NFC North Predictions (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

Hutch has spoken!!!

Green Bay Packers 10-6

Detroit Lions 9-7

Chicago Bears 8-8

Minnesota Vikings 6-10

Both Green Bay and Detroit go into the week 17 matchup with a record of 9-6. GB wins and they take the division.

Green Bay Packers

1. GB VS. NO WIN

2. GB @ CAR WIN

3. GB @ CHI LOSS

4. GB VS. DEN WIN

5. GB @ ATL LOSS

6. GB VS. STL WIN

7. GB @ MIN WIN

8. BYE WEEK

9. GB @ SD LOSS

10. GB VS. MIN WIN

11. GB VS. TB LOSS

12. GB @ DET LOSS

13. GB @ NYG LOSS

14. GB VS. OAK WIN

15. GB @ KC WIN

16. GB VS. CHI WIN

17. GB VS. DET WIN

Detroit Lions

1. DET @ TB WIN

2. DET VS. KC WIN

3. DET @ MIN LOSS

4. DET @ DAL LOSS

5. DET VS. CHI WIN

6. DET VS. SF WIN

7. DET VS. ATL LOSS

8. DET @ DEN WIN

9. BYE WEEK

10. DET @ CHI LOSS

11. DET VS. CAR WIN

12. DET VS. GB WIN

13. DET @ NO LOSS

14. DET VS. MIN WIN

15. DET @ OAK WIN

16. DET VS. SD LOSS

17. DET @ GB LOSS

Chicago Bears

1. CHI VS. ATL LOSS

2. CHI @ NO LOSS

3. CHI VS. GB WIN

4. CHI VS. CAR WIN

5. CHI @ DET LOSS

6. CHI VS. MIN WIN

7. CHI @ TB LOSS

8. BYE WEEK

9. CHI @ PHI LOSS

10. CHI VS. DET WIN

11. CHI VS. SD LOSS

12. CHI @ OAK WIN

13. CHI VS. KC WIN

14. CHI @ DEN WIN

15. CHI VS. SEA WIN

16. CHI @ GB LOSS

17. CHI @ MIN LOSS

Minnesota Vikings

1. MIN @ SD LOSS

2. MIN VS. TB LOSS

3. MIN VS. DET WIN

4. MIN @ KC LOSS

5. MIN VS. ARI WIN

6. MIN @ CHI LOSS

7. MIN VS. GB LOSS

8. MIN @ CAR WIN

9. BYE WEEK

10. MIN @ GB LOSS

11. MIN VS. OAK WIN

12. MIN @ ATL LOSS

13. MIN VS. DEN WIN

14. MIN @ DET LOSS

15. MIN VS. NO LOSS

16. MIN @ WAS LOSS

17. MIN VS. CHI WIN

 

[Jersey35]

I'll be shocked if Green Bay loses that many games. Yea, I'm a homer. But seriously. The same record as last last season with one of the league's youngest teams and so many starters and key players returning from injury? I don't see it. I like Detroit to challenge for 2nd, but lets not get carried away.

 

[Gamblin'man]

I still can't for the life of me understand why everyone has GB losing at ATL in week 3.

The last time these two teams met was Jan 15th of this year. GB was decimated by injury yet put on an absolute clinic. The final score was 48-21 Pack and it wasn't even that close. Now GB gets back Finley and a few other starters that had been lost to injury. I don't see how this is much of a game.

(other then that, good rankings for the division and I agree the 4 teams will finish in that order)

 

[Jersey35]

I still can't for the life of me understand why everyone has GB losing at ATL in week 3.The last time these two teams met was Jan 15th of this year. GB was decimated by injury yet put on an absolute clinic. The final score was 48-21 Pack and it wasn't even that close. Now GB gets back Finley and a few other starters that had been lost to injury. I don't see how this is much of a game.(other then that, good rankings for the division and I agree the 4 teams will finish in that order)

I can at least accept that someone thinks ATL could win this time around. They're a very good team and playing at home - anything can happen. More baffling is predicting that the Lions travel to Tampa and win, but GB loses to Tampa at home. Doesn't seem like a logical prediction.

 

[sho nuff]

Tampa has given Green Bay problems the last few times they have played. I don't see that continuing this year at home.

And I don't think its crazy to predict Atlanta can win that game...I hope to go to that one so I hope not. They did play in the regular season last year too...and Atl won. I think it will be a great game, but one mistake (like the fumble at the goalline last year) could sink the Packers in Atl.

 

[KCitons]

Your forgetting one key thing. Chicago goes into Detroit week 5 and knock Stafford out of the game. Stafford bounces in and out of the lineup for the next 10 weeks and the Lions are never able to gain the momentum they need to make a playoff push.

 

[sihaokills]

I think Gb will do better... You have every team losing to SD YES!!!

 

[az_prof]

Your forgetting one key thing. Chicago goes into Detroit week 5 and knock Stafford out of the game. Stafford bounces in and out of the lineup for the next 10 weeks and the Lions are never able to gain the momentum they need to make a playoff push.

This is how I see it. Not at all a believer in Stafford's ability to complete a season. Every year Detroit drafts high and so people every year somehow want to predict them to be good. But they almost never are. I'll go with historical production and assume that Detroit is near the bottom of the division again.Packers: 11-5Bears: 10-6Vikings: 7-9Lions: 7-9

 

[scrumptrulescent]

As a Packer fan living in Michigan, I know preseason hope springs eternal for Lions fans. I've got coworkers getting in my face after the draft every year telling me how the Lions are going to be playoff bound, and this year was no different.

Do I think the Lions are turning a corner? Sure. Would I bet on them to end the year over .500? No.

Last year was kind of a fluky season for Chicago imo. They overachieved in the regular season and were exposed in the playoffs. I think this year is different. They're going to be better than fans are giving them credit for. Especially Lions fans.

 

[cr8f]

I'll be shocked if Green Bay loses that many games. Yea, I'm a homer. But seriously. The same record as last last season with one of the league's youngest teams and so many starters and key players returning from injury? I don't see it. I like Detroit to challenge for 2nd, but lets not get carried away.

They killed the Falcons in Atlanta. I agree-too many losses.I don't see the Detroit or Giants loss-they handled the Giants well last year too. 13-3 or12-4 for me .

 

[smackdaddies]

not a terrible prediction. I think the Pack will get 11 wins and detroit stall out at 8, but your prediction isin the realm of reason

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't really see how the Packers return over 10 players from IR and head into Atlanta, a team they absolutely demolished when everything was on the line and lose. People seem to forget that Green Bay was the second or third youngest team in the NFL last season. They are going to pound Atlanta. Atlanta can't stop their passing attack. It is that simple. This really disrupts what Atlanta likes to do which is pound teams with the run. Atlanta will once again go one-dimensional and they simply can't beat Green Bay in a shootout.

 

[drater]

Green Bay will be better than 10-6 unless they suffer an even greater injury toll than last year. That team has one of the best front offices in football and talent all over the field.

Lions just need to learn how to win close games and they'll surpass .500. They got blown out (14+ points) three times in 2010 (NE, Dallas, Minny in week 3), they lost to Giants by 8 in NY, Chicago by 5 (Calvin "no catch" week 1) and 4, every other loss was by 3 points or less (J-E-T-S, Philly, @GB, @BUF). Who knows, maybe they figured it out late in the season, winning their last 4 by less than a TD, 2 on the road, 2 against teams that beat them earlier (Minny, GB). Of course, last year's correlation is not this year's causation but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Would be interested in some feedback on Detroit's 12-3-1 ATS record from someone who both plays FF and bets NFL at an elite level with regards to any historical data for breakout teams.

 

[The Westin]

I understand Green Bay handled Atlanta easily in the playoffs, but let's not forget they also lost to them in the regular season. It's one of the toughest games on their schedule and one easy win last year doesn't mean anything the next. Hell, didn't the Pats destroy the jets by an even larger margin and then go in and lose in the playoffs?

It was one game. Green Bay was clearly the better team that day but these teams are pretty evenly matched. The next one won't be a blowout by any means.

 

[hutchins929]

I still can't for the life of me understand why everyone has GB losing at ATL in week 3.The last time these two teams met was Jan 15th of this year. GB was decimated by injury yet put on an absolute clinic. The final score was 48-21 Pack and it wasn't even that close. Now GB gets back Finley and a few other starters that had been lost to injury. I don't see how this is much of a game.(other then that, good rankings for the division and I agree the 4 teams will finish in that order)

Not that it matters but it's week 5. just in case your really geek'd up for the game and finally when week three gets here you turn on the game only to see Green Bay @ Chicago. Just trying to save you from the WHAT THE HELL, reaction! I know this has been said already but Atlanta did beat Green Bay last year in the regular season.

More baffling is predicting that the Lions travel to Tampa and win, but GB loses to Tampa at home. Doesn't seem like a logical prediction.

Detroit when into Tampa last year and beat the Bucs. Since Tampa moved to the NFC South, in 2001, Green Bay is 1-4 against Them. Also, just to throw this out there, If Detroit didn't beat Tampa last year, the Bucs would have been in the playoffs and the Packers would have been sitting at home watching the Super Bowl!

This is how I see it. Not at all a believer in Stafford's ability to complete a season. Every year Detroit drafts high and so people every year somehow want to predict them to be good. But they almost never are. I'll go with historical production and assume that Detroit is near the bottom of the division again.Packers: 11-5Bears: 10-6Vikings: 7-9Lions: 7-9

Stafford hasn't proven that he can complete a season. But, when he is on the field he looks damn good. However, looking beyond that. The Lions looked pretty good without him towards the end of the season. Yes, the Lions seem to always pick high in the draft because they always seem to finish with a bad record. Let me ask you this though, When was the last time they finished the season on a four game winning streak? I sure as hell can't tell you. And, I've been a Lions fan since I could understand what football was. NFL.com only keeps season schedule results going back 10 seasons. I didn't even need to look but I did anyway. needless to say, the Lions didn't do it in any of those seasons.

They killed the Falcons in Atlanta. I agree-too many losses.I don't see the Detroit or Giants loss-they handled the Giants well last year too. 13-3 or12-4 for me .

Once again Green Bay lost to Atlanta in the regular season and like someone else said earlier in this thread look at the NE vs. NYJ last year. Monday Night Football on December 6th the Patriots destroyed the Jets 45-3. Then a little over a month later on Sunday January 16th the Jets beat the Patriots in the playoffs 28-21. So that just goes to show you that anybody can beat anybody on any given sunday.Also Green Bay lost to these teams last year the Washington Redskins (6-10), the Miami Dolphins (7-9) and the Detroit Lions (6-10). So why is it so hard to think that they might lose to Atlanta who a lot of people think are one of the better teams in the league. All of this is just my opinion and I very well could be wrong. In fact I know I am. There is no way I could be right on all of those games. If I was then I should play the lotto, for real. I just listed how I think it will end up and I thought it would be fun just to predict all the games too.I still think that it will end up...1 Green Bay2 Detroit3 Chicago4 Minnesotawhat will their records be? I have no idea.

 

[sho nuff]

Also Green Bay lost to these teams last year the Washington Redskins (6-10), the Miami Dolphins (7-9) and the Detroit Lions (6-10). So why is it so hard to think that they might lose to Atlanta who a lot of people think are one of the better teams in the league. All of this is just my opinion and I very well could be wrong. In fact I know I am. There is no way I could be right on all of those games. If I was then I should play the lotto, for real. I just listed how I think it will end up and I thought it would be fun just to predict all the games too.

Well, if they lost to them last year...that means they will lose to similar teams this year right?

 

[Donnybrook]

I think Gb will do better... You have every team losing to SD YES!!!

Ageed. SD continues to be overated in most peoples pre-season rankings. SD defense is suspect. GB and Chicago should be favored against them.

 

[hutchins929]

I think Gb will do better... You have every team losing to SD YES!!!

Ageed. SD continues to be overated in most peoples pre-season rankings. SD defense is suspect. GB and Chicago should be favored against them.

OK... GB, and CHI will beat SD! Hutch has said it so shall it be!

 

[saintfool]

I understand Green Bay handled Atlanta easily in the playoffs, but let's not forget they also lost to them in the regular season. It's one of the toughest games on their schedule and one easy win last year doesn't mean anything the next. Hell, didn't the Pats destroy the jets by an even larger margin and then go in and lose in the playoffs?It was one game. Green Bay was clearly the better team that day but these teams are pretty evenly matched. The next one won't be a blowout by any means.

i think it is interesting that some are willing to talk up this Atlanta game while meekly accepting the W1 victory against NO. I'm not saying NO will win but making a case for a GB loss is a helluva lot easier against NO than ATL.

 

[shortbow]

I'll be shocked if Green Bay loses that many games. Yea, I'm a homer. But seriously. The same record as last last season with one of the league's youngest teams and so many starters and key players returning from injury? I don't see it. I like Detroit to challenge for 2nd, but lets not get carried away.

Or ignore that they didnt win their division. I agree that the Lions are gonna be contenders soon, maybe not this year but soon. But everyone pushes the bears out of the way, dumb.

 

[meatwad1]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

They will almost certainly lose DE Cullen Jenkins, who was a key player for the Packers last season, but that's it as far as FA goes.For what its worth, Sportsbook posted some early lines for "key games", and they have the Packers at Falcons lined at a push right now.

 

[hutchins929]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

Let me guess you're a Badger fan too! I'd like to remind you that the Packers were far from the best team in the regular season last year and they made it into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Let me again say if it weren't for the Lions the Packers don't win the Super Bowl last year. Are they the favorites to win the division? absolutely! I even put them as favorites to win the Super Bowl. But, I wouldn't even consider thinking of comparing them to the dynasty that the Patriots were. Even if the Packers won it all next year I wouldn't make that comparison. if they win 2 of the next 3 then we can talk about it. I think that the Packers are set to be a very good team for a few years. But #### happens! You can't take anything for granted. I am a Lions fan so I'm a little biased but I believe the Lions are definitely on the rise and will be very good in a year or two. Competing for the division and beyond. The Bears are getting old and I think that ship has sailed. I could be wrong they might have another year left but I think it's rebuilding time. i'm not even going to talk about the Vikings now cause there's no point since they don't have QB.

 

[hutchins929]

I'll be shocked if Green Bay loses that many games. Yea, I'm a homer. But seriously. The same record as last last season with one of the league's youngest teams and so many starters and key players returning from injury? I don't see it. I like Detroit to challenge for 2nd, but lets not get carried away.

Or ignore that they didnt win their division. I agree that the Lions are gonna be contenders soon, maybe not this year but soon. But everyone pushes the bears out of the way, dumb.

Bears are all going to be using walkers to get around

 

[hutchins929]

i think it is interesting that some are willing to talk up this Atlanta game while meekly accepting the W1 victory against NO. I'm not saying NO will win but making a case for a GB loss is a helluva lot easier against NO than ATL.

New Orleans is a very good team and will contend for the division title.Atlanta is a very good team and will contend for the division title.

Green Bay @ Atlanta

New Orleans @ Green Bay Winning a game on the road against a very good team is a lot harder than winning a game at home against a very good team.

The Packers could win one... They could win both... Then again they could lose both.

 

[Blackjacks]

Packers 12-4

Lions 9-7

Minnesota 7-9

Chicago 5-11

 

[The Westin]

I understand Green Bay handled Atlanta easily in the playoffs, but let's not forget they also lost to them in the regular season. It's one of the toughest games on their schedule and one easy win last year doesn't mean anything the next. Hell, didn't the Pats destroy the jets by an even larger margin and then go in and lose in the playoffs?

It was one game. Green Bay was clearly the better team that day but these teams are pretty evenly matched. The next one won't be a blowout by any means.

i think it is interesting that some are willing to talk up this Atlanta game while meekly accepting the W1 victory against NO. I'm not saying NO will win but making a case for a GB loss is a helluva lot easier against NO than ATL.

I think both games will be difficult and neither are guaranteed wins. In my opinion Green Bay should win both games, but to assume ATL will be a cakewalk simply because of the playoff win is an oversight.ATL is a quality team, and they split with GB last year. My guess is it would be a game that goes down to the wire...at least that is much more likely than another GB blowout

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

Let me guess you're a Badger fan too! I'd like to remind you that the Packers were far from the best team in the regular season last year and they made it into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Let me again say if it weren't for the Lions the Packers don't win the Super Bowl last year. Are they the favorites to win the division? absolutely! I even put them as favorites to win the Super Bowl. But, I wouldn't even consider thinking of comparing them to the dynasty that the Patriots were. Even if the Packers won it all next year I wouldn't make that comparison. if they win 2 of the next 3 then we can talk about it. I think that the Packers are set to be a very good team for a few years. But #### happens! You can't take anything for granted. I am a Lions fan so I'm a little biased but I believe the Lions are definitely on the rise and will be very good in a year or two. Competing for the division and beyond. The Bears are getting old and I think that ship has sailed. I could be wrong they might have another year left but I think it's rebuilding time. i'm not even going to talk about the Vikings now cause there's no point since they don't have QB.

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.You're a Lions fan and like most Lions fans believe the Lions have been a team on the rise for a number of years. And you're either going back on your original predictions or you don't believe them when you say the Lions will be very good in a year or 2, competing for the division and beyond. According to your predictions, you have them competing this year.

 

[hutchins929]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

Let me guess you're a Badger fan too! I'd like to remind you that the Packers were far from the best team in the regular season last year and they made it into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Let me again say if it weren't for the Lions the Packers don't win the Super Bowl last year. Are they the favorites to win the division? absolutely! I even put them as favorites to win the Super Bowl. But, I wouldn't even consider thinking of comparing them to the dynasty that the Patriots were. Even if the Packers won it all next year I wouldn't make that comparison. if they win 2 of the next 3 then we can talk about it. I think that the Packers are set to be a very good team for a few years. But #### happens! You can't take anything for granted. I am a Lions fan so I'm a little biased but I believe the Lions are definitely on the rise and will be very good in a year or two. Competing for the division and beyond. The Bears are getting old and I think that ship has sailed. I could be wrong they might have another year left but I think it's rebuilding time. i'm not even going to talk about the Vikings now cause there's no point since they don't have QB.

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.You're a Lions fan and like most Lions fans believe the Lions have been a team on the rise for a number of years. And you're either going back on your original predictions or you don't believe them when you say the Lions will be very good in a year or 2, competing for the division and beyond. According to your predictions, you have them competing this year.

I am a Lions fan and I've been cautiously optimistic in previous years. However, there is evidence of their getting better. and I am not going back on my original predictions. I believe that they will be in it but will fall short at the end this year. maybe they will get it done though. I do however think that over the next year or two they will be very good. My original prediction was 9-7... Now to me that's good but not very good. I also thought that I made it pretty clear in another post...

I still think that it will end up...

1 Green Bay

2 Detroit

3 Chicago

4 Minnesota

what will their records be? I have no idea.

That doesn't mean I'm going back on my prediction either it just means that I was having fun with it. I put down how I think the teams will finish and I predicted the outcomes of the games as more of a tongue in cheek think.

 

[drater]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

Let me guess you're a Badger fan too! I'd like to remind you that the Packers were far from the best team in the regular season last year and they made it into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Let me again say if it weren't for the Lions the Packers don't win the Super Bowl last year. Are they the favorites to win the division? absolutely! I even put them as favorites to win the Super Bowl. But, I wouldn't even consider thinking of comparing them to the dynasty that the Patriots were. Even if the Packers won it all next year I wouldn't make that comparison. if they win 2 of the next 3 then we can talk about it. I think that the Packers are set to be a very good team for a few years. But #### happens! You can't take anything for granted. I am a Lions fan so I'm a little biased but I believe the Lions are definitely on the rise and will be very good in a year or two. Competing for the division and beyond. The Bears are getting old and I think that ship has sailed. I could be wrong they might have another year left but I think it's rebuilding time. i'm not even going to talk about the Vikings now cause there's no point since they don't have QB.

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.You're a Lions fan and like most Lions fans believe the Lions have been a team on the rise for a number of years. And you're either going back on your original predictions or you don't believe them when you say the Lions will be very good in a year or 2, competing for the division and beyond. According to your predictions, you have them competing this year.

Agree with the bold and I'm a Lions fan. We are a "hope springs eternal" bunch in general, have to be to keep rooting for that team but the statistical and anecdotal evidence is overwhelmingly positive that the Lions are much improved from 2 years ago, leaps and bounds better than that 0-16 squad of infamy. I think we compete for second place with the Bears this year and threaten but don't achieve a wildcard berth before really challenging for the Norris in 2012. Then again, considering we haven't had free agency yet, this like everything tossed around this board is wild conjecture.

 

[saintfool]

i think it is interesting that some are willing to talk up this Atlanta game while meekly accepting the W1 victory against NO. I'm not saying NO will win but making a case for a GB loss is a helluva lot easier against NO than ATL.

New Orleans is a very good team and will contend for the division title.Atlanta is a very good team and will contend for the division title.

Green Bay @ Atlanta

New Orleans @ Green Bay Winning a game on the road against a very good team is a lot harder than winning a game at home against a very good team.

The Packers could win one... They could win both... Then again they could lose both.

i suspect that it is easier to steal a win on the road week one rather than any other game of the season. no team is playing their best after training camp and preseason games. i'm sure there is some statistical information that may validate either premise though.

 

[hutchins929]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

 

[hutchins929]

I honestly think the Packers will lose no less than 4 games and will probably win 14 or 15. Their talent is really starting to crecendo. Based on current/last three year results for total offense/clutch performances;Rodgers is the best qb in football. What he has done this early in his career is nothing short of remarkable. That alone puts the Pack in New England territoryin terms of what they will be doing from here on out from year to year.

Also, many of you are ignorant in regards to their Defense, which is easily top 5 in the league, and very well may be the best. They are strong in all facets, D-Line, LBs, and Dbs.

The rest of these teams will go any way depending on how clutch their qb play is, which depends on injuries/o-line situations etc. I could see any three of those teams winning 11 games or 5 games. They all have a few great star players, but all have big questions at qb.

It goes without saying that people also need to take into account that some teams may gain or lose players in free agancy or trades. For example if the Bears somehow get Steve Smith and couple other players( who would be incredible paired up with Cutler), that would change their team a bit. The Packers are safe to predict because they are losing only fringe/rotation players and probably will not add significant talent.

Let me guess you're a Badger fan too! I'd like to remind you that the Packers were far from the best team in the regular season last year and they made it into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth. Let me again say if it weren't for the Lions the Packers don't win the Super Bowl last year. Are they the favorites to win the division? absolutely! I even put them as favorites to win the Super Bowl. But, I wouldn't even consider thinking of comparing them to the dynasty that the Patriots were. Even if the Packers won it all next year I wouldn't make that comparison. if they win 2 of the next 3 then we can talk about it. I think that the Packers are set to be a very good team for a few years. But #### happens! You can't take anything for granted. I am a Lions fan so I'm a little biased but I believe the Lions are definitely on the rise and will be very good in a year or two. Competing for the division and beyond. The Bears are getting old and I think that ship has sailed. I could be wrong they might have another year left but I think it's rebuilding time. i'm not even going to talk about the Vikings now cause there's no point since they don't have QB.

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.You're a Lions fan and like most Lions fans believe the Lions have been a team on the rise for a number of years. And you're either going back on your original predictions or you don't believe them when you say the Lions will be very good in a year or 2, competing for the division and beyond. According to your predictions, you have them competing this year.

Agree with the bold and I'm a Lions fan. We are a "hope springs eternal" bunch in general, have to be to keep rooting for that team but the statistical and anecdotal evidence is overwhelmingly positive that the Lions are much improved from 2 years ago, leaps and bounds better than that 0-16 squad of infamy. I think we compete for second place with the Bears this year and threaten but don't achieve a wildcard berth before really challenging for the Norris in 2012. Then again, considering we haven't had free agency yet, this like everything tossed around this board is wild conjecture.

 

[sho nuff]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

Rodgers, Tauscher, Barnett, Burnett, Jenkins, Grant, Finley....Listing it just with the guys that were questionable is hilarious.

Look at who hit the IR and missed games.

I doubt Detroit comes close to having the number of Starters miss time that Green Bay had.

Add in losing Woodson and Driver in the Super Bowl and having the depth to overcome that.

 

[pretender]

Is no one taking into account that there were no mini-camps and we haven't even found out if there will be a full training camp! I predict more and more injuried hamstrings and knee issues and all sorts of groin pulls. Nobody knows who will be healthy to start the season - or if they are how long they will stay that way.

In an ideal world I can see GB getting 11 or 12 wins - but....I won't go out on any limb this season!

 

[hutchins929]

Is no one taking into account that there were no mini-camps and we haven't even found out if there will be a full training camp! I predict more and more injuried hamstrings and knee issues and all sorts of groin pulls. Nobody knows who will be healthy to start the season - or if they are how long they will stay that way.In an ideal world I can see GB getting 11 or 12 wins - but....I won't go out on any limb this season!

I agree that injuries will go up this year because of this but it will be an issue for all the teams. So unless a team is extremely unlucky it shouldn't have that much of an effect with W-L... IMO

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

You're grasping for straws. One team overcame to win their final 4 games so their season was 6-10. The other team overcame to the tune of a SB victory.

 

[dhockster]

I won't bash your predictions because they seem reasonable based on what we know now. I think you will be a lot more

accurate however, if you wait until after the free agents have signed to see who ends up where. After all, if Nnamdi signs with either GB or Det, that might effect they ending record, don't ya think?

 

[pretender]

I won't bash your predictions because they seem reasonable based on what we know now. I think you will be a lot moreaccurate however, if you wait until after the free agents have signed to see who ends up where. After all, if Nnamdi signs with either GB or Det, that might effect they ending record, don't ya think?

I doubt GB signs Nnamdi - T Thompson is notorious for not signing free agents. He plays with the guys he has and I think Woodson is good for one more year and they have some good young guys in the nickle that can step it up given the chance. Maybe Detroit???

 

[sho nuff]

Well, you can forget about him signing with GB.

 

[drater]

Doubt he signs in Detroit, our defense has too many needs to commit 19-20 Million to one player. We need at least 2 starting LB and 1 (nickel at least) CB out of FA.

 

[pretender]

Sorry for minor post stealing - but I think he signs with the Eagles - they can use him and they don't mind paying big bucks! Or maybe NE. I would be shocked if he signed for anyone in the NFC.

Back to the NFC preditions thread

 

[sho nuff]

Sorry for minor post stealing - but I think he signs with the Eagles - they can use him and they don't mind paying big bucks! Or maybe NE. I would be shocked if he signed for anyone in the NFC. Back to the NFC preditions thread

Washington is a possibility too. With the new Cap floor, they are pretty far below it now and Snyder always likes to make a big move.

 

[hutchins929]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

You're grasping for straws. One team overcame to win their final 4 games so their season was 6-10. The other team overcame to the tune of a SB victory.

Listen, I'm not saying that the Packers aren't the favorites in the division because they are. Obviously, because I picked them to win it in my original post. I'm just saying that the Lions are a lot closer to competing than you seem to want to give them credit for. They put up with a lot of injuries last year too. Their QB missed most of the season and they still finished 1 game shy of .500. That's all I'm saying. Calm your self man... smoke some of that good #### that the 70's show left behind. HELLO WISCONSIN!

 

[hutchins929]

I won't bash your predictions because they seem reasonable based on what we know now. I think you will be a lot moreaccurate however, if you wait until after the free agents have signed to see who ends up where. After all, if Nnamdi signs with either GB or Det, that might effect they ending record, don't ya think?

Of course things could change after the FA period. This is just where I am predicting the teams to be right now. if a team gets a BIG Free Agent then it will change things a bit and I'll change my predictions a bit too.

 

[hutchins929]

Sorry for minor post stealing - but I think he signs with the Eagles - they can use him and they don't mind paying big bucks! Or maybe NE. I would be shocked if he signed for anyone in the NFC. Back to the NFC preditions thread

Honestly, I don't see him signing in the NFC North either! I'd love to see him in DET but I agree they need to go after a few good players rather than one big fish!

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

You're grasping for straws. One team overcame to win their final 4 games so their season was 6-10. The other team overcame to the tune of a SB victory.

Listen, I'm not saying that the Packers aren't the favorites in the division because they are. Obviously, because I picked them to win it in my original post. I'm just saying that the Lions are a lot closer to competing than you seem to want to give them credit for. They put up with a lot of injuries last year too. Their QB missed most of the season and they still finished 1 game shy of .500. That's all I'm saying. Calm your self man... smoke some of that good #### that the 70's show left behind. HELLO WISCONSIN!

Like I stated before, I live in Michigan and am surrounded by Lions fans. I'd say about 95% of my friends are Lions fans. And because of that I guess I get a little burnt out on how they get all puffed up in the preseason (draft, FA, etc.). If you were surrounded by Packer fans you'd probably get sick of them too.I give the Lions plenty of credit. I think they're turning the corner but I've thought that in the past as well. I'm not a hater and there are thousands of loyal Lions fans that deserve success since they've put up with years of Ford stupidity. I'd be fine with the Lions coming in 2nd place for the division, but also have watched enough years of futility in Detroit to know I'll believe it when I see it, and not a second before.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

You're grasping for straws. One team overcame to win their final 4 games so their season was 6-10. The other team overcame to the tune of a SB victory.

Listen, I'm not saying that the Packers aren't the favorites in the division because they are. Obviously, because I picked them to win it in my original post. I'm just saying that the Lions are a lot closer to competing than you seem to want to give them credit for. They put up with a lot of injuries last year too. Their QB missed most of the season and they still finished 1 game shy of .500. That's all I'm saying. Calm your self man... smoke some of that good #### that the 70's show left behind. HELLO WISCONSIN!

I agree that the Lions played well given the injury situation.I honestly believe most are overstating the Packers injuries. Who really got injured? Ryan Grant 1,200 yards...okay. Finley who is just potential still at this point...Barnett an ILB that was fighting for a job in a 3 way battle with Bishop anyway. Brad Jones, Morgan Burnett spare me...

Backups sure they matter but Rodgers played all but 1 game. The WR core was relatively healthy(Driver was hampered but he isn't a stud anymore). The OL was intact the whole season. Clay Mathews, BJ Raji, Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Tramon Williams all played the majority of the season.

So the core the Packers team played the whole year, yet everyone wrote excuses for them.

The Lions are playing with Drew Stanton as QB and they are the same ole Lions.

 

[sho nuff]

I agree that the Lions played well given the injury situation.I honestly believe most are overstating the Packers injuries. Who really got injured? Ryan Grant 1,200 yards...okay. Finley who is just potential still at this point...Barnett an ILB that was fighting for a job in a 3 way battle with Bishop anyway. Brad Jones, Morgan Burnett spare me...Backups sure they matter but Rodgers played all but 1 game. The WR core was relatively healthy(Driver was hampered but he isn't a stud anymore). The OL was intact the whole season. Clay Mathews, BJ Raji, Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Tramon Williams all played the majority of the season.So the core the Packers team played the whole year, yet everyone wrote excuses for them.The Lions are playing with Drew Stanton as QB and they are the same ole Lions.

Grant, a 1200 yard rusher who did well in that system.Finley, a guy they were basically running the offense around.Mark Tauscher starting RT.Nick Barnett starting MLB...you show your ignorance when you claim he was fighting for a job here.Morgan Burnett starting safetyIn addition, they then lose other guys as some stepped in for them.There was nothing overstating what happened last year.Then lost Woodson and Driver during the Super Bowl and still won the thing.So spare me your spin on what really happened.

 

[hutchins929]

Far from the best during the regular season and barely making the playoffs is due to a massive amount of injuries. But now because of last year they are probably the deepest team in the NFC with so many guys having big game experience.

Green Bay Injuries Weekly List 2010Looking at players that were on the Packers team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 77.

Detroit Injuries Weekly List 2010

Looking at players that were on the Lions team that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out in 2010 over the 17 week regular season totaled 92.

Looking at the Lions list you see a lot of Stafford, Best, Calvin... Best and Calvin played a lot but it's obvious that they weren't 100%

So the Lions were affected by injury more so than the Packers were. They might not have had as many players that were out. But they had just as many actually more that were playing hurt. So what does that say? Yet they were 1-1 against the packers. In fact in the game where the Lions beat the Packers, DET actually had more players that were listed as questionable, doubtful or out than GB did.

You're grasping for straws. One team overcame to win their final 4 games so their season was 6-10. The other team overcame to the tune of a SB victory.

Listen, I'm not saying that the Packers aren't the favorites in the division because they are. Obviously, because I picked them to win it in my original post. I'm just saying that the Lions are a lot closer to competing than you seem to want to give them credit for. They put up with a lot of injuries last year too. Their QB missed most of the season and they still finished 1 game shy of .500. That's all I'm saying. Calm your self man... smoke some of that good #### that the 70's show left behind. HELLO WISCONSIN!

Like I stated before, I live in Michigan and am surrounded by Lions fans. I'd say about 95% of my friends are Lions fans. And because of that I guess I get a little burnt out on how they get all puffed up in the preseason (draft, FA, etc.). If you were surrounded by Packer fans you'd probably get sick of them too.I give the Lions plenty of credit. I think they're turning the corner but I've thought that in the past as well. I'm not a hater and there are thousands of loyal Lions fans that deserve success since they've put up with years of Ford stupidity. I'd be fine with the Lions coming in 2nd place for the division, but also have watched enough years of futility in Detroit to know I'll believe it when I see it, and not a second before.

Well, living in Michigan surrounded by Lions fans you should know that the NFL Draft has been the biggest couple of days of the year for Lions fans, for years now. You would have to expect that we'd get excited at that time. Every fan should have hope that their team will get better! Sure a lot of people got carried away. This year is a little different, there are definite reasons to get excited and not just hope that the guy they picked in the top 5 will boost the team out of the gutter. The news is that Matthew Stafford is in "Phenomenal Shape". The Lions have the second longest winning steak in the NFL. They finished pretty damn good. In week 14, they beat the Packers who would later go on to win the championship. In week 15, they officially knocked out the Buccaneers from the playoffs. In week 16, they beat the Miami Dolphins. Then in week 17, they beat the Minnesota Vikings. So it's not like this is all baseless Optimism.