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What cities could have an NFL team?

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I have heard that the NFL is thinking about starting a new team in San Antonio. I think it could be a good market for NFL and they do have the Alamodome. I was wondering what other people thought and what other cities would be good NFL locations.

:football: Steve

 
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Also, Oklahoma City. They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise. Oklahoma is a football state.

 
Also, Oklahoma City. They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise. Oklahoma is a football state.
Good point, sorry I forgot them
 
Also, Oklahoma City. They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise. Oklahoma is a football state.
for whatever reason college football success with fans doesn't equal pro success. Never understood it.Nebraska too

 
I'm thinking Toronto would be a good city. I have been up to Canada a couple times and they seem to have good fan support for not so good teams.

 
I have heard that the NFL is thinking about starting a new team in San Antonio.  I think it could be a good market for NFL and they do have the Alamodome.  I was wondering what other people thought and what other cities would be good NFL locations.

:football: Steve
The Saints really got them going. While unfortunate it's good in that the city could give a team a test drive of sorts. I'd bet they could support an NFL team
 
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I noticed that you left out Columbus, Ohio. Is that because if we were to get an NFL team then Cleveland would want one to.

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I have heard that the NFL is thinking about starting a new team in San Antonio. I think it could be a good market for NFL and they do have the Alamodome. I was wondering what other people thought and what other cities would be good NFL locations.
Coming from a resident and someone that aided the Saints while in town, this will not happen. Local politics, costs involved and the fact the mayor pissed off one of the most powerful entertainment entities in North America last fall will see to it that San Antonio never sees an NFL franchise. The city is currently negotiating a lease of the Dome to the Cowboys for training camp. San Antonio and the area south are the Cowboys second largest revenue market. J. Jones is building to protect his business interests in the area. Texas has the Cowboys, high school football, UT, A&M and the Texans. That is the priority order also. There is no room for another franchise especially in this market, which is heavily dedicated to the Cowboys; Longhorns; Aggies and several high school teams. Only so many dollars to go around.Lastly, why would an economic system built on revenue sharing elect to put a team in an area already saturated with football product; politically adverse to the idea; void of Fortune 100 or 500 companies and lacking disposable income versus putting it into the nation's 1st or 2nd largest media market currently void of professional football? The NFL, as a business, is not that ignorant or short-sighted. San Antonio is not a good market for football, which is speaking in terms of strict dollars & cents and ability to get a stadium resolution passed. There are not enough big businesses present to support luxury box sales and residents are not going to vote for a resolution to retrofit the Alamodome. Robert Kraft, during a live interview on NFL Total Access a few weeks ago, made it very clear the next NFL franchise will be in Los Angeles, if owners have anything to say about.
 
I wish they wouldn't expand. 32 teams is enough--it works out well with scheduling and playoff formatting.

 
Also, Oklahoma City.  They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise.  Oklahoma is a football state.
for whatever reason college football success with fans doesn't equal pro success. Never understood it.Nebraska too
The big issue is the success of the Hornets. They are averging a lot more now than they did last year in NO. But, Bri, some geographic regions support different sports better. I think we all would agree with that. Nebraska just does not have the population base to consider. The third largest city in Neb is the football stadium on Saturdays.
 
I'm telling you, Toronto. I mean people go to Raptor games and they could probably use the Blue Jays Stadium for a couple years

 
I heard that San Antonio is also trying to buy the Florida Marlins. What will their focus be baseball or football?
Baseball. Now, if the city is currently being used as leverage and or a bargining chip, that remains to be seen, but it appears the city has a group heavily involved with the Marlins regarding moving baseball operations to south Texas. The mayor's comments this past fall did irrevocable damage to any relationship between the league and the city. Tagliabue made it very clear the last time he was in town that San Antonio would never have a team. Yes, I am well aware he is leaving his position, but trust in what he said.
 
Also, Oklahoma City. They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise. Oklahoma is a football state.
for whatever reason college football success with fans doesn't equal pro success. Never understood it.Nebraska too
If Omaha keeps growing, I can see that as an eventual NFL city. There's not much else around there and they should be able to draw in fans willing to make a couple hour drive to the game (Husker fans do it all the time time driving to Ames, Iowa).
 
I've heard that Houston is looking for a professional football team....  :unsure:
As bad as Houston has been, theyve still been more successful than Cleveland has been.
Thus is so... unfortunatly I seem to have a head-cold that has kicked my funny bone in the Jim Bobs... or perhaps it's the dayquil :)
 
I agree that 32 teams is enough, but if they're going to expand it's most likely going to be to Toronto. Toronto is a huge metropolis with enough fans to sustain an NFL team. They could use the Skydome (now called the Rogers Centre). It's currently the home of the Toronto Argonauts, but I'm guessing the Argos are headed to another city once the NFL arrives. But I bet they'll build a whole new stadium for the team. One thing to take into consideration is the fact that the Canadian dollar is gaining big on the US dollar, the exchange rate is almost even now. So it's not like they'll be at a disadvantage because of the value of the dollar.

The other location that really should have an NFL team is LA. But for some reason the NFL has never done well in LA. I'm not sure why either, maybe it's because USC and UCLA do so well, maybe it's because of the Lakers. But I don't know if the commish is going to give LA another team.

 
I have heard that the NFL is thinking about starting a new team in San Antonio.  I think it could be a good market for NFL and they do have the Alamodome.  I was wondering what other people thought and what other cities would be good NFL locations.

:football: Steve
LINK?(BTW, speaking of links, the one in the quote above seems like a strange one to have as your signature. . .)

 
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I'm telling you, Toronto. I mean people go to Raptor games and they could probably use the Blue Jays Stadium for a couple years
Toronto is unlikely to get a team as long as the Bills are in Buffalo. I'm still not even sure Toronto would support an NFL franchise. That city loves the Maple Leafs, but support for the Blue Jays and Raptors seems to be pretty inconsistent.Also, I believe NFL stadiums have a minimum seat capacity requirement that the SkyDome would be unable to meet.

found this interesting article from a couple years ago:

Los Angeles scores asbest place for sports teams

Phoenix as most overextended market, American City Business Journals study finds

By G. Scott Thomas

American City Business Journals

Updated: 7:13 a.m. ET Oct. 4, 2004

Los Angeles and Phoenix may be separated by just 375 miles, but they are light-years apart in terms of sports economics.

Los Angeles is the nation’s most appealing site for an expansion or relocated team, says a new study by American City Business Journals. The No. 1 ranking is based specifically on Los Angeles’ ability to support a new franchise in the National Football League.

Phoenix, on the other hand, is the most overextended market in the nation, according to the study. That means its income base is insufficient for its current teams, let alone new ones.

American City Business Journals analyzed 172 markets across America to determine their economic ability to support additional professional teams in baseball, football, basketball, hockey and soccer. The study focused on markets without a team in at least one of the five major sports.

Los Angeles ranks first because of its economic power. Its income base is eight times larger than necessary to adequately support a franchise in the NFL, the only league in which L.A. is not represented.

Right behind Los Angeles on the list of best sites for new teams are Philadelphia, Orlando, Houston, Portland, Ore., and Las Vegas:

Philadelphia, the nation’s sixth-largest metropolitan area, is the biggest market not in Major League Soccer.

Orlando has twice the economic capacity needed for an NFL franchise or a National Hockey League team. It also has the highest rating of any market not in Major League Baseball, though its income base falls 7 percent short of the sport's requirements.

Houston, with a population above 5 million, has more than enough room to add either a hockey or soccer team.

Portland could back a pro team in any of three leagues, including the NFL, MLS and the NHL.

Las Vegas has the strongest income base of any area without a franchise in any of the five major sports. It ranks No. 1 among all potential markets for the National Basketball Association.

At the opposite end of the spectrum is Phoenix, which already has baseball, football, basketball and hockey franchises.

The study estimated that Phoenix would need another $68 billion in total personal income (TPI) to comfortably support all four teams. TPI is the sum of all money earned by all residents of an area in a given year.

The shortfall does not necessarily mean that any of Phoenix's teams will move or fold. But it is a fairly reliable sign that they can expect continued volatility in attendance and revenues.

Some of Phoenix’s franchises, in fact, are finding it difficult to prosper in their overextended market:

The Arizona Cardinals ranked dead last in the NFL in attendance last season. The Cardinals averaged 36,000 fans per game. Every other team in the league was above 53,000.

The Phoenix Suns fell 4 percent short of last year's average crowd size in the NBA.

The Phoenix Coyotes finished 19th in the 30-team NHL in attendance in 2003-2004.

Following Phoenix on the list of overextended sports markets are Tampa-St. Petersburg, Pittsburgh, Denver, Kansas City, Cincinnati and Milwaukee. Each would need at least another $30 billion in TPI to provide a comfortable base for its existing franchises.
This suggests Orlando and Portland could be viable options if the NFL wants to stay out of Vegas and an LA deal falls through again.
 
Good find Aaron. I wonder what it says about Green Bay with about 100,000 people and 1 franchise if Milwaukee is overextended with just under 1 million and 2 franchises, unless they're somehow considered the same market despite the distance separating them. I also don't think there's any chance of another team in Florida with 3 already there; it's funny that the NFL is in Jacksonville and not Orlando in the first place. Has Portland already been examined as an option? Not that I think the NFL should expand at all.

 
Good find Aaron.  I wonder what it says about Green Bay with about 100,000 people and 1 franchise if Milwaukee is overextended with just under 1 million and 2 franchises, unless they're somehow considered the same market despite the distance separating them.  I also don't think there's any chance of another team in Florida with 3 already there; it's funny that the NFL is in Jacksonville and not Orlando in the first place.  Has Portland already been examined as an option?  Not that I think the NFL should expand at all.
Yeah, I think Milwaukee/Green Bay are probably being grouped together in that study.I agree. Orlando is close to Tampa and Jacksonville, so they are likely out.

Portland definitely seems like a great fit for a baseball franchise, and I think it would be cool to have a hockey franchise in Seattle or Portland at some point.

I don't think any of the 4 major leagues should expand anytime soon...especially the NFL. I think LA's best chance of getting a team is building a new stadium and bringing in an existing team from somewhere else. Perhaps a better question to ask would be which existing team is most likely to wind up relocating to LA?

Most likely candidates at this point seem to be: Saints, Jaguars, Bills, Chargers. Cardinals are getting a new stadium and the Colts should be too so that likely takes them off the market.

 
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The support for sports teams in Toronto is quite good, lots of rabid footbal fans up here.

Taglibue said its not happening though :(

id love to see it.

 
The support for sports teams in Toronto is quite good, lots of rabid footbal fans up here.
really? I remember reading that teams in Quebec and out West consistently drew better than the Argos. Raptors still drawing well? Blue Jays always did well over the past 10 years?
 
Good find Aaron.  I wonder what it says about Green Bay with about 100,000 people and 1 franchise if Milwaukee is overextended with just under 1 million and 2 franchises, unless they're somehow considered the same market despite the distance separating them.  I also don't think there's any chance of another team in Florida with 3 already there; it's funny that the NFL is in Jacksonville and not Orlando in the first place.  Has Portland already been examined as an option?  Not that I think the NFL should expand at all.
Yeah, I think Milwaukee/Green Bay are probably being grouped together in that study.I agree. Orlando is close to Tampa and Jacksonville, so they are likely out.

Portland definitely seems like a great fit for a baseball franchise, and I think it would be cool to have a hockey franchise in Seattle or Portland at some point.

I don't think any of the 4 major leagues should expand anytime soon...especially the NFL. I think LA's best chance of getting a team is building a new stadium and bringing in an existing team from somewhere else. Perhaps a better question to ask would be which existing team is most likely to wind up relocating to LA?

Most likely candidates at this point seem to be: Saints, Jaguars, Bills, Chargers. Cardinals are getting a new stadium and the Colts should be too so that likely takes them off the market.
Interesting stuff.I don't think the NFL will expand but I see the Jaguars packing up for LA. I think Vegas will get a team down the road and that might be the next expansion. Before that though I think they will get an NBA team and the NFL will look to see how that works out. I still think the Saints will move to San Antonio and san Diego will likely come through with new digs to support the Chargers. If not, I see them moving to LA and saving the Jags from moving. Why did Jacksonville ever get a team anyway?

 
There's no talk here in Orlando about an expansion team. We don't have an NFL ready stadium really to begin with. There was some talk about the Bucs moving here a decade ago, but then they got their new stadium back then. Already have 2 teams within a 2 hour drive from the metro area. Even if the NFL expands (which it shouldn't IMO), it's unikely Orlando is even in the mix.

 
Why did Jacksonville ever get a team anyway?
Not really sure.as for the Saints going to San Antonio, WhoDat makes a pretty compelling case against that scenario in his post above.
Yes I did see that and I think it is a solid argument to teh degree that San Antonio has burned bridges. My question is can the State of Texas support another baseball team? How successful has baseball been in Texas? Texas has marginal attendance figures of 15th, 18th, 13th, 16th, and 11th going backwards to 2002 and it is the #7 market in the country. Houston has been better but will those Astros fans living in SA jump ship? I think SA is a bad idea and MLB would be better off in Charlotte, Portland, or Nashville. Whatever league/franchise is first to Vegas will hit a gold mine but again I say the NBA will be first in there. If a team moves to San Antonio a market in the 30s, it's just going to end up moving on from there. That makes no sense to me. Nashville, Potland, and Carolina make much more sense for a baseball team.

 
Why did Jacksonville ever get a team anyway?
Not really sure.as for the Saints going to San Antonio, WhoDat makes a pretty compelling case against that scenario in his post above.
Jax was able to floor the NFL with their presentation during that expansion. It was a combination of that and the unimpressive presentations by the LA groups that enabled the Jaguars to come into existence. It was even a surprise to us we'd get another team in Florida at the time. Just the same I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually move. Although they've been a competitive franchise, they've had a hard time in gaining a foothold in the Central Florida market (predominantly Dolphin fans here). They also play in a stadium that's too large and next to impossible to sell out, especially without a strong fan base in Central Florida to supplement a relatively small market in the north, leading to too many local tv blackouts. Wayne Weaver denies the speculation about moving, but in the end I won't be surprised if it happens.

 
Also noticed no mention of Mexico City.I doubt they'd ever put a team there, but they have used the city as a test market recently. Probably more viable than some of the other cities mentioned if the NFL ever does expand.

 
With the Jets and Giants signing a stadium deal in NJ recently, they're locked up. Even still, I can't help but think the NFL won't give up their hope to have a team in NYC.

They were close to getting the Jets moved there and there's still ill will between them and Dolan(proof in no NFL Network for his cable co and draft moved out os "his" Madison Square Garden)

I wouldn't be surprised if "outta nowhere" they're the top candidate to get an expansion team one day

 
Also, Oklahoma City. They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise. Oklahoma is a football state.
for whatever reason college football success with fans doesn't equal pro success. Never understood it.Nebraska too
The big issue is the success of the Hornets. They are averging a lot more now than they did last year in NO. But, Bri, some geographic regions support different sports better. I think we all would agree with that. Nebraska just does not have the population base to consider. The third largest city in Neb is the football stadium on Saturdays.
Oklahoma City should get an NBA franchise soon, but I'm curious to see how much of the Hornet's attraction right now is that they're new and the fans don't know if they, or another team, will be around in the future. It's nice to support a team for a year, it's entirely different to maintain that support once the original attraction wears off and the team is struggling.

San Antonio would be my choice if a team moved. NO expansion.

 
Also noticed no mention of Mexico City.I doubt they'd ever put a team there, but they have used the city as a test market recently. Probably more viable than some of the other cities mentioned if the NFL ever does expand.
Maybe. I'd like to see a MLBaseball team there first.
 
Also noticed no mention of Mexico City.I doubt they'd ever put a team there, but they have used the city as a test market recently. Probably more viable than some of the other cities mentioned if the NFL ever does expand.
I think Mexico City is about 7,400 feet above Sea Level....over 2,000 feet higher than Mile High in Denver. Wonder how the altitude and heat would affect football players. Might see a 70yd FG though.also found this link in a quick google search:

The choice of Mexico City to host the 1968 Olympics was a controversial one because of the city's high altitude, 2,300m, which meant that the air contained 30% less oxygen than at sea level. Sure enough, the rarefied air proved disastrous to many athletes competing in endurance events. On the other hand, the high altitude led to world records in all of the men’s races that were 400m or shorter, including both relays, and in the 400m hurdles, in the long jump and triple jump as well.
 
With the Jets and Giants signing a stadium deal in NJ recently, they're locked up. Even still, I can't help but think the NFL won't give up their hope to have a team in NYC.

They were close to getting the Jets moved there and there's still ill will between them and Dolan(proof in no NFL Network for his cable co and draft moved out os "his" Madison Square Garden)

I wouldn't be surprised if "outta nowhere" they're the top candidate to get an expansion team one day
3 teams in the NYC area? :loco:

 
I'm telling you, Toronto. I mean people go to Raptor games and they could probably use the Blue Jays Stadium for a couple years
Toronto is unlikely to get a team as long as the Bills are in Buffalo. I'm still not even sure Toronto would support an NFL franchise. That city loves the Maple Leafs, but support for the Blue Jays and Raptors seems to be pretty inconsistent.Also, I believe NFL stadiums have a minimum seat capacity requirement that the SkyDome would be unable to meet.

found this interesting article from a couple years ago:

Los Angeles scores asbest place for sports teams

Phoenix as most overextended market, American City Business Journals study finds

By G. Scott Thomas

American City Business Journals

Updated: 7:13 a.m. ET Oct. 4, 2004

Los Angeles and Phoenix may be separated by just 375 miles, but they are light-years apart in terms of sports economics.

Los Angeles is the nation’s most appealing site for an expansion or relocated team, says a new study by American City Business Journals. The No. 1 ranking is based specifically on Los Angeles’ ability to support a new franchise in the National Football League.

Phoenix, on the other hand, is the most overextended market in the nation, according to the study. That means its income base is insufficient for its current teams, let alone new ones.

American City Business Journals analyzed 172 markets across America to determine their economic ability to support additional professional teams in baseball, football, basketball, hockey and soccer. The study focused on markets without a team in at least one of the five major sports.

Los Angeles ranks first because of its economic power. Its income base is eight times larger than necessary to adequately support a franchise in the NFL, the only league in which L.A. is not represented.

Right behind Los Angeles on the list of best sites for new teams are Philadelphia, Orlando, Houston, Portland, Ore., and Las Vegas:

Philadelphia, the nation’s sixth-largest metropolitan area, is the biggest market not in Major League Soccer.

Orlando has twice the economic capacity needed for an NFL franchise or a National Hockey League team. It also has the highest rating of any market not in Major League Baseball, though its income base falls 7 percent short of the sport's requirements.

Houston, with a population above 5 million, has more than enough room to add either a hockey or soccer team.

Portland could back a pro team in any of three leagues, including the NFL, MLS and the NHL.

Las Vegas has the strongest income base of any area without a franchise in any of the five major sports. It ranks No. 1 among all potential markets for the National Basketball Association.

At the opposite end of the spectrum is Phoenix, which already has baseball, football, basketball and hockey franchises.

The study estimated that Phoenix would need another $68 billion in total personal income (TPI) to comfortably support all four teams. TPI is the sum of all money earned by all residents of an area in a given year.

The shortfall does not necessarily mean that any of Phoenix's teams will move or fold. But it is a fairly reliable sign that they can expect continued volatility in attendance and revenues.

Some of Phoenix’s franchises, in fact, are finding it difficult to prosper in their overextended market:

The Arizona Cardinals ranked dead last in the NFL in attendance last season. The Cardinals averaged 36,000 fans per game. Every other team in the league was above 53,000.

The Phoenix Suns fell 4 percent short of last year's average crowd size in the NBA.

The Phoenix Coyotes finished 19th in the 30-team NHL in attendance in 2003-2004.

Following Phoenix on the list of overextended sports markets are Tampa-St. Petersburg, Pittsburgh, Denver, Kansas City, Cincinnati and Milwaukee. Each would need at least another $30 billion in TPI to provide a comfortable base for its existing franchises.
This suggests Orlando and Portland could be viable options if the NFL wants to stay out of Vegas and an LA deal falls through again.
Football in Canada and particularly in Quebec is popular. Not as much as in the US but it's popular. It's impossible to get tickets for the Als one week aftertheyre released. The stadium might only have 27,000 seats but whenever they play at the olympic stadium (twice a year, 70,000 seats capacity), it's always full. Everyone talks about Toronto but in Canada, the province of Quebec is the real deal. I can guarantee you that if Montreal would be getting better assistances than the Cards.
 
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I agree with Mexico City as one of the choices should the league expand. Of course, LA is/will be the first choice, but look at it this way. How many teams around the league have gotten new stadiums by threatening to move their franchise to LA? San Diego is playing this game right now with the county. If the NFL fills LA with an existing team, they lose that leverage. In addition to this, the NFL has expressed an interest to be more 'international'. This is why we have NFLEurope. This is why there are preseason games in cities like Mexico City, Tokyo, London, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see them (again, IF they do) to expand to either Canada or Mexico before they put a team in Portland, Orlando, or Vegas.

 
I hope no one is in favor of expanding the league as it is right now. There are 32 teams which to much movement year in and year out as it stands now. Plus, 32 teams makes 6 divisions real nice and does anyone remember when there were 31 teams with bye weeks going into week 17? Those years were messy to say the least.

The NFL should keep it at 32 teams for many many years to come if not forever.

 
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I was out thinking myself for a second there..

MY editing?? LOL..

 
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Also, Oklahoma City.  They would be an outsider, but the success of the Hornets (and their corporate support) might parlay into a NFL franchise.  Oklahoma is a football state.
for whatever reason college football success with fans doesn't equal pro success. Never understood it.Nebraska too
The big issue is the success of the Hornets. They are averging a lot more now than they did last year in NO. But, Bri, some geographic regions support different sports better. I think we all would agree with that. Nebraska just does not have the population base to consider. The third largest city in Neb is the football stadium on Saturdays.
Oklahoma City should get an NBA franchise soon, but I'm curious to see how much of the Hornet's attraction right now is that they're new and the fans don't know if they, or another team, will be around in the future. It's nice to support a team for a year, it's entirely different to maintain that support once the original attraction wears off and the team is struggling.

San Antonio would be my choice if a team moved. NO expansion.
OZ, I do not disagree that the proof is in the pudding. I just know that NO did not support the Hornets in the last couple of years. I just know that there are teams not getting the corporate, and fan, support needed to sustain a NBA or NFL franchise and OKC has taken a step. On San Antonio, I think you underestimate how big of a market SA is for the Cowboys. I would think the Cowboys might even consider it local for TV/radio coverage. The reach and appeal of the Cowboys across Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and the Southwest is huge. Ever notice how many Cowboy fans are in the stadium when they play at Arizona?

One city I think that could surprise would be Salt Lake City.

 
Like a lot of people I think expanding the NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL is a bad idea. There have been a couple of people who mentioned Montreal. I am not from Canada, but believe it or not I was a big Expos fan in the day. I remember the team selling out every game and then 10 years later seeing an empty ballpark. I know that we are talking about two different sports, but Montreal fans did not even check out a contending MLB team, plus the ticket prices where dirt cheap compared to any other team. I'm thinking LA or Toronto would be good picks. Again it's a bad idea for the NFL to expand, but if they do these would be good markets.

 
Where did you get these city choices from? LA is the only sane vote choice of the bunch.

Orlando? Already 3 teams in the state. Tampa Bay is 40 minutes away. Jax is not that far north. ZERO chance of this.

Toronto - A great city, but it is in the wrong country. IF they move outside the US (which they won't), then Mexico City is CLEARLY the front runner. They draw 120k for pre-season exhibition play down there.

Memphis? Such a small market I'm not even sure which state it is in. Mississippi or Tennessee I think, but who cares. Better stick with your season tickets to the swamp buggy races.

SA - Already 2 teams in the state and again, they can't touch the TV market of LA. If they expand vs. move a team, SA is probably a likely candidate for the 2nd of 2, with LA a given.

I see a team moved into LA before the jump to more teams again.

 
On San Antonio, I think you underestimate how big of a market SA is for the Cowboys. I would think the Cowboys might even consider it local for TV/radio coverage
Austin/San Antonio and the area immediately south ranks as the Cowboys' largest revenue market for all things Cowboy outside of the Metroplex. There will not be another professional football team in San Antonio via a move or expansion at any point during most of our lifetimes.San Antonio does not have the financial power to support a team. San Antonio does not have their collective political #### together enough to land a team. San Antonio city management completely ruined any ongoing business relationship with the NFL. San Antonio is J. Jones largest money making market outside of his own backyard. It is not going to happen.
 
I agree the 32 team set up is here to stay. However in the next 10 years there could be a lot of franchises moving. Jacksonville, New Orleans, Buffulo, Oakland, and maybe even a couple other surprises over the years. There is a lot more cities working hard to obtain a franchise then on the poll. Albuqueque is one city that means business. Yes you all say it's too small of a market but trust me. Albuquerque will have a pro franchise some day. Maybe not in 10 years but some day. Rio Rancho and Sante Fe is all considered in the market area and central New Mexico is growing at an alarming rate and will have a NFL team some day! And lead by Governor Richardson has been very aggressive this past year in trying to land a pro franchise in Albuquerque. It might be a just a dream of Richardson's but it's been all over the local news for months now that he is trying to pull off a stunner that your all be sayiing I told you so some day!

 

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