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Neil deGrasse Tyson bringing back Sagan's Cosmos next year (1 Viewer)
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Steve Tasker
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I really enjoyed this. Glad I watched.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Apes with Guns
Footballguy
i found this out because today i clicked on a link on facebook and this randomly popped up. boy facebook is smart!
They had to cover a lot of ground to level set viewers on what we know today about the universe so some of the areas they covered faster than they maybe should have. Cartoon was fine, not any different than a re-enactment. It was good and I expect future shows to be better.
I do keep wanting tyson to do the carelton banks dance though.
I do keep wanting tyson to do the carelton banks dance though.
shadyridr
Footballguy
was an insult really necessary?
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
I don't know if it is geared for kids, but here is a preview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0S1Pv0eOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0S1Pv0eOE
Bobcat10
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strykerpks
Footballguy
I wouldn't say it's geared for kids but it is pretty remedial, at least so far. The CGI was pretty nice and Tyson was good as the narrator. I'll keep watching because I love this kind of stuff.
Good first episode, but they dwelled far too long on the Giordano Bruno stuff.
Schlzm
Footballguy
I did not get that either. Too long. A lot of the rest of the episode mirrored the original with the use of the cosmic calendar. Overall it was good, but Sagan was better than Tyson. I will give a few more episodes a shot.
I am hoping future episodes will be better.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Agreed. I liked the segment on Sagan and his meeting with Tyson, it really connects the two series. Tyson used "star stuff", I liked that and I was really happy to see them use the Cosmic Calendar. To me that is a great way to bring people up to speed on the vastness of time being talked about.
It did not like the animation as opposed to actors in the original. The Bruno segment was way too long and had more of an anti established religion feel to is rather than scientific discovery. Of course it wasn't scientific discovery.
Having recorded the original series this weekend I watched the first episode of that. I don't know if this series will take the same outline of episodes, but Sagan's first episode's longest segment was talking about the Library of Alexandria and the information lost and the time needed to get back up to speed.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
I enjoyed it.
The first episode obviously an homage, we'll see if they diversify in the following dozen episodes.
The original was a visionary and unparalleled work of genius that probably set an insurmountably high bar.
But for a sequel, it was better than Porky's II.
If nothing else, there must be much new information in the fields of astronomy, physics, evolution, ecology, global warming, etc. in the intervening years that the new series can extend the original series into the contemporary scientific domain through, and bring it to a far broader spectrum audience than it could as an unrelated standalone, with the framework, cache and imprimatur of its classic, pioneering predecessor.
As to the host, I like David Gilmour better than Joe Walsh, but I like them both. It sounds like he was a protege, so it does have that explicit continuity and lineage. Also through Sagan's widow being directly involved as a producer and writer.
* I didn't mind the Bruno interlude, either.
The first episode obviously an homage, we'll see if they diversify in the following dozen episodes.
The original was a visionary and unparalleled work of genius that probably set an insurmountably high bar.
But for a sequel, it was better than Porky's II.
If nothing else, there must be much new information in the fields of astronomy, physics, evolution, ecology, global warming, etc. in the intervening years that the new series can extend the original series into the contemporary scientific domain through, and bring it to a far broader spectrum audience than it could as an unrelated standalone, with the framework, cache and imprimatur of its classic, pioneering predecessor.
As to the host, I like David Gilmour better than Joe Walsh, but I like them both. It sounds like he was a protege, so it does have that explicit continuity and lineage. Also through Sagan's widow being directly involved as a producer and writer.
* I didn't mind the Bruno interlude, either.
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pantagrapher
Footballguy
I liked it. And I thought the animation was surprisingly good. I can see where some would say the Bruno story took up too much of the episode, but I can also appreciate how the story drove home the opening message about the process of science (and underscored one of NDT's favorite sayings: "Science exists whether you believe in it or not").
The story of them meeting, even though I'd heard it before, brought tears to my eyes. And I was happy that the overall tone was consistent with the original series, which was unabashedly liberal. Great start. And I'm glad to see a show like this on TV.
The story of them meeting, even though I'd heard it before, brought tears to my eyes. And I was happy that the overall tone was consistent with the original series, which was unabashedly liberal. Great start. And I'm glad to see a show like this on TV.
NCCommish
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Bruno was the very first person we know of that postulated that the Sun was just another star and that there were likely millions of planets with intelligent beings on them. He burned for it. He was pretty important.And you know what if that came off a little anti-religion then so be it. Religion is not a friend to science. Especially not as practiced in this country in many churches.
Lutherman2112
Footballguy
For those of you that found the Bruno segment long, compare last nights episode to the third episode of the original series, The Harmony Of The Worlds. The narrative/re-enactment of Keppler's life is striking similar to the Bruno segment, in that both men were searching for spiritual narrative of God and that is what drove both men in their explorations.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Dont assume you know how smart people are in real life just by their posting styles online. This board is meant as an escape for some (ie me) and I dont take it as seriously as I guess you do.
The goal of the show is to bring science to more people. Alienating people is not the best method for that.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Yes, because that is what most religious people think. Maybe one day you will stop being a buffoon.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
I don't think there was enough to alienate anyone with an interest in science. We all know that The Church was a huge obstacle to scientific advancement. Bruno's story may not be as widely known, but anyone with an interest in this branch of science is aware of Galileo's struggles with The Church.
Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed it and eagerly look forward to each episode.
matuski
Footballguy
I know where you are on these topics well enough from your posts here.
Having said that, there isn't a person here that I wouldn't have a beer with.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Can we leave the political #### out of a thread just once? Come on.
shadyridr
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
You just watched a show documenting the church burning a man for saying the the universe was bigger than the church believed. Buffoon indeed.
Anyone alienated by this show has problems this show could never address.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
What in the world are you talking about? The type of post that leads one to reiterate:
Point blank.. you have demonstrated a below average understanding of these topics here for some time now.
I don't know what that has to do with what you do or whether I'd have a beer with you.
shadyridr
Footballguy
WTF do I ever post in science threads? NCC do you ever see me in science threads? Youre just being a ####in jackass now. All I know is I recorded this series because it interested me a great deal. Someone said it was geared towards kids. I have the first episode saved on my DVR and I expressed disappointment that it was geared towards kids and might not watch it. I dont feel like spending an hour watching PBS for kids or Sprout. I spend enough of my time watching kids shows with my son. As others said, it wasnt geared toward kids and so Ill probably watch it afterall. Then I get insulted from two different people basically calling me a moron just because they follow my posts on this site, as if my posting style on these boards has anything to do with the way I am in real life. I guarantee you the occupation I have an idiot cannot do.What in the world are you talking about? The type of post that leads one to reiterate:
Point blank.. you have demonstrated a below average understanding of these topics here for some time now.
I don't know what that has to do with what you do or whether I'd have a beer with you.
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Yankee23Fan
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I enjoyed it. I think the difference between the awe and wonderment of the first one and perhaps not so much on this one is the fact that we have science channels now. The graphic journey through the planets I've seen already is different ways from The Universe to the other science shows my kid watches. But this show isn't supposed to be geared towards people that watch all that other stuff. It is was it would be a science channel show. It's on a network because it's geared towards people who haven't seen this stuff before. At least, IMO.
I thought it was all well done. The animation part I thought was exceptional and not anti religious at all. IT was anti Catholic, but that isn't the same thing. To me.
I look forward to the next one.
I thought it was all well done. The animation part I thought was exceptional and not anti religious at all. IT was anti Catholic, but that isn't the same thing. To me.
I look forward to the next one.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
To be fair, every thread about any television show eventually turns into a slap-fight. This thread just hit the nitrous and got there faster than most.
Hastur
Footballguy
I think the intent was anti-closed mindedness or more towards the idea of allowing people to express ideas that are not commonly held. The Catholic church just happened to be the focal point due to the nature of the subject.
matuski
Footballguy
1. I have nothing positive to say about the legalism the Catholic Church. Whether the show went too far about making an anti-Catholic statement, I take no position on. I missed the first 10 minutes and only caught the tail end. My only point was if they did harp on it too much, it is counter-productive to their stated goals.
2. NCC's statement about Jesus riding dinosaurs was idiotic.
3. My calling him a buffoon for saying it was not productive.
4. Matuski insulting Shadyridr was uncalled for. I think Shady just got the impression from the animations that it was geared towards kids.
Let's talk about the series
2. NCC's statement about Jesus riding dinosaurs was idiotic.
3. My calling him a buffoon for saying it was not productive.
4. Matuski insulting Shadyridr was uncalled for. I think Shady just got the impression from the animations that it was geared towards kids.
Let's talk about the series
matuski
Footballguy
WTF do I ever post in science threads? NCC do you ever see me in science threads? Youre just being a ####in jackass now. All I know is I recorded this series because it interested me a great deal. Someone said it was geared towards kids. I have the first episode saved on my DVR and I expressed disappointment that it was geared towards kids and might not watch it. I dont feel like spending an hour watching PBS for kids or Sprout. I spend enough of my time watching kids shows with my son. As others said, it wasnt geared toward kids and so Ill probably watch it afterall. Then I get insulted from two different people basically calling me a moron just because they follow my posts on this site, as if my posting style on these boards has anything to do with the way I am in real life. I guarantee you the occupation I have an idiot cannot do.What in the world are you talking about? The type of post that leads one to reiterate:
Point blank.. you have demonstrated a below average understanding of these topics here for some time now.
I don't know what that has to do with what you do or whether I'd have a beer with you.
Well this was an unintended, but welcome result of a seemingly innocent post.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
My apologies for making the initial comment:
I forgot where I was posting and that:
I was not attempting to start a political or religious debate. My bad.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I have to be honest, the part that I thought was the coolest at the moment was when his ship reached Voyager. If you sit back and think about that for a second it is really remarkable. And led me to think about all the probes we have lauchned or are planning to launch to Titan, Saturn, Pluto and the rest of them. It's just an amazing area of work. I'm guessing most scientists that work on that stuff feel like little kids sometimes when they sit back and think about what they are doing.
joffer
Footballguy
I was hoping they'd mention the different probes as they worked their way out of the solar system. For example, we have a probe on it's way to Vesta and Ceres in the asteroid belt. I would guess a lot of people watching don't know that. And thinking about Voyager is always awe inspiring.
shader
Footballguy
I don't know how anyone could feel alienated by that show. If anything, it showed how ridiculous the Church was at that time. Considering this is the same church that burned people for owning bibles, I don't think this proves anything, aside from the fact that the Catholic Church was a horrible organization at that time.
From a scientific aspect, I suppose it was cool to see. But it did feel like 3rd grade stuff. Which is fine for many, I just felt a bit let down.
From a scientific aspect, I suppose it was cool to see. But it did feel like 3rd grade stuff. Which is fine for many, I just felt a bit let down.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
What I found really awe inspiring about that part was that in the original series, Carl Sagan held in his hands that golden record that went off with Voyager.
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