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all the reasons you said why they want to keep him is why I want my Broncos to get him
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all the reasons you said why they want to keep him is why I want my Broncos to get him
mel kiper has Ashton Jeanty going to LVR. Local Denver radio suggested, if that happens, a great fit would be Jones as Pete Caroll is a big fan of defense and good run game. Jones only has to be Geno Smith/Russel Wilson level for LVR
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
If Jones was Geno Smith/Russell Wilson level, he'd still be in New York. This reminds me of Kris Kristofferson who was cast as Bill in Kill Bill. Quentin Tarantino would keep telling him to do it like David Carradine. Eventually, Kristofferson said, just go cast Carradine. Same thing here. If you need Jones to be like Russell Wilson, just go get Russell Wilson.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
While I agree with that statement, NY is a unique animal to deal with from an attention and focus perspective and some guys may simply not be cutout for that type of spotlight.
If Jones was Geno Smith/Russell Wilson level, he'd still be in New York. This reminds me of Kris Kristofferson who was cast as Bill in Kill Bill. Quentin Tarantino would keep telling him to do it like David Carradine. Eventually, Kristofferson said, just go cast Carradine. Same thing here. If you need Jones to be like Russell Wilson, just go get Russell Wilson.
Jones struck me as a guy who might fare better in a much smaller market. Truth is, I don't know for sure...but it did feel like his performance deteriorated via snowball effect in a market where they can generate velocity quickly.
except that Wilson is 8 years older and there's still a chance that the young daniel jones puts it together and leads LVR for 10 years.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Daniel Jones on his best day isn't as good as Russell Wilson was last year, and Wilson wasn't very good last year.
i guess I'm biased as a Broncos fan
I'd rather have Daniel Jones then Wilson and I feel like I actually like Russ more then most but his lack of mobility at this stage of his career combined with his slow processing is a big issue. Those sacks are drive killers.
I'm sure Jones has given up his share of sacks but life has been hard behind that OL. Getting out from the NYG did wonders for Barkley, won't ever make Jones worth his draft pedigree or contract but I think he can perform a lot better then he's shown.
I'm sure Jones has given up his share of sacks but life has been hard behind that OL. Getting out from the NYG did wonders for Barkley, won't ever make Jones worth his draft pedigree or contract but I think he can perform a lot better then he's shown.
I'd put Wilson/Jones in the same tier, though I'd take Fields over both, and I know we differ there.
I think $ to quality, Cousins is likely gonna be the prize of FA QBs.
Agree on Jones and Wilson being in the same tier and in fact I was just looking at a top 150 FA list a few beat writers from the Athletic put together and Wilson and Jones were touching each other at 50-51.
And 100% percent agree on Cousins due to the money. Loved the Wilson signing last year as a Steelers fan because of that contract(and also the Fields acquisition relative to what they paid). Cousins is that guy this year. I think he's going to have more options then Russ did last year. Assuming of course he's cut and Fontenot is bluffing, which I believe to be the case.
if the speculation that LVR get jones and Ashton Jeanty, Jones should be under pressure a LOT less.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
People always say a good TE is a QBs best friend, but a solid handoff option might be even better. Also sets up the play action.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Just curious, the Falcons would just release Cousins and take the $65 million cap hit? If they cut him, they would eat $40 million this season and $25 million next. If they trade him, they would recoup $27.5 million. They would be stuck paying him his 2026 salary on the 5th day of the 2025 league calendar, so that isn't going to happen. If my math is right, if ATL cuts him, they will have given Cousins $90 million to play 14 games.
Didn't Jones have Saquon?
that's a good point, but maybe I'm putting too much emphasis on Pete Carroll?
I think it's fair to wonder if Russell Wilson was all that great or if it was Pete who got him there? I'm guessing that Carroll will focus on run and defense and use Jones/whoever as more of a game manager and give the QB a chance to develop
In addition, I think too many QBs are left for dead when the real problem is the team, not the QB.
Like, I'm glad my Broncos drafted Surtain instead of Justin Fields, not because I thought Fields was a bad QB, but because, at the time, I knew my Broncos couldn't help Fields live up to his potential. Same with taking Bradley Chubb over Josh Allen. We all know how great Allen is, but I'm convinced that my Broncos (at the time) would've ruined Allen's career.
LawFitz
Footballguy
To be most accurate it's more than 14 games, but the more part would be for another team, lol.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Amen, brother
agreed.
but all it takes is one team that recognizes this and offers him a starting job with low end starting RB paycheque.
while San Fran likely wants to keep him, if that happens, they cannot compete with that kind of money for a guy who will be your backup. it just doesnt make financial sense in a league with a salary cap.
and if the guy bets on himself, there is a decent chance at a better paycheck ahead. and he may even have a choice of a couple cities where he could play.
personally if it was me, the largest factor wouldnt be the money. it would be the chance to prove I can be a starter. once you prove that, the money will come either way. And I cant fault a guy who wants to play. There is a point where you should remain loyal to your team, but there is a point where you need to lookout for yourself. and a chance to start? Thats probably been his goal since forever. why would you pass it up to take backup money (even if its top end backup money) in San Fran. The answer is.... you dont pass that up. You only get so many chances in this league to prove you can play. When opportunity knocks, you answer the door.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Isn't Mason a RFA? That would mean the Niners have the following tender options:
- A first-round tender would guarantee a salary of $7.5 million (and make the compensation a first-round pick if signed by another team).
- A second-round tender would guarantee a salary of $5.3 million (and make the compensation a second-round pick.
- They can't use a tender for the original round in which the player was selected (which would carry a $3.4 million salary), as Mason wasn't drafted.
- A tender for only the right of first refusal but no compensation would carry a salary of $3.3 million.
Of course, they could also sign Mason to an extension.
Would SF give him a first or second round tender? Would another team want to give up a first or second round pick? I doubt a team would want to part with that for a RB.
- A first-round tender would guarantee a salary of $7.5 million (and make the compensation a first-round pick if signed by another team).
- A second-round tender would guarantee a salary of $5.3 million (and make the compensation a second-round pick.
- They can't use a tender for the original round in which the player was selected (which would carry a $3.4 million salary), as Mason wasn't drafted.
- A tender for only the right of first refusal but no compensation would carry a salary of $3.3 million.
Of course, they could also sign Mason to an extension.
Would SF give him a first or second round tender? Would another team want to give up a first or second round pick? I doubt a team would want to part with that for a RB.
3/57 35 guaranteed for the Rams and Alaric Jackson.
That's...wow. That's a lot for a guy who has been steadily improving but really was only good in 2024. That's about 5 million a year more than I would have guessed. That makes him the 13th highest paid OT in the NFL, which is a lot for a guy I wouldn't really call a quality starter. I mean Jawaan Taylor is getting 20/year so its not the worst OT contract but feels like a lot for a guy who probably is just ok.
Guys like Bernard Reimann, Zach Tom and maybe even Braxton Jones should all be getting bigger contracts than this coming up.
That's...wow. That's a lot for a guy who has been steadily improving but really was only good in 2024. That's about 5 million a year more than I would have guessed. That makes him the 13th highest paid OT in the NFL, which is a lot for a guy I wouldn't really call a quality starter. I mean Jawaan Taylor is getting 20/year so its not the worst OT contract but feels like a lot for a guy who probably is just ok.
Guys like Bernard Reimann, Zach Tom and maybe even Braxton Jones should all be getting bigger contracts than this coming up.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think they let Mason walk. Even if CMC really falls off, Guerendo showed some promise and they can get another cheap option in the draft.
fatness
Footballguy
I believe Washington just used $17.5 million of their cap space while acquiring Deebo Samuel.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Was going to post the same. I am not exaggerating one bit when I say the absolute peak time of twitter is the opening of FA. Terrible timing.
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And no, if he reached it was shortlived, he has resigned.
zamboni
Footballguy
3 yrs/66 mln, 44 guaranteed
Re-signed with the Bucs.
Snoopy
Footballguy
Rapoport is posting on Bluesky.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Evan Engram in Denver today and evidently the Broncos have the inside track
After his agent Mike McCartney talked to interested teams over the weekend, it was decided Engram, who turns 31 the week before the start of the regular season, would give the Broncos the first chance to sign him. As a released player, Engram was free to negotiate with teams prior to the 10 a.m. Monday start of free-agency. - Mike Klis
After his agent Mike McCartney talked to interested teams over the weekend, it was decided Engram, who turns 31 the week before the start of the regular season, would give the Broncos the first chance to sign him. As a released player, Engram was free to negotiate with teams prior to the 10 a.m. Monday start of free-agency. - Mike Klis
zamboni
Footballguy
You're my sunny day.
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zamboni
Footballguy
Per Rapaport on Bluesky, the Pats offered $20 million more than the Bucs did but he stayed put.
I heard from someone else that NE offered more but I'm going to have to be dubious it was a legit $20M he turned down. Maybe over the life of the contract but not guarantees or first few meaningful years of the deal.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm guessing total contract value, but still...
zamboni
Footballguy
I heard he just hurt himself walking to shake hands with Chiefs' team brass.
Seriously though, he may be an interesting late round stash assuming they don't sign or draft anyone else of significance and Hunt doesn't return.
calcinorjones
Footballguy
C Drew Dalman: Agreed with Bears to a three-year, $42 million contract with $28 million guaranteed. (Ian Rapoport)
That $3.5M is up to and if Chiefs are smart like I think they are they'll put in a lot of per game incentives.
Still an interesting signing especially when you see it this early. He can certainly play when healthy.
Boston
Footballguy
Definitely one that makes you think when it happens this early in free agency.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair point and especially when you consider the strong rookie crop that will be in the draft.
