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NFL Combine Live on NFL.com (1 Viewer)

Coverage is just sick. The set is amazing that they are broadcasting from, the slo motion cam on the drills is intense. I wish they wouldn't tell us how great it is but still they have the right to brag about this.

There is something about watching the coaches working with these athletes because they haven't signed a contract yet, they aren't millionaires yet, and they still seem to take direction very well and the coaches just have smiles form ear to ear, its pretty amazing watching some of this.

 
Bruce Campbell ran a 4.78 and the avg speed last year was 5.3 for the Tackle position. Mayock equating it to Chirs Johnson 2 years ago...not sure the need for superfast Tackles. I guess he is unlikely to have a DE fly by him but I still am not sure the need for 40 speed.

 
Bruce Campbell ran a 4.78 and the avg speed last year was 5.3 for the Tackle position. Mayock equating it to Chirs Johnson 2 years ago...not sure the need for superfast Tackles. I guess he is unlikely to have a DE fly by him but I still am not sure the need for 40 speed.
1.68 10 yard split. Awesome... Yeah, not much of a need for OT speed like that, but it's fun watching how athletic some of these big guys are.
 
Bruce Campbell ran a 4.78 and the avg speed last year was 5.3 for the Tackle position. Mayock equating it to Chirs Johnson 2 years ago...not sure the need for superfast Tackles. I guess he is unlikely to have a DE fly by him but I still am not sure the need for 40 speed.
was hoping he would fall to the Cowboys, but that time will probably increase his stock to be picked much earlier.
 
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Jimmy Graham just smoked the gauntlet

McCoy struggld. Pitta looked good.

 
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Anyone have a good handle on which players had their stock rise or fall greatly from the combine the last few years as a measure of how they have translated to the NFL? Guys I think I recall are Mario Manningham and Mike Hart both having their stock drop after unspectacular combine results for example. I'm just trying to determine if poor results are generally warning flags or buy low opportunities.

 
Recent Risers:

Joe Flacco

Jay Cutler

Vernon Gholston

Vontae Davis

Chris Johnson

Tashard Choice

Felix Jones

Robert Ayers

Darrius Heyward-Bey

Greg Olsen

Anthony Gonzalez

Percy Harvin

Chad Jackson

Chris Henry (RB)

Vernon Davis

Fallers:

Malcolm Jenkins

Maurice Clarett

Malcolm Kelly

Andre Smith

Zach Miller (Oak)

Tyrone Moss

Ian Johnson

Brady Quinn

Brian Brohm

John Carlson

Fred Davis

 
Jimmy Graham really stood out to me today. For a player with limited receiving experience, he's got some serious mitts and knows how to catch and turn

Still a WIP to learn the nuances of the game, but he's a commodity that's not going to fall very far on Day 2. Round 3 to the Jags. :thumbup:

Jermaine Gresham still not 100% as evidenced by today. Still a huge player and a 1st rounder, but might have lost an opportunity to make some money today.

 
Dorin Dickerson was a standout, 4.40 forty and 43 in vert

His problem is he is only 6'1ish and 225 pounds, maybe a team turns him into a wr/te type guy.

 
NFL.com coverage is fantastic. NFL network's coverage sucks donkey balls.

Dexter McCluster with 20 reps at the bench.

Time for some gauntlet for group 4 WO.

Ajirotutu :popcorn: 5 plucks in a row no drops.

Jacoby Ford. smokes it 1st run.

Gilyard same.

Donald Jones caught against body.

2nd run

Ajirotutu drops one thrown behind his back, caught the other behind him.

There are some horrid throws these guys are hauling in.

Benn let some get to his body.

Boateng. nice!!!

Briscoe all hands.

Some guy named Brown caught them all an they were some bad passes.

Cooper caught them all

Jacoby Ford. flawless and ridiculous.

Gilyard dropped the last one. bad pass

NFL Network showing commercials. Lots of action going on now. NFL network showing tebow stretch. LOSERS.

 
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A report from someone on NFL Draft Countdown:

Ford was weaving a bit but, great gauntlet drill.

Gilyard wasnt going full speed but, beautiful hands.

A lot of footballs were hitting Benn in the belly.

Boteng, Brown, Cooper, Gettis were real solid in the second run.

Beautiful runs by Easley and Hodge.

Donald Jones lets them get in on his body here and there but, I like what I see for the most part.

Holliday ran a good second run through in the gauntlet.

 
2 more hours until the RBs run. Any surprise guesses of guys who run slower/faster than expected?

 
Kleck said:
Jahvid Best - 5'10 1/8" 199C.J. Spiller - 5'10 5/8" 196
I like the fact that both of these guys came in at least around 200 lbs. There is NOT a concern for me about size, and both guys can probably pack on about 5-10 more lbs within the next 12-18 mos. easily. I expect both to run 4.35 or better in the 40, solidifying Top 40 draft status. And lastly, I wouldn't annoint Spiller as the undisputed #1 RB in this class, not yet....Mathews and Best are nipping on his heels here, and over the next few weeks, I'm expecting the race to be wide open all the way up to draft time where it will become a matter of preference.ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
 
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Kleck said:
Jahvid Best - 5'10 1/8" 199C.J. Spiller - 5'10 5/8" 196
I like the fact that both of these guys came in at least around 200 lbs. There is NOT a concern for me about size, and both guys can probably pack on about 5-10 more lbs within the next 12-18 mos. easily. I expect both to run 4.35 or better in the 40, solidifying Top 40 draft status. And lastly, I wouldn't annoint Spiller as the undisputed #1 RB in this class, not yet....Mathews and Best are nipping on his heels here, and over the next few weeks, I'm expecting the race to be wide open all the way up to draft time where it will become a matter of preference.ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
I agree with most of this....but adding weight can slow guys down and some may not be able to do it. I thought their would be more of a differential between Best and Spiller.Dwyer needs to run a great 40 to get any consideration from me.
 
ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
Why? I think he'll have the best pro career of the bunch. By a mile.
Slow feet, not great agility.
:tumbleweed: For his size, he has phenomenal feet, quick feet, and fantastic agility. I watched virtually every game of his at GT. This is simply untrue.Now, I will agree that he is not the scat back type that Spiller and Best are. But, he brings so much more to the table, imo.
 
ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
Why? I think he'll have the best pro career of the bunch. By a mile.
Slow feet, not great agility.
:tumbleweed: For his size, he has phenomenal feet, quick feet, and fantastic agility. I watched virtually every game of his at GT. This is simply untrue.Now, I will agree that he is not the scat back type that Spiller and Best are. But, he brings so much more to the table, imo.
I don't think Dwyer has slow feet. I really like this guy. He is going to be a very good RB IMO.
 
ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
Why? I think he'll have the best pro career of the bunch. By a mile.
Slow feet, not great agility.
:tumbleweed: For his size, he has phenomenal feet, quick feet, and fantastic agility. I watched virtually every game of his at GT. This is simply untrue.Now, I will agree that he is not the scat back type that Spiller and Best are. But, he brings so much more to the table, imo.
It takes awhile for him to get going....I don't see a great change of direction which is the two areas I outlined.Again...people evaluate differently....and it is relative.
 
ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
Why? I think he'll have the best pro career of the bunch. By a mile.
Slow feet, not great agility.
:tumbleweed: For his size, he has phenomenal feet, quick feet, and fantastic agility. I watched virtually every game of his at GT. This is simply untrue.Now, I will agree that he is not the scat back type that Spiller and Best are. But, he brings so much more to the table, imo.
It takes awhile for him to get going....I don't see a great change of direction which is the two areas I outlined.Again...people evaluate differently....and it is relative.
True, these are empirical questions that only time will tell. Beyond what my eyes tell me, even scouts you read have applauded how quickly he hits the hole. Again, evaluating a 230+ lb RB is just a different thing than guys that are 195-ish. Different animals, altogether. But, Dwyer has it all, and I would have no concerns about making him my feature back at the NFL level.
 
golden tate just ran better than expected 4.36*...

that would seem to increase the chance he goes in the 2nd round...

mayock calling him best RAC WR in the draft...

* my honda :tumbleweed:

 
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I'm kind of hoping Best runs in the upper 4.4's so people continue to find ways to drop him in their rankings.

 
golden tate just ran better than expected 4.36*...that would seem to increase the chance he goes in the 2nd round...mayock calling him best RAC WR in the draft...* my honda :)
5'10 1/4", 199... Not as small as I've seen some claim he is either.
 
golden tate just ran better than expected 4.36*...that would seem to increase the chance he goes in the 2nd round...mayock calling him best RAC WR in the draft...* my honda :)
5'10 1/4", 199... Not as small as I've seen some claim he is either.
same weight as reggie wayne, almost 2" shorter (the giants steve smith is a listed 5'11" 195... santonio holmes - 5'11" 192)
 
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Spiller only running 40. Will not perform in any other event.
What are we projecting Spiller running here?FWIW, I love the 40 yd dash and all, but when guys like Emmitt only ran a 4.8, and the Raiders routinely pick guys who run sub-4.4s, it is sort of suspect how much interest I put in these times.
 
I'm pretty disappointed that Dwyer only did 15 reps. I know bench press isn't a measure of running power, but that's still a bad number for a big back like Dwyer.

 
ETA: Dwyer is out of the running for the top spot, I personally am avoiding him in fantasy leagues...
Why? I think he'll have the best pro career of the bunch. By a mile.
Slow feet, not great agility.
:thumbup: For his size, he has phenomenal feet, quick feet, and fantastic agility. I watched virtually every game of his at GT. This is simply untrue.Now, I will agree that he is not the scat back type that Spiller and Best are. But, he brings so much more to the table, imo.
I don't think Dwyer has slow feet. I really like this guy. He is going to be a very good RB IMO.
reminds me of how 'slow' Beanie and Shonne Green's feet looked to many. by the end of the year(thru playoffs) i think everyone was pleased. I'm sure everyone will be pleased by Dwyer as well in the end. slow feet on a bigger back is only a real problem is they tend to dance like Ron Dayne did
 
Spiller only running 40. Will not perform in any other event.
What are we projecting Spiller running here?FWIW, I love the 40 yd dash and all, but when guys like Emmitt only ran a 4.8, and the Raiders routinely pick guys who run sub-4.4s, it is sort of suspect how much interest I put in these times.
I agree with you. I like watching and talking about the 40, but it really doesn't matter a whole lot to me. If the guy is fast on the field and runs away from players, then he's fast no matter if he runs a 4.3 or 4.5. I also don't have a problem with a RB who runs a 4.6 or slower and seldom breaks runs of 20 or more if he averages 4+ypc and knows how to find the endzone.
 
reminds me of how 'slow' Beanie and Shonne Green's feet looked to many. by the end of the year(thru playoffs) i think everyone was pleased. I'm sure everyone will be pleased by Dwyer as well in the end. slow feet on a bigger back is only a real problem is they tend to dance like Ron Dayne did
Dwyer's only sort of difficult to evaluate insomuch as the GT offense and that crap spread option alignment, with Dwyer like 3 yards behind the LOS in a FB 3-pt stance much of the time. But, what I did see was a guy who had great burst, shifty and powerful through the first line of defense, no wasted motion, punishing stiff-arm, and out-running the secondary with ease. Obviously not the jaw-dropping quicks of Spiller or Best, but puh-lenty of burst + top-end speed.
 

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