New Orleans Saints @ Seattle Seahawks Playoff Thread (2 Viewers)

[Breesisdaman]

Wilson was just special in that last game, the Saints were keying on Lynch. I think that was a big mistake. Wilson is the key to that offense. Hope they get their game plan right this time because they will need one hell of a game plan.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I think the Saints secondary is a huge problem. They couldn't stop the Eagles when those scrubs were in the game. I also don't think they'll be able to run the ball like they did against the Eagles. Being one dimensional against a team like Seattle is a recipe for disaster. I really want a close game but I think Seattle wins by a minimum of 14. I could definitely root for either of these teams to win it all.

 

[proninja]

At least the Saints have faced and know Harvin from having played against the vikings in 2009 and 10. He is not a stranger, he is a concern but.... He can't stay healthy.

Look, he's obviously a total wild card, but Ehlo was pretty familiar with Jordan. I'm not sure that's a good argument.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I think the Saints secondary is a huge problem. They couldn't stop the Eagles when those scrubs were in the game. I also don't think they'll be able to run the ball like they did against the Eagles. Being one dimensional against a team like Seattle is a recipe for disaster. I really want a close game but I think Seattle wins by a minimum of 14. I could definitely root for either of these teams to win it all.

That was only with Lewis out. Philly was not effective in the air when Lewis was in the game.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/01/new_orleans_saints_did_you_see.html

Hopefully Lewis is back for the Seahawks of the Saints are in big trouble.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

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BTW, Chris Cooley Fan, did the Saints organization shove links of boudin inside of you? If there is a Saints thread you seem to find it. Just take a deep breath and go grab a Muffuletta from Central Grocery!

Ha, yeah, really what is the story, man???

 

[ImTheScientist]

I think the atmosphere may actually be less hostile since it's an early Saturday game as opposed to the Monday night, get liquored up all day situation. Yes, I understand it'll still be mind numbingly loud. Night crowds just have an extra but of insanity that early crowds rarely match.

You are speaking out of your ###. This is the time of the majority of their games. Get real.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I think the Saints secondary is a huge problem. They couldn't stop the Eagles when those scrubs were in the game. I also don't think they'll be able to run the ball like they did against the Eagles. Being one dimensional against a team like Seattle is a recipe for disaster. I really want a close game but I think Seattle wins by a minimum of 14. I could definitely root for either of these teams to win it all.

That was only with Lewis out. Philly was not effective in the air when Lewis was in the game.http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/01/new_orleans_saints_did_you_see.html

Hopefully Lewis is back for the Seahawks of the Saints are in big trouble.

More trouble than they were in the first matchup?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you're the Saint, this isn't a second shot you want. Sea will go for the kill this time, not just to wound.

Yeah know what you mean but it's Saints fans that would rather be anywhere else, I think the Saints themselves are more than ok with it because they live off challenges, benchmarks, defying doubters and press and even the franchise's own history. I love this situation for that reason, if not now when - you have to face your demons and I'm all for getting it out the way sooner than later.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was good to see the balance with the offense last night. Double good to go to on the road and physically dominate a hot team.

cool story...but the hawks have shown they are physically dominant over the Aints. Not sure how you can believe the outcome the second time around will be any different.

And before last night the Saints had never won a playoff game on the road. That's why you play the game, hoss.

I'll add the NFL annals are filled with teams that lost a game to another team earlier badly and came back to beat them in the playoffs.

Baltimore last year being a prime example.

 

[ImTheScientist]

If you're the Saint, this isn't a second shot you want. Sea will go for the kill this time, not just to wound.

Yeah know what you mean but it's Saints fans that would rather be anywhere else, I think the Saints themselves are more than ok with it because they live off challenges, benchmarks, defying doubters and press and even the franchise's own history. I love this situation for that reason, if not now when - you have to face your demons and I'm all for getting it out the way sooner than later.

I know you are just trying to be optimistic....saints would have been better off playing the panthers.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I think the Saints secondary is a huge problem. They couldn't stop the Eagles when those scrubs were in the game. I also don't think they'll be able to run the ball like they did against the Eagles. Being one dimensional against a team like Seattle is a recipe for disaster. I really want a close game but I think Seattle wins by a minimum of 14. I could definitely root for either of these teams to win it all.

That was only with Lewis out. Philly was not effective in the air when Lewis was in the game.http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/01/new_orleans_saints_did_you_see.html

Hopefully Lewis is back for the Seahawks of the Saints are in big trouble.

More trouble than they were in the first matchup?

Yes, more trouble. But he'll be back I expect.

 

[ImTheScientist]

It was good to see the balance with the offense last night. Double good to go to on the road and physically dominate a hot team.

cool story...but the hawks have shown they are physically dominant over the Aints. Not sure how you can believe the outcome the second time around will be any different.

And before last night the Saints had never won a playoff game on the road. That's why you play the game, hoss.

I'll add the NFL annals are filled with teams that lost a game to another team earlier badly and came back to beat them in the playoffs.

Baltimore last year being a prime example.

They are also filled with teams that lost twice.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you're the Saint, this isn't a second shot you want. Sea will go for the kill this time, not just to wound.

Yeah know what you mean but it's Saints fans that would rather be anywhere else, I think the Saints themselves are more than ok with it because they live off challenges, benchmarks, defying doubters and press and even the franchise's own history. I love this situation for that reason, if not now when - you have to face your demons and I'm all for getting it out the way sooner than later.

I know you are just trying to be optimistic....saints would have been better off playing the panthers.

We just had our first road playoff win in 47 years - you don't think we're optimistic?

Yes I do like the CAR matchup on the rebound, but if for some reason we had that this week and somehow won we'd just be going to Seattle next week anyway quite possibly. Let's just do it now.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

It was good to see the balance with the offense last night. Double good to go to on the road and physically dominate a hot team.

cool story...but the hawks have shown they are physically dominant over the Aints. Not sure how you can believe the outcome the second time around will be any different.

And before last night the Saints had never won a playoff game on the road. That's why you play the game, hoss.

I'll add the NFL annals are filled with teams that lost a game to another team earlier badly and came back to beat them in the playoffs.

Baltimore last year being a prime example.

They are also filled with teams that lost twice.

Ok so it's a wash.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

If you're the Saint, this isn't a second shot you want. Sea will go for the kill this time, not just to wound.

Yeah know what you mean but it's Saints fans that would rather be anywhere else, I think the Saints themselves are more than ok with it because they live off challenges, benchmarks, defying doubters and press and even the franchise's own history. I love this situation for that reason, if not now when - you have to face your demons and I'm all for getting it out the way sooner than later.

Having played in Seattle once may be helpful, you've actually experienced the atmosphere and challenges pretty recently. Like I said though, I think the Seahawks have been holding back some on offense and that will present new challenges for the Saints. Saints can't make any mistakes, and hope Seattle does IMO.

 

[Ballstein]

I think the atmosphere may actually be less hostile since it's an early Saturday game as opposed to the Monday night, get liquored up all day situation. Yes, I understand it'll still be mind numbingly loud. Night crowds just have an extra but of insanity that early crowds rarely match.

This game isn't in New Orleans

 

[ImTheScientist]

Yes I'm confident. I had to read 20 pages of Saint fan chatter last time only to have them all vanish after the first quarter of the last game. Nothing any of you argued came true.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Is jimmy graham injured?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Big win. Low expectations for this one. I think the last meeting could have gone differently without that early pick six, but obviously that's what happens in Seattle. We've got big flaws, the Seahawks have few. I think we'll execute better than last time but unless the Seahawks turn the ball over multiple times, they'll march on.

I don't think it was execution - I do agree with the dominant theme, Seattle dominated.

Saints had few real mistakes on offense, the strip sack and score, but no picks and no fumbles.

What I saw was the Saints shutting it down after falling behind 20-7. I was impressed they got the TD, I really thought that game could have been 50-0. It was just a bit weird, just about every time in that situation the Saints have gone pass happy, Brees is apt to throw the ball 60 times in that kind of game, good bad or ugly. Instead they just tucked it in and called it a night.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Yes I'm confident. I had to read 20 pages of Saint fan chatter last time only to have them all vanish after the first quarter of the last game. Nothing any of you argued came true.

Well some of us were likely watching the games with friends and family, I was.

I completely agree with the bolded, but then I don't think much of what Seahawks fans predicted, besides the win, came true. I do remember one poster predicting a blowout, but I think nearly everyone NO & SEA predicted a big game by Lynch in such a scenario - that did not happen.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Not often you get a 2nd shot like this.

Let's get it started



Saints are currently 8.5 point underdogs. I love it!

Honestly, I was thinking the line would be 10-11.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I had to read 20 pages of Saint fan chatter last time only to have them all vanish after the first quarter of the last game.

You, of all people, should not be complaining about this.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

was hoping for Philly to win yesterday so we could possibly get a good divisional game in Seattle. I think we're going to have to wait til the NFCCG for a good game in Seattle now.

That hurts, bro.

i would be perfectly fine with someone bumping that after the game with some serious wtfpwnage, but I just don't think New Orleans matches up with Seattle well on either side of the ball at all. but it's the playoffs and anything can happen.

The Saints specialize stretching the field - and it just so happens Seattle's defense is awesome sideline to sideline and vertically too.

The most impressive thing to me last game was the LB corps.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Meh, I can't do it. Saints fans are ok with me and I actually kind of like the Saints in general.

I love you all.

What's going on with all the Saints injuries? Who got hurt yesterday that's crucial to the Saints? Pierre? Sproles? Defensive players?

Pierre may be back. Keenan Lewis looks to have suffered a concussion so who knows. He's our best corner by far. Kenny Vaccaro was our best safety and he's out for the season. His replacement Harper was the guy that tripped over himself on the Cooper touchdown.

Jeez, Harper, that was absurd. Had a line on the ball too.

 

[valhallan]

Big win. Low expectations for this one. I think the last meeting could have gone differently without that early pick six, but obviously that's what happens in Seattle. We've got big flaws, the Seahawks have few. I think we'll execute better than last time but unless the Seahawks turn the ball over multiple times, they'll march on.

I don't think it was execution - I do agree with the dominant theme, Seattle dominated.

Saints had few real mistakes on offense, the strip sack and score, but no picks and no fumbles.

What I saw was the Saints shutting it down after falling behind 20-7. I was impressed they got the TD, I really thought that game could have been 50-0. It was just a bit weird, just about every time in that situation the Saints have gone pass happy, Brees is apt to throw the ball 60 times in that kind of game, good bad or ugly. Instead they just tucked it in and called it a night.

Pick 6, strip sack, same thing. I agree they packed it in.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

We know the Seahawks will not see the same gameplan from the Saints again. What to expect?

- Let's say Pierre returns - do we see a large dose of Ingram again?

- Why so little Sproles?

- A variety of coverages handled Graham. The LBers, especially Wright, seemed to handle him just fine.

- Ingram saw 4 targets vs PHI - I was pretty excited to see this, of course they weren't as effective as when Pierre gets the screen.

- The Saints line was dominated by Seattle's front last game. Is there any fix in terms of formations or playcalling that could change this? Biggest change so far is Armstead.

- Have to stop Lynch again. But nothing changes if Wilson is allowed to romp free again, he constantly rolled out to great effect, pretty much every receiver seemed open when thrown to. Seemed like a lot of read option used to great effect.

- The last game was the worst offensive and defensive performance of Payton's coaching career/ Does this really happen again?

- In terms of silver lining Cincy just lost and they had an even better home record than SEA (8-0 to 7-1).

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On the Seahawks side, I think we will see a lot of the same as before.

- Wilson was lights out fantastic. What the Seahawks fans said was true and it's borne out in the stats, he's elite at home. The most impressive throw was the one over the middle to Baldwin, fantastic touch, beautiful throw. Really, it looked like the Seahawks could have driven for a score on every drive if they had wanted to.

- Harvin: to me the biggest factor here is KO and punt returns, Big problem. - On offense, I have no idea, he could be awesome; or maybe working him in will be almost like it's his first game back. I don't know the chemistry will be there and it may just disrupt their usual flow. Hopeful thinking maybe, it's just not a given to me he will be a superstar out the gate.

- What happened at San Fran and AZ? Thoughts? The Saints beat both of these teams. The NYG game was a predictably awesome defensive performance, but the offense was pretty tepid there. - Since we last met the Seahawks have lost twice and they are 2-2, only 1-1 at home. I realize that Arizona is a terrific defense and is a division rival, but then the Saints have a darn good defense and they have a bit of knowledge about the Hawks now themselves.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seattle had very little motivation vs the Cardinals, they only had to win one of their last two and the Cards were playing for their playoff lives. Add in that I think the Cardinals are the third best team in the NFC, and it was a recipe for a home loss. People look too deep into that game, Cards are a great team and had everything on the line while the Seahawks were just out there going through the motions with base offense.

Harvin is a complete unknown, I don't think anyone can predict what he means to Seattle this week. If he's almost 100% and they can get him in space, he becomes an X factor. Seattle wins this game by running the football, playaction pass, adn great defense though, not with Harvin. Seattle's special teams are also rarely talked about, but consistently great.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

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What's going on with all the Saints injuries? Who got hurt yesterday that's crucial to the Saints? Pierre? Sproles? Defensive players?

Saints defensive starters or key players lost this year:

S Vaccaro

LB Butler

CB Robinson

DL Coleman

LB Vilma

CB Greer

LB Haralson

LB Smith

Crazy.

 

[ImTheScientist]

- What happened at San Fran and AZ? Thoughts? The Saints beat both of these teams. The NYG game was a predictably awesome defensive performance, but the offense was pretty tepid there. - Since we last met the Seahawks have lost twice and they are 2-2, only 1-1 at home. I realize that Arizona is a terrific defense and is a division rival, but then the Saints have a darn good defense and they have a bit of knowledge about the Hawks now themselves.

Since we met the saints lost twice. They were 2-2 coming into the playoffs. One loss was to the rams.....hawks just smashed the rams.What happened?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Yes I'm confident. I had to read 20 pages of Saint fan chatter last time only to have them all vanish after the first quarter of the last game. Nothing any of you argued came true.

There's something very familiar about this scenario. What could that be?

 

[valhallan]

Meanwhile, Saints fans were all over the last two pages of that MNF thread saying the better team won. Let's not let facts get in the way of ITS' trolling though.

 

[proninja]

Meanwhile, Saints fans were all over the last two pages of that MNF thread saying the better team won. Let's not let facts get in the way of ITS' trolling though.

Saints fans were very classy after that game. I was impressed.

 

[valhallan]

It would appear running the ball is a key to competing with Seattle. SF and Arizona both had strong days on the ground when they beat the Seahawks. St Louis and Tampa each racked up 200 yards rushing in close Seattle victories. Can we do that? Probably not, but Ingram has certainly looked like a real back finally.

Edit - removed Indy. Mixed up their line with Houston.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I want to see a good dose of Ingram.

 

[gianmarco]

Reasons I want the Saints to win next week:

1. So ITS can eat a bag of ##### and shut up.

2. I'm a Saints fan.

In that order.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Harper will probably blow it again. Vacarro loss is huge.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I want to see a good dose of Ingram.

So do I.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Vaccaro was a bigger loss to the Saints defense than Greer IMO. The timing sucked too, I think we would have pulled out the victory in carrolina if not for that because Jenkins and Harper pretty much blew it when he went out. Win or loose I think this is the end of the road for Roman Harper.

 

[5Rings]

Meanwhile, Saints fans were all over the last two pages of that MNF thread saying the better team won. Let's not let facts get in the way of ITS' trolling though.

Saints fans were very classy after that game. I was impressed.

I hope your fellow fans (not you or !) took notes.

 

[Hooper31]

Meanwhile, Saints fans were all over the last two pages of that MNF thread saying the better team won. Let's not let facts get in the way of ITS' trolling though.

Saints fans were very classy after that game. I was impressed.

I hope your fellow fans (not you or !) took notes.

Thanks. Appreciate being acknowledged. Quite frankly, I dread Seattle threads because of one poster now. I've got him on ignore, but I still see his nonsense when people engage him and his #### gets quoted.

I have tons of respect for Brees. He can carry a team and pull off a win. Sure, I expect Seattle to win, but there are concerns. What the #### is going on with Harvin? I was surprised to see he made it through two consecutive practices. My worry is that he's going to be more of a distraction instead of a game changer. Time will tell. I'm also concerned with KJ Wright being out. He did a marvelous job on Graham last time. Not sure how they play him this time around. Probably more Chancellor.

 

[mad sweeney]

It was good to see the balance with the offense last night. Double good to go to on the road and physically dominate a hot team.

cool story...but the hawks have shown they are physically dominant over the Aints. Not sure how you can believe the outcome the second time around will be any different.

The Aints? Doctor Detroit just spent a post defending Seattle fans in another thread. Oops.

I doubt ITS was included in any defense of Seattle fans. Seattle fans don't even want him.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Seahawks won the first game being dominant and it will be interesting to see if they go into the game overconfident. Also curious to see how the Saints handle Pierre Thomas if he is healthy.

BTW, Chris Cooley Fan, did the Saints organization shove links of boudin inside of you? If there is a Saints thread you seem to find it. Just take a deep breath and go grab a Muffuletta from Central Grocery!

Had they not lost to AZ then I'd worry about overconfidence much more than I do now.

 

[mad sweeney]

Wilson was just special in that last game, the Saints were keying on Lynch. I think that was a big mistake. Wilson is the key to that offense. Hope they get their game plan right this time because they will need one hell of a game plan.

I just hope it's been long enough since that brutal game vs New England for the Saints to recover, mentally and physically. It's hardly fair that they have to travel on a short week so soon after that Herculean effort.

 

[5Rings]

Meanwhile, Saints fans were all over the last two pages of that MNF thread saying the better team won. Let's not let facts get in the way of ITS' trolling though.

Saints fans were very classy after that game. I was impressed.

I hope your fellow fans (not you or !) took notes.

Thanks. Appreciate being acknowledged. Quite frankly, I dread Seattle threads because of one poster now. I've got him on ignore, but I still see his nonsense when people engage him and his #### gets quoted.

I have tons of respect for Brees. He can carry a team and pull off a win. Sure, I expect Seattle to win, but there are concerns. What the #### is going on with Harvin? I was surprised to see he made it through two consecutive practices. My worry is that he's going to be more of a distraction instead of a game changer. Time will tell. I'm also concerned with KJ Wright being out. He did a marvelous job on Graham last time. Not sure how they play him this time around. Probably more Chancellor.

Of course I'll be rooting for NO, but I think this is the Hawks year. Best team in the league with the best homefield advantage. Good luck, Hawks fans.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

SEA 48

NO 13

 

[mad sweeney]

Yes I'm confident. I had to read 20 pages of Saint fan chatter last time only to have them all vanish after the first quarter of the last game. Nothing any of you argued came true.

From the guy that tucked tail and ran away when Seattle lost in the playoffs last year.

 

[The General]

Game opens at SEA -8.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I want to see a good dose of Ingram.

So do I.

lol...exactly what I was thinking.

 

[biju]

Should be an interesting game. The Saints showed their cards in December and the Seahawks showed theirs. Each team needs to adapt and anticipate the next move and Seattle has had a couple weeks to add wrinkles to their playbook.

I'm also interested in whether the Harvin talk has been gamesmanship or if he's really close to playing. Part of me has to think they wouldn't waste a postseason roster spot on a decoy, and part of me thinks that would be exactly what I would want someone to think if I threw Harvin out there.

Anyway, like I said--it should be an interesting game.

 

[Mister CIA]

SEA 48NO 13

SEA 66 NO 10