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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
There are no top teams in the NFC, much to my dismay.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
NFC's Playoff team and ranked in order:
Chicago
Philly
NO
Dallas
STL
Car
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On the cusp
SF
Sea
Man the NFC North Sux0rs
Chicago
Philly
NO
Dallas
STL
Car
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On the cusp
SF
Sea
Man the NFC North Sux0rs
Not a bad list, however I see Seattle sliding a bit and Dallas becoming a weekly highlight reel.
Dallas - Romo proved himself last year, I don't think it was a fluke
New Orleans - If I'm a Dallas fan, I'm stilled mad about Peyton not being my HC. Bush will be the early MVP favorite.
Chicago - still the best in the North, but someone is going to give them a run for their money
San Francisco - Smith's breakout year. 49er fans' wait is over
Seattle - More consistant offense in '07, but the D will let teams stay in games
Philly - they find a way to get to the playoffs, but they still can't stop the run
St. Louis - any one of the 3 in the West could be 11-5 or 7-9.
Carolina - it looks like a year long QB controversy, can they handle it?
Green Bay - if they are above .500 at the bye they'll make the playoffs
New York Giants - a team that can beat up on the best then lose to the worst. If they can find some consistancy they could be very good.
Wild Card - Arizona - with the 3 others beating up on each other they could slide into first place and the playoffs.
Dallas - Romo proved himself last year, I don't think it was a fluke
New Orleans - If I'm a Dallas fan, I'm stilled mad about Peyton not being my HC. Bush will be the early MVP favorite.
Chicago - still the best in the North, but someone is going to give them a run for their money
San Francisco - Smith's breakout year. 49er fans' wait is over
Seattle - More consistant offense in '07, but the D will let teams stay in games
Philly - they find a way to get to the playoffs, but they still can't stop the run
St. Louis - any one of the 3 in the West could be 11-5 or 7-9.
Carolina - it looks like a year long QB controversy, can they handle it?
Green Bay - if they are above .500 at the bye they'll make the playoffs
New York Giants - a team that can beat up on the best then lose to the worst. If they can find some consistancy they could be very good.
Wild Card - Arizona - with the 3 others beating up on each other they could slide into first place and the playoffs.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I see Chicago, NO and Philly as the class of the NFC. Following closely behind is Dallas. After that I lump SF, NYG and Seattle in the third tier. Carolina could reach that third tier, but they have a lot of crap to sort through.
redman
Footballguy
I'm just wondering, why is everyone assuming that Wade Phillips will be able to do what Parcells could not with largely the same team, namely to get them over the hump as a competitive team with a serious Super Bowl run in them?
Even ignoring that the coaching change itself may work against the Cowboys this year, what does Phillips bring to the table that suddenly becomes The Answer?
Even ignoring that the coaching change itself may work against the Cowboys this year, what does Phillips bring to the table that suddenly becomes The Answer?
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Dallas has a lot of talent. I hate them with a passion, but even an idiot can pilot that team to the playoffs in the NFC.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Agree, except for the hate part. A Deranged Hermit could coach them to the playoffs.Deranged Hermit said:
redman
Footballguy
What's odd to me, though, was this team's collapses late in the season under Parcells. From week 14 onward (including playoffs) the Cowboys were 6-12 from 2003-2006. Again, I'm not bashing them - I agree they're talented. I'm just wondering why people 1) don't figure a transition period will affect them with Parcells' departure, and 2) assume that Phillips will be able to go beyond what Parcells was able to do with this team.
oddball
Smart
Phillips brings a much more complex 3-4. Parcells always ran a very vanilla 3-4 and could not get a QB rush from it. Phillips is a teaching coach, and will bring that defense to the top of the league. Tony Romo now has several games of experience under his belt, and fared rather well doing it. An improved Oline and all skill players returning, I'm hoping for a slight improvement. Not bad considering their offensive rank near the end of the season.redman said:
No disrespect...no disrespect to Parcells but...Phillips will make better use of the defensive talent available, which is speaking specifically to Williams and Ware. At a certain point I just think Parcells was too tight with how he let the defense play. Phillips is going to find a way and or ways to maximize what Ware and Williams can do, while minimizing what Williams can't. I am not sure what to make of the offense but I feel confident in stating that the defense will be improved. The change of leadership in this instance might be healthy. That is just my opinion but I can see players being a little bit happier to be around Valley Ranch this spring, summer and fall.redman said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Division Winners (ranked in order of strength)
Philly - It all hinges on McNabb. I don't believe the Cowboys are going to win with Tony Romo.
Chicago - There's nobody to challenge them in the division this year either. Although, Detroit really is putting together some nice pieces.
New Orleans - The offense could be even better this year and they've added some nice FA's to the defense.
St. Louis - Call it a hunch, but I think the Rams could be this year's surprise team. The West is very competitive.
Wild Cards
Dallas - Enough talent to sqeak into the playoffs. But will experience a quick exit again.
Atlanta - Shored up the defense through the draft and I think Petrino will make them better.
Philly - It all hinges on McNabb. I don't believe the Cowboys are going to win with Tony Romo.
Chicago - There's nobody to challenge them in the division this year either. Although, Detroit really is putting together some nice pieces.
New Orleans - The offense could be even better this year and they've added some nice FA's to the defense.
St. Louis - Call it a hunch, but I think the Rams could be this year's surprise team. The West is very competitive.
Wild Cards
Dallas - Enough talent to sqeak into the playoffs. But will experience a quick exit again.
Atlanta - Shored up the defense through the draft and I think Petrino will make them better.
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hacman
Footballguy
Lots of people high on the Niners, which I don't see yet. They are on the right track, but there are still questions about the offense- Turner is gone, Smith is not an effective game manager yet, Vernon Davis is not a stud yet. The defense still has to learn to play together in a new system with a lot of new pieces to integrate. I expect the range of wins to be 7-9 and it could be worse with injuries. It could be better, but it would be foolish to bet it on it.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Might as well go out on a limb.Agree on dropping Carolina but also Chicago. New defensive coach and to much turmoil in Chicago. Your not in good hands with Benson & Grossman. Also, teams that lose the Superbowl have a history of struggling. Seattle is a big question mark - can the offensive line get it back together?
New Orleans - Top Offense
Philidelphia - Patriots of NFC
Dallas - Norv will light up the offense
Arizona - They are going to run the ball down a lot of throats. Better get James before I do.
Green Bay - Big run defense improvement, offensive line improvement, and WR with Robinson. Barring key injury they could take the division back.
redman
Footballguy
Wow! Norval sure is gonna be busy!
Rig24
Footballguy
Actually they are brothers.I'm not sure how he got Norv Turner and Jason Garrett confused...I also just saw a John Garrett as the TE coach. I wonder if they're related?redman said:Wow! Norval sure is gonna be busy!Billy1x said:
thread should have ended here.crimsonrebel
Footballguy
I think some people who are high on SF are going to be mighty dissappointed with their draft midseason, except for maybe Gore owners. Heres my rankings;
1 NO improved both offense and defense
2 Chi improved, but offense still suspect, & will struggle from behind
3 Dal boatloads of talent, but will not live up to their potential late season
4 wide open
1 NO improved both offense and defense
2 Chi improved, but offense still suspect, & will struggle from behind
3 Dal boatloads of talent, but will not live up to their potential late season
4 wide open
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Before the off-season began, I had these 4 teams as the most likeliest to make the SB from the NFC - Bears, Eagles, Seahawks, Saints.
Eagles: Did not get any players in the draft that will really help them THIS year.
Seahawks: Lost their best WR. Kerney instead of Wistrom is not really an upgrade (Kerney's #s are average at best). They did not really upgrade anything in the draft (without a #1 pick) that will really help them this year. You think their O will sputter some more counting on Branch to stay healthy and actually produce like he is paid?
Saints: Did not do anything to improve their secondary, which was brutal last year.
Bears: Lost Thomas Jones and have to deal with the Briggs issue. I do not see the TJ issue as being that great since Benson really came on in the 2nd half of last year. If Briggs plays the whole year, I see the Bears easily getting into the SB if Tommie Harris comes back. Olsen will actually help them this year, especially down the line. They still play in an easy division with the Vikings having no O againt this year (who will be their starting QB? Tavaris Jackson?), Lions having absolutely no D and Packers having done nothing to improve this off season. This will help the Bears get the HFA, which is huge with the winters in Chi and Chi's ability to run and play D at home.
Eagles: Did not get any players in the draft that will really help them THIS year.
Seahawks: Lost their best WR. Kerney instead of Wistrom is not really an upgrade (Kerney's #s are average at best). They did not really upgrade anything in the draft (without a #1 pick) that will really help them this year. You think their O will sputter some more counting on Branch to stay healthy and actually produce like he is paid?
Saints: Did not do anything to improve their secondary, which was brutal last year.
Bears: Lost Thomas Jones and have to deal with the Briggs issue. I do not see the TJ issue as being that great since Benson really came on in the 2nd half of last year. If Briggs plays the whole year, I see the Bears easily getting into the SB if Tommie Harris comes back. Olsen will actually help them this year, especially down the line. They still play in an easy division with the Vikings having no O againt this year (who will be their starting QB? Tavaris Jackson?), Lions having absolutely no D and Packers having done nothing to improve this off season. This will help the Bears get the HFA, which is huge with the winters in Chi and Chi's ability to run and play D at home.
Sidewinder
Footballguy
I would disagree with that assessment:Jason David
Kevin Kaesviharn
And overall defensively, they also signed Brian Simmons (an upgrade over Simoneau at MLB), plus resigned three starters (Grant, Thomas and Shanle), without losing anyone to FA.
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