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NFL at it again, new bag policy (1 Viewer)

Also, not that I am trying to imply anything here, just a simple question to ask people....................what on earth do you bring in a backpack to a football game?? I mean, what items do you need to bring that have to be placed inside of a backpack for a 3 hour game?? Is this even an actual issue?? Or are people jsut complaining because of some perceived "rights" being violated?? Just wondering.
What NFL games do you attend that you are only there for 3 hours??

I like to bring things like: Cell phone, small battery/power source to recharge cell phone, a basic first aid kit, plenty of water for warmer games, layers of clothing for cooler or colder games or games that might have precipitation (for either that could be shirts, jackets, rain stuff, hats, gloves, hand warmers, etc), my spare eyeglasses, a spare pair of contacts/solution/eyedrops (would hate to spend all that money and then not be able to see), sunglasses, and other personal items.

My pockets are not sufficient for all of these things, and I generally love backpacks because they don't require the use of hands.

Now, I haven't personally brought a backpack to a game, but if allowed to I just might. I have brought/do bring an over the shoulder bag by Maxpedition that some might all a man purse to hold a few of those smaller items (no clothing), and that seems to be prohibited under this policy.

One more reason I won't go to any games anytime soon

 
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Also, not that I am trying to imply anything here, just a simple question to ask people....................what on earth do you bring in a backpack to a football game?? I mean, what items do you need to bring that have to be placed inside of a backpack for a 3 hour game?? Is this even an actual issue?? Or are people jsut complaining because of some perceived "rights" being violated?? Just wondering.
What NFL games do you attend that you are only there for 3 hours??

I like to bring things like: Cell phone, small battery/power source to recharge cell phone, a basic first aid kit, plenty of water for warmer games, layers of clothing for cooler or colder games or games that might have precipitation (for either that could be shirts, jackets, rain stuff, hats, gloves, hand warmers, etc), my spare eyeglasses, a spare pair of contacts/solution/eyedrops (would hate to spend all that money and then not be able to see), sunglasses, and other personal items.

My pockets are not sufficient for all of these things, and I generally love backpacks because they don't require the use of hands.

Now, I haven't personally brought a backpack to a game, but if allowed to I just might. I have brought/do bring an over the shoulder bag by Maxpedition that some might all a man purse to hold a few of those smaller items (no clothing), and that seems to be prohibited under this policy.

One more reason I won't go to any games anytime soon
I would laugh my ### off if I saw someone with all that at a dang football game. My god. Cell phone chargers?? 1st aid kits?? Water???(That you arent allowed to bring in anyway right??) The extra clothes just wear into the game, and take em off if you dont need them and put them on your seat. Not real hard.

This is a 3-4 hour event, not the apocalypse.

 
As a long time season ticket holder, this rule doesn't bother me at all. We tail gate and never bring stuff into the game. No skin of my back, and if it increases the speed with which we can get into the stadium, I'm all for it.. :thumbup:
You're apathetic
He is "all for it". Your definition of apathetic is a bit off.
Eight-year-olds, Dude.

He is apathetic about what this means--the audacity of being able #### over liberty-- to the country and the direction we continue to head in but hey, maybe he will get inside faster.

 
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I would laugh my ### off if I saw someone with all that at a dang football game. My god. Cell phone chargers?? 1st aid kits?? Water???(That you arent allowed to bring in anyway right??) The extra clothes just wear into the game, and take em off if you dont need them and put them on your seat. Not real hard.

This is a 3-4 hour event, not the apocalypse.
Oh my God holy **** I might want to bring water to an hours long outdoor event in hot weather. How freaking crazy is that?!

 
I would laugh my ### off if I saw someone with all that at a dang football game. My god. Cell phone chargers?? 1st aid kits?? Water???(That you arent allowed to bring in anyway right??) The extra clothes just wear into the game, and take em off if you dont need them and put them on your seat. Not real hard.

This is a 3-4 hour event, not the apocalypse.
Oh my God holy **** I might want to bring water to an hours long outdoor event in hot weather. How freaking crazy is that?!
Are you even allowed to bring in your own water though? I thought bringing in outside food and beverage was not allowed. Call me crazy.

 
As a long time season ticket holder, this rule doesn't bother me at all. We tail gate and never bring stuff into the game. No skin of my back, and if it increases the speed with which we can get into the stadium, I'm all for it.. :thumbup:
You're apathetic
He is "all for it". Your definition of apathetic is a bit off.
Eight-year-olds, Dude.

He is apathetic about what this means--the audacity of being able #### over liberty-- to the country and the direction we continue to head in but hey, maybe he will get inside faster.
If he is apathetic, it is because this has nothing to do with any kind of liberty being taken away, and people simply belly aching because it will be hard to continue to sneak stuff in that they aren't allowed to have.

First it's being told what you can take into THEIR building, next it's what, slavery???

It would probably be more accurate to call the driving laws you have to follow on the way to the game more of a liberty issue than this issue.

 
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Leonidas said:
ghostguy123 said:
Also, not that I am trying to imply anything here, just a simple question to ask people....................what on earth do you bring in a backpack to a football game?? I mean, what items do you need to bring that have to be placed inside of a backpack for a 3 hour game?? Is this even an actual issue?? Or are people jsut complaining because of some perceived "rights" being violated?? Just wondering.
What NFL games do you attend that you are only there for 3 hours??

I like to bring things like: Cell phone, small battery/power source to recharge cell phone, a basic first aid kit, plenty of water for warmer games, layers of clothing for cooler or colder games or games that might have precipitation (for either that could be shirts, jackets, rain stuff, hats, gloves, hand warmers, etc), my spare eyeglasses, a spare pair of contacts/solution/eyedrops (would hate to spend all that money and then not be able to see), sunglasses, and other personal items.

My pockets are not sufficient for all of these things, and I generally love backpacks because they don't require the use of hands.

Now, I haven't personally brought a backpack to a game, but if allowed to I just might. I have brought/do bring an over the shoulder bag by Maxpedition that some might all a man purse to hold a few of those smaller items (no clothing), and that seems to be prohibited under this policy.

One more reason I won't go to any games anytime soon
lol

 
Why do you need to bring anything to a game? I have gone to hundreds of sporting events and never once brought a bag of any kind.

Bring what you need to tailgate, leave it in the car for the game. If you fatties can't sit for 3 hours in a hard chair without bringing your Snuggie, hot pockets, and a seat cushion, you have larger life choices to worry about than this policy.

 
Why do you need to bring anything to a game? I have gone to hundreds of sporting events and never once brought a bag of any kind.

Bring what you need to tailgate, leave it in the car for the game. If you fatties can't sit for 3 hours in a hard chair without bringing your Snuggie, hot pockets, and a seat cushion, you have larger life choices to worry about than this policy.
If you're seeing a game at Lambeau, especially in the colder months, a seat cushion is nice. Most of their seating is bleacher seats. Obviously it won't affect attendance there. It'll be interesting to see if the cushions they rent will go up in price.

I know it's the macho, manly thing to say you don't need any extra comforts, but I'd rather be comfortable if given the choice.

 
If a terrorist decides to stuff a bomb inside his butt and manages to detonate it inside a stadium, will they start making people take a #### in a bucket before entering the stadiums?

 
Why do you need to bring anything to a game? I have gone to hundreds of sporting events and never once brought a bag of any kind.

Bring what you need to tailgate, leave it in the car for the game. If you fatties can't sit for 3 hours in a hard chair without bringing your Snuggie, hot pockets, and a seat cushion, you have larger life choices to worry about than this policy.
If you're seeing a game at Lambeau, especially in the colder months, a seat cushion is nice. Most of their seating is bleacher seats. Obviously it won't affect attendance there. It'll be interesting to see if the cushions they rent will go up in price.

I know it's the macho, manly thing to say you don't need any extra comforts, but I'd rather be comfortable if given the choice.
Yeah sitting on a metal bench in December at Lambeau, without a seat cushion, makes for a long game. The backpack thing I understand...the seat cushions not so much.

 
My problem with this whole banning of items, is that, you can achieve the safety you desire without banning all those items. And, I am not a guy who brings, or sneaks stuff in with me. Just my keys and my phone.

just designate specific gates as extra screening. ABC Stadium has 20 entry gates. 4 of those gates will be designated as "full search" gates, ie, Fanny packs, seat cushions, purses, etc. enter through those gates....

That way, if you want to bring extra stuff in, you can, but you need to allot some extra time to go through screening.

The NFL says they want the game safer, will they still have the same amount staffed at each game to assist people? i doubt it. Lines will move quicker, you probably need less security, less ushers, etc..

It's not an easy call here-I understand that, but I think this was poorly thought through. Heck, you can use your keys as a weapon. Put a bomb in your wireless remote if you really wanted to achieve destruction.

I know it's a sign of the times, and that's a shame. And the NFL is clearly capitalizing on the precautions they have put in place.

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Thunderlips said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Thunderlips said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
ratbast said:
They are also making money off of their televised events as well so if you are protesting you cant actually watch. Just like if you opposed cellphones but your land line was Verizon, heck that wasn't very smart, was it?
Not really a direct correlation. The NFL makes a lot more from you taking your family to the game than they do from you watching on broadcast TV or even the Ticket.
Heh?

http://football.calsci.com/SalaryCap.html
Not sure what your point is.
The point is is that 2/3 of the revenue comes from TV...not from the gate. The NFL might be the only sport in the world where it could be played in an empty stadium and still be as financially successful.
if fans stopped going, the owners would be hurting big time. I thought only the TV Revs are shared and the Stadium gate is individualized?

 
We are giving over more and more control of the operation of the country to corporations. By our laws, those corporations are not bound to provide constitutional rights, so every time we sign a contract (and purchasing a ticket is signing a contract) we are handing over some of our liberty.
I can't think of any liberty interest you're giving up by buying a ticket to a football game.

Yeah, you're not allowed to bring your purse into the stadium if you buy a ticket; but neither are you allowed to bring your purse into the stadium if you don't buy a ticket. Buying a ticket doesn't place any restrictions on your liberties that weren't already there.

 
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Yes! We must protect our freedoms -- such as the freedom to set the terms on which we will allow others onto our own private property, and the freedom to exclude trespassers who would violate those terms.

 
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Yes! We must protect our freedoms -- such as the freedom to set the terms on which we will allow others onto our own private property, and the freedom to exclude trespassers who would violate those terms.
Right on. People here seem to be more worried about their own personal freedoms and liberties, while completely disregarding the freedom and liberty of others.

If you come to my house, you follow MY rules, or get the F out. This is no different.

Quoting Franklin there is so misleading and misguided it is a wonder how some of you haven't fallen victim to a Darwin Award yet.

I guess first off, and this is VERY obvious, but in Franklin's quote there he said "essential liberty".............restrictions on how you enter someones private property, in this case a sporting event, is about as far from ESSENTIAL as it gets.

Also, the idea if liberty is not simply to be able to do whatever the F you want to do. If that was the case, people would be constantly doing things that infringe upon the liberty of others. Very simple concept that the narrow minded can not grasp.......well, that and this is nothing more than the NFL putting some restrictions on entering their property, which has NOTHING to do with liberty by any definition of any kind.

 
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Yes! We must protect our freedoms -- such as the freedom to set the terms on which we will allow others onto our own private property, and the freedom to exclude trespassers who would violate those terms.
Right on. People here seem to be more worried about their own personal freedoms and liberties, while completely disregarding the freedom and liberty of others.

If you come to my house, you follow MY rules, or get the F out. This is no different.
It's quite a bit different. First, we're not talking about a private house, we're talking about a public sporting event venue. In many cases the stadium is owned by the city, making it public property, leased to the team. Even when the stadiums are privately owned, they were funded largely with public money and are usually built on public land. Second, the team is holding an event which is open to the public, and that places additional limits on what restrictions the team is allowed to place on ticket holders.

 
CalBear said:
ghostguy123 said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Yes! We must protect our freedoms -- such as the freedom to set the terms on which we will allow others onto our own private property, and the freedom to exclude trespassers who would violate those terms.
Right on. People here seem to be more worried about their own personal freedoms and liberties, while completely disregarding the freedom and liberty of others.

If you come to my house, you follow MY rules, or get the F out. This is no different.
It's quite a bit different. First, we're not talking about a private house, we're talking about a public sporting event venue. In many cases the stadium is owned by the city, making it public property, leased to the team. Even when the stadiums are privately owned, they were funded largely with public money and are usually built on public land. Second, the team is holding an event which is open to the public, and that places additional limits on what restrictions the team is allowed to place on ticket holders.
Unfortunately, this is not a limit that should be restricted. It might be a minor inconvenience for some people, but sorry, your f'ing freedoms and liberties are not being affected here........and if you think they are, then wow, what 10 million other liberty issues do you feel like complaining about next???? Do you want to complain about not being able to use flash photography in museums??? Do you want to complain about the security process in airports and all their restrictions???

 
CalBear said:
ghostguy123 said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Yes! We must protect our freedoms -- such as the freedom to set the terms on which we will allow others onto our own private property, and the freedom to exclude trespassers who would violate those terms.
Right on. People here seem to be more worried about their own personal freedoms and liberties, while completely disregarding the freedom and liberty of others.

If you come to my house, you follow MY rules, or get the F out. This is no different.
It's quite a bit different. First, we're not talking about a private house, we're talking about a public sporting event venue. In many cases the stadium is owned by the city, making it public property, leased to the team. Even when the stadiums are privately owned, they were funded largely with public money and are usually built on public land. Second, the team is holding an event which is open to the public, and that places additional limits on what restrictions the team is allowed to place on ticket holders.
Unfortunately, this is not a limit that should be restricted. It might be a minor inconvenience for some people, but sorry, your f'ing freedoms and liberties are not being affected here........and if you think they are, then wow, what 10 million other liberty issues do you feel like complaining about next???? Do you want to complain about not being able to use flash photography in museums??? Do you want to complain about the security process in airports and all their restrictions???
Using more question marks does not make your argument stronger.

And yes, I absolutely want to complain about the security theater in airports.

 
Using more question marks does not make your argument stronger.

And yes, I absolutely want to complain about the security theater in airports.
Well, some people just like to complain then I guess. At least complain for the right reasons though. Complain cause it is annoying and a hassle, not because it is violating your rights and liberties...........because it isn't.

 
No camera bags? I have a small one I take, I wonder if they will get me for the extra batteries I have to shove in my pockets.

 

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