Cliff Clavin
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Almost made it through a whole quarter of the Celtics broadcast.
Great call. I definitely copped this move playing pickup with friends.I've never seen anyone do this before (first highlight):
Yea wtf? I'm happy for it though. Only bad thing is 2 or 3 more wins and we got the 8th seed.Sixers aren't the worst team in the NBA, despite their best efforts.![]()
Gasol seems to have something left in the tank. I wonder what the Lakers issue might be?Gasol with 46 and 18? Man, here I thought that he was washed up and had been holding the Lakers back for the last 5 years. Huh. Maybe there was a different problem in LA.
The irony for all the crap they got and yet the Knicks actually tried to be good. It would only be fitting for them to somehow still win the lottery but I highly doubt the Knicks lose a lottery with a chance to get one of the best big men since Ewing.Yea wtf? I'm happy for it though. Only bad thing is 2 or 3 more wins and we got the 8th seed.Sixers aren't the worst team in the NBA, despite their best efforts.![]()
I would, are you paying? Also, I would need you to pick me up and pay for parking and food/drinks once we get there.Abraham said:Would abyone in LA like to join me at the rockets/lakers game Sunday 1/25, lakers/bullets 1/26 or clippers / nuggets 1/27?
I can buy the tickets. The rest is up to you.I would, are you paying? Also, I would need you to pick me up and pay for parking and food/drinks once we get there.Abraham said:Would abyone in LA like to join me at the rockets/lakers game Sunday 1/25, lakers/bullets 1/26 or clippers / nuggets 1/27?
They're playing themselves out of Okafor territory, but it does seem like he'd be somewhat redundant with Embiid and Noel.Probably get a playoff spot next year if embiid plays.
Black looks legit thus far. His energy has been outstanding.Excellent lower body strength; offensively, can keep inside position once established. Better at setting up deep to accept a dump-off pass from a driving PG than as the screener on high pick-and-rolls. Strong enough to finish through contact.Gonna need a scouting report in Mr. Black, Ferris.
Good speed for a man of his girth, but stretch fours will beat him down the floor.
No shooting range. Lousy FT shooting form.
A bit of a foul magnet on defense. Quick feet for his size, but doesn't have great shot-blocking instincts and fouls a lot when contesting shots. Has trouble figuring out when to rotate out and close on a shooter and when to stay home and keep rebounding position; because of this, he can get caught in no-man's-land and foul when rejoining the play.
He seems to be a pretty good guy. He was an immediately-eligible grad transfer to KU and there for only one year, but his teammates were crazy about him. The bench exploded when he scored. Stood out as a vocal guy on a roster of pretty laid-back dudes for high level college basketball.
Won't ever be a starter, but could be a guy who comes off the bench to get a couple dunks and tough rebounds to get the team going.
I'm debating going up for the Bullets game...I can buy the tickets. The rest is up to you.I would, are you paying? Also, I would need you to pick me up and pay for parking and food/drinks once we get there.Would abyone in LA like to join me at the rockets/lakers game Sunday 1/25, lakers/bullets 1/26 or clippers / nuggets 1/27?
Yea. I get taking the best player if we get #1 overall but how many big many can we hoard?They're playing themselves out of Okafor territory, but it does seem like he'd be somewhat redundant with Embiid and Noel.Probably get a playoff spot next year if embiid plays.
Pretty bad when you hear it.@BlakeEllington: Reporter: "Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love they are two max players, they're here."
Blatt: "Kevin's not a max player yet."
Too bad Love hates us, because bringing him right back would be great shtick.Wiggins for Love deal is going to look historically bad if Love walks.
They gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for 44 horrible games of him.Sources say Bargnani is a candidate to be waived next month if New York can't find a deal for the former No. 1 overall pick and his $11.5 million expiring contract.
I'd say no but, then again, Turkoglu is still in the NBA.They gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for 44 horrible games of him.Sources say Bargnani is a candidate to be waived next month if New York can't find a deal for the former No. 1 overall pick and his $11.5 million expiring contract.
Does anyone take another shot at him when he gets waived?
At least Turkoglu could shoot...and smoke.I'd say no but, then again, Turkoglu is still in the NBA.They gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for 44 horrible games of him.Sources say Bargnani is a candidate to be waived next month if New York can't find a deal for the former No. 1 overall pick and his $11.5 million expiring contract.
Does anyone take another shot at him when he gets waived?
He definitely gets picked up. He's only 29, still 7 feet tall and he can hit jump shots (hes definitely struggled from three for a few years, but he's maintained his long two stroke). We've probably seen the last of him as a starter or significant contributor, but a 7 footer who can stretch the defense will always have a home somewhere.They gave up a 1st and 2 2nds for 44 horrible games of him.Sources say Bargnani is a candidate to be waived next month if New York can't find a deal for the former No. 1 overall pick and his $11.5 million expiring contract.
Does anyone take another shot at him when he gets waived?
There was one man who could stop JV tonight. Dwayne CaseyPistons come back and beat the Raptors in Toronto. I still don't even get what is happening.
the SW division is brutal this year especially.Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
As Clavin said they won't lose him, he'll be locked in for another 5 years after this one on a "designated player" contract (technically he could refuse it but nobody ever refuses it). I think they have to dump Monty Williams, who seems like a nice guy but should be doing more with Davis and has seen several formerly useful to good players regress under his leadership. Other than a solid hiring there and hopefully hitting in the mid-round pick this year, their best bet is to wait until after the 2015-16 season to make their move. Their brutal conference will look totally different at that point- the Spurs and Mavs will lose superstar players (and maybe a coach) to retirement by then and Durant will be a free agent. At that point, with lots of cap space available and a 23 year old superstar in the fold, New Orleans could look pretty attractive. Maybe they'll be a fit for Westbrook once Durant leaves for DC?SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
Evans and especially Gordon have bad contracts, but I don't think Holiday is a bad contract at all. He's not efficient scoring the ball, but otherwise, he is really good. He's one of the better defenders at the position, he distributes the ball well, and can hit jumpers, plus hes only 24 so he may have room to grow. Probably one of the top 15 PGs in the NBA, or very very close to it.Cliff Clavin said:Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
They aren't signing an elite player so you can forget about that. Outside of Davis, Anderson and Asik, their roster needs to be completely overhauled. Without Davis, they'd be about as bad as the Lakers/Jazz.
The Savior!After 4-5 years I have actually started watching the Pistons again. Only know 3-4 guys on the team. Who is this Meeks dude?
$11M for a bottom tier PG seems like a little much to me. The list of PGs that make similar money to him blow him out of the water ie.Evans and especially Gordon have bad contracts, but I don't think Holiday is a bad contract at all. He's not efficient scoring the ball, but otherwise, he is really good. He's one of the better defenders at the position, he distributes the ball well, and can hit jumpers, plus hes only 24 so he may have room to grow. Probably one of the top 15 PGs in the NBA, or very very close to it.Cliff Clavin said:Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
They aren't signing an elite player so you can forget about that. Outside of Davis, Anderson and Asik, their roster needs to be completely overhauled. Without Davis, they'd be about as bad as the Lakers/Jazz.
To be fair 3 of the first 4 guys on that should be max-level guys at this point and the 4th is a Spur. I don't think 11 million is unreasonable with the way the cap will be moving in short order. Evans and Gordon are the problems.$11M for a bottom tier PG seems like a little much to me. The list of PGs that make similar money to him blow him out of the water ie.Evans and especially Gordon have bad contracts, but I don't think Holiday is a bad contract at all. He's not efficient scoring the ball, but otherwise, he is really good. He's one of the better defenders at the position, he distributes the ball well, and can hit jumpers, plus hes only 24 so he may have room to grow. Probably one of the top 15 PGs in the NBA, or very very close to it.Cliff Clavin said:Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
They aren't signing an elite player so you can forget about that. Outside of Davis, Anderson and Asik, their roster needs to be completely overhauled. Without Davis, they'd be about as bad as the Lakers/Jazz.
Parker $14
Curry $11
Lowry $12
Rondo $11
Lawson $12
Conley $8
Dragic $8
Ellis $8
Teague $8
Thomas $7
Maybe he is worth it and all of those guys are underpaid. Either way, there is zero value in giving Holliday $11M.
Lowry was an FA this summer and didn't get a max offer from anyone. The last year of his deal *might* not look bad if the cap skyrockets but he'll still be overpaid compared to his peers.To be fair 3 of the first 4 guys on that should be max-level guys at this point and the 4th is a Spur. I don't think 11 million is unreasonable with the way the cap will be moving in short order. Evans and Gordon are the problems.$11M for a bottom tier PG seems like a little much to me. The list of PGs that make similar money to him blow him out of the water ie.Evans and especially Gordon have bad contracts, but I don't think Holiday is a bad contract at all. He's not efficient scoring the ball, but otherwise, he is really good. He's one of the better defenders at the position, he distributes the ball well, and can hit jumpers, plus hes only 24 so he may have room to grow. Probably one of the top 15 PGs in the NBA, or very very close to it.Cliff Clavin said:Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
They aren't signing an elite player so you can forget about that. Outside of Davis, Anderson and Asik, their roster needs to be completely overhauled. Without Davis, they'd be about as bad as the Lakers/Jazz.
Parker $14
Curry $11
Lowry $12
Rondo $11
Lawson $12
Conley $8
Dragic $8
Ellis $8
Teague $8
Thomas $7
Maybe he is worth it and all of those guys are underpaid. Either way, there is zero value in giving Holliday $11M.
Curry, Lowry and Lawson are all better players, Teague has certainly played much better this year than Holiday as well. Ellis hasn't played a minute of PG this season (according to Basketball Reference) and I think we would all agree that his play with the Mavs is much better than what we would expect if he went elsewhere. Dragic is about to get a fat pay raise and other than last year hasn't proven to be significantly better. Parker has fallen off a cliff. Conley and Rondo are two of the more similar players to Holiday in the league, Conley is probably the best of the three, but I would definitely take Holiday over Rondo. Thomas is a 6th man who can't defend the position, and was paid as such.$11M for a bottom tier PG seems like a little much to me. The list of PGs that make similar money to him blow him out of the water ie.Evans and especially Gordon have bad contracts, but I don't think Holiday is a bad contract at all. He's not efficient scoring the ball, but otherwise, he is really good. He's one of the better defenders at the position, he distributes the ball well, and can hit jumpers, plus hes only 24 so he may have room to grow. Probably one of the top 15 PGs in the NBA, or very very close to it.Cliff Clavin said:Davis is almost certainly there for 5 more season after this one. They play in a horrendously tough division. They need to add some depth pretty much everywhere and get rid of their craptastic guard rotation but unfortunately, they're stuck with it for the next 2 years. The contracts for Holliday, Evans and Gordon are terrible. Until they are gone, their isn't much of a chance at competing.SaintsInDome2006 said:Thoughts on the Pelicans this year? Probably asking a lot for a response, but I'm probably ready to start going to games again now that football is pretty much over and I would like to get back into it.
Main thing is something that a lot of teams go through: they have a star, Anthony Davis, who may be even bigger or better than Chris Paul in terms of being able to possible lay claim to being a top 5 player one day, if he isn't already. How do NBA teams make this transition, ie how do they build a team around a major star without losing him after his contract is up?
I just don't see how NO can get the proper supporting cast to make the playoffs this year or regularly. Have any teams found the solution short of signing the huge stars to go with the elite player?
They aren't signing an elite player so you can forget about that. Outside of Davis, Anderson and Asik, their roster needs to be completely overhauled. Without Davis, they'd be about as bad as the Lakers/Jazz.
Parker $14
Curry $11
Lowry $12
Rondo $11
Lawson $12
Conley $8
Dragic $8
Ellis $8
Teague $8
Thomas $7
Maybe he is worth it and all of those guys are underpaid. Either way, there is zero value in giving Holliday $11M.
Strengths: Shooting. Weaknesses: Everything else.After 4-5 years I have actually started watching the Pistons again. Only know 3-4 guys on the team. Who is this Meeks dude?
Brandon Jennings is really the guy driving this turnaround, which is kind of a scary thing because I'm still not a huge fan of him.Pistons come back and beat the Raptors in Toronto. I still don't even get what is happening.
Yes Lakers are still immensely more popular than the Clippers. And now people that could;t afford to go see the Lakers for a number of years because of the high prices are buy ticket to go see them (and Kobe).I am somewhat surprised to find that Clippers tickets in the middle of the week can be had for 1/3 the price of Lakers tickets on StubHub. Does anyone know if prices go down (or up) as we get closer to the day of the game?