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NFL Draft Countdown's 2007 Mock (1 Viewer)

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Although the mocks are MUCH too early (if only for positioning), some nice "pairings" are out there for Dynasty owners. As someone who needs some upgrades in my league requiring IDP's, there appears to be some talent at DL and LB (though finding multiple high producing DL's in 1 draft is tough). On the "O" side - Johnson in SF, Peterson in GB, Lynch with the Jets, Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded) and Rice in SD all sound interesting right now.

 
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Although the mocks are MUCH too early (if only for positioning), some nice "pairings" are out there for Dynasty owners. As someone who needs some upgrades in my league requiring IDP's, there appears to be some talent at DL and LB (though finding multiple high producing DL's in 1 draft is tough). On the "O" side - Johnson in SF, Peterson in GB, Lynch with the Jets, Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded) and Rice in SD all sound interesting right now.
Rice = Spurrier WR = Florida WR = :thumbdown:
 
Although the mocks are MUCH too early (if only for positioning), some nice "pairings" are out there for Dynasty owners. As someone who needs some upgrades in my league requiring IDP's, there appears to be some talent at DL and LB (though finding multiple high producing DL's in 1 draft is tough). On the "O" side - Johnson in SF, Peterson in GB, Lynch with the Jets, Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded) and Rice in SD all sound interesting right now.
Rice = Spurrier WR = Florida WR = :thumbdown:
Not that I completely disagree with that thought, I have been more impressed with Rice than most. Also, I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
 
Although the mocks are MUCH too early (if only for positioning), some nice "pairings" are out there for Dynasty owners. As someone who needs some upgrades in my league requiring IDP's, there appears to be some talent at DL and LB (though finding multiple high producing DL's in 1 draft is tough). On the "O" side - Johnson in SF, Peterson in GB, Lynch with the Jets, Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded) and Rice in SD all sound interesting right now.
Rice = Spurrier WR = Florida WR = :thumbdown:
Not that I completely disagree with that thought, I have been more impressed with Rice than most. Also, I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
I agree he's talented, but come hell or high water, Rice will not be on my roster. After the great chances I've taken over the years on Hilliard, Gaffney, Travis Taylor (yuck), and Jacobs, I've had enough of the "Old ball coache's" WRs.
 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
Tough to tell with a banged up OLine and a pathetic D. Everybody knows he's throwing by the 2nd half. gruden did well with Feeley in Philly, Gannon in Oakland and was doing ok with Simms. I think they would wait a year before grabbing another QB early.
 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but yes I do. He has been hampered by poor receiver and line play. In addition, I agree he has made some bad decisions, but no worse than other rookies starting early in their career. He has a good pocket presence, a decent to good arm and has a good grasp of the offense considering how long he has been in the system. I think the Bucs need to re-tool the line to help C. Williams , plus get another playmaker at WR (Clayton/Stovall aren't the answers and Galloway is on the way down). Though Brohm MAY be an upgrade, that isn't their primary need and I am personally convinced he would be any better in that offense. Time will tell though.
 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
Tough to tell with a banged up OLine and a pathetic D. Everybody knows he's throwing by the 2nd half. gruden did well with Feeley in Philly, Gannon in Oakland and was doing ok with Simms. I think they would wait a year before grabbing another QB early.
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I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
Explain this comment. How exactly should they be "stepping up"?
E. Parker has been a decent possession receiver, while V. Jackson and Floyd have been inconsistent IMO. Look, maybe I had higher hopes for that group (based on potential and measurables), but I haven't been overly impressed with them this year. Of course, with the way the Chargers are winning, I don't think they care what I think. :) I am not a "Chargers homer", nor have I seen much more than 25% of the offensive game time this year, so it's just an opinion. Sorry if you felt I was overly critical.
 
I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
Explain this comment. How exactly should they be "stepping up"?
E. Parker has been a decent possession receiver, while V. Jackson and Floyd have been inconsistent IMO. Look, maybe I had higher hopes for that group (based on potential and measurables), but I haven't been overly impressed with them this year. Of course, with the way the Chargers are winning, I don't think they care what I think. :) I am not a "Chargers homer", nor have I seen much more than 25% of the offensive game time this year, so it's just an opinion. Sorry if you felt I was overly critical.
Explain this comment. How exactly have they been "inconsistent"?I didn't say you were being overly critical. I just don't get the impression that you know what you are talking about.

 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but yes I do. He has been hampered by poor receiver and line play. In addition, I agree he has made some bad decisions, but no worse than other rookies starting early in their career. He has a good pocket presence, a decent to good arm and has a good grasp of the offense considering how long he has been in the system. I think the Bucs need to re-tool the line to help C. Williams , plus get another playmaker at WR (Clayton/Stovall aren't the answers and Galloway is on the way down). Though Brohm MAY be an upgrade, that isn't their primary need and I am personally convinced he would be any better in that offense. Time will tell though.
I've seen nothing that refutes my belief that Gruden (or anyone else making draft decisions for the Bucs) will simply not go balls-out in beefing up their offensive line. Hell, they should use a couple drafts worth of picks there!!
 
Lynch in New York is interesting... any Jets homers (or anyone else for that matter) care to speculate the chances of the Jets drafting a long-term RB this offseason? If this happens, I assume they keep Leon around as a change of pace back... can they cut Barlow without much of a cap hit? I assume Houston could be kept for depth purposes as his contract is probably not too large, being a low-round draft pick. Thoughts?

 
I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
Explain this comment. How exactly should they be "stepping up"?
E. Parker has been a decent possession receiver, while V. Jackson and Floyd have been inconsistent IMO. Look, maybe I had higher hopes for that group (based on potential and measurables), but I haven't been overly impressed with them this year. Of course, with the way the Chargers are winning, I don't think they care what I think. :) I am not a "Chargers homer", nor have I seen much more than 25% of the offensive game time this year, so it's just an opinion. Sorry if you felt I was overly critical.
Explain this comment. How exactly have they been "inconsistent"?I didn't say you were being overly critical. I just don't get the impression that you know what you are talking about.
And you are probably correct. Maybe you can tell me what I am missing with the Chargers receivers?
 
I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
Explain this comment. How exactly should they be "stepping up"?
E. Parker has been a decent possession receiver, while V. Jackson and Floyd have been inconsistent IMO. Look, maybe I had higher hopes for that group (based on potential and measurables), but I haven't been overly impressed with them this year. Of course, with the way the Chargers are winning, I don't think they care what I think. :) I am not a "Chargers homer", nor have I seen much more than 25% of the offensive game time this year, so it's just an opinion. Sorry if you felt I was overly critical.
Explain this comment. How exactly have they been "inconsistent"?I didn't say you were being overly critical. I just don't get the impression that you know what you are talking about.
And you are probably correct. Maybe you can tell me what I am missing with the Chargers receivers?
First of all, I'm not a Charger homer either.I don't think the Charger WRs have been inconsistent, but rather they are all role players who aren't expected to carry the load offensively. LT and Gates are options 1 and 2. McCardell and Parker (when healthy) move the chains when needed, and Jackson and Floyd (again, when healthy) become options in the red zone. At least this is what it appears to me.

Think about New England the past few years, although obviously Branch and to a lesser extent Givens were able to produce fantasy-worthy stats.

The Charger WRs do what they are asked, just not much more... in my outsider opinion, anyway.

 
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First of all, I'm not a Charger homer either.I don't think the Charger WRs have been inconsistent, but rather they are all role players who aren't expected to carry the load offensively. LT and Gates are options 1 and 2. McCardell and Parker (when healthy) move the chains when needed, and Jackson and Floyd (again, when healthy) become options in the red zone. At least this is what it appears to me.Think about New England the past few years, although obviously Branch and to a lesser extent Givens were able to produce fantasy-worthy stats.The Charger WRs do what they are asked, just not much more... in my outsider opinion, anyway.
You pretty much nailed it. Just because one of them is not racking up 100 catches does not mean they are inconsistent or not stepping up. The comparison to the Patriots is pretty good except they weren't competing for catches with one of the best receiving backs in league history and two more-than-capable TEs. There are just too many options on this team (including an extremely potent running game) for one guy to stand out.
 
If NYG decides to draft a back to replace Barber to team with Jacobs....K. Irons would be a decent choice and likely will be available in the late teens to early 20's where they will probably be choosing. I kind of think that is a bit high for him myself, but the Giants may feel the need if they cannot find a decent free agent to go along with Jacobs. I highly doubt he is a Pittsburgh kind of guy as is projected in this mock.

It will be interesting to see where Michael Bush will be drafted as well.

 
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If NYG decides to draft a back to replace Barber to team with Jacobs....K. Irons would be a decent choice and likely will be available in the late teens to early 20's where they will probably be choosing. I kind of think that is a bit high for him myself, but the Giants may feel the need if they cannot find a decent free agent to go along with Jacobs. I highly doubt he is a Pittsburgh kind of guy as is projected in this mock.It will be interesting to see where Michael Bush will be drafted as well.
I could see the Giants signing a guy like Ladell Betts to pair with Jacobs in a RBBC for next season. This is assuming Betts doesn't get exposed as not very good down the stretch this season and does fairly well.
 
If NYG decides to draft a back to replace Barber to team with Jacobs....K. Irons would be a decent choice and likely will be available in the late teens to early 20's where they will probably be choosing. I kind of think that is a bit high for him myself, but the Giants may feel the need if they cannot find a decent free agent to go along with Jacobs. I highly doubt he is a Pittsburgh kind of guy as is projected in this mock.It will be interesting to see where Michael Bush will be drafted as well.
Bush was a Jr, no? He'll probably go back to school.
 
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If NYG decides to draft a back to replace Barber to team with Jacobs....K. Irons would be a decent choice and likely will be available in the late teens to early 20's where they will probably be choosing. I kind of think that is a bit high for him myself, but the Giants may feel the need if they cannot find a decent free agent to go along with Jacobs. I highly doubt he is a Pittsburgh kind of guy as is projected in this mock.It will be interesting to see where Michael Bush will be drafted as well.
Just cant see them picking up a back like Irons. He's not in the mold of Tiki and the Giants have a much more powerful back in Jacobs. Irons has not been impressive or special this year in a way to deserve a first round selection. Given their past record, I'd expect a lineman in the first round.
 
I've seen nothing that refutes my belief that Gruden (or anyone else making draft decisions for the Bucs) will simply not go balls-out in beefing up their offensive line. Hell, they should use a couple drafts worth of picks there!!
They only need a big LT and they'll be set for a decade.Hopefully they can get Joe Thomas or Levi Brown, but if not, Quinn Pit#### gets my vote.
 
Although the mocks are MUCH too early (if only for positioning), some nice "pairings" are out there for Dynasty owners. As someone who needs some upgrades in my league requiring IDP's, there appears to be some talent at DL and LB (though finding multiple high producing DL's in 1 draft is tough). On the "O" side - Johnson in SF, Peterson in GB, Lynch with the Jets, Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded) and Rice in SD all sound interesting right now.
Rice = Spurrier WR = Florida WR = :thumbdown:
don't think you have to worry about him in this years draft as Sidney Rice says he is coming back to school. he will be a redshirt junior if he returns.
 
Brohm in TB (though I think Gradkowski is the answer if the O-line is upgraded)
You really think Gradkowski is the answer? He has had one good game (his very first start), and then subsequently gone on to play progressively worse and continue to average nearly two turnovers per game.I understand he's a rookie, but I don't have much confidence in his talent level to develop into anything more than a spot starter.
:confused: 139-259 53.7% 1328yrds 9TD 6INT 70LongDon;t get me wrong I dont think he is playing lights out or anything, but he has Galloway to throw too and oh yeah Galloway to throw to and when he isn't throwing to Galloway he might dump it off to eitehr Galloway or Caddy.With the crappy Oline play, the less then stellar run game, a crappy defense and 1 WR... you think he hasnt played well? 90-169 53.3% 1164 7TD 8INTThats Drew Bledsoe's stats. ON A WINNING TEAM WITH Owens, Glenn, Witten, Crayton, Fasano, Jones, Barber.... Compare and get back to me. Gradkowski is playing "good" considering his surroundings.
 
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I am not completely sold on any of the current Charger receivers. There is potential there, but none of them have stepped up completely yet.
Explain this comment. How exactly should they be "stepping up"?
E. Parker has been a decent possession receiver, while V. Jackson and Floyd have been inconsistent IMO. Look, maybe I had higher hopes for that group (based on potential and measurables), but I haven't been overly impressed with them this year. Of course, with the way the Chargers are winning, I don't think they care what I think. :) I am not a "Chargers homer", nor have I seen much more than 25% of the offensive game time this year, so it's just an opinion. Sorry if you felt I was overly critical.
Explain this comment. How exactly have they been "inconsistent"?I didn't say you were being overly critical. I just don't get the impression that you know what you are talking about.
And you are probably correct. Maybe you can tell me what I am missing with the Chargers receivers?
Explain this comment. What do you mean that maybe he can tell you?
 
Bump with an interesting take from DraftKing from 11/14:

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2007 NFL Mock Draft1. Oakland Raiders - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame2. Arizona Cardinals - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin3. Tennessee Titans - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson5. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville6. Detroit Lions - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan7. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma8. Buffalo Bills - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.9. Washington Redskins * - LaMarr Woodley, DE/OLB, Michigan10. Cleveland Browns - Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.11. Minnesota Vikings - LaRon Landry, FS, LSU12. Pittsburgh Steelers - Quentin Moses, DE/OLB, Georgia13. San Francisco 49ers - Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, Ohio St.14. Green Bay Packers - Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn15. Cincinnati Bengals - Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio St.16. New York Jets - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC17. Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame18. Kansas City Chiefs - Daymeion Hughes, CB, California19. Dallas Cowboys - Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame20. Baltimore Ravens - Tom Zbikowski, SS, Notre Dame21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn St.22. St. Louis Rams - Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame23. San Diego Chargers - Buster Davis, ILB, Florida St.24. Carolina Panthers - Michael Griffin, S, Texas25. New England Patriots (via Seattle) - Reggie Nelson, DB, Florida26. New England Patriots - Rufus Alexander, OLB, Oklahoma27. Atlanta Falcons - Justin Blalock, OG, Texas28. Denver Broncos * - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan29. New Orleans Saints - Patrick Willis, ILB, Ole Miss30. New York Giants - Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina31. Chicago Bears - Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan St.32. Indianapolis Colts - Dave Harris, ILB, Michigan
Someone asked about no Lynch and he commented that he views him as a mid to late 1st, but doesn't see the teams that need a RB picking there, so he's early 2nd in his mock. Sort of like KJones and SJax slipped a couple of years ago.
 
Bump with an interesting take from DraftKing from 11/14:

20. Baltimore Ravens - Tom Zbikowski, SS, Notre Dame :X

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I'm certainly no expert, but Zbikowski has looked pretty bad all year. Overpowered on tackles, beaten in coverage. I can't see him going first round, and I thought I heard he was petitioning for a 5th year.
 
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2007 NFL Mock Draft1. Oakland Raiders - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame2. Arizona Cardinals - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin3. Tennessee Titans - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson5. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville6. Detroit Lions - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan7. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma8. Buffalo Bills - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.9. Washington Redskins * - LaMarr Woodley, DE/OLB, Michigan10. Cleveland Browns - Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.11. Minnesota Vikings - LaRon Landry, FS, LSU12. Pittsburgh Steelers - Quentin Moses, DE/OLB, Georgia13. San Francisco 49ers - Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, Ohio St.14. Green Bay Packers - Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn15. Cincinnati Bengals - Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio St.16. New York Jets - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC17. Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame18. Kansas City Chiefs - Daymeion Hughes, CB, California19. Dallas Cowboys - Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame20. Baltimore Ravens - Tom Zbikowski, SS, Notre Dame21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn St.22. St. Louis Rams - Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame23. San Diego Chargers - Buster Davis, ILB, Florida St.24. Carolina Panthers - Michael Griffin, S, Texas25. New England Patriots (via Seattle) - Reggie Nelson, DB, Florida26. New England Patriots - Rufus Alexander, OLB, Oklahoma27. Atlanta Falcons - Justin Blalock, OG, Texas28. Denver Broncos * - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan29. New Orleans Saints - Patrick Willis, ILB, Ole Miss30. New York Giants - Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina31. Chicago Bears - Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan St.32. Indianapolis Colts - Dave Harris, ILB, Michigan
Someone asked about no Lynch and he commented that he views him as a mid to late 1st, but doesn't see the teams that need a RB picking there, so he's early 2nd in his mock. Sort of like KJones and SJax slipped a couple of years ago.
That doesn't look quite right. :loco:
 
Romeo Crennel has utterly lost his football team, imo. The team is spinning out of control - they are fighting each other on the sidelines and no-one is even trying to win anymore. I will be shocked if they win another game this season. I fully expect a 3-13 season and for Crennel to get canned. Is that gonna get us the #1 pick?

 
Bump with an interesting take from DraftKing from 11/14:

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2007 NFL Mock Draft1. Oakland Raiders - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame2. Arizona Cardinals - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin3. Tennessee Titans - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson5. Miami Dolphins - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville6. Detroit Lions - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan7. Houston Texans - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma8. Buffalo Bills - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.9. Washington Redskins * - LaMarr Woodley, DE/OLB, Michigan10. Cleveland Browns - Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.11. Minnesota Vikings - LaRon Landry, FS, LSU12. Pittsburgh Steelers - Quentin Moses, DE/OLB, Georgia13. San Francisco 49ers - Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, Ohio St.14. Green Bay Packers - Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn15. Cincinnati Bengals - Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio St.16. New York Jets - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC17. Philadelphia Eagles - Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame18. Kansas City Chiefs - Daymeion Hughes, CB, California19. Dallas Cowboys - Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame20. Baltimore Ravens - Tom Zbikowski, SS, Notre Dame21. Jacksonville Jaguars - Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn St.22. St. Louis Rams - Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame23. San Diego Chargers - Buster Davis, ILB, Florida St.24. Carolina Panthers - Michael Griffin, S, Texas25. New England Patriots (via Seattle) - Reggie Nelson, DB, Florida26. New England Patriots - Rufus Alexander, OLB, Oklahoma27. Atlanta Falcons - Justin Blalock, OG, Texas28. Denver Broncos * - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan29. New Orleans Saints - Patrick Willis, ILB, Ole Miss30. New York Giants - Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina31. Chicago Bears - Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan St.32. Indianapolis Colts - Dave Harris, ILB, Michigan
Someone asked about no Lynch and he commented that he views him as a mid to late 1st, but doesn't see the teams that need a RB picking there, so he's early 2nd in his mock. Sort of like KJones and SJax slipped a couple of years ago.
I know its way too early to really break these things down, but theres a few picks in there that seem way off.Brohm to MIA with Cpep's contract on the books for the next few years and Harrington playing well will virutally guarantee they dont bring in a high salary there.Zbikowski to the Ravens with Reed locked up long-term and Landry playing very well. The absolutely huge Justin Blaylock (6'4, 340), going to a zone-blocking Atlanta team where the avg size on the OL is around 303lbs.
 
Good comments. Don't think this is a great mock, but wondering about the Lynch exclusion. Is this possible? Are there really only 2 first round RB picks and if a team likes Irons better, does Lynch drop to the 2nd?

 
I think Crennal has one more season... 2 is a little short. 3 years and no improvement GET THE HECK OUT!!!

I agree about the "skill" position. Time to be NOT sexy and go with the Oline.

 
I think Crennal has one more season... 2 is a little short. 3 years and no improvement GET THE HECK OUT!!!I agree about the "skill" position. Time to be NOT sexy and go with the Oline.
I think we've got a Bud Carson situation here. When your team quits on your coach, you really have no choice but to fire him.
 
And that mock sucks - the Browns need OL. STOP DRAFTING OFFENSIVE SKILL POSITION GUYS!
Didnt the Browns just spend like 90 million on a center and left tackle?
something like that, but...one is out for the season and my not play football againthe other is an average LT at bestOL is a position of needi don't care what we are spending on the line, it is apparently not enoughwe can not open holes in the running game, and we give poor Charlie zero time when he drops back to passJoe Montana in his prime couldn't survive playing behind our line, it really is that bad
 

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