did you read my post? I specifically mentioned LT as an example. The question is: If the season ended today, who would be MVP? And I really doubt that if the season ended today, and SD didn't make the playoffs, that he'd be MVP of the league.LT.. San Diego isn't as bad as their record implies...
Sorry. Apparently I'm not the only guy. 3 people have voted for Vick. This is the MVP poll.did you read my post? I specifically mentioned LT as an example. The question is: If the season ended today, who would be MVP? And I really doubt that if the season ended today, and SD didn't make the playoffs, that he'd be MVP of the league.LT.. San Diego isn't as bad as their record implies...
Since you're the second person to say that I'll ask: Has an MVP of the league ever come from a non-playoff team?LT2
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Cadillacthey stunk last year, he rejuvenated them. Big props to Brooks and some others but the new face gave them some pep.Holy ####! My mailbox was stuffed- 557 requests for this poll!
He must have been rejunivating them from the sidelines the last three weeks. If you haven't noticed, Pittman has had the same success as well. Maybe we need a Pittman option.CadillacHoly ####! My mailbox was stuffed- 557 requests for this poll!
they stunk last year, he rejuvenated them. Big props to Brooks and some others but the new face gave them some pep.
has anyone ever scored 30+ TD's in a season? you asked who i would vote for not who do i think would win...and i would vote for LT2 right nowshaun alexander and LT2 neck and neck right now with chad johnson, drew bledsoe, and donovan mcnabb just behind themSince you're the second person to say that I'll ask: Has an MVP of the league ever come from a non-playoff team?LT2
he's sick right now
i'd vote for chad johnson before carson palmerI voted Palmer.
6 games: 143 of 197 for 1573yds, 13tds, 2ints, and a league leading 72.6 completion percentage.
Projected totals: 4192yds, 33tds, 5ints
And most importantly, his team is 5-1 going into week 7.
Hes making good decisions and rising to the challenge each week, and hes spreading the ball around.. His biggest test so far comes this week vs the Steelers, and I think hell do fine and post his average per game numbers : about 260yds, 2tds, and maybe an INT.
This guy is good.
No. I asked who you would vote for with one stipulation: It has to come from a current playoff team.has anyone ever scored 30+ TD's in a season? you asked who i would vote for not who do i think would win...and i would vote for LT2 right nowshaun alexander and LT2 neck and neck right now with chad johnson, drew bledsoe, and donovan mcnabb just behind themSince you're the second person to say that I'll ask: Has an MVP of the league ever come from a non-playoff team?LT2
he's sick right now
interesting point. So far Palmer has 9 votes, while CJ has zero.Does everyone really think that Palmer is the key here and not CJ?i'd vote for chad johnson before carson palmerI voted Palmer.
6 games: 143 of 197 for 1573yds, 13tds, 2ints, and a league leading 72.6 completion percentage.
Projected totals: 4192yds, 33tds, 5ints
And most importantly, his team is 5-1 going into week 7.
Hes making good decisions and rising to the challenge each week, and hes spreading the ball around.. His biggest test so far comes this week vs the Steelers, and I think hell do fine and post his average per game numbers : about 260yds, 2tds, and maybe an INT.
This guy is good.
fair point, that he hasn't been there. I think his presence rujevenated that team. You think if he was never there that Pittman would have led the NFL in rushing after the first few weeks like Caddy did? Well...to each his ownHe must have been rejunivating them from the sidelines the last three weeks. If you haven't noticed, Pittman has had the same success as well. Maybe we need a Pittman option.CadillacHoly ####! My mailbox was stuffed- 557 requests for this poll!
they stunk last year, he rejuvenated them. Big props to Brooks and some others but the new face gave them some pep.
Again, please read my stipulation. Since I couldn't include any players from current non-playoff teams, I could not include him. Trust me, as a Skins homer, he was one of the first players I thought of. But I guess I'm just ignorantSantana Moss not being on this poll is plain ignorant.
I realize that I said no players from non-playoff teams, but I'm just curious...since many seem to be ignoring that rule and bringing up LT2, why isn't McNabb getting more love?My boy Carson.
I honestly can only see LT2, SA, and Carson as the only three worthy candidates so far.
The Skins are as much of a playoff team as the Chiefs.I realize that I said no players from non-playoff teams, but I'm just curious...since many seem to be ignoring that rule and bringing up LT2, why isn't McNabb getting more love?My boy Carson.
I honestly can only see LT2, SA, and Carson as the only three worthy candidates so far.
Yeah, I forgot about him. He's in the mix too.Edge with colts defense a close 2nd
The Robert Mathis/Dwight Freeny combo is definately making waves so far.Combined they have 36 tackles, 12 sacks, and 7 forced fumbles after 6 weeks.Indy defensive unit.
I'd say it's the combination, but how many WRs have won the MVP?Palmer gets my vote for now, but LT will win it (I understand why he's not included)interesting point. So far Palmer has 9 votes, while CJ has zero.Does everyone really think that Palmer is the key here and not CJ?i'd vote for chad johnson before carson palmerI voted Palmer.
6 games: 143 of 197 for 1573yds, 13tds, 2ints, and a league leading 72.6 completion percentage.
Projected totals: 4192yds, 33tds, 5ints
And most importantly, his team is 5-1 going into week 7.
Hes making good decisions and rising to the challenge each week, and hes spreading the ball around.. His biggest test so far comes this week vs the Steelers, and I think hell do fine and post his average per game numbers : about 260yds, 2tds, and maybe an INT.
This guy is good.
PFW's MVP Meter:This is such a loaded question. If it's who would the be VOTED the MVP as of this week (or with a similar end result to the season), I suspect that the MVP would be Manning (they would be undefeated and historically the league MVP has been a QB like 70% of the time).
As for listing who the playoff teams would be, the list is total hogwash. The Patriots are not on the list because they are 0-0 in their divisiona. So the Pats don't make the playoffs because they have not played a divisional game yet.
Manning's not on the list. He's not winning MVP this year.1. Bengals QB Carson Palmer (3)
2. Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson (2)
3. Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (4)
4. Patriots QB Tom Brady (1)
5. Colts DE Dwight Freeney (5)
6. Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (6)
7. Colts RB Edgerrin James (7)
8. Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck (8)
9. Packers QB Brett Favre (10)
10. Panthers WR Steve Smith (—)
Call me if the Colts go 16-0 (which is extremely unlikely). I don't think Manning is the MVP either, but if he leads them to an undefeated season with their upcoming schedule, he will do a lot more production wise than he has so far.I suspect that if the Pats right the ship and Brady continues to carry the team, he would get it based on his prior success without recognition (sort of like a lifetime achievement award) provided they have a long winning streak.PFW's MVP Meter:This is such a loaded question. If it's who would the be VOTED the MVP as of this week (or with a similar end result to the season), I suspect that the MVP would be Manning (they would be undefeated and historically the league MVP has been a QB like 70% of the time).
As for listing who the playoff teams would be, the list is total hogwash. The Patriots are not on the list because they are 0-0 in their divisiona. So the Pats don't make the playoffs because they have not played a divisional game yet.Manning's not on the list. He's not winning MVP this year.1. Bengals QB Carson Palmer (3)
2. Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson (2)
3. Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (4)
4. Patriots QB Tom Brady (1)
5. Colts DE Dwight Freeney (5)
6. Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (6)
7. Colts RB Edgerrin James (7)
8. Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck (8)
9. Packers QB Brett Favre (10)
10. Panthers WR Steve Smith (—)
No, they won't make the playoffs because they're not very good.So the Pats don't make the playoffs because they have not played a divisional game yet.
FWIW, If the Colts go 16-0, and their D keeps rolling after the speed bump that was the Rams, one could argue for Corey Simon. No chance, but an argument could be made.Call me if the Colts go 16-0 (which is extremely unlikely). I don't think Manning is the MVP either, but if he leads them to an undefeated season with their upcoming schedule, he will do a lot more production wise than he has so far.I suspect that if the Pats right the ship and Brady continues to carry the team, he would get it based on his prior success without recognition (sort of like a lifetime achievement award) provided they have a long winning streak.PFW's MVP Meter:This is such a loaded question. If it's who would the be VOTED the MVP as of this week (or with a similar end result to the season), I suspect that the MVP would be Manning (they would be undefeated and historically the league MVP has been a QB like 70% of the time).
As for listing who the playoff teams would be, the list is total hogwash. The Patriots are not on the list because they are 0-0 in their divisiona. So the Pats don't make the playoffs because they have not played a divisional game yet.Manning's not on the list. He's not winning MVP this year.1. Bengals QB Carson Palmer (3)
2. Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson (2)
3. Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (4)
4. Patriots QB Tom Brady (1)
5. Colts DE Dwight Freeney (5)
6. Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (6)
7. Colts RB Edgerrin James (7)
8. Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck (8)
9. Packers QB Brett Favre (10)
10. Panthers WR Steve Smith (—)
As for the list, the world would need to explode for a DE to win, and even Holmes didn't win it with the record breaking seasons he's had, so it would take an uber season by a RB and no great seasons by a QB for a RB to win. And no WR has ever won MVP, so I can't see Smith having a chance.
Though I understand your point, Corey Simon would be no higher than 5th in the Colts team defensive MVP vote, behind Freeney, Bob Sanders, Robert Mathis and Cato June.FWIW, If the Colts go 16-0, and their D keeps rolling after the speed bump that was the Rams, one could argue for Corey Simon. No chance, but an argument could be made.Call me if the Colts go 16-0 (which is extremely unlikely). I don't think Manning is the MVP either, but if he leads them to an undefeated season with their upcoming schedule, he will do a lot more production wise than he has so far.I suspect that if the Pats right the ship and Brady continues to carry the team, he would get it based on his prior success without recognition (sort of like a lifetime achievement award) provided they have a long winning streak.PFW's MVP Meter:This is such a loaded question. If it's who would the be VOTED the MVP as of this week (or with a similar end result to the season), I suspect that the MVP would be Manning (they would be undefeated and historically the league MVP has been a QB like 70% of the time).
As for listing who the playoff teams would be, the list is total hogwash. The Patriots are not on the list because they are 0-0 in their divisiona. So the Pats don't make the playoffs because they have not played a divisional game yet.Manning's not on the list. He's not winning MVP this year.1. Bengals QB Carson Palmer (3)
2. Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson (2)
3. Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (4)
4. Patriots QB Tom Brady (1)
5. Colts DE Dwight Freeney (5)
6. Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (6)
7. Colts RB Edgerrin James (7)
8. Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck (8)
9. Packers QB Brett Favre (10)
10. Panthers WR Steve Smith (—)
As for the list, the world would need to explode for a DE to win, and even Holmes didn't win it with the record breaking seasons he's had, so it would take an uber season by a RB and no great seasons by a QB for a RB to win. And no WR has ever won MVP, so I can't see Smith having a chance.
Another vote for LT2. This poll sux. You do not include LT2 because his team is just outside playoff contention in your mind but Thomas Jones of the Bears make it with their 2 wins because their division is bad? Makes no sense.
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