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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Charles Woodson
Polar Dude
Footballguy
Rivers
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
The regular season was over 2 weeks ago for the Colts while Woodson and others played. It would be a crime IMO to give it to Manning who played in 14 games compared to some of the others. I respect that the Colts took care of business and had the option to rest players, but they need to be aware that choosing that option comes with consequences. They lost the chance to go undefeated and turned Peyton Manning from the front runner of the MVP to a guy who finishes 3rd IMO. Send the message that EVERY GAME COUNTS. If you give that MVP to Manning, don't even bother looking into the problem of resting players.Charles Woodson is your man!
Jimmy James
Footballguy
I voted Johnson since the question was who I got.
I think the awards will very possibly go to Rivers. I see him as having traction over Rodgers (perhaps Rodgers would get a sort of pro-Favre penalty somehow). I think what the Colts did sinks it for Manning and the way the Saints folded kills it for Brees.
I think the awards will very possibly go to Rivers. I see him as having traction over Rodgers (perhaps Rodgers would get a sort of pro-Favre penalty somehow). I think what the Colts did sinks it for Manning and the way the Saints folded kills it for Brees.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I really like Chris Johnson but I need to be sold on why his team who was only average this year at best should be MVP? I understand that they wouldn't be average without him, they'd be bad but when I think of MVP, I really don't think of a guy who plays on that kind of team. I think if the Titans were in the wild card or division champs then he'd have a shot, I really don't think it's because he's not a QB.I know he achieved 2000 yards, how have the other guys who earned 2000 faired in the MVP vote and what records did those teams have those years those Rb's got 2000 yards?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
BTW, nobody listened to me the year Charles Woodson won the Heisman Trophy either. They said a defenseman never wins the Heisman until the man in Maze and Blue was holding up the award.To me, there's about 4 QB's who all played about the same when considering everything. You telling me Rivers outplayed Manning, or Manning outplayed Rodgers etc....they all did fine and all have their drawbacks.Charles Woodson......at the end of the Green Bay game, they introduced him in front of the team in the lockeroom for tying or breaking the franchise record for INT's after he picked one off and returned it to the house today and the entire team chanted MVP, MVP, MVP.IT wasn't Aaron Rodgers they were chanting for, it was Charles Woodson. The guy played lights out all season long, give it to the defense!
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Sure, he's lumped in there with all the other QB's who played just about the same, even throw Tony Romo in there if you want. Charles Woodson
jojoh07
Footballguy
Would u put favre ahead of any of those candidates ? and if so which ?
FUBAR
Footballguy
I know it's not broken down like this, but the Titans were one of the top teams the last 10 games of the season. I also agree with you as far as how voters will likely vote that record counts. All I'm saying is he was the best player this year and made the biggest difference for his team. Granted, I'm a homer.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
If you break the yards from scrimmage record and are one of six backs in history to run for 2000 yards, I think you should be MVP.
FUBAR
Footballguy
He makes a fair point, Favre will get many votes. Hell, if there's any backlash against the Colts for weeks 16 and 17, he just may win it.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Id probably put him in for this year over Rodgers for the MVP based on beating GB twice and winning the division.Though...both should be talked about...but both should be behind Manning and Rivers and Johnson.
jonessed
Footballguy
I don't see what his age has to do with anything. And no, it's between Rivers, Peyton, and Johnson. Favre and Brees are out due to their end of the season losses.Manning is likely to get it, but I think all three are pretty deserving.
RC94
Footballguy
I agree with this and I think MVP should come from a team that makes the playoffs.IMO Chris Johnson is offensive player of the year, though. 2,000 yards rushing is a great accomplishment.
I think his age is a consideration, just the same reason why people will say CJ won't win it because his team didn't make the playoffs.Sure 2.5 of his last 4 games the team didn't do well, but he turned the team from good to really good.He's ahead of Rodgers and Rivers for sure.
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Jimmy James
Footballguy
I don't see Favre or Brees getting rewarded for collapses. I think that if Rivers, Johnson, and Rodgers are not palatable choices, Manning is the more likely winner among candidates with late season problems. At least you can argue that Manning had nothing to play for (and indeed was out of the game).
Gopher State
Footballguy
This poll is flawed you need to add Favre because:
His 33 touchdown passes are the most since his MVP years in the mid-1990s while a member of the Packers. His 107.2 quarterback rating marked the first time he'd exceeded 100 for a season in his career while his 68.4% completion percentage is also a personal best. His 4,202 passing yards were the third-most in his career, and he's now 671 shy of becoming the first NFL quarterback to reach 70,000 passing yards.
His 33 touchdown passes are the most since his MVP years in the mid-1990s while a member of the Packers. His 107.2 quarterback rating marked the first time he'd exceeded 100 for a season in his career while his 68.4% completion percentage is also a personal best. His 4,202 passing yards were the third-most in his career, and he's now 671 shy of becoming the first NFL quarterback to reach 70,000 passing yards.
sho nuff
Footballguy
And he would still be behind Rivers and Manning for sure...Johnson as well IMO.Brees IMO hurt himself too much the last 2 months.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Manning
Everyone else.
Everyone else.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Darrelle Revis. He obviously won't win, but he deserves his name in the discussion IMO.
Childress
Footballguy
If Chris Johnson doesn't win this award they should simply change the name to QB of the year award. Peyton deserves it if in a big way but CJ broke the yards from scrimmage record, end of discussion.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Faulk (who held the YFS record) didn't win the year he broke the record. It has nothing to do with QB vs. RB. The Titans were .500 and finished 3rd in their division. Wins and losses matter in MVP balloting.
ArcticEdge
Footballguy
Favre
TD passes:Brees 34(1st) > FavreQB Rating:Brees 109.6(1st) > FavreComp %:Brees 70.6(1st) > Favre - Brees broke the recordYards:Brees 4388(6th) > Favre Favre bettered Brees in 0 of the stats you stated as reasons Favre should win MVP. It never ceases to amaze me how short the memory of NFL fans are. I figure its the length of time between games, too much time to think. Brees had the best season(edit to add among QBs), from week 1 to week 17(16 in this case).CJ had the best season, but won't win.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
These threads always get hazy as people debate two things simultaneously.
There's the debate of who SHOULD win the MVP, in which case I understand plenty of passionate views for a host of players.
Then there's the discussion of who WILL win the MVP, in which case I think history tells us the short list is just that - short.
I have a hard time believing Manning hasn't sewn this up, but we'll see soon enough.
There's the debate of who SHOULD win the MVP, in which case I understand plenty of passionate views for a host of players.
Then there's the discussion of who WILL win the MVP, in which case I think history tells us the short list is just that - short.
I have a hard time believing Manning hasn't sewn this up, but we'll see soon enough.
Comp %:Brees > ManningYPA:Brees > ManningTD %:Brees > ManningINT %:Brees > Manning
jojoh07
Footballguy
You would be wrong . he is added now
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ScottyFargo
Footballguy
I know they probably don't take into consideration records broken (Lifetime TDs, games started, etc, etc.) but if they did, I would think that would put Favre closer to Brees / Manning as far as the discussion. I don't understand how Rodgers' name would be mentioned before Favre's, however.
DVOA:Rivers > Brady > Brees > ManningDYAR:Brady > Manning > Rivers > BreesFumbles Lost: Manning: 0, Brees 6
Tau837
Footballguy
Woodson has not even been the most valuable player at his position. Revis has been better this season.
ArcticEdge
Footballguy
Brett Favre
Tau837
Footballguy
IMO the problem for Johnson is that the team was 0-6 before Young took over. It could easily be argued that Young was the Titans' MVP, which IMO precludes Johnson from being league MVP.
Tau837
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
yea i'm a Cowboys homer, but i think Romo should at least be in the mix.
great TD/INT ratio and his INT's have mostly been deflections, not bad passes.
NFC East crown.
most yards from scrimmage in Cowboys history.
if you have watched the games, you've seen he has become the leader his team has needed.
he may not quite have the numbers but he's as valuable to his team as any of the others this season.
great TD/INT ratio and his INT's have mostly been deflections, not bad passes.
NFC East crown.
most yards from scrimmage in Cowboys history.
if you have watched the games, you've seen he has become the leader his team has needed.
he may not quite have the numbers but he's as valuable to his team as any of the others this season.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Manning.
The Colts went 14-0 when he played the entire game. I think his team is #### without him.
The Colts went 14-0 when he played the entire game. I think his team is #### without him.
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None_More_Black
Footballguy
The issue is yards from scrimmage record AND 2000 yards rushing. May never be done again, who knows. MVP no doubt.Faulk (who held the YFS record) didn't win the year he broke the record. It has nothing to do with QB vs. RB. The Titans were .500 and finished 3rd in their division. Wins and losses matter in MVP balloting.If Chris Johnson doesn't win this award they should simply change the name to QB of the year award. Peyton deserves it if in a big way but CJ broke the yards from scrimmage record, end of discussion.
EBF
Footballguy
Johnson had a great year, but you can't be the MVP if your team doesn't even make the playoffs.
A great QB is worth a lot more than a great RB. I think Manning is the easy selection here because his team was one of the best in the league almost entirely because of him. Take him away from that team and they don't sniff the playoffs. The same is probably true of Rivers and Brees, but I think they have a little more talent around them than Manning does.
A great QB is worth a lot more than a great RB. I think Manning is the easy selection here because his team was one of the best in the league almost entirely because of him. Take him away from that team and they don't sniff the playoffs. The same is probably true of Rivers and Brees, but I think they have a little more talent around them than Manning does.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Chris Johnson is the first 2,000 yard rusher to play for a team that did not not make the playoffs.Faulk (who held the YFS record) didn't win the year he broke the record. It has nothing to do with QB vs. RB. The Titans were .500 and finished 3rd in their division. Wins and losses matter in MVP balloting.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
ArcticEdge
Footballguy
Brett Favre
