NFL might start suspending over flagrant hits that are currently illeg (1 Viewer)

[Choke]

football is dead.

NinerFan49 ... Johnny Ice is talking to you.

 

[NinerFan49]

Helmets dont need to be the ONLY way to protect ball carriers head.

The ball carrier can do much of his own protection... regardless of having a helmet.

Just as its illegal for a player (at any position) to go HIGH on another player.

Wait. Are you admitting that there should be a penalty when a tackler attempts a violent hit close to another players head... and that results in a helmet-to-helmet collision?

 

[two_dollars]

It's always been part of the game. Every player knew this when they decided to play. They don't have to play football if they don't like it. They can get a job doing something else if they don't want to assume the risk. I don't like flying. I'm not a pilot.

 

[Johnny Ice]

BTW, it doesn't matter about helmet to helmet or shoulder to helmet or forearm to helmet. The NFL is saying stay away from the head when a player is vulnerable & that's something that can be done, IMO.You can't blame these WRs & TEs for wanting some protection. A violent hit to the head can change their life. There's nothing wrong hitting a defenseless player mid-body instead of in the head.Granted, their are times when a defender may have to hit a guy fairly high. In that case, it shouldn't be a fine or suspension. However, there's a bunch of these hits to the head that are unnecessary. That's what should be legislated.

Robinson's hit on Jackson wasn't aimed at his head but under this rule it would be considered "devastating". When two guys are running at each other at a decent speed what else can you do? Maybe stick his facemask in his gut and break a few ribs.

 

[two_dollars]

I can't wait to listen to every former and current NFL player to completely rip this to shreds tomorrow.

 

[Choke]

Helmets dont need to be the ONLY way to protect ball carriers head.

The ball carrier can do much of his own protection... regardless of having a helmet.

Just as its illegal for a player (at any position) to go HIGH on another player.

Wait. Are you admitting that there should be a penalty when a tackler attempts a violent hit close to another players head... and that results in a helmet-to-helmet collision?

Does he go HIGH?Players should not go HIGH on other players.

Delivering a tackle - at waist and thigh level is TEXTBOOK.

Thats not to be confused with a player "dropping his head into waist/thigh level" while being tackled.

 

[two_dollars]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

 

[NinerFan49]

I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.

Yes, this rule change will doom the NFL to obscurity, just like when they made that stupid decision to outlaw clotheslining.

It's the emasculation of the NFL continued. And they leave the rule undefined to enforce at will. This rule is a joke and they will lose more fans than they gain with it.

You're right. The NFL has done a terrible job when it comes to figuring out what is good for the game and what isn't. That's why they have failed so miserably until now, and this attempt to prevent concussions is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, if you can't see people sustaining brain damage, what's the point of watching?

 

[two_dollars]

I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.

Yes, this rule change will doom the NFL to obscurity, just like when they made that stupid decision to outlaw clotheslining.

It's the emasculation of the NFL continued. And they leave the rule undefined to enforce at will. This rule is a joke and they will lose more fans than they gain with it.

You're right. The NFL has done a terrible job when it comes to figuring out what is good for the game and what isn't. That's why they have failed so miserably until now, and this attempt to prevent concussions is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, if you can't see people sustaining brain damage, what's the point of watching?

You have got to be fishing.. no one can really be this...you realize they are changing the game, right? they are saying "don't hit people hard"

 

[Choke]

Helmets dont need to be the ONLY way to protect ball carriers head.

The ball carrier can do much of his own protection... regardless of having a helmet.

Just as its illegal for a player (at any position) to go HIGH on another player.

Wait. Are you admitting that there should be a penalty when a tackler attempts a violent hit close to another players head... and that results in a helmet-to-helmet collision?

Does he go HIGH?Players should not go HIGH on other players.

Delivering a tackle - at waist and thigh level is TEXTBOOK.

Thats not to be confused with a player "dropping his head into waist/thigh level" while being tackled.

And furthermore... players should deliver the blow (in this case tackler-to-ballcarrier) at waist/thigh level WITH EVERY AMOUNT OF FORCE POSSIBLE that does NOT include 1) spearing with a helmet 3) when the player is on the ground 4) neck-head level. *some expections are made to 1)QB throwing, 2)Kickers kicking, 3) returners/receivers catching ... because of the helpless position they are in. This does NOT include a guy running with the ball (see above).

Its not that difficult (just like the Calvin Johnson rule), but people seem bent on making it problematic.

 

[two_dollars]

How about this clean textbook hit, is this now "devastating" and worth a suspension?

 

[Choke]

You have got to be fishing.. no one can really be this...you realize they are changing the game, right? they are saying "don't hit people hard"

Thank you.

 

[NinerFan49]

BTW, it doesn't matter about helmet to helmet or shoulder to helmet or forearm to helmet. The NFL is saying stay away from the head when a player is vulnerable & that's something that can be done, IMO.You can't blame these WRs & TEs for wanting some protection. A violent hit to the head can change their life. There's nothing wrong hitting a defenseless player mid-body instead of in the head.Granted, their are times when a defender may have to hit a guy fairly high. In that case, it shouldn't be a fine or suspension. However, there's a bunch of these hits to the head that are unnecessary. That's what should be legislated.

Robinson's hit on Jackson wasn't aimed at his head but under this rule it would be considered "devastating". When two guys are running at each other at a decent speed what else can you do? Maybe stick his facemask in his gut and break a few ribs.

Under the rules, Robinson's hit was not illegal because he struck with the shoulder first. It is likely that under the new rules, that hit would be considered illegal... and that is a good thing. His decision to launch himself at an area that close to Jackson's head led to a concussion for Jackson and could have led to worse damage. Think of it as a worker's rights issue. If an employer finds that there are certain dangerous situations that keep recurring, the employer should try to find a way to prevent those situations.Having fewer players taking "devastating hits" to the head is a very good thing.

 

[delusional]

I hate Roger..plain and simple.

Might as well watch the Lingerie League in a few years.

Whats next? Defensive players have to play with their cleats tied together to cut down on speed that is used to cause big its?

No tackling above the waist except for arm tackles?

The game has been bad the past few seasons with these refs blowing normal calls, i can't wait to see how much crap happens when a ref deems something as a bad hit and gets a player ejected / suspended.

Whats going to happen when a defensive player avoids making a tackle because it would have been too "devastating" and it leads to that team giving up a critical first down or losing the game. What does that guy tell his coach? Sorry i didn't want to get suspended and lose money? How fast would this guy be demoted by the coach?

 

[NinerFan49]

I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.

Yes, this rule change will doom the NFL to obscurity, just like when they made that stupid decision to outlaw clotheslining.

It's the emasculation of the NFL continued. And they leave the rule undefined to enforce at will. This rule is a joke and they will lose more fans than they gain with it.

You're right. The NFL has done a terrible job when it comes to figuring out what is good for the game and what isn't. That's why they have failed so miserably until now, and this attempt to prevent concussions is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, if you can't see people sustaining brain damage, what's the point of watching?

You have got to be fishing.. no one can really be this...you realize they are changing the game, right? they are saying "don't hit people hard"

No. They are saying "don't hit people hard on the head (or very close to it)." Big difference.

 

[two_dollars]

I can't wait to hear what Ray Lewis has to say about this. He's quickly becoming one of my all time favorite NFL players. One of the last pure football players left.

 

[NinerFan49]

Players should not go HIGH on other players.

Looks like we agree.

 

[delusional]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

Apparently the people complaining expect the defensive player to not tackle him until he is in a "defensive" state....at least that is what it seems.Its hard enough to tackle someone at full speed but now you are going to have to lower yourself to waist him? while keeping your head up? Seriously someone go and try to do that while running after a person, its going to look like a bunch of people taking a dump on a dirty toilet seat

 

[two_dollars]

You have got to be fishing.. no one can really be this...you realize they are changing the game, right? they are saying "don't hit people hard"

No. They are saying "don't hit people hard on the head (or very close to it)." Big difference.

#### happens at the speed the game is played. People who have played it understand this. There are already rules in place for head hunting.

 

[NinerFan49]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

 

[Choke]

We should not allow the offensive line to hit the defensive line hard either.

 

[delusional]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

his arms? waist?like other people said, the speed at which players are moving out there, its pretty damn near impossible to pull up sometimes and hits happen.

 

[NinerFan49]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

 

[Choke]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

Stop the ball carrier from running forward (blindly) with their helmets at waist level. Either drop your shoulder or get on the ground.Either way, they should protect themselves.

 

[NinerFan49]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

his arms? waist?like other people said, the speed at which players are moving out there, its pretty damn near impossible to pull up sometimes and hits happen.

If you're trying to prevent a pass from being caught, yes, the arms would be a good place to aim for. But any area not dangerously close to the head should work well.

 

[two_dollars]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

If a WR is jumping, extended, reaching for a high pass with ribs exposed, now you really have no place to hit him. Can't go high, can't launch a shoulder into his midsection, can't go low an up-end him (that would be too "devastating") I guess you just can't run full speed at wr's anymore just in case the pass is high. I think wr's should have to have fear running across the middle. The "blow up" hits were part of the on field system of checks and balances.

When a wr has zero fear of an underneath crossing route, then the NFL has a problem. I am starting to see the big picture being painted by all these protective rules. The NFL wants arena league scoring. This season games are averaging 68 passes. The most in history. Why? Everyone is protected. The defense can't do part of their job effectively anymore.

 

[ScottyFargo]

And you don't even see the irony of POUTING over a perceived loss of toughness in the NFL. That's not how a man is supposed to act.

 

[NinerFan49]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

Stop the ball carrier from running forward (blindly) with their helmets at waist level. Either drop your shoulder or get on the ground.Either way, they should protect themselves.

Do you really think LeSean Jackson was in a position to "try to protect himself"? Kinda hard to do when you're stretching out to try to catch a pass.

 

[two_dollars]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

his arms? waist?like other people said, the speed at which players are moving out there, its pretty damn near impossible to pull up sometimes and hits happen.

If you're trying to prevent a pass from being caught, yes, the arms would be a good place to aim for. But any area not dangerously close to the head should work well.

What if his arms are above his head? Or by his head? Can you drive your shoulder pad through his ribs at full speed? Is that ok?

 

[Choke]

POUTING

That could be your new log in name.Evryone has seen you troll post after post after post.

 

[NinerFan49]

And you don't even see the irony of POUTING over a perceived loss of toughness in the NFL. That's not how a man is supposed to act.

+1

 

[two_dollars]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

Stop the ball carrier from running forward (blindly) with their helmets at waist level. Either drop your shoulder or get on the ground.

Either way, they should protect themselves.

Do you really think LeSean Jackson was in a position to "try to protect himself"? Kinda hard to do when you're stretching out to try to catch a pass.

Are you serious? Are you even an NFL fan? Maybe he shouldn't try to catch the pass that put him in that position. He's a big boy, he knows the risks. No one on the Eagles was complaining about it after the game. NO ONE. They ALL basicly said "that's football."

 

[two_dollars]

And you don't even see the irony of POUTING over a perceived loss of toughness in the NFL. That's not how a man is supposed to act.

+1

-1

 

[NinerFan49]

This season games are averaging 68 passes. The most in history. Why? Everyone is protected. The defense can't do part of their job effectively anymore.

Yes, and that is why so few people watch the NFL nowadays.

 

[two_dollars]

This season games are averaging 68 passes. The most in history. Why? Everyone is protected. The defense can't do part of their job effectively anymore.

Yes, and that is why so few people watch the NFL nowadays.

Yep, selling out for casual fans, yourself included. btw, game attendance is dropping.. know why? The game is becoming trendy and casual fans don't go to the stadium. They go to sports bars.

 

[NinerFan49]

Trent Dilfer made a good point. If you see a WR running across a zone to catch a pass, and now you can't blow him up to break up a pass, what can you do? Go low? Hit his legs? Now you have knee injuries. The problem of injuries will not go away.

You try to "blow him up" by striking with to an area that is not dangerously close to his head. Or his knees. That leaves plenty of areas to aim for.

his arms? waist?like other people said, the speed at which players are moving out there, its pretty damn near impossible to pull up sometimes and hits happen.

If you're trying to prevent a pass from being caught, yes, the arms would be a good place to aim for. But any area not dangerously close to the head should work well.

What if his arms are above his head? Or by his head? Can you drive your shoulder pad through his ribs at full speed? Is that ok?

Until I see differently, I'm going to take the NFL at it's word and assume that what they mean by "devastating hits" is hits that end up striking the head... or vicious hits on "defenseless receivers," which was already a rule.http://www.nesn.com/2010/10/nfl-set-to-ann...ating-hits.html

According to a report by ESPN.com, NFL vice president of football operations Ray Anderson announced that the policy will be in effect for Week 7 matchups and even first-time offenders will face suspension.

"We can't and won't tolerate what we saw Sunday," Anderson said on Monday. "We've got to get the message to players that these devastating hits and head shots will be met with a very necessary higher standard of accountability. We have to dispel the notion that you get one free pass in these egregious or flagrant shots."

 

[Truman]

Welcome to the Nancy Football League.

If it prevents me from watching a game with my daughter and trying to explain why someone was killed on the field playing the sport I love, I'm all for it.

Don't watch with your daughter.

They can watch the Pro Bowl

 

[NinerFan49]

This season games are averaging 68 passes. The most in history. Why? Everyone is protected. The defense can't do part of their job effectively anymore.

Yes, and that is why so few people watch the NFL nowadays.

Yep, selling out for casual fans, yourself included. btw, game attendance is dropping.. know why? The game is becoming trendy and casual fans don't go to the stadium. They go to sports bars.

1. Right. It is a shame that that NFL is "selling out to the casual fans." They should cater only to the "true fans" who enjoy seeing people sustain brain damage.2. Right. The recession and outrageously high ticket and concession prices have had absolutely no effect on game attendance. It's only the "trendiness" of the NFL that has resulted in lower attendance.3. You are aware that the NFL is more popular than it has ever been. Right?

 

[Choke]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

Stop the ball carrier from running forward (blindly) with their helmets at waist level. Either drop your shoulder or get on the ground.

Either way, they should protect themselves.

Do you really think LeSean Jackson was in a position to "try to protect himself"? Kinda hard to do when you're stretching out to try to catch a pass.

He had caught the pass. http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4749/dsj1.pngHe was starting to run with the ball. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9282/dsj2.png

Truth? The QUARTERBACK got his WR DEVASTATED.

But... The defender does have his helmet at neck/head level when the blow is delievered.

He could have gone lower.

IF there is contact with the WR head/helmet (I cant tell, but I dont have NFL angles) then certainly worthy of a penalty and fine.

IF its just a devastating hit delivered from a shoulder pad to a torso... then its clean with no foul. Unless the QB should be fined!

 

[WOW6616]

Violent head shots should result in immediate ejection from the game and a mandatory 1 game suspension, if upon further review the hit can be deemed as "especially malicious" (such as the Harrison hit on Massaquoi IMO, Harrison stating in post game interview 'I try to hurt people') and/or the player receiving the hit misses an extended amount of time as a direct result of the hit, games suspended could be increased.

Now don't get me wrong I feel that the Dunta Robinson hit on Desean Jackson was a clean hard hit, any helmet to helmet contact was purely incidental he lead with his shoulder and hit Jackson in just about the only place you can hit someone that hard and not end their career. If you hit a player with extreme force in the knees you could cause a career ending injury, if you hit them with violent force in the midsection you can cause serious damage to internal organs, Dunta in a spit second targeted the best place to hit DeSean Jackson without killing him. This is a violent game it always will be, the question is, will someone die on the field as the result of a player who intentionally tries to hurt people? If nothing changes the answer is yes.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[NinerFan49]

#### happens at the speed the game is played.

All the more reason to try to make sure those high speed collisions don't end up taking place on someone's head.

Stop the ball carrier from running forward (blindly) with their helmets at waist level. Either drop your shoulder or get on the ground.

Either way, they should protect themselves.

Do you really think LeSean Jackson was in a position to "try to protect himself"? Kinda hard to do when you're stretching out to try to catch a pass.

He had caught the pass. http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4749/dsj1.pngHe was starting to run with the ball. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9282/dsj2.png

Truth? The QUARTERBACK got his WR DEVASTATED.

But... The defender does have his helmet at neck/head level when the blow is delievered.

He could have gone lower.

IF there is contact with the WR head/helmet (I cant tell, but I dont have NFL angles) then certainly worthy of a penalty and fine.

IF its just a devastating hit delivered from a shoulder pad to a torso... then its clean with no foul. Unless the QB should be fined!

Hmmm. I thought Jackson was still in the process of catching the ball when he was hit... but I may be wrong about that (those photos do make it seem that way). Still, Robinson should be penalized... because even if his intent wasn't to deliver a helmet-to-helmet hit, that was the result of aiming for an area so close to the head... Kind of like how people can be found guilty of criminally negligent manslaughter if they commit a reckless act that results in someone being killed... Even if they didn't intend to kill...

That pass being high did contribute to the problem. But I'm not sure that I'd put the blame for that on Kolb. If memory serves, he was hit (not hard, but still... jostled, at least) just as he released the pass.

 

[NinerFan49]

Violent head shots should result in immediate ejection from the game and a mandatory 1 game suspension, if upon further review the hit can be deemed as "especially malicious" (such as the Harrison hit on Massaquoi IMO, Harrison stating in post game interview 'I try to hurt people') and/or the player receiving the hit misses an extended amount of time as a direct result of the hit, games suspended could be increased.Now don't get me wrong I feel that the Dunta Robinson hit on Desean Jackson was a clean hard hit, any helmet to helmet contact was purely incidental he lead with his shoulder and hit Jackson in just about the only place you can hit someone that hard and not end their career. If you hit a player with extreme force in the knees you could cause a career ending injury, if you hit them with violent force in the midsection you can cause serious damage to internal organs, Dunta in a spit second targeted the best place to hit DeSean Jackson without killing him. This is a violent game it always will be, the question is, will someone die on the field as the result of a player who intentionally tries to hurt people? If nothing changes the answer is yes.Just my 2 cents.

You're probably right that Robinson didn't mean to hurt Jackson. But I think the practice of launching vicious hits at an area close to a ball carrier's head is too dangerous... and should be penalized in order to discourage hits that have a high likelihood of striking the head.

 

[Truman]

Violent head shots should result in immediate ejection from the game and a mandatory 1 game suspension, if upon further review the hit can be deemed as "especially malicious" (such as the Harrison hit on Massaquoi IMO, Harrison stating in post game interview 'I try to hurt people') and/or the player receiving the hit misses an extended amount of time as a direct result of the hit, games suspended could be increased.Now don't get me wrong I feel that the Dunta Robinson hit on Desean Jackson was a clean hard hit, any helmet to helmet contact was purely incidental he lead with his shoulder and hit Jackson in just about the only place you can hit someone that hard and not end their career. If you hit a player with extreme force in the knees you could cause a career ending injury, if you hit them with violent force in the midsection you can cause serious damage to internal organs, Dunta in a spit second targeted the best place to hit DeSean Jackson without killing him. This is a violent game it always will be, the question is, will someone die on the field as the result of a player who intentionally tries to hurt people? If nothing changes the answer is yes.Just my 2 cents.

You're probably right that Robinson didn't mean to hurt Jackson. But I think the practice of launching vicious hits at an area close to a ball carrier's head is too dangerous... and should be penalized in order to discourage hits that have a high likelihood of striking the head.

Where is he supposed to hit him? He hit him across the torso. You can't penalize a guy for tackling too hard.

 

[CalBear]

Where is he supposed to hit him? He hit him across the torso. You can't penalize a guy for tackling too hard.

All he has to do is not lead with his helmet. If he keeps his head up it's a legal tackle, Philly has fourth down and no one gets hurt.

 

[NinerFan49]

Where is he supposed to hit him? He hit him across the torso. You can't penalize a guy for tackling too hard.

He aimed for a spot high on the torso, too close to the head. And we saw how that turned out...

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Violent head shots should result in immediate ejection from the game and a mandatory 1 game suspension, if upon further review the hit can be deemed as "especially malicious" (such as the Harrison hit on Massaquoi IMO, Harrison stating in post game interview 'I try to hurt people') and/or the player receiving the hit misses an extended amount of time as a direct result of the hit, games suspended could be increased.

Now don't get me wrong I feel that the Dunta Robinson hit on Desean Jackson was a clean hard hit, any helmet to helmet contact was purely incidental he lead with his shoulder and hit Jackson in just about the only place you can hit someone that hard and not end their career. If you hit a player with extreme force in the knees you could cause a career ending injury, if you hit them with violent force in the midsection you can cause serious damage to internal organs, Dunta in a spit second targeted the best place to hit DeSean Jackson without killing him. This is a violent game it always will be, the question is, will someone die on the field as the result of a player who intentionally tries to hurt people? If nothing changes the answer is yes.

Just my 2 cents.

You're probably right that Robinson didn't mean to hurt Jackson. But I think the practice of launching vicious hits at an area close to a ball carrier's head is too dangerous... and should be penalized in order to discourage hits that have a high likelihood of striking the head.

Where is he supposed to hit him? He hit him across the torso. You can't penalize a guy for tackling too hard.

apparently you can

luckily for dunta he did this week, next week he'd be suspended

 

[delusional]

Where is he supposed to hit him? He hit him across the torso. You can't penalize a guy for tackling too hard.

All he has to do is not lead with his helmet. If he keeps his head up it's a legal tackle, Philly has fourth down and no one gets hurt.

I been coaching my pee wee team to lead with their butt. Hasn't worked out too tell, many missed tackles. As for the week 7 policy, i am surprised the NFL is able to get away with adding new rules in mid season.

 

[delusional]

Hmmm. I thought Jackson was still in the process of catching the ball when he was hit... but I may be wrong about that (those photos do make it seem that way).

Still, Robinson should be penalized... because even if his intent wasn't to deliver a helmet-to-helmet hit, that was the result of aiming for an area so close to the head... Kind of like how people can be found guilty of criminally negligent manslaughter if they commit a reckless act that results in someone being killed... Even if they didn't intend to kill...

That pass being high did contribute to the problem. But I'm not sure that I'd put the blame for that on Kolb. If memory serves, he was hit (not hard, but still... jostled, at least) just as he released the pass.

Jackson isnt the tallest WR on the field...or player for that matter. Robinson was crotched pretty well for a player that was moving. For the bold....he hit in him the shoulder/chest area....the largest area to hit on a WR...

 

[NinerFan49]

Hmmm. I thought Jackson was still in the process of catching the ball when he was hit... but I may be wrong about that (those photos do make it seem that way).

Still, Robinson should be penalized... because even if his intent wasn't to deliver a helmet-to-helmet hit, that was the result of aiming for an area so close to the head... Kind of like how people can be found guilty of criminally negligent manslaughter if they commit a reckless act that results in someone being killed... Even if they didn't intend to kill...

That pass being high did contribute to the problem. But I'm not sure that I'd put the blame for that on Kolb. If memory serves, he was hit (not hard, but still... jostled, at least) just as he released the pass.

Jackson isnt the tallest WR on the field...or player for that matter. Robinson was crotched pretty well for a player that was moving. For the bold....he hit in him the shoulder/chest area....the largest area to hit on a WR...

He hit him in the shoulder/chest area... and then his helmet hit Jackson's. Which didn't work out well for either of them. I'm guessing that if Robinson had to do it again, he wouldn't aim for the same area.

 

[Late225]

There's definitely been a severe increase in concussion injuries this season. Is it because they're more or less being forced to report them now?