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NFL Player's Union...Would Goodell be more strict on penalties? (1 Viewer)

Maybe the NFL should take a hint from the auto industry. They could stop putting any effort into producing products that people want, blame the union when no one buys their products, and whine to the government for a bailout. It is not coincidental that the same people who run the Detroit Lions run the auto industry.
Why am I not suprised that you are from Berkeley, California?
Now for off-topic:1. AtomicDogg - implying that everyone from Berkeley is a "wacky liberal" is no different than implying that everyone from the midwest is a fat, ignorant tub of inbred white trash. Both implications are insulting generalizations. I would appreciate it if, in the future, you could refrain from such small-minded bigotry.And yes, I also went to Berkeley.
 
Unions served their purpose 100 years ago. Today most do nothing more than encourage sloth and leech off their host companies like some kind of parasite.To address to orginal post, yes, the NFL Player's Union does negatively affect the sport. Players today get away with far more damaging behavior than they ever would have been able to in years past. Individual accountability has been significantly reduced.
Good thing those pesky unions account for less than 10% of the workforce now. How are we supposed to get rich without cheap products and cheap labor? As long as the average wage keeps going down my profits keep going up up up! That's my motto, get rich standing on the back of the average laborer, and break their backs if at all possible. Keeps them in line./sarcasmIf the OP didn't want to make this a FFA discussion, the title and inherent bias and contempt of organized labor should have not been included.Claiming unions are not needed anymore is pretty shortsighted. Blaming the demise of American auto companies on the UAW is incredibly shortsighted. You don't understand the historical context of corporations and labor.What's next, are you going to claim that civil rights are no longer needed since slaves were freed over 100 years ago? I must have missed how African Americans were instantly treated equally and cross burnings and lynchings no longer happen. The chance for an honest discussion of the NFL and the NFLPA is not possible in this thread now. Don't insult me by spitting in my soup and then feigning outrage when I ask for a different bowl.
 
On topic: I think DRDR makes a very valid point players' unions negatively affecting the sport. Case in point - the MLBPA's (baseball player union) behavior at the height of the steroid scandal. If you recall, several of the players being implicated as having used steroids wanted to submit to urine tests in order to clear their good names. The MLBPA, however, told the players that they were not permitted to test voluntarily. Their reasoning? If a few of the players volunteered, the media would then go to other (guilty) players who had been implicated and ask them why THEY hadn't done a voluntary test.Would it have been fair for the media to demand urine tests from everyone? Of course not, but the union shouldn't have been there, telling athletes that they couldn't clear their names.The situation with Burress, Pacman, etc. is obviously a different animal altogether, but that doesn't change the fact that unions should be closely scrutinized for their actions in protecting their poorly behaved constituents as well as their model members.
Very good postingI completely forgot about MLB too
 
I've lost the actual point of this thread w/ the editing, but here is my response based on what I think you are looking for.

The NFL players have less locked in money than other pro sports. You can be cut at any time and the only thing you are getting for sure is your signing bonus. The average NFL career is three years. Look at the NFL players from the 60's and 70's. Their quality of life due to health problems is not pretty. There are 1700 or so active NFL players, and 10 make the news. The union serves it's purpose.

The NFL is the most profitable American pro sports league for the owners. The union is their to help protect player safety and ensure equitable outcomes for its members. This is what unions are for.

I'm sure Goddell wants a great image for the NFL. What company does not want this? If I do things away from work, I don't think I'd be suspended, fined, or fired. Why should we treat NFL players differently.

DRDR- If you want an honest opinion, try not to use words that get people fired up on other topics or try to slant the question. Why use the term "ghetto thug"?

 
What percentage of other businesses have a zero tolerance policy in regards to "ghetto fab" lifestlye?
What percentage of other businesses are at the forefront of the daily news? What percentage of other businesses have thier employees lives plastered in the news? What percentage of businesses have a personal conduct policy as a direct result of the previous 2 questions?The NFL holds itself, or tries to hold itself to a higher standard. They expect their players to represent the NFL on and off the field. When they fail to do so penalties are put down on the players. Since the threat of the penalties are clearly not enough to keep the players from doing these things, maybe harsher penalties should be put in place. This is where the NFL union comes in. They most likely won't allow this, and it's a shame because the NFL could clean up real fast.
When players are found guilty of breaking United States law....don't they suffer in the NFL? Alleged criminal behavior shouldn't be grounds for suspension or dismissal.
 

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