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NFL trade deadline: trades that make sense (1 Viewer)

GregR

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The NFL trade deadline is Oct 28th. Though odds are there won't be (m)any trades that doesn't mean it isn't fun to discuss possibilities.

What are some trades that you think would be win-win for NFL teams, or who are some tradeable players whose situation (contract, performance, current team's depth at the position, other team needs at the position) makes them potentially trade worthy?

I'll start it out with:

Antone Smith, RB Falcons. 13-126-2 rushing, 10-220-3 receiving = 5 touchdowns in 23 touches.

All this guy does is score from distance again and again on limited touches. The Falcons don't seem to want to give him a bigger piece of the workload. He is a 28 year old RB in the final year of a cheap contract that would only create $32k of dead money if traded. The Falcons have depth at the position that they apparently like enough to not give Smith more touches. And Atlanta is 31st in team defense so there is plenty of room for them to pick up a player who could contribute there, or just get a late pick for a player who after the season might walk as a UFA looking for an opportunity he might get more touches after the stellar 2014 he's having.

Some possible trade partners... San Diego, who are light at RB though Branden Oliver has looked decent so far. Denver might be a longer shot but with Smith's ability to break short passes into long plays that could be an interesting pairing with Manning. Carolina could use another weapon, period, and have been thin at RB even if their fans might groan at the thought of adding another. New England is also short on weapons at the moment and just lost Ridley.

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.
Mike Williams already asking for a trade but GL with that Mike.

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.
I'll preface it by saying I don't think there will be many if any trades, but Jarrett Boykin to the Giants would make sense because GB has depth there and he'd coming in being at least somewhat familiar with the offense since McAdoo came over from GB.

 
After the Patriots lost Jerod Mayo to a knee injury, it would make TON of sense for them to deal a mid round pick to Tampa Bay to bring back Dane Fletcher (he's an UFA after this season anyways).

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.
Mike Williams already asking for a trade but GL with that Mike.
Next tweet I looked at:

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak 1m1 minute ago

Mike Williams did not receive a single rep in today’s Bills practice, source says.

Not that that means there's a trade coming... likely there won't be any this season. But still interesting.

 
Agree with the CJ Spiller suggestion.

Guy is wasting away like no other and he will be gone next year so why not trade him and get something in return?

But that would make too much sense for the Bills to pull off.

(And no, I don't own him in either of my leagues)

 
I'd be curious to know if there are even any trade discussions that take place among teams during the season. With extensive play books it's not like other sports where you can just essentially rent a player for a playoff run, it takes a lot of learning and reps to get timing down and be able to fit in.

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.
Been thinking the Raiders could ship out D. Moore. Seems like they have other guys they like and Moore has shown ability. Not sure learning a complicated offense like NE would be a great idea but could see someone giving a late pick

 
Lot of RBBC's that could toss someone away to a team looking for an RB. Baltimore, STL, Cleveland, Carolina (not that any of them are healthy lol), etc. Depends what the HC's intend to do.

 
Cecil Shorts to the Giants? Would be a capable Cruz replacement, and allow more playing time for the Jags' developing receivers.

Eagles need RB depth with Sproles and Polk out - how about Antone Smith? Surely Chip Kelly could find a way to better utilize his playmaking ability.

 
The Bengals never really do player for player trades but they're likely hurting badly at LB for several weeks. Meanwhile, they have stacks upon stacks of corners who would start for most teams.

It might actually be realistic to trade for LB/DT but I'm sure the Bengals would rather offer late picks up.

 
Can anyone think of any teams deep at WR that might have someone tradeable that a team like the Giants could pursue a trade with? I like some of Arizona's younger receivers but not sure they would realistically want to part with any of them with Fitz around that age he may drop off.
Louis Murphy is a no-brainer here since he spent last summer(year ago) with the Giants. He was the try hard guy while some rested on their laurels and their most productive WR.

I remember Cruz being shocked he was cut at the last moment.

He did about the same thing in Tampa, effort wise this past summer. He didn't play or barely played til a few weeks ago. He had 6 catches for 99 yards in like a quarter and a half. Then a real decent game. Then 3 for 30ish and a TD.

I like any veteran that works his tail off and accepts demotion then goes in and gets it done when he gets a chance and.....he might be an average WR on gameday, but he seems to get it done when someone isn't like VJax or Randle year before.

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There were rumors that weren't defined all too hard as baseless, that Justin Hunter was available via trade. I didn't much care for his attitude the summer of his rookie year, but have become a huge fan since. I would be very upset if the Titans let him go. I think he's easily worth a first

 
I'm displeased with the Titans switch to 3-4 and playing two DEs at LB. They have one OLB on the roster and will surely spend next offseason getting some. `Derrick Morgan is a very good DE. He's shown great athleticism playing OLB but he looks just like Kiwi did when he switched-a sweet play here n there but for the most part it's just not his spot.

Titans have one OLB on the roster who isn't active some gamedays. They surely have to spend next offseason adding some.

I haven't noticed him on the DL much when they go 4-3 and am a little annoyed he's still at OLB then.

He's a very good player that seems to not fit the new coach's system. I imagine there's plenty of teams that would be all too happy to have him be a DE in their 4-3.

 
Cecil Shorts to the Giants? Would be a capable Cruz replacement, and allow more playing time for the Jags' developing receivers.

Eagles need RB depth with Sproles and Polk out - how about Antone Smith? Surely Chip Kelly could find a way to better utilize his playmaking ability.
His hamstring would give Coughlin nightmares

 
After the Patriots lost Jerod Mayo to a knee injury, it would make TON of sense for them to deal a mid round pick to Tampa Bay to bring back Dane Fletcher (he's an UFA after this season anyways).
Leave Dane Flethcer where he is. I own Hightower and Collins and want to see both these guys on the field (and making tackles) as much as possible. Quit trying to move your (16 team) starting linebacker into a starting position. It's already filled. Now go away!

 
Probably not going to happen but with Sims possibly returning from IR, I'd like to see Doug Martin moved. He might do better if he got a second chance elsewhere, while Sims and Rainey carry the load in TB.

 
Probably not going to happen but with Sims possibly returning from IR, I'd like to see Doug Martin moved. He might do better if he got a second chance elsewhere, while Sims and Rainey carry the load in TB.
Speilman should attempt to trade Matt Kalil for Doug Martin. Not that the Vikings have anything to replace Kalil with but since he not protecting Bridgewater anyway it worth the risk.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
Overvaluation of draft picks.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
Overvaluation of draft picks.
I wonder if its simply because teams that win super bowls aren't noted for making key in-season trades. Copycat league, so no team thinks they need to do it. If some team made a huge trade in the middle of the season and went on to steamroll everyone and win the super bowl, maybe things would change.

 
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How about if the Broncos slump and wind up out of the playoff picture somehow with 2 weeks to go. Meanwhile the Packers are 12-2 and running away with the top seed. Then Aaron Rodgers suffers a season ending injury. Should the Packers trade some picks for Peyton Manning? It would never happen.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
Overvaluation of draft picks.
I wonder if its simply because teams that win super bowls aren't noted for making key in-season trades. Copycat league, so no team thinks they need to do it. If some team made a huge trade in the middle of the season and went on to steamroll everyone and win the super bowl, maybe things would change.
The plays, packages, adjustments, systems are too complicated to just switch midyear. There are guys that take 1-2 years in one system just to catch on. In baseball, hockey, and basketball the style of play and actual plays used are really similar across all teams.
 
With the depth the Raiders have at wide receiver, they should attempt to trade Denarius Moore for a draft pick. The new GM should be building through the draft.

 
With the depth the Raiders have at wide receiver, they should attempt to trade Denarius Moore for a draft pick. The new GM should be building through the draft.
They would be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. Like the previous post, teams value draft picks way more than established players. All GMs think they are draft gurus.

 
On twitter last week, it was said that several teams inquired about Nate Washington. During the game, the announcers said same.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
They tried, believe me. But word got out that they were gonna cut him if they couldn't trade him, so no one bit.

Ever since the Herschel Walker trade, teams have been extremely reluctant to give up picks for players.

 
lod01 said:
Donnybrook said:
With the depth the Raiders have at wide receiver, they should attempt to trade Denarius Moore for a draft pick. The new GM should be building through the draft.
They would be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. Like the previous post, teams value draft picks way more than established players. All GMs think they are draft gurus.
I don't think it's that GMs think they are so superior at talent evaluation - they know the odds of late round picks becoming significant contributors better than we do - as it is trading off a draft pick for another team's trash and paying vet salary for him rather than keeping the pick and paying rookie minimum while rolling the dice with a player who has not crapped out on at least one NFL opportunity. Unlike the vast majority of FF owners, GMs have cap constraints, business considerations, and career longevity to keep in mind when they make moves. They also understand, unlike many FFers, the value of special team aces who would normally never be considered to take on a significant role unless there were a rash of injuries at that position - and are players who coincidentally usually don't have large cap impact also. You trade for a Moore for example and maybe you have to cut 2 or 3 of those guys to carve out roster/cap space. That could damage the team more than the potential improvement.

Something that makes perfect sense to armchair football geniuses makes zero business sense in the real world.

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lod01 said:
Donnybrook said:
With the depth the Raiders have at wide receiver, they should attempt to trade Denarius Moore for a draft pick. The new GM should be building through the draft.
They would be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. Like the previous post, teams value draft picks way more than established players. All GMs think they are draft gurus.
I don't think it's that GMs think they are so superior at talent evaluation - they know the odds of late round picks becoming significant contributors better than we do - as it is trading off a draft pick for another team's trash and paying vet salary for him rather than keeping the pick and paying rookie minimum while rolling the dice with a player who has not crapped out on at least one NFL opportunity.Unlike the vast majority of FF owners, GMs have cap constraints, business considerations, and career longevity to keep in mind when they make moves. They also understand, unlike many FFers, the value of special team aces who would normally never be considered to take on a significant role unless there were a rash of injuries at that position - and are players who coincidentally usually don't have large cap impact also. You trade for a Moore for example and maybe you have to cut 2 or 3 of those guys to carve out roster/cap space. That could damage the team more than the potential improvement.

Something that makes perfect sense to armchair football geniuses makes zero business sense in the real world.

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:yes: plus those late picks make for trade fodder when a player you like falls in the draft and you need to make a move.

 
The Steelers have a need for a cornerback with Allen sucking majorly. A lot of fans are saying trade Wheaton since Bryant has had 2 good games, but just 8 games into Wheaton's career (His rookie year was marred with injury) it's kind of hard to already write him off. He also looked good at times during the Colts game. He could develop, but I'm sure they'd bite for the right price.

Don't see any major trades happening before the deadline though. Maybe V-Jax, but no one else.

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
Overvaluation of draft picks.
I wonder if its simply because teams that win super bowls aren't noted for making key in-season trades. Copycat league, so no team thinks they need to do it. If some team made a huge trade in the middle of the season and went on to steamroll everyone and win the super bowl, maybe things would change.
In season trades are tough because football, unlike any other sport, is so game plan/playbook dependent. It's tough for a player to come in mid-season and just step into an offense/defense that the team has been implementing since May OTAs.

 
With the depth the Raiders have at wide receiver, they should attempt to trade Denarius Moore for a draft pick. The new GM should be building through the draft.
They would be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. Like the previous post, teams value draft picks way more than established players. All GMs think they are draft gurus.
I think 6th and 7th have been losing their luster for GMs the last couple years.

Took long enough, since most 7th roudners don't make the team

 
Rappaport: Welcome to trade deadline day, where #Bucs are the 1 to watch: Getting calls on VJackson, Mark Barron and Doug Martin. Will anything happen?

8:01am - 28 Oct 14

 
Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Like Why didn't the Eagles trade DeSean Jackson? Surely they could have gotten something. Instead they just cut him. I don't get that. Not one team was interested in trading for Jackson.
They tried, believe me. But word got out that they were gonna cut him if they couldn't trade him, so no one bit.Ever since the Herschel Walker trade, teams have been extremely reluctant to give up picks for players.
This! No one wants to look like a fool in a trade so most won't take a chance.
 
Billy Bats said:
Rappaport: Welcome to trade deadline day, where #Bucs are the 1 to watch: Getting calls on VJackson, Mark Barron and Doug Martin. Will anything happen?

8:01am - 28 Oct 14
With Rainey and Simms, there is no reason to keep Martin. Take a 4th and move on

 
Would love to see the Cowboys go after a pass rusher.....but nothing "Jerry Jones like."

Tuck to the Cowboys I would love.....

Cowboys also need a stinking LB.

 
steelers1080 said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Anything on the wind today?
Haven't heard anything yet.

The trade I like the most is Roddy White to the Chiefs/Patriots. They could get a mid/late round pick in a season that's pretty much lost. Or they could trade for some defensive help.
As a Roddy owner, him going to the Pats would be awesome

 

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