[Slapdash]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stop

They are doing everything possible

Lunch at Price's Chicken Coop will really tilt the scale.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO now

Hearing LeBron James' meeting with Heat president Pat Riley may be taking place this afternoon

Things are happening!!

 

[Abraham]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO now

Hearing LeBron James' meeting with Heat president Pat Riley may be taking place this afternoon

Things are happening!!

People are hearing things!

 

[Gr00vus]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar. As of right now Young is an upgrade. And I doubt Young costs you a ton, so you'll have room to maneuver.

But then you have to watch Nick Young for a year, which really sucks if you want your team to do well.

This is probably true. I enjoyed watching him with the Lakers last year, but as you say, it didn't really matter because the team was horrible, so I wasn't going to stress out over it either way. Seems like he could fill a permitter scoring niche for the Hornets for a couple of years without breaking the bank.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 1m

Cavs have had back and forth with LeBron's camp, more than what's been reported, I'm told. But source says he thinks LBJ leaning toward Heat

McBob!

 

[TobiasFunke]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar. As of right now Young is an upgrade. And I doubt Young costs you a ton, so you'll have room to maneuver.

But then you have to watch Nick Young for a year, which really sucks if you want your team to do well.

This is probably true. I enjoyed watching him with the Lakers last year, but as you say, it didn't really matter because the team was horrible, so I wasn't going to stress out over it either way. Seems like he could fill a permitter scoring niche for the Hornets for a couple of years without breaking the bank.

Nick Young is the Michael Jordan of "horrible teams where you're not going to stress over it either way."

 

[tommyGunZ]

Y'all stop hatin' on SWAGGY P!!!!

 

[Premier]

The Hornets should just sign Lebron instead of Hayward.

 

[Premier]

I mean it seems kind of dumb not to. Who would you rather have? Lebron at 20M or Hayward at 15? I don't understand why they didn't just do this.

 

[thecatch]

Gordon Hayward courting day two underway. Not sure what Charlotte's version of the red carpet is, but they have to be pulling out all the stops.

I'm not really sure how this works out with Hayward in a Hornets jersey. Utah will match any offer, I think, including Hayward's max.Now, if it is a max, maybe, just maybe they'd rather not do that, so they'd match and try rape CHA in a trade.

I'm fine overpaying Hayward because they can't seem to get anybody else to take their money. But giving assets for the opportunity to overpay Hayward just feels like too much.

The Hornets should sign Nick Young rather than offer Hayward a max deal.

Didn't they just have an older version of Nick Young in Ben Gordon?

Career wise, they're pretty similar. As of right now Young is an upgrade. And I doubt Young costs you a ton, so you'll have room to maneuver.

But then you have to watch Nick Young for a year, which really sucks if you want your team to do well.

This is probably true. I enjoyed watching him with the Lakers last year, but as you say, it didn't really matter because the team was horrible, so I wasn't going to stress out over it either way. Seems like he could fill a permitter scoring niche for the Hornets for a couple of years without breaking the bank.

Hey, no one enjoyed the Nick Young/Javale McGee era in DC more than I did, but I think Pollard probably wants to see the Hornets do well.