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Ndamukong Suh faces NFL discipline (1 Viewer)

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9653422/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-faces-discipline-nfl-low-block-john-sullivan-minnesota-vikings

Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is facing discipline from the NFL for diving at the knees of an opposing player during Sunday's game against the Minnesota Vikings, a league official told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The controversial play occurred during an interception return by Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy, who scored an apparent touchdown to give Detroit the lead. But the play was nullified because Suh was whistled for an illegal low block against Vikings center John Sullivan well behind the play.

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Ndamukong Suh has been flagged for controversial personal-foul penalties on multiple occasions over the past three seasons. Suh's block drew a 15-yard penalty and the attention of the league office. The two-time Pro Bowler said, however, that he was not attempting to injure Sullivan.

"I wasn't by any means going for his knees," Suh said after Detroit's 34-24 victory. "He knows that. We had a great conversation running out at halftime, and he understood. My aim was his waist to cut him off."

Sullivan said he was surprised that he didn't suffer a serious injury on the play and added he did not see Suh coming at him. "That was bad," he said.

"I missed the shot of it, but the guys were telling me about it," Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said. "Nobody thought that was a good play, and the fact they got a penalty because of it tells you it wasn't a good play. You hate to see guys go low on players. You've seen the results of it, so it's not a good thing when it happens."

Vikings defensive end Jared Allen also disapproved of Suh's low block.

"[suh] is a good dude, but that's uncalled for," Allen said. "This is a fraternity. In the NFL, you try to take care of guys. Things happen, and guys are going to make hits. But you can't take a dude's legs out from behind on an interception return down the field.

"He plays hard. I like his style of play. But if you end a guy's career like that, it's just uncalled for."

The low block was not the first time that the 26-year-old Suh has been questioned for a controversial penalty. He was suspended two games in 2011 for stomping on the arm of Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith during a Thanksgiving Day game.

 
Should receive not just a healthy fine, but a couple games off. It's a pattern, and Suh appears to be a very bad dude. My impression is that of a street punk who just doesn't care about anything but himself.

 
The hit made by Looney on Kevin Williams in pre-season was just as bad or worse IMO. Looney did not receive a penalty or a fine.

To make matters worse It wouldn't surprise me if the NFL decides to suspends Suh against an NFC north opponent. The infraction may have occured against Minnesota but ultimately the Bears or Pack will reap the advantage.

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
But only the best human beings play in the NFL?!?!, where should I start the list.... COME ON MAN! Maybe they should just play flag football, no one gets hurt and they'll hand out multiple Vince Lombardi trophies to every single player at the end of the year... LOL!!! :lmao:

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
But only the best human beings play in the NFL?!?!, where should I start the list.... COME ON MAN! Maybe they should just play flag football, no one gets hurt and they'll hand out multiple Vince Lombardi trophies to every single player at the end of the year... LOL!!! :lmao:
I'm not saying everyone has to be Tebow out there.

But having respect for other people would be nice. Not trying to injure people who are far away from the play just because you're a #### and you want to hurt people would be good. It's called sportsmanship. He doesn't have it.

Suh's gotten to the point where he deserves to have bad things happen to him. If some drunk driver rammed into his car one day and Suh lost a leg, I'd call it karmic retribution.

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
forgot Donte Stallworth.

peace

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
forgot Donte Stallworth.

peace
Plax much?

peace

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
forgot Donte Stallworth.

peace
Plax much?

peace
Why are you two ending your posts with 'Peace'? DId that become punctuation at some point when I was watching the MNF game?

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
forgot Donte Stallworth.

peace
Plax much?

peace
Why are you two ending your posts with 'Peace'? DId that become punctuation at some point when I was watching the MNF game?
Who else is??

Peace

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
But only the best human beings play in the NFL?!?!, where should I start the list.... COME ON MAN! Maybe they should just play flag football, no one gets hurt and they'll hand out multiple Vince Lombardi trophies to every single player at the end of the year... LOL!!! :lmao:
I'm not saying everyone has to be Tebow out there.

But having respect for other people would be nice. Not trying to injure people who are far away from the play just because you're a #### and you want to hurt people would be good. It's called sportsmanship. He doesn't have it.

Suh's gotten to the point where he deserves to have bad things happen to him. If some drunk driver rammed into his car one day and Suh lost a leg, I'd call it karmic retribution.
The guy was three yards behind the play, and Suh was clearly aiming for his thigh. Probably a correct call based on the new rule this year, but anyone else but Suh and this is no story whatsoever.

 
If suh played in the 80's he'd be everyones favorite player on d. I agree that was a bad play on his part. But jeez anything he does n hes the worst guy ever. Ditka made em look likr mary poppins. Nfl is gettin softer n softer.

 
All I ask is that the league treat all players the same. If something is worthy of being a rule or a law it should be a rule/law consistently in all instances of it's enforcement.

 
mbuehner said:
Its a matter of time before Suh ends somebodys career.
Exactly.

Suh's the type of dip#### who would purposely and permanently injure a great player, to the point of ending his career, his livelihood, risking his financial future, the lives of him, his wife, his kids, just to prevent him from gaining 8 yards against the Detroit Lions in a meaningless game.

Anyone who supports or celebrates that kind of attitude deserves to be treated exactly the same. If some jerkwad teenager set fire to your house with your kids inside just for fun to post the video on youtube, tough ####. You get what's coming to you.

 
mbuehner said:
Its a matter of time before Suh ends somebodys career.
Exactly.

Suh's the type of dip#### who would purposely and permanently injure a great player, to the point of ending his career, his livelihood, risking his financial future, the lives of him, his wife, his kids, just to prevent him from gaining 8 yards against the Detroit Lions in a meaningless game.

Anyone who supports or celebrates that kind of attitude deserves to be treated exactly the same. If some jerkwad teenager set fire to your house with your kids inside just for fun to post the video on youtube, tough ####. You get what's coming to you.
I didn't realize we could share posts on facebook / Twitter. :thumbup:

 
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Jay Glazer is reporting no suspension for Suh but he wil be fined.

The play was a legal textbook block forever until this season and players have been coached forever to block this way...players need to be retrained.

 
mbuehner said:
Its a matter of time before Suh ends somebodys career.
Exactly.

Suh's the type of dip#### who would purposely and permanently injure a great player, to the point of ending his career, his livelihood, risking his financial future, the lives of him, his wife, his kids, just to prevent him from gaining 8 yards against the Detroit Lions in a meaningless game.

Anyone who supports or celebrates that kind of attitude deserves to be treated exactly the same. If some jerkwad teenager set fire to your house with your kids inside just for fun to post the video on youtube, tough ####. You get what's coming to you.
:lmao:

Somehow a low block in an NFL game is equal to setting someones house on fire.

 
If suh played in the 80's he'd be everyones favorite player on d. I agree that was a bad play on his part. But jeez anything he does n hes the worst guy ever. Ditka made em look likr mary poppins. Nfl is gettin softer n softer.
Hopefully the life expectancy of players will get longer and longer in the process. I think 55 is far too low.

 
Suh is just an easy target now.

Where is the outrage over Deangelo Halls cheap shot on D-Jax? Horsecollered him 5 yards OB. Clay Matthews? It is a violent game played at a fast pace. For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career. Warren Sapp injured many a player and he just got elected into the HOF...now Sapp would not make it through a full season without being suspended.

The play was a 15 yard penalty that cost the Lions 7 points...really it was a 14 point swing because the Vikings went down and scored. That should have been the end of the story. If Ziggy Ansah did it it probably would not even have been called.

 
Da Guru said:
Suh is just an easy target now.

Where is the outrage over Deangelo Halls cheap shot on D-Jax? Horsecollered him 5 yards OB. Clay Matthews? It is a violent game played at a fast pace. For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career. Warren Sapp injured many a player and he just got elected into the HOF...now Sapp would not make it through a full season without being suspended.

The play was a 15 yard penalty that cost the Lions 7 points...really it was a 14 point swing because the Vikings went down and scored. That should have been the end of the story. If Ziggy Ansah did it it probably would not even have been called.
There was plenty of outrage during the play last night by Hall...same for Matthews (you had people calling for his ejection and suspension during that game)

 
Da Guru said:
For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career.
I think people are fast to pile on Suh. But come on. You're talking about the same guy who just last December gave Winston Justice a concussion and then who was accused of laughing and dancing over Justice as he laid there injured.

 
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Da Guru said:
For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career.
I think people are fast to pile on Suh. But come on. You're talking about the same guy who just last December gave Winston Justice a concussion and then who was accused of laughing and dancing over Justice as he laid there injured.
I saw the play you are talking about..it was a very clean block. No penalty was called and it happened right in front of the ref. Players as we now know get concussed almost every game. That is what happens when 2 300lb men collide at full speed. As far as the laughing former Lion DE Cliff Avril said it never happened..they were jumping up and down at the turnover..not because a player was hurt.

 
If suh played in the 80's he'd be everyones favorite player on d. I agree that was a bad play on his part. But jeez anything he does n hes the worst guy ever. Ditka made em look likr mary poppins. Nfl is gettin softer n softer.
Times have changed man, players are faster and stronger than ever and there's more money involved for everyone....do you really think it's only the NFL that wants these changes and are happy people are saying it might as well be flag football for trying to protect players?

Players are calling out other players every week for cheap shots like this because lots of them realize their next game could very well be their last game.

The NFL just settled a lawsuit for almost a billion freekin' dollars with former players....and the former players were seeking 3 billion!

NFL owners are paying 10s of millions of dollars to individual players every season to keep them happy and sell tickets/merchandise...do you think they want to see their investments taken out by something like this?

We as fans love the big hits, but it's not much fun to have your best players go do with an injury. Would you be singing the same tune if you forked over 5 or 6 figures for season tickets and your squad's starting QB or $20m WR is taken out with a cheap shot?

I love the big hit as much as the next guy, but I'd much rather have them go a little too far overboard than continue allowing disrespectful jackasses like Suh to keep doing cheap crap like this that might ruin the season for a player, a teams chances to make the playoffs, millions of fantasy players, millions of fans of that team, or the NFL in general.

It's an inherently dangerous enough game as it is, you don't need the cheap shots or have to knock players out to make this game great.
 
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Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
It seems that my opinion is in line with the league after that $100k fine.

BTW: There was a 0% chance that "block" was going to have any impact on the play.

 
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Da Guru said:
For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career.
I think people are fast to pile on Suh. But come on. You're talking about the same guy who just last December gave Winston Justice a concussion and then who was accused of laughing and dancing over Justice as he laid there injured.
I saw the play you are talking about..it was a very clean block. No penalty was called and it happened right in front of the ref. Players as we now know get concussed almost every game. That is what happens when 2 300lb men collide at full speed. As far as the laughing former Lion DE Cliff Avril said it never happened..they were jumping up and down at the turnover..not because a player was hurt.
Let's not let facts get in the way here, someone has to think of the children.

 
Was the attempted cut block by David DE Castro that took out Maurkice Pouncey legal? I think it was, but perhaps cheap shot in nature despite general acknowledgement that the Steelers really couldn't practice that blocking technique in practice.

I ask since reputation is earned know the NFL. Suh with his repeated transgressions is being dealt his punishment as a repeat offender. Did DeCastro & the Steelers tarnish theiron reputation similarly? In some regards perhaps they learned a costly lesson that dirty play comes at a price.

 
Suh shouldn't be in the NFL any more. He's a terrible human being. A truly bad person who deserves only the worst.

That he's cheered and paid millions of dollars for being an ####### is an affront to society.
That's rude.
Sometimes the truth hurts.

There are times to sugar coat, and times to be blunt.

This is a time to be blunt.
Ray Lewis anyone?

Come on man, I may be a homer, but he was throwing a block.

Watch some blocks on punts anywhere in the NFL.

If you want em to wear skirts go watch soccer

peace
It seems that my opinion is in line with the league after that $100k fine.

BTW: There was a 0% chance that "block" was going to have any impact on the play.
This I agree with. It was a bone head play, I just cant stand the crocodile tears about it.

Sorta like listening to Ray Lewis talk about Hernandez.....for rizzles?

Peace

 
Was the attempted cut block by David DE Castro that took out Maurkice Pouncey legal? I think it was, but perhaps cheap shot in nature despite general acknowledgement that the Steelers really couldn't practice that blocking technique in practice.

I ask since reputation is earned know the NFL. Suh with his repeated transgressions is being dealt his punishment as a repeat offender. Did DeCastro & the Steelers tarnish theiron reputation similarly? In some regards perhaps they learned a costly lesson that dirty play comes at a price.
Cut blocking an adjacent OL, even if he's engaged, is not only legal but a staple of zone blocking schemes.

It's dangerous and, IMO, very cheap but, sadly it is currently legal.

 
He's been suspended in the past and now he's $100k lighter in the wallet, will this be his wake up call? If he was suspended for say 2 games he would have had a lesser fine, let's see if this big fine finally gets through to the guy.

 
Was the attempted cut block by David DE Castro that took out Maurkice Pouncey legal? I think it was, but perhaps cheap shot in nature despite general acknowledgement that the Steelers really couldn't practice that blocking technique in practice.

I ask since reputation is earned know the NFL. Suh with his repeated transgressions is being dealt his punishment as a repeat offender. Did DeCastro & the Steelers tarnish theiron reputation similarly? In some regards perhaps they learned a costly lesson that dirty play comes at a price.
Cut blocking an adjacent OL, even if he's engaged, is not only legal but a staple of zone blocking schemes.It's dangerous and, IMO, very cheap but, sadly it is currently legal.
Going low on a defensive player while he is engaged with another offensive lineman is a chop block and is illegal. 15 yard personal foul.

 
Was the attempted cut block by David DE Castro that took out Maurkice Pouncey legal? I think it was, but perhaps cheap shot in nature despite general acknowledgement that the Steelers really couldn't practice that blocking technique in practice.

I ask since reputation is earned know the NFL. Suh with his repeated transgressions is being dealt his punishment as a repeat offender. Did DeCastro & the Steelers tarnish theiron reputation similarly? In some regards perhaps they learned a costly lesson that dirty play comes at a price.
Cut blocking an adjacent OL, even if he's engaged, is not only legal but a staple of zone blocking schemes.It's dangerous and, IMO, very cheap but, sadly it is currently legal.
Going low on a defensive player while he is engaged with another offensive lineman is a chop block and is illegal. 15 yard personal foul.
Yep. I thought everyone knew that.

war

 
Da Guru said:
Suh is just an easy target now.

Where is the outrage over Deangelo Halls cheap shot on D-Jax? Horsecollered him 5 yards OB. Clay Matthews? It is a violent game played at a fast pace. For all of the faux outrage about Suh he has never injured another player in his NFL career. Warren Sapp injured many a player and he just got elected into the HOF...now Sapp would not make it through a full season without being suspended.

The play was a 15 yard penalty that cost the Lions 7 points...really it was a 14 point swing because the Vikings went down and scored. That should have been the end of the story. If Ziggy Ansah did it it probably would not even have been called.
Hall deserves a substantial fine. Mathews was reckless, and very dramatic, but not half as dirty or dangerous. A small fine maybe. The real shame was the refs calling off-setting penalties on that play.

Suh is the topic of and target of this thread because he has a history of these tactics, and because the general impression given is that he LIKES hurting people. Right or wrong, many believe that if not for the NFL Suh would almost certainly be a gangster rotting in jail.

 
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wow....what would this forum do if he hit a QB out of bounds and then got into a slap fight with his offensive lineman.....

and then his coach said

"Clay Matthews Suh is not a dirty player, by no means," he said. "I addressed Harbaugh's "any coachs name" comments in the team meeting and as always we'll stay above it."

what he did not say is...

we loved the hit out of bounds and since Herr Goddell is watching Suh, we will love his dirty play.

peace

 

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