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[el centro]

1st Round

1. Miami - 1-15 - Matt Ryan - QB - Boston College

The Dolphins have already added many defensive FA in open market. New boss Parcells will focus on offense with their early selections beginning with their future leader and cornerstone performer.

2. St. Louis - 3-13 - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

The Rams will focus on their front four and Dorsey gives them a difference maker with early impact ability.

3. x - Atlanta - 4-12 - Chris Long - DE - Virginia

The Falcons are trying to regroup after a disastrous ’07 season and Chris Long is the safest pick in this draft class and a cornerstone of newly formed team.

4. x - Oakland - 4-12 - * Darren McFadden - RB - Arkansas

Owner Al Davis is always trying to make a splash and McFadden gives him star value.

5. x - Kansas City - 4-12 - Sedrick Ellis - DT - Southern Cal

The Chiefs defensive line has failed miserably in recent years and Ellis could be a difference maker here.

6. NY Jets - 4-12 - * Vernon Gholston - DE/LB - Ohio St

The Jets may look to add a bookend pass rusher for new FA Calvin Pace and Gholston is flying up the charts.

7. New England (San Fran - 5-11) - Leodis McKelvin - CB - Troy University

The Pats defense took some major hits in the secondary and they will look to add a top flight cover man early in the draft.

8. Baltimore - 5-11 - Jake Long - OT - Michigan

The Ravens are looking to improve their line especially with an available bookend tackle and vet Jon Ogden expected to retire.

9. Cincinnati - 7-9 - * Rashard Mendenhall - RB - Illinois

The Bengals could surprise here and get a well rounded feature back to balance their attack.

10. New Orleans - 7-9 - Mike Jenkins - CB - South Florida

The Saints defense gets toasted weekly and Jenkins would be a fine addition for this battered secondary.

11. Buffalo - 7-9 - Keith Rivers - LB - Southern Cal

The Bills are looking for playmakers on their front seven and Rivers would be an excellent fit on this unit.

12. Denver - 7-9 - * Ryan Clady - OT - Boise St.

The Broncos must protect young Jay Cutlers’ blindside and Clady may be the best pure left tackle in this fine class.

13. Carolina - 7-9 - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Panthers will consider adding their future leader here if Brohm is still on the board in middle of the round.

14. Chicago - 7-9 - Jeff Otah - OT - Pittsburgh

The Bears have major needs on offense along the line and at wide receiver. This prospect would be a good addition to an aging unit.

15. Detroit - 7-9 - * Derrick Harvey - DE - Florida

The Lions defensive line would benefit from a top flight edge rusher and this kid is moving up quickly.

16. Arizona - 8-8 - Kentwan Balmer - DT - North Carolina

The Cardinals defense needs a playmaker upfront and this defender can be a rookie starter.

17. Minnesota - 8-8 - Chris Williams - OT - Vanderbilt

The Vikings will draft into the deep offensive tackle class early and maybe with their #1 selection.

18. Houston - 8-8 - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

The Texans will look to add a top cover man and will consider this prospect at this pick.

19. Philadelphia - 8-8 - Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma

The Eagles are looking for a true #1 receiver and like this Sooner playmaker.

20. Tampa Bay - 9-7 – * Jonathan Stewart - RB - Oregon

The Bucs’ are looking to add a starting feature back with pressing injury problems with Cadillac Williams

21. Washington - 9-7 - Quentin Groves - DE/LB - Auburn

The Redskins will address the defensive line early and possibly on the outside first with this fast rising prospect.

22. Dallas (Cleve - 10-6) - * DeSean Jackson - WR - California

The Cowboys have little depth and advancing age here with both TO and Terry Glenn over 34 years old by opening day.

23. Pittsburgh - 10-6 - * Aqib Talib - CB - Kansas

The Steelers hope to address their secondary early in the draft especially on the corner.

24. Tennessee - 10-6 - * Calais Campbell - DE - Miami

The Titans suffered huge losses in FA along the line and this area could be addressed early with a few picks.

25. Seattle - 10-6 - * Branden Albert - OG - Virginia

The Seahawks' have searched in recent years for a replacement for Steve Hutchinson and it ends here if they land this blue chip guard in the late first round.

26. Jacksonville - 11-5 - * Phillip Merling - DE - Clemson

The Jaguars will look to address their front four and possibly both outside and inside early in the process.

27. San Diego - 11-5 - * Kenny Phillips - FS - Miami

The Chargers may address their secondary again early in the process especially if this talented safety is on the board.

28. Dallas - 13-3 - * Reggie Smith - CB - Oklahoma

The Boys are vulnerable on the corner and they will most likely address this spot early and probably with one of their #1 picks.

29. San Fran (Indianapolis - 13-3) - Limas Sweed - WR - Texas

The 49ers will look to address this area early and often to help Alex Smith become a reliable NFL starter.

30. Green Bay - 13-3 - Brandon Flowers - CB - Virginia Tech

The Green Bay starting corners, Harris and Woodson are both entering their 12th season next fall.

31. New England - 18-1 - Forfeited their #1 pick due to the dirty Spygate caper.

32. NY Giants - 14-6 - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CB - Tennessee St.

GM Jerry Reese is looking are playmakers in the secondary and this guy has excelled with an A this postseason.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

1st Round

11. Buffalo - 7-9 - Keith Rivers - LB - Southern Cal

The Bills are looking for playmakers on their front seven and Rivers would be an excellent fit on this unit.

I'm okay with it to this point. But with the FA additions, I don't think they'd take a linebacker, especially with Poz coming back from injury.

13. Carolina - 7-9 - Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Panthers will consider adding their future leader here if Brohm is still on the board in middle of the round.

I see little chance that Carolina goes QB.

15. Detroit - 7-9 - * Derrick Harvey - DE - Florida

The Lions defensive line would benefit from a top flight edge rusher and this kid is moving up quickly.

Had Tatum Bell re-signed before I did my mock, I would have put Harvey here too.

17. Minnesota - 8-8 - Chris Williams - OT - Vanderbilt

The Vikings will draft into the deep offensive tackle class early and maybe with their #1 selection.

18. Houston - 8-8 - Antoine Cason - CB - Arizona

The Texans will look to add a top cover man and will consider this prospect at this pick.

Why would the Vikings draft a tackle, of all positions?Cason doesn't fit the profile of a man-coverage guy very well.

20. Tampa Bay - 9-7 – * Jonathan Stewart - RB - Oregon

The Bucs’ are looking to add a starting feature back with pressing injury problems with Cadillac Williams

Not after signing Dunn.

23. Pittsburgh - 10-6 - * Aqib Talib - CB - Kansas

The Steelers hope to address their secondary early in the draft especially on the corner.

Interesting.

32. NY Giants - 14-6 - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CB - Tennessee St.

GM Jerry Reese is looking are playmakers in the secondary and this guy has excelled with an A this postseason.

A steal if he falls this far.

 

[Duk]

one of the worst possible scenarios for Dallas

 

[vandyt]

Frank Coyle doesn't get paid to write this kind of stuff, does he?

 

[poopdawg]

This is absolutely horrible!!

ETA - Im all for making bold predictions, but these are stupid.

 

[mcintyre1]

I would barf if Pitt took a corner in the first....

 

[Fiddles]

Jake Long falls to 8? ok

 

[Ridgelake]

Ummmm, there are so many ridiculous things here its not worth even trying to address them all.

 

[Harjiran]

Terrible. I give it an "F."

 

[Chaos Commish]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs.

It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too.

I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway.

Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

 

[jurb26]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

I've been trying to tell you guys this is a very good CB class. Coyle has 7 in the first.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

32. NY Giants - 14-6 - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - CB - Tennessee St.

This is the first mock draft I've looked at this year. Is DRC really supposed to go this late? I was thinking he'd be a mid first.

 

[Penguin]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

 

[vandyt]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

Not only does he not understand team needs, but he doesn't even seem to understand what team plays what type of offensive or defensive scheme. Just like the "NFL DRAFT experts" in the other thread, they only deserve respect and consideration when delivering half-way intelligent opinions and analysis, not when pumping out half-assed drivel like this mock or 1st round scouting projections on a guy like Brennan.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Jake Long falls to 8? ok

The Patriots could swap out (CBs) McKelvin with Talib and get the Steelers 1st round pick next year and a 3rd this year. Of Course, that would be the Steelers getting OT Jake Long.

 

[Brutis]

one of the worst possible scenarios for Dallas

They arent gonna draft some dwarf and THEN draft a CB that has no bussiness in rd1 and pass on DRC both times in the process. Ridiculous.

 

[vandyt]

Jake Long falls to 8? ok

The Patriots could swap out (CBs) McKelvin with Talib and get the Steelers 1st round pick next year and a 3rd this year. Of Course, that would be the Steelers getting OT Jake Long.

Long has a negative percentage chance of falling past KC.

 

[Trey]

As a Dolphins' fan, I just get more and more scared every time I see Matt Ryan at 1.01

 

[jurb26]

As a Dolphins' fan, I just get more and more scared every time I see Matt Ryan at 1.01

Feel comfort in the fact that mocks are hardly reliable. Parcells likes to build in the trenches. I think that is where he will spend the 1.01.... after trying for the entire alloted time to trade it unsuccessfully.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Not only does he not understand team needs, but he doesn't even seem to understand what team plays what type of offensive or defensive scheme.

For example?

 

[Chaos Commish]

I've been trying to tell you guys this is a very good CB class. Coyle has 7 in the first.

there's a lot of them and always a lot of need for a lot of them and in a class weak in other areas, well sure a bunch will go in the first.

 

[Brutis]

As a Dolphins' fan, I just get more and more scared every time I see Matt Ryan at 1.01

If I were a Phins or Falcon fan I would be terrified of seeing Ryan penciled in with that 1st round pick.

 

[jurb26]

I've been trying to tell you guys this is a very good CB class. Coyle has 7 in the first.

there's a lot of them and always a lot of need for a lot of them and in a class weak in other areas, well sure a bunch will go in the first.

This class seems to be stronger than recent ones IMO.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

Until the pros actually do this draft in April, how does anybody know this mock is crap? Even after this draft we won't know what really is the truth for 3-4 years. i.e. You think Jake Long should be a top 2 or top 5 pick? Nearly everyone had Robert Gallery and Tony Mandarich in the same place. Don't discount this mock. Croyle is a pro that's actually made a living in the NFL. Most mock drafters spend their time reading other peoples mocks and scouting reports. Thats why so many of them look alike. When you see a pro like Croyle with a differing opinion, maybe it should make you rethink something...

 

[Spike]

Jake Long falls to 8? ok

This was the stunner for me also.

 

[Spike]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

But Jake Long falling to #8???

 

[Raider Nation]

As a Dolphins' fan, I just get more and more scared every time I see Matt Ryan at 1.01

Feel comfort in the fact that mocks are hardly reliable. Parcells likes to build in the trenches. I think that is where he will spend the 1.01.... after trying for the entire alloted time to trade it unsuccessfully.

Yep. Having the first pick used to be a good thing. Now it's a curse. Nobody wants to pay "1st pick money" to a guy who may be no better than a player drafted 15-20 spots lower. I do think Ryan will be an excellent NFL quarterback, for the record.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

But Jake Long falling to #8???

From a straight best available player standpoint I probably have him lower than 8. I haven't formed that list, but off the top of my head I'm pretty sure that's how I feel. Do I expect him to fall that far? No. I mocked him to the Rams at #2. I saw the Cards grossly overdraft Levi last year and took note. It happens at OT all the time. I have Gohlston on tape just destroying Long. In my simplistic world, you do not draft a tackle before an end who eats him for lunch. They just might face each other someday soon. Just like you do not draft Leon Hall before Ted Ginn because Ginn destroyed Hall. But that's my simple world. Franchise LTs are so valuable the risk reward ratio drives their value. My defense of Coyle is from simplified straightforward talent evaluation giving him a mulligan he probably doesn't deserve on team needs and other analysis. Long is not Joe Thomas and he is not DBrick or Marcus McNeill. He's better than Levi Brown though, and he does have significant separation on the next OT.

 

[WampusCat43]

Coyle should stick to BPA lists. Paul Brown Stadium would be burned to the ground if they took a RB at #9.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Coyle should stick to BPA lists. Paul Brown Stadium would be burned to the ground if they took a RB at #9.

Why? EBF thinks that's a possibly good spot for Stewart. It seems to be the Bengals were trying to find someone more explosive with Irons. They want longer runs. Well, Stewart or Mendenhall are the best of both worlds.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Yeah, Coyle's mocks weren't very impressive last year either. Something to consider though. He has a staff that includes several retired NFL scouts. He himself was an NFL scout for nearly a decade. He has run an independent scouting service for NFL franchises for nearly two decades (every franchise subscribes and some endorse it with strong praise). That's almost 30 years with this gig. That said, his problem isn't talent evaluation. He's solid. Being that that is his focus for his readers and the league, he has shown a poor feel for the other half of the process. Team needs. It is something to consider. I like a lot of what I see here from a simple talent evaluation perspective. Try to divorce yourself from team needs and look at how the list flows. I've said the OTs were overrated somewhat. He seems to agree. I like Harvey and Groves before Merling he agrees. I have a red flag on Cromartie compared to others I know better. He has him falling. I originally preferred Mendenhall to Stewart until the mob here talked me out of it. He shows his hand there too. I like Reggie Smith a lot for Dallas and have mentioned a fear they may have DeSean in mind. He tabbed both. Interesting to me anyway. Anyway... this isn't great, but it isn't that bad, and Coyle has earned a little respect and consideration, gentlemen.

But Jake Long falling to #8???

From a straight best available player standpoint I probably have him lower than 8. I haven't formed that list, but off the top of my head I'm pretty sure that's how I feel. Do I expect him to fall that far? No. I mocked him to the Rams at #2. I saw the Cards grossly overdraft Levi last year and took note. It happens at OT all the time. I have Gohlston on tape just destroying Long. In my simplistic world, you do not draft a tackle before an end who eats him for lunch. They just might face each other someday soon. Just like you do not draft Leon Hall before Ted Ginn because Ginn destroyed Hall. But that's my simple world. Franchise LTs are so valuable the risk reward ratio drives their value. My defense of Coyle is from simplified straightforward talent evaluation giving him a mulligan he probably doesn't deserve on team needs and other analysis. Long is not Joe Thomas and he is not DBrick or Marcus McNeill. He's better than Levi Brown though, and he does have significant separation on the next OT.

he may have destroyed him but much harder to find good to competent OL than it is good to competent DL. so teams will always reach for the OL

 

[ConstruxBoy]

The way you can tell the "scout" draft guys from the "mock" draft guys are the scout draft guys do horrible mock drafts. Coyle's are always bad. Lande's had some stinkers too.

 

[Chaos Commish]

The way you can tell the "scout" draft guys from the "mock" draft guys are the scout draft guys do horrible mock drafts. Coyle's are always bad. Lande's had some stinkers too.

I think Rang put out an accurate winner one year. But yeah, generally their mocks are not labors of love. More like insignificant content of for a webpage. Andy should get a job over at Insiders just to help them with mocks. He's got team needs down. They need him.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

The way you can tell the "scout" draft guys from the "mock" draft guys are the scout draft guys do horrible mock drafts. Coyle's are always bad. Lande's had some stinkers too.

I think Rang put out an accurate winner one year. But yeah, generally their mocks are not labors of love. More like insignificant content of for a webpage. Andy should get a job over at Insiders just to help them with mocks. He's got team needs down. They need him.

What, so he can alienate all the Cowboys fans over there too?

 

[poopdawg]

I would barf if Pitt took a corner in the first....

If they take anything other than o-line, I shall hang myself with my terrible towel.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I don't view many mocks but this one is very odd.

I can't see Mendenhall going to Cinci in the first after drafting 2nd round RB's recently. I don't see Stewart going to Tampa either, same build and bruiser as Graham. I also don't think the Bills take a LB in the 1st. With a much bigger need at CB and WR, The Bills already got Mitchell from the Giants and have decent LB depth.

 

[WampusCat43]

Coyle should stick to BPA lists. Paul Brown Stadium would be burned to the ground if they took a RB at #9.

Why? EBF thinks that's a possibly good spot for Stewart. It seems to be the Bengals were trying to find someone more explosive with Irons. They want longer runs. Well, Stewart or Mendenhall are the best of both worlds.

Rudi/Watson/Irons/Perry/Dorsey. Bigger needs.