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Why reward such terrible reporting with your clicks and attention when there are better sites?Yourr going at it wrong. All wrong. Stop trying to find biases on either side. They exist. Be better at spotting them and self filtering them. Cnn is trash. Total and complete trash but I still browse their website. However I know when I do I will be shown a complete liberal view. I try to filter that out and just get the info. Then I might bounce over to fox to see their biased opinion. Finally I use my own mind to decide whats more true
Because I truly don't feel any are "better" 99% of the media is biased in my opinion these days.Why reward such terrible reporting with your clicks and attention when there are better sites?
Then use the 1%Because I truly don't feel any are "better" 99% of the media is biased in my opinion these days.Why reward such terrible reporting with your clicks and attention when there are better sites?
This is why I wouldn't recommend this approach as well, you are voting with those clicks. CNN and Fox don't give 2 craps why you are there, they just care you are there.Why reward such terrible reporting with your clicks and attention when there are better sites?
Also a good point.Then use the 1%
As I said, rather than rely on the media to do my thinking for me, like so many of you guys seem to need for some reason, I;'ll just do it myself. I like that idea better. I don't need to be led. remember...thats a liberal thing.Then use the 1%
Yeah....think for yourself, that's good. That's not what was being addressed. It was the fact that you waste time on CNN. That's an independent thought. I dunno...you just got through talking about how you go to CNN...maybe you didn't know we could see these sorts of things? (Oh, to the bold above, there's mountains of evidence out there validating this isn't unqiue to "liberals". Some people are even going as far as using it as their "defense" to try and get them out of some pretty substantial legal troubles.As I said, rather than rely on the media to do my thinking for me, like so many of you guys seem to need for some reason, I;'ll just do it myself. I like that idea better. I don't need to be led. remember...thats a liberal thing.
Yourr going at it wrong. All wrong. Stop trying to find biases on either side. They exist. Be better at spotting them and self filtering them. Cnn is trash. Total and complete trash but I still browse their website. However I know when I do I will be shown a complete liberal view. I try to filter that out and just get the info. Then I might bounce over to fox to see their biased opinion. Finally I use my own mind to decide whats more true
All I did was suggest you go to the 1% you claim is not biased (I disagree with that by the way....all media has some form of bias). All you're doing by going to CNN is ensuring they stay the way they are. It's illogical to go there unless your goal is to keep our media platforms like they are.Because I truly don't feel any are "better" 99% of the media is biased in my opinion these days.
Wow....You put a lot of work into that. Kudos. I'm impressed.Yeah....think for yourself, that's good. That's not what was being addressed. It was the fact that you waste time on CNN. That's an independent thought. I dunno...you just got through talking about how you go to CNN...maybe you didn't know we could see these sorts of things? (Oh, to the bold above, there's mountains of evidence out there validating this isn't unqiue to "liberals". Some people are even going as far as using it as their "defense" to try and get them out of some pretty substantial legal troubles.
Then someone asked you why you'd go there. It's a valid question. No idea why anyone goes to that site honestly. and you responded:
All I did was suggest you go to the 1% you claim is not biased (I disagree with that by the way....all media has some form of bias). All you're doing by going to CNN is ensuring they stay the way they are. It's illogical to go there unless your goal is to keep our media platforms like they are.
shove shove moooooooooooooooooove...Wow....You put a lot of work into that. Kudos. I'm impressed.
Biased media is everywhere and it isn't changing. So while it sounds really neato and cool to think by not clicking you can make it go away, you can't. And half the time you guys think you are checking out unbiased media but you are so biased in your thinking you don't even know it.
But I'm giving you an A++ on your response. Well done.
Good call. Thanks for straightening me out on thatshove shove moooooooooooooooooove...
No one said we can make it go away. What was said is you don't have to go to it. I'd like to address the third sentence but it makes no sense so I'll just ignore it. CNN is the PERFECT example that renders the second part of your first statement completely false....it's changed a lot and it's because they realized their audience demanded it.
As I said, rather than rely on the media to do my thinking for me, like so many of you guys seem to need for some reason, I;'ll just do it myself. I like that idea better. I don't need to be led. remember...thats a liberal thing.
The BIAS is garbage, yes. I agreeNot my intent to knock you on this but if you are taking in 2 sources that you feel are weighted right and left and trying to form your own opinion - it's still garbage in, garbage out - per your perspective.
I get all that and I was not trying to be difficult. I think many people don't even know what sites are biased. Heck we have had people on this board say CNN, NY Times, WAPO are not biased AT ALL...Multiple times. So it begs the question do people honestly even know what bias is or are they not seeing it when it feeds their personal tastes.I agree and didn't write before but the "Clicks = rewarding bad behavior so therefore avoid" is part of what's driving me to ask the questions. This has been my stance on Fox News for a few years. (Huffpo, I think I'm going to delete my following as a result of this exercise and where I'm aiming).
@supermike80, I appreciate your comment though my stance on the click thing plus...I'm not sure I have the interest or mental acuity to follow through in a meaningful way on your suggestion. It seems more sensible to me to give a few spots on the roster to fact-based no or slight right biased sources. Fully digesting two sides or propaganda-lite seems bonkers to me, aside from putting cash in their pockets.
I browse my apple news feed for an hour or two per night, a small portion of which is political/ national/ world news. If I end up dumping 3 sites and adding 3 sites that help me develop a more balanced overall worldview, that's probably a good thing.
Neither are going awayWhy reward such terrible reporting with your clicks and attention when there are better sites?
100% of people have bias.Because I truly don't feel any are "better" 99% of the media is biased in my opinion these days.
Yeah. So you read a variety and decide for yourself. That’s why the OP is asking for sites people read.You don't say???
What in the world are you talking about..Sometimes man I seriously have a hard time following where you go with stuff.Yeah. So you read a variety and decide for yourself. That’s why the OP is asking for sites people read.
You could offer up some sites you read like the OP asked for.What in the world are you talking about..Sometimes man I seriously have a hard time following where you go with stuff.
I said 99% of sites are biased. You spent a ton of time finding, and reposting what I said...so now how am I supposed to provide a site the OP asked for when I said that?You could offer up some sites you read like the OP asked for.
I just said - what sites do you read?I said 99% of sites are biased. You spent a ton of time finding, and reposting what I said...so now how am I supposed to provide a site the OP asked for when I said that?
I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you are after, and I think I might just quit, it's not happening for me.
Good luck. He's got it all figured out. lolI just said - what sites do you read?
TBH I skimmed what you wrote along with everyone’s posts in here just looking for media that I might not have heard or don’t frequent.
I am grabbing sites from this thread to check out. A good and useful thread @greenmountaingoatGood luck. He's got it all figured out. lol
but per your statement you are knowingly taking in two bias perspectives and deciding what your truth isThe BIAS is garbage, yes. I agree
What? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Are you saying a person cannot take in two differing points of view and make his own decision based on hearing those opinions?but per your statement you are knowingly taking in two bias perspectives and deciding what your truth is
No offense but its not logical. Two people could watch the same shows and have two wildly different ideas of what the truth is - thats not a way to find truth
What? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Are you saying a person cannot take in two differing points of view and make his own decision based on hearing those opinions?
As Joe would say COME ON MAN
yeah...thats complete gibberishI am saying that per your argument that CNN & Fox are both equally bias, if you take both of those in and compound with your own bias that you have a slim shot at reaching the truth. You can have your own opinion - but it is going to be flawed more often than not when compared to the truth.
So all jury verdicts are flawed?I am saying that per your argument that CNN & Fox are both equally bias, if you take both of those in and compound with your own bias that you have a slim shot at reaching the truth. You can have your own opinion - but it is going to be flawed more often than not when compared to the truth.
Telling you...read that a few times...It makes no sense to me..But whatever.So all jury verdicts are flawed?
So all jury verdicts are flawed?
Yes. I'd imagine they are. Similar to democracy, jury verdicts are probably the worst system to determine guilt other than all the other ones tried.So all jury verdicts are flawed?
Im not sure I’m understanding your last sentence, are you saying it’s the best system?Yes. I'd imagine they are. Similar to democracy, jury verdicts are probably the worst system to determine guilt other than all the other ones tried.
I believe CNN is mostly factual. Their presentation is biased (which facts they decide to present, in what light they present them, etc).It's a presentation of facts which is a different thing - not sure how much "bias" plays into that presentation. Verdicts can certainly be wrong based on presentations. And the verdict - or the process of getting to the verdict - is flawed if it doesn't get to the empirical truth.
Today's Tangle is about media bias: https://www.readtangle.com/why-the-media-is-broken/https://www.readtangle.com/ (centrist)
For those interested, the article does a nice job of describing his holistic take on the media landscape in a way that seems fair and insightful.Today's Tangle is about media bias: https://www.readtangle.com/why-the-media-is-broken/
It is absolutely absurd to continue this narrative, but I understand 100% why people are trying to.I've argued before that we can no longer call "the media" liberal. "The media" is defined as "the main means of mass communication (broadcasting, publishing, and the internet) regarded collectively." In today’s context, "the media" is no longer The New York Times and The Washington Post, or NBC or CBS. The places people get their news now consist of hundreds of online news outlets, YouTube channels, podcasts, radio shows, social media platforms and, increasingly, private messaging apps.