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*** New England Patriot Offseason (2007) *** (1 Viewer)

now why couldn't the Pats hire him to do this same job?

DETROIT LIONS-Named Sam Gash assistant special teams coach

 
sniff, see ya thanks for the memories.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-j...p&type=lgns

Hopefully he'll have an official shmoozefest ceremonial announcement and not "just walk away" so others can heap the praise on.
A guy I always loved to watch. This was a foregone conclusion for me. Great player, great career, should get to the hall. Imagine what could have been for the Pats if he had stayed, and we didn't spend the #1 on Edwards, and the bad luck there, and the search for a RB that ensued.
 
Doesn't sound like LB Lance Briggs is very interested in the Patriots.

Briggs talk

Snipits:

Asked by a New England reporter if he could envision himself in a 3-4 defense -- which is what the Patriots play -- Briggs didn't sound enthused. "The 3-4 is a whole different scheme," he said, noting that he played in the middle of a 3-4 at the University of Arizona. Asked if he liked playing in that scheme, he said: "Not really." Asked how that would transfer to a 3-4, playing inside linebacker, he said: "Not real well."

Also some Kraft Comments from the SB:

Will you look at the franchise numbers for Asante Samuel ($7.79 million) and Daniel Graham ($4.3 million) and whether they’re doable?“We’re going to look at every number. We’re always going to spend to the cap every year. I think that Scott and Bill have done a good job managing in that area and I want to hold them accountable and to do that I’ve got to let them make the decisions and I think they’ve done a pretty good job doing it.”

Would you like those players to return if the numbers are right?“Oh, absolutely, how could you not want them? But our fans have to realize that we’re living with a budget and every decision that’s being made is to try to put us in the best position to win football games. We’re going to spend the money. Some people have this impression that we’re just not spending up to the cap. That just isn’t so. I can assure you we are.”

 
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Doesn't sound like LB Lance Briggs is very interested in the Patriots.

Briggs talk

Snipits:

Asked by a New England reporter if he could envision himself in a 3-4 defense -- which is what the Patriots play -- Briggs didn't sound enthused. "The 3-4 is a whole different scheme," he said, noting that he played in the middle of a 3-4 at the University of Arizona. Asked if he liked playing in that scheme, he said: "Not really." Asked how that would transfer to a 3-4, playing inside linebacker, he said: "Not real well."

Also some Kraft Comments from the SB:

Will you look at the franchise numbers for Asante Samuel ($7.79 million) and Daniel Graham ($4.3 million) and whether they’re doable?“We’re going to look at every number. We’re always going to spend to the cap every year. I think that Scott and Bill have done a good job managing in that area and I want to hold them accountable and to do that I’ve got to let them make the decisions and I think they’ve done a pretty good job doing it.”

Would you like those players to return if the numbers are right?“Oh, absolutely, how could you not want them? But our fans have to realize that we’re living with a budget and every decision that’s being made is to try to put us in the best position to win football games. We’re going to spend the money. Some people have this impression that we’re just not spending up to the cap. That just isn’t so. I can assure you we are.”
If not a Bear he's probably a Giant. There's a few interviews with him and he and Pierce are "tight". He'd love to play with him again. Moreso than a casual mention, those two are close
 
Starting to gear up for the draft. Actually thinking of going this year with a few friends. Should be good with the Pats having two first round picks.

patriots.com had a review on how the pats have done in the recent drafts.

Looking back at the Patriots drafts

The Patriots have been one of the NFL’s best drafting teams over the past five years. The 2002 draft produced three starters in Daniel Graham, Deion Branch and David Givens, as well key reserve Jarvis Green. The Patriots 2003 draft may go down as one of the best in team history. Ty Warren and Eugene Wilson were New England’s first two picks that year but New England found gems Asante Samuel (4th round), Dan Koppen (5th round) and Tully Banta-Cain (7th round) later on.

Second-round selection Bethel Johnson never lived up to expectations and was released before the start of the 2006 season. The 2004 draft wasn’t great by Patriots standards. It landed starters Vince Wilfork and Benjamin Watson early, but the rest of the draft was filled with busts like Marquise Hill and Guss Scott. Four starters - Logan Mankins, Ellis Hobbs, Nick Kaczur and James Sanders – came out of the 2005 draft, along with backup quarterback Matt Cassel. Mankins is on his way to becoming a Pro Bowl guard, while Hobbs and Sanders have shown signs of becoming future leaders in the Patriots secondary. The latest draft is still up in the air. Other than Laurence Maroney and Stephen Gostkowski, no one really made a big splash in their first season with the team, although tight end David Thomas looks like he’s a keeper.
 
Radio by me(tiny vermont station) the guys were jabberring and he said Jets have already been chatting with Graham's agent. Also said that in a recent Pioli interview, Pioli said how he tries to get a sense of "the market" from agents and Gaffney and Caldwell have made the Pats a destination of choice for FA WRs. Previously NE was a place FA WR did not want to go.

It was very chatty very matter of fact, I'm not sure I'd put much stock into what they said but I did find it interesting so I figured I'd share it here.

They really haven't had any luck with FA WRs previously. It made some sense that peers would notice those two also. Re-Graham, I imagine 31 other teams contacting his agent so...

They've got to spend some $ on that position. Even if their theory is to not spend a ton, the amount they plan still needs to increase.

 
Bare minimum-I would simply like to get Givens back. The titans have hardly received their "money's worth" from him. Givens is recoverring from a serious injury. I just don't see it costing the Pats much at all to get him. One sure handed vet that gets it done would satisfy me. Yeah I want 3 pro bowl WRs but realistically a sure handed vet would do it. I'd be OK with Jackson as there's no pressing need for him to play. The drops that frustrate me would go away. One sure handed WR is definitely on my "Xmas" list.

 
I liked the Hayes signing. Didn't pan out, at all. A big guy that could fight for the ball. I loved the way Gabriel looked early, good routes, fighting back for the ball, but his heart went away quick. Jackson, I just don't know. CJ, BJ, as in Bethel Johnson. I'll give the kid the benefit, but he's got to show some more heart than I saw.

II guess we just sit back and wait for something to pop. I think Graham is all but gone. The only alternative I can see is if they trade Watson. And, I give that a very low chance.

 
One sure handed vet that gets it done would satisfy me. One sure handed WR is definitely on my "Xmas" list.
Bri, I think most of us in NE are hoping for the same at WR... a sure-handed, gritty veteran who isn't demanding an outrageous salary.It is the LB position that we'd like to see a big, high-profile signing made.NE is in a good position to make lots of noise in both the FA market and on draft day. Considering how close they came in '06, which was supposed to be a "down" year, there's lots to be positive about.In Belichick We Trust.
 
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Bare minimum-I would simply like to get Givens back. The titans have hardly received their "money's worth" from him. Givens is recoverring from a serious injury. I just don't see it costing the Pats much at all to get him. One sure handed vet that gets it done would satisfy me. Yeah I want 3 pro bowl WRs but realistically a sure handed vet would do it. I'd be OK with Jackson as there's no pressing need for him to play. The drops that frustrate me would go away. One sure handed WR is definitely on my "Xmas" list.
The problem with Givens wasn't that the Patriots didn't love him. He just wanted #1 WR money, which he isn't.
 
One guy I wouldn't mind seeing come back is David Patten. He has literally fallen to 4th or 5th on the WAS depth chart, and after an injury plagued 2006 season, he's probably in danger of getting cut. He will not be able to produce to the level he did before, but he's a veteran WR who knows the system well. You could do a lot worse than signing him out of FA should he be released.

 
JetsWillWin said:
One guy I wouldn't mind seeing come back is David Patten. He has literally fallen to 4th or 5th on the WAS depth chart, and after an injury plagued 2006 season, he's probably in danger of getting cut. He will not be able to produce to the level he did before, but he's a veteran WR who knows the system well. You could do a lot worse than signing him out of FA should he be released.
Many thought Patten would be cut this past year and resign with the Pats but Washington held onto him. With another year of wear and tear on his body, I'm not sure he is the player we remember. Worth a look if he comes available though.Why would someone think that the Titans had "gotten their moneys worth" out of Givens? They gave him a significant signing bonus. They are not cutting or trading him after 1 year.
 
JetsWillWin said:
One guy I wouldn't mind seeing come back is David Patten. He has literally fallen to 4th or 5th on the WAS depth chart, and after an injury plagued 2006 season, he's probably in danger of getting cut. He will not be able to produce to the level he did before, but he's a veteran WR who knows the system well. You could do a lot worse than signing him out of FA should he be released.
Many thought Patten would be cut this past year and resign with the Pats but Washington held onto him. With another year of wear and tear on his body, I'm not sure he is the player we remember. Worth a look if he comes available though.Why would someone think that the Titans had "gotten their moneys worth" out of Givens? They gave him a significant signing bonus. They are not cutting or trading him after 1 year.
Yeah - you could copy and paste what I said about Patten and I probably said the same thing last season after WAS signed ARE and Lloyd. I agree Givens isn't going anywhere. He got about $12 million in bonus - that'd be a pretty big hit. He's still a valuable player - just got hurt.
 
Probably going to be a little slow the next few weeks till the FA market starts to kick in, and then April with all of the Rookie Draft speculation. Was reading about Daniel Graham. If the Pats only kept Graham or Watson, who do you think would be the better option. I have always liked Graham more, probably because of his blocking ability as well as his receiving skills.

Patriots | Graham looking to showcase receiving skills more

Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:02:35 -0800

Michael Felger, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots TE Daniel Graham, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent, would like to remain with the team, but also would like to be featured more as a receiver and not just as a blocking tight end, according to TE Benjamin Watson. "I think for Dan, like a lot of guys on this team, the No. 1 thing is winning games," Watson said. "No matter what it takes, whether it's catching 10 balls or no balls. That being said, he is a tight end and you cut the college tape on Dan - and I remember doing that at Georgia - you see him running across my screen every down because he's catching balls all over the place. So that's a part of him that he wants to develop. But he's such a great blocker. He's one of the best blockers on the team, so he's been called on to do that a lot also."

 
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nerangers said:
Probably going to be a little slow the next few weeks till the FA market starts to kick in, and then April with all of the Rookie Draft speculation. Was reading about Daniel Graham. If the Pats only kept Graham or Watson, who do you think would be the better option. I have always liked Graham more, probably because of his blocking ability as well as his receiving skills.

Patriots | Graham looking to showcase receiving skills more

Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:02:35 -0800

Michael Felger, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots TE Daniel Graham, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent, would like to remain with the team, but also would like to be featured more as a receiver and not just as a blocking tight end, according to TE Benjamin Watson. "I think for Dan, like a lot of guys on this team, the No. 1 thing is winning games," Watson said. "No matter what it takes, whether it's catching 10 balls or no balls. That being said, he is a tight end and you cut the college tape on Dan - and I remember doing that at Georgia - you see him running across my screen every down because he's catching balls all over the place. So that's a part of him that he wants to develop. But he's such a great blocker. He's one of the best blockers on the team, so he's been called on to do that a lot also."
I'm curious how a comment like this comes into play during negotiations. Does Graham and his agent try to get assurances about his involvment in the passing game? With some coaches, they might get it...but I can't see Belichick doing so. Which isn't to say Graham might not get more catches...just that BB won't promise it.I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.

 
I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
 
I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
 
I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
Just looking at Watson's cap number - $1,093,386Might be cheaper to teach him how to block better than throw a lot of money at Graham! :lmao:
 
Graham is a very easy player to like. He brings a lot to the table and his blocking is very important to the Pats O. Yet, there is one major thing to consider if you're thinking of giving him big money. His injury history. He's just not the most durable guy and if he's playing there's a good chance he's on the injury list. Here's his games played during his career:

06-12

05-11

04-14

03-14

02-12

That means he has never played a full 16. When you factor that along with his stats the last two years (21-235-2 & 16-235-3) you have to wonder if he's the right guy to tie good money up with. As stated the guy is a solid piece of the puzzle for the Pats but when you look at the whole picture you have to be careful with how much money you give him because he's not going to be productive on the sideline.

 
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I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.

If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
Just looking at Watson's cap number - $1,093,386Might be cheaper to teach him how to block better than throw a lot of money at Graham! :no:
That's not so accurate in regards to what it would cost them if they traded him.cap number=bonus+salary+LTBE incentives(likely to be earned).

BTW For more info-

Miguel rocks http://www.patscap.com

Also, on another note-Brady is due to make 13mil then 10mil in 08 and 09. If they don't use up the cap again in 07 they're applying more of his bonus to the the 07 cap. I think it said 18mil of bonus left.

 
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
I believe that there are designated trading periods and I am not sure with a month to go before the season officially roles over that trades are allowed at this exact moment. IIRC, the new trading period starts around March 1st (this year it may be March 2nd or whenver the "official" new NFL season ends/starts). So Graham could not be traded unless he was under contract (and since he will be a free agent he would need a new contract first).
 
I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.

If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
Just looking at Watson's cap number - $1,093,386Might be cheaper to teach him how to block better than throw a lot of money at Graham! :lmao:
That's not so accurate in regards to what it would cost them if they traded him.cap number=bonus+salary+LTBE incentives(likely to be earned).

BTW For more info-

Miguel rocks http://www.patscap.com

Also, on another note-Brady is due to make 13mil then 10mil in 08 and 09. If they don't use up the cap again in 07 they're applying more of his bonus to the the 07 cap. I think it said 18mil of bonus left.
Hey Bri,That is where I got the Cap number from...look in the Total Cap Figure column for Watson.

I agree with Boston about not wanting to tie up a lot of Money just because he can block. Watson's Cap numbers look very favorable through 2009

 
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
I believe that there are designated trading periods and I am not sure with a month to go before the season officially roles over that trades are allowed at this exact moment. IIRC, the new trading period starts around March 1st (this year it may be March 2nd or whenver the "official" new NFL season ends/starts). So Graham could not be traded unless he was under contract (and since he will be a free agent he would need a new contract first).
This is correct. IIRC trading opens on the same day as FA. Therefore, Graham may be resigned, but he cannot be traded ...
 
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
I believe that there are designated trading periods and I am not sure with a month to go before the season officially roles over that trades are allowed at this exact moment. IIRC, the new trading period starts around March 1st (this year it may be March 2nd or whenver the "official" new NFL season ends/starts). So Graham could not be traded unless he was under contract (and since he will be a free agent he would need a new contract first).
I hadn't thought of this just referring to contract.
 
I'm not sure about the "keep Graham or Watson" because (at least this year) that's not really the question. Watson will be back...Graham might not be. Although I hope he is.
I'm not so sure about that Exile...anyone can be traded at anytime, correct? If they thought they could get value for Watson, and keep Graham, I think the Pats could do that. Contracts are not set in stone it seems. I could be wrong though...I am sure someone here will set me straight.It is quite possible the Pats just keep both.
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.

If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
Just looking at Watson's cap number - $1,093,386Might be cheaper to teach him how to block better than throw a lot of money at Graham! :yes:
That's not so accurate in regards to what it would cost them if they traded him.cap number=bonus+salary+LTBE incentives(likely to be earned).

BTW For more info-

Miguel rocks http://www.patscap.com

Also, on another note-Brady is due to make 13mil then 10mil in 08 and 09. If they don't use up the cap again in 07 they're applying more of his bonus to the the 07 cap. I think it said 18mil of bonus left.
Hey Bri,That is where I got the Cap number from...look in the Total Cap Figure column for Watson.

I agree with Boston about not wanting to tie up a lot of Money just because he can block. Watson's Cap numbers look very favorable through 2009
I think you're misunderstanding me or terms here.That cap number is what Watson costs the Pats if he stays with them. If he is cut or traded it increases(another column at Miguel's)

 
FWIW if a player is traded a team can apply his cap hit to the current year or the next year in the latest CBA.

 
Anyone can be traded that's under contract-Watson.Graham could (in theory) be traded for the next month (when he becomes a UFA) but no team would do it and it's just silly.If a player is traded the bonus is applied(rather than spread out) to the current team's cap but the salary goes with him.
I believe that there are designated trading periods and I am not sure with a month to go before the season officially roles over that trades are allowed at this exact moment. IIRC, the new trading period starts around March 1st (this year it may be March 2nd or whenver the "official" new NFL season ends/starts). So Graham could not be traded unless he was under contract (and since he will be a free agent he would need a new contract first).
I hadn't thought of this just referring to contract.
Hey David,Did some looking over the new CBA. While I said it was silly and wouldn't happen, it still got my curiousity going. It appears if it is a capped year(has been since strike) the contract ends in March(end of NFL cap year). If it's uncapped, it's the calendar date a contract is done. Above you used "season" I used "cap year". Pretty sure we're both referring to the same thing. Trading period stops at the close of the season. eh FWIW
 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
I understand Ravens LB Adelius (sp?) Thomas is a free agent?Can we sign him, like right now? :ph34r:
PFT had this to say about Thomas:Report: Packers to pursue Adalius Thomas Green Bay will reportedly be one of the first teams to contact free agent Adalius Thomas if Baltimore doesn't slap him with the franchise tag.It's still up in the air whether the Ravens will do so, and they have until Feb. 22 to decide. If the Packers land Thomas, likely to the tune of roughly three years, $15 million with the bulk of the money guaranteed, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila will probably be a cap casualty. Thomas would play mostly with his hand down opposite fellow Pro Bowler Aaron Kampman. Feb. 11 - 2:37 pm et
 
Reiss' Blog started breaking down the Pats needs via FA:

Top need: LBs (full link)

PATS POSITION: The Patriots' need at this position was evident when second-year player Eric Alexander was given his first career start in the AFC Championship game. While Alexander might develop into a solid linebacker, the fact he was called upon in such a critical situation highlighted the Patriots' need to add more depth and speed to this position. This is also the oldest positional spot on the roster.
Lance Briggs (Chicago)Chris Draft (Carolina)

Donnie Edwards (San Diego)

London Fletcher-Baker (Buffalo)

Napolean Harris

Orlando Huff (Arizona)

Cato June (Indianapolis)

Kawika Mitchell (Kansas City)

Rob Morris (Indianapolis)

Antwan Peek (Houston)

Alshermond Singleton (Dallas)

Peter Sirmon (Tennessee)

Donnie Spragan (Miami)

Adalius Thomas (Baltimore)

No. 2 need: CBs (full article)

PATS POSITION: The Patriots' need is contingent on Asante Samuel's free-agent situation. Given the lack of proven options in free agency, it would be surprising from this corner if the Patriots let Samuel hit the open market.
Phillip Buchanon (Tampa Bay) Nate Clements (Buffalo)

Travis Fisher (St. Louis)

Jamar Fletcher (Detroit)

Nick Harper (Indianapolis)

Roderick Hood (Philadelphia)

Tory James (Cincinnati)

David Macklin (Arizona)

Dexter McCleon (Houston)

Asante Samuel (New England)

Lewis Sanders (Houston)

Lenny Walls (Kansas City)

Kenny Wright (Washington)

I don't think the Pats will overpay for players like LB Briggs and Thomas, but there are a few others out that should peak there interest. Looking at the CB list, it might be best just to keep Samuels.

Also Patriots offseason needs (full article) (from Patriots.com)

Linebacker

Wide Receiver

Defensive back

Running Back

Punt Returner

I don't think anyone is surprised to see Linebacker, Wide Reciever, and Defensive back on the list. Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.

 
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Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
 
Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
To replace Kevin Faulk?Darius Walker in the 3rd... :lmao:
 
Anyone think the Pats will take a serious look at Dre Bly?"Lions president Matt Millen and coach Rod Marinelli have given cornerback Dre’ Bly permission to seek a trade."

 
Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
To replace Kevin Faulk?Darius Walker in the 3rd... :cry:
Oh I agree they are getting older, and that is why we brought in Maroney last year. I was surprised to see it as a weakness though, although the RBs definitely were a letdown during the playoff run. I didn't think Evans was that old. I sort of wish they had not let go of Patrick Cobbs last year to the Steelers, who I think then sent him to the Dolphins?
 
Anyone think the Pats will take a serious look at Dre Bly?"Lions president Matt Millen and coach Rod Marinelli have given cornerback Dre’ Bly permission to seek a trade."
If they plan on letting Samuel walk (which I don't see unless they get solid compensation or if they sign another big time free agent like Thomas) than I would think they'd at least sniff around there. Even with Samuel onboard the Pats need to beef up there CBs so I'm sure they're going to be doing their due dilligence on veterans like Bly or Harper who are available or any quality CBs that are in the draft.
 
Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
To replace Kevin Faulk?Darius Walker in the 3rd... :confused:
Oh I agree they are getting older, and that is why we brought in Maroney last year. I was surprised to see it as a weakness though, although the RBs definitely were a letdown during the playoff run. I didn't think Evans was that old. I sort of wish they had not let go of Patrick Cobbs last year to the Steelers, who I think then sent him to the Dolphins?
Not only are Faulk and Dillon getting older but both of them seem to be nicked up all the time (which comes with age). They're both still productive so it will be interesting to see what their backfield looks like next year. I'd be surprised if Faulk isn't back because his contract isn't big and the fact he helps on special teams makes him a nice bang for the buck. As for Dillon, that's anyone's guess. He could be back but if he is I'd be shocked if it's for more than 2007.Overall, I think one of the weaknesses in this area is the playcalling, especially with Maroney. I'm not a big Josh McDaniel fan and I just don't think he used Maroney's talents the correct way. There were too many games where they used him like Jerome Bettis. The kid can run between the tackles but he's really dangerous in open space and they need to get more creative with him.
 
Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
To replace Kevin Faulk?Darius Walker in the 3rd...

:fishing:
Oh I agree they are getting older, and that is why we brought in Maroney last year. I was surprised to see it as a weakness though, although the RBs definitely were a letdown during the playoff run. I didn't think Evans was that old. I sort of wish they had not let go of Patrick Cobbs last year to the Steelers, who I think then sent him to the Dolphins?
Not only are Faulk and Dillon getting older but both of them seem to be nicked up all the time (which comes with age). They're both still productive so it will be interesting to see what their backfield looks like next year. I'd be surprised if Faulk isn't back because his contract isn't big and the fact he helps on special teams makes him a nice bang for the buck. As for Dillon, that's anyone's guess. He could be back but if he is I'd be shocked if it's for more than 2007.Overall, I think one of the weaknesses in this area is the playcalling, especially with Maroney. I'm not a big Josh McDaniel fan and I just don't think he used Maroney's talents the correct way. There were too many games where they used him like Jerome Bettis. The kid can run between the tackles but he's really dangerous in open space and they need to get more creative with him.
Faulk's cap number is as big as Dillon's (a little over 4 million). I agree that they need to think about a replacement for Faulk but I dont think it is a major concern. Maroney took on a good portion of Faulk's role during the regular season. It seemed like the Pats didnt trust Maroney in the playoffs so they went back to Faulk. Hopefully with another full season, Maroney can handle that role in the playoffs next year. I think Dillon will still be around so Maroney will still be spliltting time with Dillon and can also assume the role as the Pats go to receiver out of the backfield.
 
BTW. I wouldnt waste a 3rd round pick on Darius Walker. The Pats need too much help on Defense. I dont think Walker is an NFL talent.

 
Running back was a little suprising. Personally I think the running game has some good pieces to the puzzle in Maroney, Faulk, Dillon, and Evans. I think Evans will be resigned. I could see them maybe looking at a Veteran for Dillon only if the price was right though.
K.Faulk will be 31 at the start of the '07 season and C.Dillon will turn 33 this coming October...in fact H.Evans will turn 29 near the end of this year as well...if nothing else it would be nice to see some youth added...
To replace Kevin Faulk?Darius Walker in the 3rd...

:yes:
Oh I agree they are getting older, and that is why we brought in Maroney last year. I was surprised to see it as a weakness though, although the RBs definitely were a letdown during the playoff run. I didn't think Evans was that old. I sort of wish they had not let go of Patrick Cobbs last year to the Steelers, who I think then sent him to the Dolphins?
Not only are Faulk and Dillon getting older but both of them seem to be nicked up all the time (which comes with age). They're both still productive so it will be interesting to see what their backfield looks like next year. I'd be surprised if Faulk isn't back because his contract isn't big and the fact he helps on special teams makes him a nice bang for the buck. As for Dillon, that's anyone's guess. He could be back but if he is I'd be shocked if it's for more than 2007.Overall, I think one of the weaknesses in this area is the playcalling, especially with Maroney. I'm not a big Josh McDaniel fan and I just don't think he used Maroney's talents the correct way. There were too many games where they used him like Jerome Bettis. The kid can run between the tackles but he's really dangerous in open space and they need to get more creative with him.
Faulk's cap number is as big as Dillon's (a little over 4 million). I agree that they need to think about a replacement for Faulk but I dont think it is a major concern. Maroney took on a good portion of Faulk's role during the regular season. It seemed like the Pats didnt trust Maroney in the playoffs so they went back to Faulk. Hopefully with another full season, Maroney can handle that role in the playoffs next year. I think Dillon will still be around so Maroney will still be spliltting time with Dillon and can also assume the role as the Pats go to receiver out of the backfield.
http://www.patscap.com/This guy has Faulk's cap # at 3.2 while Dillon's is 4.4 (it's also unofficial numbers). It will be interesting to see how their backfield looks going into 07. There's a few scenarios that can play out and I can't say I'd be surprised if they go with the same backfield or if they try to get younger (and more durable).

 
No. 3 need: WRs

PATS POSITION: The Patriots have every receiver but Troy Brown currently under contract for 2007, and Brown could still return. Adding a top target should be a priority, as the team needs a go-to option in key situations for Tom Brady, which was evident in the final two playoff games.
Drew Bennett (Tennessee) Corey Bradford (Detroit)

Troy Brown (New England)

Kevin Curtis (St. Louis)

Andre' Davis (Buffalo)

Bobby Engram (Seattle)

Justin Gage (Chicago)

Az-Zahir Hakim (San Diego)

Bethel Johnson (Vikings)

Dennis Northcutt (Cleveland)

Donte' Stallworth (Philadelphia)

Travis Taylor (Minnesota)

Bobby Wade (Tennessee)

Troy Walters (Arizona)

Kelley Washington (Cincinnati)

Alvis Whitted (Oakland)

 
No. 4 need: Safety

PATS POSITION: Last year, the Patriots stocked the roster with safeties to bolster special teams and guard against injury concerns. The team was hit hard at the position anyway. Starters Rodney Harrison and Eugene Wilson, who are coming off injuries, are both under contract, as are top backups Artrell Hawkins, James Sanders, Tebucky Jones and Mel Mitchell. Still, the team figures to add at least one player at the position, and could add more if it plays Wilson more at cornerback.
Jay Bellamy (New Orleans) Colin Branch (Carolina)

Deon Grant (Jacksonville)

Robert Griffith (Arizona)

Ken Hamlin (Seattle)

Terrence Holt (Detroit)

Todd Johnson (Chicago)

Kevin Kaesviharn (Cincinnati)

Michael Lewis (Philadelphia)

Tony Parrish (Dallas)

Brian Russell (Cleveland)

Gerome Sapp (Baltimore)

Lance Schulters (Atlanta)

Travares Tillman (Miami)

Shaun Williams (Carolina)

Tank Williams (Minnesota)

 
Bare minimum-I would simply like to get Givens back. The titans have hardly received their "money's worth" from him. Givens is recoverring from a serious injury. I just don't see it costing the Pats much at all to get him. One sure handed vet that gets it done would satisfy me. Yeah I want 3 pro bowl WRs but realistically a sure handed vet would do it. I'd be OK with Jackson as there's no pressing need for him to play. The drops that frustrate me would go away. One sure handed WR is definitely on my "Xmas" list.
I would make a play for Drew Bennett,I think he would fit the Pats system.I would also try to keep Samuel, and let Graham walk.Dave Thomas can fill Graham's shoes, imo.
 
Bare minimum-I would simply like to get Givens back. The titans have hardly received their "money's worth" from him. Givens is recoverring from a serious injury. I just don't see it costing the Pats much at all to get him. One sure handed vet that gets it done would satisfy me. Yeah I want 3 pro bowl WRs but realistically a sure handed vet would do it. I'd be OK with Jackson as there's no pressing need for him to play. The drops that frustrate me would go away. One sure handed WR is definitely on my "Xmas" list.
I would make a play for Drew Bennett,I think he would fit the Pats system.I would also try to keep Samuel, and let Graham walk.Dave Thomas can fill Graham's shoes, imo.
:lmao: I think Drew Bennett would make a great Patriot. I think his injury issues could be lessened in NE as he wouldnt be overworked because of the Pats offense.
 
I like Bennett as well...the issue with him will be that it's a thin free agent class at WR and he could benefit from that and get overpaid. Kevin Curtis is interesting because he adds something the Pats need. Speed on the outside with big play ability.

One thing to think about with the Pats is trading. They have made trades for skill position players the last three years (Dillon, Andre Davis and Doug Gabriel...they also traded for Duane Starks and Jonathan Sullivan and traded Tebucky Jones and Deion Branch so the're not afraid to deal). That's another avenue to think about.

 
Samuel tagged

The Patriots informed cornerback Asante Samuel today that they are placing the franchise tag on him. Adam Schefter first reported the news on the NFL Network.

Samuel reaction

The agent for Asante Samuel said his client is not upset about the Patriots placing the franchise tag on him.

"We don't look at it as a bad thing," Alonzo Shavers said on Friday night. "This is a step in the process in working toward a long-term deal."

Asked if Samuel would hold out, Shavers said: "That is not our intention at all."

I think this is a great move and great news for the Pats and their fans!!! :goodposting:

 
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