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Three Vikings Fined By NFL

Kevin Seifert, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Minnesota Vikings LB Chad Greenway was fined $7,500 by the NFL for grabbing the facemask of New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush in week five. Vikings CB Antoine Winfield was fined $10,000 for celebrating a blocked field goal and WR Robert Ferguson was fined $5,000 for a late hit.

Cardinals DB Wilson Fined Heavily By NFL

Tim Graham, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Arizona Cardinals DB Adrian Wilson was fined $25,000 by the NFL for his hit on Buffalo Bills QB Trent Edwards in week five.

Eagles WR Jackson, DB Demps Fined For Celebration

ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Philadelphia Eagles WR DeSean Jackson and DB Quintin Demps were each fined $10,000 by the NFL for celebrating after a punt return for a touchdown in week five.

These headlines are listed within 9 spots on the news blogger. I imagine late in the week is when fines are listed and this is why so many are so close.

But the fines seem a little out of control to me. I agree with fining a player for helmet to helmet or possibly some excessive celebration. These guys may be pros ,but sports, football particularly is an emotional sport and the NFL seems to want robots out there on the field. The rule of thumb seems to be don't get excited, don't celebrate,don't say anything not preapproved. And tackling a QB seems like a difficult propositon withput getting fined.Perhaps I'm alone on this but I don't recall this many fines before Goodell tookover. Guys were allowed to play and show emotion.

 

[vikingdave]

When was the last time a player, ANY PLAYER, was fined for a facemask? I expect every facemask to result in a fine from here on out...

 

[vikingdave]

Three Vikings Fined By NFL

Kevin Seifert, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Minnesota Vikings LB Chad Greenway was fined $7,500 by the NFL for grabbing the facemask of New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush in week five. Vikings CB Antoine Winfield was fined $10,000 for celebrating a blocked field goal and WR Robert Ferguson was fined $5,000 for a late hit.

Cardinals DB Wilson Fined Heavily By NFL

Tim Graham, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Arizona Cardinals DB Adrian Wilson was fined $25,000 by the NFL for his hit on Buffalo Bills QB Trent Edwards in week five.

Eagles WR Jackson, DB Demps Fined For Celebration

ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Philadelphia Eagles WR DeSean Jackson and DB Quintin Demps were each fined $10,000 by the NFL for celebrating after a punt return for a touchdown in week five.

These headlines are listed within 9 spots on the news blogger. I imagine late in the week is when fines are listed and this is why so many are so close.

But the fines seem a little out of control to me. I agree with fining a player for helmet to helmet or possibly some excessive celebration. These guys may be pros ,but sports, football particularly is an emotional sport and the NFL seems to want robots out there on the field. The rule of thumb seems to be don't get excited, don't celebrate,don't say anything not preapproved. And tackling a QB seems like a difficult propositon withput getting fined.Perhaps I'm alone on this but I don't recall this many fines before Goodell tookover. Guys were allowed to play and show emotion.

Yea, god forbid a guy be happy he scored a TD...

 

[LTsharks]

Three Vikings Fined By NFL

Kevin Seifert, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Minnesota Vikings LB Chad Greenway was fined $7,500 by the NFL for grabbing the facemask of New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush in week five.

There have always been facemask penalties. Why the fine for this one? I don't think I saw it - did he do something different then the usual facemask call?

 

[Mikey16x]

No, and i was actually going to start a thread like this a couple of days ago. The facemask by greenway was a regular run of the mill penalty. I watched the game and saw the replay and if this was two seasons ago probably would have gotten 5 yards if seen. The only reason they fined him was because it was a crucial play where reggie fumbled and the refs didn't see it and this is there way of justice. The NFL has gone overboard with fines, they are forgetting this is football. Soon, who will need pads? If you lay a guy out there is a pretty good chance your going to get fined. The only fine that I agree with this year is the hit on Boldin which was totally uncalled for.

The Adrian Wilson hit, was a great play, not a foul. He got in there when Edwards was releasing the ball and what? god forbid he redirects the football or forces a turnover as he disrupts the throwing the lane. Not only that, these "hands to the helmet of the QB" penalties are also getting out of control. Did anybody see the Titans game when I forgot the lineman but he went to block the pass while being blocked and kind of tapped Collins on the helmet, Collins was totally fine, it wasn't intentional... Collins never even hit the ground. Football is becoming a no-contact sport.

Also, I agree with the crazy endzone celebrations but whats wrong with a team showing... team moral. If I am a member on the offensive line and threw a great block to spring my running back into the endzone, you better believe I am going to be stoked. I'm going to want to celebrate with my running back for that great play, but nope... that's 10G's, easy. When it comes to celebrations they are without a doubt making it the "No Fun League"

 

[Bri]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

Three Vikings Fined By NFL

Kevin Seifert, ESPN.com - [Full Article]

Minnesota Vikings LB Chad Greenway was fined $7,500 by the NFL for grabbing the facemask of New Orleans Saints RB Reggie Bush in week five.

There have always been facemask penalties. Why the fine for this one? I don't think I saw it - did he do something different then the usual facemask call?

Yeah, he got away with it and helped change the course of the game.Frankly, the refs is that game need to be fined, not the players.

 

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when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this rellevant.

 

[Bri]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

 

[Mikey16x]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

 

[aGiant problem]

i do not agree with the fines but not for the reason most would think....i beleive its time for the nfl to clean itself of low character players and restore pride in the great american traditional we know as football

for first time offenses should be forgiven if they arent particularly heinous

all offenses after that should be game suspensions.......losing money means nothing to millionare athletes and if they crap on the nfl they should be punished in their careers and overall stats and awards as long as they play

losing playing time and therefore contract money and status is the appropriate punishment for the turds of the league

 

[gonzobill5]

The fine on Jackson and Demps was pretty ridiculous. All they did was pose with their arms folded after the TD. These aren't guys that are making big bucks either as both are rookies.

 

[aGiant problem]

just to be clear im only advocating fining criminal and antisocial players.....i have no comment on fining players for hard hits on the field and other such offenses because i am not qualified to make that judgement

 

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when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

 

[Bri]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

I agree, what you said after the words "completely irrelevant" is just that. You took a general statement and assigned specific incidents to it as part of your own reply

 

[j3r3m3y]

It is difficult for me to drum up any concern for people who are in the top whatever percentage of wage earners having to follow strict rules. If my boss wanted to pay me close to a million a year for what I do I would live with the occasional $10,000 fine for something I view as a minor infraction.

The NFL is the reason these guys live large. If they don't like these fines I am sure they will be welcome in the CFL or Arena league.

I bet these fines annoy the person who started this thread far more than anyone who was actually fined.

 

[j3r3m3y]

The fine on Jackson and Demps was pretty ridiculous. All they did was pose with their arms folded after the TD. These aren't guys that are making big bucks either as both are rookies.

"Big Bucks" is relative. I am sure 90% of the nation would consider $285,000 a year (minimum for a rookie) "big bucks".

 

[delusional]

These fines are beginning to become a joke. Every game it seems someone is getting fined for just playing football. I can't see this continuing much longer, someone is going to step in and bring this to attention.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

No, and i was actually going to start a thread like this a couple of days ago. The facemask by greenway was a regular run of the mill penalty. I watched the game and saw the replay and if this was two seasons ago probably would have gotten 5 yards if seen.

disagree. he grabbed and pulled, and Reggie's head twisted. easy 15-yarder. if Greeenway was fined, the refs should be too for missing such a blatant penalty.

 

[GoldenBear]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

I agree, what you said after the words "completely irrelevant" is just that. You took a general statement and assigned specific incidents to it as part of your own reply

If that's your defense, care to elaborate on your general statement? It didn't make sense to me either, and I think his response was completely appropriate.

 

[two_dollars]

Quit argueing semantics. We should be argueing how BS fines are for things that weren't even penalties. Let the refs police the games. That's what they're paid to do.

 

[GoldenBear]

Oh...in that case, I agree...fines should be withheld for incidents where there is vitriolic intent/behavior.

 

[Bri]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

I agree, what you said after the words "completely irrelevant" is just that. You took a general statement and assigned specific incidents to it as part of your own reply

If that's your defense, care to elaborate on your general statement? It didn't make sense to me either, and I think his response was completely appropriate.

not really, well kinda and I mean no disrespect it's just hard to word. Goodell (or Aiello) are in the unpopular spot of assigning fines and reporting them to the media/fans. Arrests are down, wayyyyyyy down in the NFL. To attribute it to just one thing is probably not the best idea unless it's Goodell. Is it player X that always got arrested "grew up"? Is it the fines make guys mind their Ps and Qs? Is it constant nagging of personal conduct policy ringing in their ears? Did all the lectures about personal responsibility work on them? and if so, it'd be personal so it'd be a different case with each person. Maybe Koren and Kerry are alcohol free so they're no longer up to no good, maybe this player had a baby and being a dad just made him change to being more responsible like it has with many of us. Could be anything but....Goodell started this and IMO his fines are his message or reminder-a mere part of this process, not just one cause and one reaction but the fines are a part of it all.Almost every disciplinarian is unpopular so to react to Goodell that way is normal too

 

[GoldenBear]

when is the last time a player was arrested?

How is this relevant.

If all the fines and suspensions ultimately get the players to behave better, Goodell will have accomplished one of his goals that he stated when he took over.

Completely irrelevant, what does Adrian Wilson's hit or Chad Greenway's facemask penalty have anything to do with Adam Jones beating up his bodyguard at a rappers birthday party?

I agree, what you said after the words "completely irrelevant" is just that. You took a general statement and assigned specific incidents to it as part of your own reply

If that's your defense, care to elaborate on your general statement? It didn't make sense to me either, and I think his response was completely appropriate.

not really, well kinda and I mean no disrespect it's just hard to word. Goodell (or Aiello) are in the unpopular spot of assigning fines and reporting them to the media/fans. Arrests are down, wayyyyyyy down in the NFL. To attribute it to just one thing is probably not the best idea unless it's Goodell. Is it player X that always got arrested "grew up"? Is it the fines make guys mind their Ps and Qs? Is it constant nagging of personal conduct policy ringing in their ears? Did all the lectures about personal responsibility work on them? and if so, it'd be personal so it'd be a different case with each person. Maybe Koren and Kerry are alcohol free so they're no longer up to no good, maybe this player had a baby and being a dad just made him change to being more responsible like it has with many of us. Could be anything but....Goodell started this and IMO his fines are his message or reminder-a mere part of this process, not just one cause and one reaction but the fines are a part of it all.Almost every disciplinarian is unpopular so to react to Goodell that way is normal too

Wow...thanks for the elaboration!

 

[delusional]

Check the reports today on who got fined, how much and for what. Also Smith, the guy who hit boldin, tried to get an explaination on his fine.

Smith appealed the decision, but his appeal was denied by the league.“They told me intent wasn’t looked at,” Smith said. “I tried to say my intentions weren’t to hit him like that, but they told me intent wasn’t looked at. But if intent isn’t involved, then why isn’t every fine the same?”That makes you wonder. If Boldin wasn't hurt, would he have got fined that much? It seems Goodell thinks the NFL namesake was hurt also, hence the high fine. Which seems to be the case with all the fines lately. Its an absolute joke, so is Goodell.As for the players fined the past two days, that has been made public knowledge at least.

1. Incognito, penalized three times during the game, was fined $25,000 for repeated verbal abuse of a game official; $5,000 for a major facemask; and $5,000 for a chop block.

2. Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter was fined $20,000 Friday by the NFL for comments critical of beleaguered referee Ed Hochuli and his crew in Sunday's loss at Houston.

3. Denver Broncos cornerback Dre Bly also was fined $20,000 by the NFL for negative comments about the officiating in Denver's 24-17 loss to Jacksonville on Sunday.

4. Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher has been fined $20,000 by the NFL for abusive conduct toward a game official, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Friday on its Web site.

5. Arizona Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson was fined $25000 for his hit on Buffalo Bills quarterback Trent Edwards last Sunday.

So a guy can chop block someone or face mask someone and get fined 5k but god forbid those deadly words that can kill a man get a 25k fine.

Like Tank Daniels for the Eagles, doesn't make much at all, was fined 5k for "unneccesary roughness" when he was penalized on a punt return by the Redskins' Antwaan Randle El in the second half. "Specifically, striking his opponent late and out of bounds," the league source said. If anyone see the play they could tell it was a complete joke, a flag shouldnt have been thrown even. He was tackling the guy on the sideline and their momentum took them deep out of bounds.

Seriously this crap is out of line. I think more players are going to begin speaking out and something is going to happen

 

[Bri]

delusional, intent sounds like something that's tough to prove. I would imagine anyone's mind considers intent even if they can't rule on it. I think there's a catch 22 there

 

[delusional]

When was the last time a player, ANY PLAYER, was fined for a facemask? I expect every facemask to result in a fine from here on out...

The NFL fined Minnesota Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway $7,500 for pulling the facemask of New Orleans Saints tailback Reggie Bush during Monday night's game.The infraction was missed by referee Ed Hochuli's officiating crew. Bush lost a fumble on the play. The league termed the infraction a major facemask in fining Greenway.The league also fined Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield $10,000 for using the goal post as a prop during a touchdown celebration, and fined wide receiver Robert Ferguson $5,000 for a late hit during the game.The new face mask rule is a joke in the first place. If players are going to get 15yd penalties for simply having their hands graze over face masks, they are going to say screw it and just make it worse. Take a look back at the Eagles Dallas game. I thought westbrook was going to have his head ripped off that game. No calls were made and I don't think any fines were thrown out but after that game the fines started coming hard.

 

[delusional]

delusional, intent sounds like something that's tough to prove. I would imagine anyone's mind considers intent even if they can't rule on it. I think there's a catch 22 there

If you watch the replay you could see what was happening. It wasn't hard to tell that if Boldin wasn't hit in the back, he would have hit him in the chest and not in the face. Its easy to see the blatant hits and the accidental freak accidents.Also, if players are getting hit up with all of this money for just criticizing the refs, why hasn't AL Davis been fined for that character assassination of Kiffin? IMHO that hurt the NFL image more then any of these players. Oh, Al and Roger are friends.