bluesclues
Footballguy
Anyone think Bryant can keep it going for Bucs next year?
What kind of contract is he signed to currently?
What kind of contract is he signed to currently?
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Next year....Antonio Bryant a top 10 WR in PPR (3 Viewers)
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ComfortablyNumb
Footballguy
I'd let somebody else take him in the top 10. He's got a long history of attitude problems and this seems to me more a career year than a breakout season.
loose circuits
Footballguy
he also has a long history of producing in bad situations. He's pretty much the only playmaker on the Bucs offense. I think he'll only get better as he matures.to the OP, he is on a 1 year deal. I imagine they get a fair deal done that makes him a Buc for a while at a reasonable level. Not like Tampa has any other receiving options
stevegamer
Footballguy
Well, since he's a top 10 PPR WR in THIS year, there's definitely a chance. I'd feel much more cmfortable saying he's atop 20 guy, if he comes back as the Bucs' #1.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
He is well within the top 10 in my PPR league right now.
massraider
Footballguy
We don't know which team he'll be on, or who his QB is going to be even if he DOES stay in Tampa.
lord_helmet
Footballguy
If Gruden stays, I don't see Bryant leaving. He's in a nice situation FF wise, I don't see why he wouldnt be top 10 next year. Drafting him in the top 10 prob won't happen though.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
Nope. You already missed out on the Bryant career year this season. Don't wind up chasing it next season. Just get over it and move on.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
overvalued already and the season isnt over yet
He's been a big part of winning numerous fantasy championships, so there's a bunch of owners out there who will have a soft spot for the guy (me included). He'll get overdrafted by one of those owners in every league, and probably won't be worth it.
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Chaka
Footballguy
I don't think that is as important to Bryant as staying in Tampa under Gruden.In Gruden's offense Bryant will get the majority of the targets and Gruden will plug enough live arms into the lineup to make him viable.
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't think that is as important to Bryant as staying in Tampa under Gruden.In Gruden's offense Bryant will get the majority of the targets and Gruden will plug enough live arms into the lineup to make him viable.
PranksterJD
Footballguy
Certainly not indisputable evidence, but the comments recently railing against Emmit don't make me think he's **completely** over it.Granted, I sold for peanuts after his first big game so I'm probably looking for any excuse to downgrade the guy.
massraider
Footballguy
In my auction league, he will be the first name I throw out there.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Only in one of my leagues he was drafted and it was late 18th round the others he wasn't drafted at all.
Like another said he had a career year.
Like another said he had a career year.
broncofan13000
Footballguy
Curious where people have Antonio Bryant ranked in Dynasty leagues...
I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history.
Bloom currently has him mid 20's
Jeff P. mid 30's
F&L late 20's
He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative.
any thoughts?
I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history.
Bloom currently has him mid 20's
Jeff P. mid 30's
F&L late 20's
He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative.
any thoughts?
BespokeJort
Footballguy
i'd put him around 15. He's a top 10 talent, and that, coupled with production and the fact that he seems to have matured somewhat, makes him a worthwhile gamble. I tend to swing for elite talent at WR and let the rest work itself out except in extreme cases. You're not gonna have a fantasy clubhouse cancer, all you need is for the guy to produce and not do anything stupid enough to keep himself off the field. In Bryant's case, I think he knows he has a good thing going, and i don't think Gruden is going to provoke him ala Parcells--he knows who his best weapon is.No disrespect to Jeff P, he puts out a lot of quality material. But mid 30's is absurd. I'm not an fbg subscriber so I'm looking at F&L's rankings, but there that would put him among guys like Josh Morgan, Torry Holt, Donnie Avery, Chris Chambers. These guys are even in the discussion of being on the same level? I like Avery, the others aren't close. It would put him below Matt Jones, Ted Ginn Jr, Laveranues Coles. You're taking these guys over him?Obviously Pasquino's rankings may have different guys there, but I'd be hard pressed to name 15 WRs i'd take over him in dynolet's seeI'd definitely trade him for1.Fitz2.Megatron3.AJ4.Steve Smith5.Jennings6.Roddy7.Boldin8.Marshall9.ColstonI would waver but still probably pull the trigger10.R. Moss11.Wayne12.BoweAbout 50/5013. VJax14. Eddie Royal15. Welkerwould think about it for a minute but probably not16. TO (the probably not only comes because the dude is gonna turn 36 next season)17. Lee Evans18. Braylonwouldn't even consider anyone else personally. Not moving a possible stud for a definite middling guy. the questions keep him out of the first tier, but talentwise he's a WR1. I'd feel more than happy with him as my WR2 and ecstatic about him as my WR3 (which he is in my money dyno since i got him in the 19th round of our startup last season)Curious where people have Antonio Bryant ranked in Dynasty leagues...I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history. Bloom currently has him mid 20'sJeff P. mid 30's F&L late 20's He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative. any thoughts?
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
In most leagues he was the top-scoring WR over the last five weeks of the regular season.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Bryant is going to be ranked lower than his talent and production level due to all of his past issues. Players like him are difficult to rank.
coolnerd
Footballguy
In new leagues he is probably going to be drafted as a 3rd with upside. In existing leagues, if you have him, he is a hold as the chance of you getting his worth to your roster is low. I suspect an owner or two will try to sneak him in package type deals versus make a straight offer for him, because his true value is difficult to guage.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
So true. Bryant's potential goes hand in hand with Gruden. If Gruden and Bryant are both in Tampa next year, Bryant is a good pick in the 10-20 range with upside of being in the top 10 again. Gruden gets a receiving weapon and will find ways to get him the ball.....Clayton in his rookie year, Galloway, now Bryant. It doesn't matter who's under center, Bryant will be getting fed.
LBH
Footballguy
i'd put him around 15. He's a top 10 talent, and that, coupled with production and the fact that he seems to have matured somewhat, makes him a worthwhile gamble. I tend to swing for elite talent at WR and let the rest work itself out except in extreme cases. You're not gonna have a fantasy clubhouse cancer, all you need is for the guy to produce and not do anything stupid enough to keep himself off the field. In Bryant's case, I think he knows he has a good thing going, and i don't think Gruden is going to provoke him ala Parcells--he knows who his best weapon is.No disrespect to Jeff P, he puts out a lot of quality material. But mid 30's is absurd. I'm not an fbg subscriber so I'm looking at F&L's rankings, but there that would put him among guys like Josh Morgan, Torry Holt, Donnie Avery, Chris Chambers. These guys are even in the discussion of being on the same level? I like Avery, the others aren't close. It would put him below Matt Jones, Ted Ginn Jr, Laveranues Coles. You're taking these guys over him?Obviously Pasquino's rankings may have different guys there, but I'd be hard pressed to name 15 WRs i'd take over him in dynolet's seeI'd definitely trade him for1.Fitz2.Megatron3.AJ4.Steve Smith5.Jennings6.Roddy7.Boldin8.Marshall9.ColstonI would waver but still probably pull the trigger10.R. Moss11.Wayne12.BoweAbout 50/5013. VJax14. Eddie Royal15. Welkerwould think about it for a minute but probably not16. TO (the probably not only comes because the dude is gonna turn 36 next season)17. Lee Evans18. Braylonwouldn't even consider anyone else personally. Not moving a possible stud for a definite middling guy. the questions keep him out of the first tier, but talentwise he's a WR1. I'd feel more than happy with him as my WR2 and ecstatic about him as my WR3 (which he is in my money dyno since i got him in the 19th round of our startup last season)Curious where people have Antonio Bryant ranked in Dynasty leagues...I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history. Bloom currently has him mid 20'sJeff P. mid 30's F&L late 20's He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative. any thoughts?
agree
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
No offense taken. I have him at 35 because he's 28 and he likely has peaked in value.I probably SHOULD raise him into the late 20s because of his newfound perceived value (and I'd probably look to sell high on him if I had him). That's a reasonable statement. I'll likely readdress his ranking and take a harder look at the 20-40 WR range sometime in the near future.As Borbely stated earlier, he's a tough one to rank. On performance this season and possible WR1 status in Tampa next year he has upside. At 28 and having a checkered NFL past and with Tampa without a long term plan as of now at QB, there's downside.I think a fantasy WR3 is a reasonable assertion.Keep in mind, the WR25-WR40 range is tricky as you're juggling veterans with a little bit of upside vs. younger players that could burst upward into the Top 15 in the next 1-2 years.The view that he is Top 15 seems high to me, but you're entitled to that viewpoint. I just think that there are a few WRs that have higher promise over the next 2-4 seasons.i'd put him around 15. He's a top 10 talent, and that, coupled with production and the fact that he seems to have matured somewhat, makes him a worthwhile gamble. I tend to swing for elite talent at WR and let the rest work itself out except in extreme cases. You're not gonna have a fantasy clubhouse cancer, all you need is for the guy to produce and not do anything stupid enough to keep himself off the field. In Bryant's case, I think he knows he has a good thing going, and i don't think Gruden is going to provoke him ala Parcells--he knows who his best weapon is.No disrespect to Jeff P, he puts out a lot of quality material. But mid 30's is absurd. I'm not an fbg subscriber so I'm looking at F&L's rankings, but there that would put him among guys like Josh Morgan, Torry Holt, Donnie Avery, Chris Chambers. These guys are even in the discussion of being on the same level? I like Avery, the others aren't close. It would put him below Matt Jones, Ted Ginn Jr, Laveranues Coles. You're taking these guys over him?Obviously Pasquino's rankings may have different guys there, but I'd be hard pressed to name 15 WRs i'd take over him in dynolet's seeI'd definitely trade him for1.Fitz2.Megatron3.AJ4.Steve Smith5.Jennings6.Roddy7.Boldin8.Marshall9.ColstonI would waver but still probably pull the trigger10.R. Moss11.Wayne12.BoweAbout 50/5013. VJax14. Eddie Royal15. Welkerwould think about it for a minute but probably not16. TO (the probably not only comes because the dude is gonna turn 36 next season)17. Lee Evans18. Braylonwouldn't even consider anyone else personally. Not moving a possible stud for a definite middling guy. the questions keep him out of the first tier, but talentwise he's a WR1. I'd feel more than happy with him as my WR2 and ecstatic about him as my WR3 (which he is in my money dyno since i got him in the 19th round of our startup last season)Curious where people have Antonio Bryant ranked in Dynasty leagues...I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history. Bloom currently has him mid 20'sJeff P. mid 30's F&L late 20's He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative. any thoughts?
Phurfur
Footballguy
He will be starting his eight season.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
I'd rather buy "next years Antonio Bryant" with a lot less money than get "this years Antonio Bryant" for such an inflated price. Now the key is to find who that will be.
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BespokeJort
Footballguy
yeah, on second thought i could see throwing some of the 08 impact rookies with high upside in ahead of him--guys like Avery, Desean Jackson, etc. I just would never move him for a guy like Housh, Holt, Ocho, guys who are as old or older, have peaked and have just as sketchy of team situations and long term value. I see him as having more upside and less downside than this type of guys. I'll admit I'm a tad biased, as I tend to be when i pull out a star in the late rounds of a startup draft. I probably wouldn't draft him top 15, but there's not many more guys than that i'd trade him for. Yeah, he's 28, but Roddy is 27, and his not breaking out earlier was a function of being an idiot, not having talent. I could see somewhere around WR25 as a reasonable ranking just due to the uncertainty, but unless something goes wrong he's likely to outperform that draft slot.The other thing is, i like players where you know if you put them in, they should produce. Yeah, if he does something dumb off the field he may get suspended etc, but if he's on the field he'll drastically outperform your opponent's WR3. As long as you have a decent backup for him, it should be a profitable gamble.If nothing changes, I see him continuing to put up fantasy WR1 numbers. and if he leaves as an FA, there's a reasonable chance he signs somewhere with a better QB situation than tampa anyway. Of course, if he goes to the lions/raiders/cincy, all bets are off.Jeff Pasquino said:No offense taken. I have him at 35 because he's 28 and he likely has peaked in value.I probably SHOULD raise him into the late 20s because of his newfound perceived value (and I'd probably look to sell high on him if I had him). That's a reasonable statement. I'll likely readdress his ranking and take a harder look at the 20-40 WR range sometime in the near future.As Borbely stated earlier, he's a tough one to rank. On performance this season and possible WR1 status in Tampa next year he has upside. At 28 and having a checkered NFL past and with Tampa without a long term plan as of now at QB, there's downside.I think a fantasy WR3 is a reasonable assertion.Keep in mind, the WR25-WR40 range is tricky as you're juggling veterans with a little bit of upside vs. younger players that could burst upward into the Top 15 in the next 1-2 years.The view that he is Top 15 seems high to me, but you're entitled to that viewpoint. I just think that there are a few WRs that have higher promise over the next 2-4 seasons.i'd put him around 15. He's a top 10 talent, and that, coupled with production and the fact that he seems to have matured somewhat, makes him a worthwhile gamble. I tend to swing for elite talent at WR and let the rest work itself out except in extreme cases. You're not gonna have a fantasy clubhouse cancer, all you need is for the guy to produce and not do anything stupid enough to keep himself off the field. In Bryant's case, I think he knows he has a good thing going, and i don't think Gruden is going to provoke him ala Parcells--he knows who his best weapon is.No disrespect to Jeff P, he puts out a lot of quality material. But mid 30's is absurd. I'm not an fbg subscriber so I'm looking at F&L's rankings, but there that would put him among guys like Josh Morgan, Torry Holt, Donnie Avery, Chris Chambers. These guys are even in the discussion of being on the same level? I like Avery, the others aren't close. It would put him below Matt Jones, Ted Ginn Jr, Laveranues Coles. You're taking these guys over him?Obviously Pasquino's rankings may have different guys there, but I'd be hard pressed to name 15 WRs i'd take over him in dynolet's seeI'd definitely trade him for1.Fitz2.Megatron3.AJ4.Steve Smith5.Jennings6.Roddy7.Boldin8.Marshall9.ColstonI would waver but still probably pull the trigger10.R. Moss11.Wayne12.BoweAbout 50/5013. VJax14. Eddie Royal15. Welkerwould think about it for a minute but probably not16. TO (the probably not only comes because the dude is gonna turn 36 next season)17. Lee Evans18. Braylonwouldn't even consider anyone else personally. Not moving a possible stud for a definite middling guy. the questions keep him out of the first tier, but talentwise he's a WR1. I'd feel more than happy with him as my WR2 and ecstatic about him as my WR3 (which he is in my money dyno since i got him in the 19th round of our startup last season)Curious where people have Antonio Bryant ranked in Dynasty leagues...I tend to think of him as 15-25 range, just because of his checkered history. Bloom currently has him mid 20'sJeff P. mid 30's F&L late 20's He is a free agent, but the Bucs have tons of caproom, and Gruden said that he wants Bryant back. The #1 WR for Gruden always puts up great stats. He's had a checkered history, and i see that as his only negative. any thoughts?
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