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NFL Divisions through week 4 2013 (1 Viewer)

bostonfred

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Here are the cumulative division standings for the first four weeks:

AFC East 11-5, no teams with losing records, 8-2 (80%) out of division
AFC West 11-5, one team with losing record, 10-4 (71%) out of division
NFC West 9-7, one team with losing record, 6-4 (60%) out of division
NFC North 8-7, two teams with losing records, 5-4 (55%) out of division
AFC South 8-8, one team with losing record, 6-6 (50%) out of division
NFC South 6-9, three teams with losing records, 4-7 (36%) out of division
AFC North 6-10, one team with losing record, 4-8 (33%) out of division
NFC East 4-12, three teams with losing records, 2-10 (17%) out of division

A few things you might not have expected:

1) At 2-2, the Cowboys lead the NFC East, where Philly and Washington are 1-3 and the Giants are 0-4.
2) At 2-2, the Browns lead the AFC North, tied with Cinci and Baltimore. Conversely, the 0-4 Steelers are not only two games back, but trail all three division rivals by two games.
3) The 4-0 Saints are three games ahead of the Panthers (1-2), Falcons (1-3) and Bucs (0-4)
4) The 4-0 Seahawks aren't far behind, with a two game lead over San Francisco and Arizona. That's right - the Cardinals and 49ers have the same record.
5) At 3-1, the Lions and Bears lead the NFC North and are a game and a half ahead of the 1-2 Packers.
6) The 4-0 Chiefs and Broncos have beaten teams with a combined record of 7-25.
7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL.
8) At 3-1, the Titans, not the 2-2 Texans, are tied with the Colts for the AFC South division lead.


TRIVIA: Just one of the answers to last week's trivia question has been supplanted: Name the top five defenses in points allowed. Bonus - which team joined the ranks this week, and who did they knock off?

 
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The NFC East is bad, real bad. I can easily see a 7 - 9 team win the division. Do I even dare say a 6 - 10 team win that division?

 
BusterTBronco said:
There is nothing sadder in this world than someone who has been reduced to "divisional" or "conference" pride. Let's see how the divisions stack up at the end of the season.
:goodposting:

Just waiting for the SEC fans who are also AFC East fans.

 
BusterTBronco said:
There is nothing sadder in this world than someone who has been reduced to "divisional" or "conference" pride. Let's see how the divisions stack up at the end of the season.
What's wrong with the original post? I thought it was very interesting to see all the divisions laid out together like this.

 
Updated the thread title and typo per requests.

Nobody wants to take a shot at the trivia question?
KC and Sea have to be in the top 5, likely top 2. I'll also guess Car because I know they have a shut out and I know they've played well seeing I live in Charlotte.

The other 2? Ummm, Indy as I know they only gave up 3 to Jack and 7 to SF.

Last team, Clev? I have no clue.

 
bostonfred said:
TRIVIA: Just one of the answers to last week's trivia question has been supplanted: Name the top five defenses in points allowed. Bonus - which team joined the ranks this week, and who did they knock off?
Chiefs

Seahawks

Panthers

Colts

Saints

 
Not Sleeping said:
BusterTBronco said:
There is nothing sadder in this world than someone who has been reduced to "divisional" or "conference" pride. Let's see how the divisions stack up at the end of the season.
What's wrong with the original post? I thought it was very interesting to see all the divisions laid out together like this.
Agreed 100%. Someone contributes meaningful content and the first post ridicules him. That's the only thing sad around here.

bostonfred - thanks for taking the time to do this.

 
bostonfred said:
TRIVIA: Just one of the answers to last week's trivia question has been supplanted: Name the top five defenses in points allowed. Bonus - which team joined the ranks this week, and who did they knock off?
Chiefs

Seahawks

Panthers

Colts

Saints
Colts must be the team that joined the top 5 this week after giving up only 3 to Jacksonville. Not sure about who was knocked off the list.

 
Updated the thread title and typo per requests.

Nobody wants to take a shot at the trivia question?
Now that bye weeks have started, should we assume it's average weekly points allowed that you're looking for?
Yes, but interestingly that doesn't change the answer. Collective got it right above - Seahawks, Chiefs, Panthers, Colts and Saints. As for the bonus question - who did they knock out?

 
Updated the thread title and typo per requests.

Nobody wants to take a shot at the trivia question?
Now that bye weeks have started, should we assume it's average weekly points allowed that you're looking for?
Yes, but interestingly that doesn't change the answer. Collective got it right above - Seahawks, Chiefs, Panthers, Colts and Saints. As for the bonus question - who did they knock out?
Pats?
 
Also - the two worst defenses so far (in terms of points allowed) are the Giants (146) and Eagles (138). That shouldn't be too surprising - they're two of the worst defenses in the NFL and both got destroyed by the Broncos. Third worst are the Jaguars (129), who have been beaten around by just about everyone. But there are twelve teams that have allowed 100 or more points so far, which include a couple teams I wouldn't expect, and don't include some teams I would have. Name as many as you can without looking (and let's see if your wrong guesses include the same ones I would have guessed).

 
Updated the thread title and typo per requests.

Nobody wants to take a shot at the trivia question?
Now that bye weeks have started, should we assume it's average weekly points allowed that you're looking for?
Yes, but interestingly that doesn't change the answer. Collective got it right above - Seahawks, Chiefs, Panthers, Colts and Saints. As for the bonus question - who did they knock out?
Pats?
Correct - the Pats are now sixth in the NFL in points allowed, and will probably slide further without Vince Wilfork, especially with New Orleans coming up in two weeks in a possible matchup of undefeated teams.

 
BusterTBronco said:
I especially love the OP's point #7

"7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL."

:lmao:

They beat the Bills and the Jets for crying out loud. Two teams which I guarantee will finish the year below .500
I really don't care about you and I'm not trying to pick a fight with Broncos fans or fans of any other team, but since you seem hell bent on making this a discussion, congratulations to the Denver Broncos, who are tied for first in their own division and have beaten the 0-4 Giants, 1-3 Eagles and their fierce division rival, the 1-3 Raiders since putting their embarrassing inferiority complex on display by crying to the national media about Flacco's picture being on the stadium where Peyton threw the game ending interception in overtime last year.

 
BusterTBronco said:
I especially love the OP's point #7

"7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL."

:lmao:

They beat the Bills and the Jets for crying out loud. Two teams which I guarantee will finish the year below .500
Crap in a box and slap a guarantee on it and what do you have?

 
BusterTBronco said:
I especially love the OP's point #7

"7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL."

:lmao:

They beat the Bills and the Jets for crying out loud. Two teams which I guarantee will finish the year below .500
I really don't care about you and I'm not trying to pick a fight with Broncos fans or fans of any other team, but since you seem hell bent on making this a discussion, congratulations to the Denver Broncos, who are tied for first in their own division and have beaten the 0-4 Giants, 1-3 Eagles and their fierce division rival, the 1-3 Raiders since putting their embarrassing inferiority complex on display by crying to the national media about Flacco's picture being on the stadium where Peyton threw the game ending interception in overtime last year.
:headbang:

 
bostonfred said:
Here are the cumulative division standings for the first four weeks:

AFC East 11-5, no teams with losing records, 8-2 (80%) out of division

AFC West 11-5, one team with losing record, 10-4 (71%) out of division

NFC West 9-7, one team with losing record, 6-4 (60%) out of division

NFC North 8-7, two teams with losing records, 5-4 (55%) out of division

AFC South 8-8, one team with losing record, 6-6 (50%) out of division

NFC South 6-9, three teams with losing records, 4-7 (36%) out of division

AFC North 6-10, one team with losing record, 4-8 (33%) out of division

NFC East 4-12, three teams with losing records, 2-10 (17%) out of division

A few things you might not have expected:

1) At 2-2, the Cowboys lead the NFC East, where Philly and Washington are 1-3 and the Giants are 0-4.

2) At 2-2, the Browns lead the AFC North, tied with Cinci and Baltimore. Conversely, the 0-4 Steelers are not only two games back, but trail all three division rivals by two games.

3) The 4-0 Saints are three games ahead of the Panthers (1-2), Falcons (1-3) and Bucs (0-4)

4) The 4-0 Seahawks aren't far behind, with a two game lead over San Francisco and Arizona. That's right - the Cardinals and 49ers have the same record.

5) At 3-1, the Lions and Bears lead the NFC North and are a game and a half ahead of the 1-2 Packers.

6) The 4-0 Chiefs and Broncos have beaten teams with a combined record of 7-25.

7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL.

8) At 3-1, the Titans, not the 2-2 Texans, are tied with the Colts for the AFC South division lead.

TRIVIA: Just one of the answers to last week's trivia question has been supplanted: Name the top five defenses in points allowed. Bonus - which team joined the ranks this week, and who did they knock off?
Great post, love the analysis and insight.

I've bolded the things I was truly not expecting.

Not surprised Cowboys are leading the division, or are doing it at 2-2 -- was a lot of questions in this division, even off the bat, and didn't expect any one team to be dominant within or without the division. Am surprised that the Giants haven't won one yet.

While it is surprising the Steelers are winless, I would not have been fazed at all if they were 1-3 at this point, so 0-4 isn't shocking.

Falcons at 1-3 is mildly surprising, but always thought they looked better on paper and their lack of a D (esp a consistent pass rush) was and still is a huge weakness. Bucs at 0-4 is also mildly surprising given how well Martin and the offense did last year, but not so surprising given the course of the first few games of the season.

Undefeated Chiefs is a big surprise; not an undefeated Broncos team.

Pats being undefeated is mildly surprising given injury and talent leak from last year, but it's Brady & Bellichick, so not a huge leap that they would be the cream of their division. That the division is the toughest in the NFL is very surprising.

I think how TEN has been winning (minus contribution from Britt and CJ) is surprising, but not that they are leading the division at this point at 3-1. Will surprise me if their pace continues, even if Locker hadn't gotten injured.

 
BusterTBronco said:
I especially love the OP's point #7

"7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL."

:lmao:

They beat the Bills and the Jets for crying out loud. Two teams which I guarantee will finish the year below .500
I really don't care about you and I'm not trying to pick a fight with Broncos fans or fans of any other team, but since you seem hell bent on making this a discussion, congratulations to the Denver Broncos, who are tied for first in their own division and have beaten the 0-4 Giants, 1-3 Eagles and their fierce division rival, the 1-3 Raiders since putting their embarrassing inferiority complex on display by crying to the national media about Flacco's picture being on the stadium where Peyton threw the game ending interception in overtime last year.
lol. nice.Still though, you don't honestly believe that the AFC East is the toughest division in football do you?

The Bills and the Jets are the suck and Miami got exposed pretty badly last night. Pats are for real though and will likely only get better.

 
BusterTBronco said:
I especially love the OP's point #7 "7) The Patriots aren't just 4-0, they're 2-0 against division opponents in the toughest division in the NFL." :lmao: They beat the Bills and the Jets for crying out loud. Two teams which I guarantee will finish the year below .500
I really don't care about you and I'm not trying to pick a fight with Broncos fans or fans of any other team, but since you seem hell bent on making this a discussion, congratulations to the Denver Broncos, who are tied for first in their own division and have beaten the 0-4 Giants, 1-3 Eagles and their fierce division rival, the 1-3 Raiders since putting their embarrassing inferiority complex on display by crying to the national media about Flacco's picture being on the stadium where Peyton threw the game ending interception in overtime last year.
lol. nice.Still though, you don't honestly believe that the AFC East is the toughest division in football do you?The Bills and the Jets are the suck and Miami got exposed pretty badly last night. Pats are for real though and will likely only get better.
Mia is better than they showed last night. They were missing their best defender and still seemed to control the LOS for the first half. A couple of mistakes really derailed them. That will happen to young teams. Yeah, I expect NYJ to implode eventually. Buf I'm really not sure about.

Regardless of what happens down the road. The AFC certainly has the most impressive start. The AFC West isn't far behind.

 
Buf will be a legit team but is still a year away from the playoffs.

Manuel will struggle as a road rookie against some Ds, two wins seem reasonable which puts their win ceiling at 8-9 for this year.

Will know a lot more about how the remainder of his year might shape up after the Thurs game.

Their D is much improved (near the bottom last year). They picked Flacco 5 times despite missing 3/4 of their starting secondary.

 
The dolphins are 3-1 and the bills and jets are 2-1 in games not involving the patriots. And all of the teams are ascending - the jets have a good d and a rookie qb who should cut down on the turnovers as the season goes on, the bills have an impressive rookie qb and wr and a talented but injury prone backfield who seem to be coming together and a d that looks better on paper than what they've done so far, and the dolphins were a trendy preseason pick after their free agent spending spree and are looking good.

Compare that with the afc west, where the chiefs were literally the worst team in football last year, but have feasted on two 0 and 4 teams (nyg and jax). Oakland blows, but has an impressive rookie qb and wr and backfield, and san diego looks kind of like miami but with a worse d. Meh.

Maybe the nfc north? Green bay should be better than 1-2, but the lions and bears have a tendency to disappoint for stretches at a time, so their 3-1 records make up for it.

The nfc west? Seattle certainly looks good so far, and the 49ers seem likely to right their ship. People seem pleasantly surprised that the cards are .500, but disappointed in the rams.

The afc north could make a case, I guess. Baltimore sucked in the second half last year and won a title, so maybe they're just taking it easy so far. Doubtful, but maybe. Cinci should be the class of that division, but they're just not that great. The browns are scrappy, and could be that wild card team that comes out of nowhere to be a playoff spoiler, but two wins is already exceeding some peoples expectations after they traded trich away. And the steelers have been terrible.

So if not the afc east, then who?

 

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